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Thread started 11/17/14 3:01pm

Purplestar88

Aaliyah Movie Fallout

http://www.ibtimes.com/aaliyah-movie-wendy-williams-responds-princess-rb-criticism-says-lifetime-biopic-1724823

The movies was so bad. I quess high ratings is more important than a decent movie that happen to have high ratings.

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Reply #1 posted 11/18/14 2:42pm

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It was so embarrassingly bad!
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Reply #2 posted 11/18/14 2:48pm

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Were all the dark skinned actors out of town? Timbaland is not light skinned. Missy is not light skinned... and she wasn't skinny in the 90's lol

And why does the actor who plays Kells. Look like a gay go-go dancer?

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Reply #3 posted 11/18/14 5:42pm

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I really tried to like this movie but it was so BAD! I loved Aaliyah and was looking forward to this movie- I thought Wendy Williams would make sure it was RIGHT but it was just all wrong- smh- awful------
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Reply #4 posted 11/18/14 6:51pm

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The actress playing Missy wasn't lightskinned. Yeah, she was way too skinny but she wasn't too light. And while Tim may not be "light," I wouldn't call him dark either. The actor playing him looked believeable enough.

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Reply #5 posted 11/19/14 7:48am

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I had no desire to watch it, but according to Nielsen Fast Cable Ratings, it ranks as this year’s #2 movie telecast on cable. wink

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Reply #6 posted 11/19/14 7:54am

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I wrote this on another site and will write it again: I really don't get what the big deal about the fallout is. It's a LIFETIME movie, you aren't going to get the top notch actors and casting. It is what it is. It was surely cheesy as all get out, but I don't think it was the most terrible movie I've seen. My only complaint was how they portrayed R. Kelly to be this thugs-r-us type character. It was hilarious. lol

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Reply #7 posted 11/19/14 8:59pm

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missfee said:

I wrote this on another site and will write it again: I really don't get what the big deal about the fallout is. It's a LIFETIME movie, you aren't going to get the top notch actors and casting. It is what it is. It was surely cheesy as all get out, but I don't think it was the most terrible movie I've seen. My only complaint was how they portrayed R. Kelly to be this thugs-r-us type character. It was hilarious. lol

Yeah it def had "Lifetime" written all over it but I think the movie was subpar and it really ended abruptly. I mean, they didn't even bother to show anything about grieving fans, etc. I wonder which R&B legend will be the next to have their story given the Wendy Williams treatment.

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Reply #8 posted 11/19/14 10:20pm

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SeventeenDayze said:

missfee said:

I wrote this on another site and will write it again: I really don't get what the big deal about the fallout is. It's a LIFETIME movie, you aren't going to get the top notch actors and casting. It is what it is. It was surely cheesy as all get out, but I don't think it was the most terrible movie I've seen. My only complaint was how they portrayed R. Kelly to be this thugs-r-us type character. It was hilarious. lol

Yeah it def had "Lifetime" written all over it but I think the movie was subpar and it really ended abruptly. I mean, they didn't even bother to show anything about grieving fans, etc. I wonder which R&B legend will be the next to have their story given the Wendy Williams treatment.

The rise and fall of Ashanti by Wendy Williams

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Reply #9 posted 11/20/14 2:32am

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I DVR'd the Movie and the "After special"...Normally I NEVER let public opinion keep me from watching or listening to anything but The Black folks on Twitter gave the movie the poorest reviews...1 person out of 50 liked it....Now I could have watched it anyways but I deleted the Movie and the After-special....On Monday Wendy Williams said "Er'body got opinions but The Aaliyah movie is the 2nd highest rated Cable Movie of 2014", then she quickly moved on to bashing other Celebs...She should have thanked her viewers for supporting her regardless, what if no one watched?

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Reply #10 posted 11/20/14 2:46am

Purplestar88

The move was bad. It wasn't decent and it had have no real story. Everything was half assed and rushed, just so they could show R. Kelly and D.Dash. Maybe another movie would be better. If anything the movie high ratings showed people are interested in Aaliyah.

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Reply #11 posted 11/20/14 7:37am

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Reply #12 posted 11/20/14 3:33pm

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LittleBLUECorvette said:

SeventeenDayze said:

Yeah it def had "Lifetime" written all over it but I think the movie was subpar and it really ended abruptly. I mean, they didn't even bother to show anything about grieving fans, etc. I wonder which R&B legend will be the next to have their story given the Wendy Williams treatment.

The rise and fall of Ashanti by Wendy Williams

I actually had the same thought the other day. How many people would watch that? biggrin

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Reply #13 posted 11/20/14 5:58pm

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Reply #14 posted 11/20/14 8:18pm

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dancerella said:

LittleBLUECorvette said:

The rise and fall of Ashanti by Wendy Williams

I actually had the same thought the other day. How many people would watch that? biggrin

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Reply #15 posted 11/20/14 10:38pm

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LittleBLUECorvette said:

dancerella said:

I actually had the same thought the other day. How many people would watch that? biggrin

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Ja Rule, Irv Gotti, and their whole crew.

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Also, this movie just wasn't very good. It ticked a lot of cliché boxes and doesn't appear to touch upon more interesting aspects of Aaliyah's life/personality; I'd of liked to see more of her in the studio recording and going over the songs w/ her producers; rehearsing for live performances, shooting videos, etc. etc.; how she approached the music and a bit DEEPER on how she dealt with the fame emotionally at such a relatively young age. I've always liked how she carries herself in interviews. You see this contrast between how she presents herself (or how her management presents her) in the Age Ain't Nothing But A Number days (the 'street tomboy' style), and then when she hooks up with Da Bassment/Swing Mob and she grows more into her own.

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I think ninety minutes would have been plenty of time to explore all that and more.

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Reply #16 posted 11/20/14 10:52pm

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Not only did she have a short career, it wasn't very interesting.

Whereas a movie on the short careers of Sam Cooke, Kurt Cobain and 2Pac would be very interesting.
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Reply #17 posted 11/21/14 12:30am

SoulAlive

LittleBLUECorvette said:

Not only did she have a short career, it wasn't very interesting. Whereas a movie on the short careers of Sam Cooke, Kurt Cobain and 2Pac would be very interesting.

I agree.I know she has alot of fans,but I never understood why she needed a biopic.Her story isn't all that compelling,imo.

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SoulAlive said:

I agree.I know she has alot of fans,but I never understood why she needed a biopic.Her story isn't all that compelling,imo.

Do you agree that her Career was moving full steam ahead and she deserved the title "Princess of R&B"? Who crowned her that anyways? I would have given that title to Brandy Or Monica 14yrs ago..

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Chancellor said:



SoulAlive said:




I agree.I know she has alot of fans,but I never understood why she needed a biopic.Her story isn't all that compelling,imo.



Do you agree that her Career was moving full steam ahead and she deserved the title "Princess of R&B"? Who crowned her that anyways? I would have given that title to Brandy Or Monica 14yrs ago..


Brandy was more well known and had more hits. I'd say Brandy. Aaliyah and Monica were about the same.
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Reply #20 posted 11/21/14 2:36pm

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Tried to watch this the other night lol. Missed the first half hour or so. Had to go to work in the morning, so I bailed early too. Looked whack. Nobody looked like nobody, especially Aaliyah lol. What do you want from Lifetime and Wendy? doh! They just wanted to exploit the whole Kells situation, I think. Which was handled rather poorly anyway, imho confused I wonder how he feels about it popcorn.

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Reply #21 posted 11/21/14 3:43pm

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Despite how haphazardly produced that biopic was, Aaliyah more than deserved one...and that it was a ratings winner just goes to show that the public interest in her is high, so save that tacky "Brandy was bigger" nonsense for the sake of being cynical. Producers, journalists, executives, her peers, her predecessors and artists who came after have acknowledged her significance to the world of music -- no matter how short her career ultimately was or small her complete body of work was. In the almost 15 years since her death, neither her name or music has faded from pop culture and people haven't stopped talking about her on a regular basis. People have had time to get over her, but they haven't.

That she became even bigger in death than she was in life means that her impact while she was here was real enough, even if it seemed subtle at the time. Not many celebrities enjoy ongoing infamy in the afterlife. I can think of a bunch of singers/celebrities who have passed away and their music has either faded into oblivion or their names don't inspire a whole lot of continued conversation, despite how successful they were in life. That hasn't happened to her. That you can go to any urban area in America and see her image memorialized in graffiti alongside Biggie's, 2Pac's, MJ's, Whitney's and other deceased icons of urban music more than validates her deserving a made-for-TV biopic.

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Qazz said:

Despite how haphazardly produced that biopic was, Aaliyah more than deserved one...and that it was a ratings winner just goes to show that the public interest in her is high, so save that tacky "Brandy was bigger" nonsense for the sake of being cynical. Producers, journalists, executives, her peers, her predecessors and artists who came after have acknowledged her significance to the world of music -- no matter how short her career ultimately was or small her complete body of work was. In the almost 15 years since her death, neither her name or music has faded from pop culture and people haven't stopped talking about her on a regular basis. People have had time to get over her, but they haven't.

That she became even bigger in death than she was in life means that her impact while she was here was real enough, even if it seemed subtle at the time. Not many celebrities enjoy ongoing infamy in the afterlife. I can think of a bunch of singers/celebrities who have passed away and their music has either faded into oblivion or their names don't inspire a whole lot of continued conversation, despite how successful they were in life. That hasn't happened to her. That you can go to any urban area in America and see her image memorialized in graffiti alongside Biggie's, 2Pac's, MJ's, Whitney's and other deceased icons of urban music more than validates her deserving a made-for-TV biopic.


There's a Big Pun and Soulja Slim images, I don't think they deserve movies.
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I thought Alexandra Shipp did very well, working with the material she was given and making the most of it. The resemblance in-movie was acceptable to me, as far as biopic castings go. Resemblance to the person an actor is going to portray is only about fifty percent of the deal; heck, I even think the actor that played Timbaland could have been convincing if he had been given more credible lines and a better direction (and maybe a slightly bigger part).

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Qazz said:

Despite how haphazardly produced that biopic was, Aaliyah more than deserved one...and that it was a ratings winner just goes to show that the public interest in her is high, so save that tacky "Brandy was bigger" nonsense for the sake of being cynical. Producers, journalists, executives, her peers, her predecessors and artists who came after have acknowledged her significance to the world of music -- no matter how short her career ultimately was or small her complete body of work was. In the almost 15 years since her death, neither her name or music has faded from pop culture and people haven't stopped talking about her on a regular basis. People have had time to get over her, but they haven't.

That she became even bigger in death than she was in life means that her impact while she was here was real enough, even if it seemed subtle at the time. Not many celebrities enjoy ongoing infamy in the afterlife. I can think of a bunch of singers/celebrities who have passed away and their music has either faded into oblivion or their names don't inspire a whole lot of continued conversation, despite how successful they were in life. That hasn't happened to her. That you can go to any urban area in America and see her image memorialized in graffiti alongside Biggie's, 2Pac's, MJ's, Whitney's and other deceased icons of urban music more than validates her deserving a made-for-TV biopic.

I disagree. Death is the best PR an artist could ever hope for and most artists who die young get memorialized even if they weren't all that good. IMO, Aliyah was a slightly above average singer who was lucky enough to die before she'd really done anything truly noteworthy, and because we'll always wonder what she could have accomplished, she'll be made out to be better than she actually was.

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Reply #25 posted 11/22/14 11:19am

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Qazz said:


Despite how haphazardly produced that biopic was, Aaliyah more than deserved one...and that it was a ratings winner just goes to show that the public interest in her is high, so save that tacky "Brandy was bigger" nonsense for the sake of being cynical. Producers, journalists, executives, her peers, her predecessors and artists who came after have acknowledged her significance to the world of music -- no matter how short her career ultimately was or small her complete body of work was. In the almost 15 years since her death, neither her name or music has faded from pop culture and people haven't stopped talking about her on a regular basis. People have had time to get over her, but they haven't.

That she became even bigger in death than she was in life means that her impact while she was here was real enough, even if it seemed subtle at the time. Not many celebrities enjoy ongoing infamy in the afterlife. I can think of a bunch of singers/celebrities who have passed away and their music has either faded into oblivion or their names don't inspire a whole lot of continued conversation, despite how successful they were in life. That hasn't happened to her. That you can go to any urban area in America and see her image memorialized in graffiti alongside Biggie's, 2Pac's, MJ's, Whitney's and other deceased icons of urban music more than validates her deserving a made-for-TV biopic.





I disagree. Death is the best PR an artist could ever hope for and most artists who die young get memorialized even if they weren't all that good. IMO, Aliyah was a slightly above average singer who was lucky enough to die before she'd really done anything truly noteworthy, and because we'll always wonder what she could have accomplished, she'll be made out to be better than she actually was.



I concur. As much as I liked her music and style prior to her passing, people do tend to lift some artists up to a stature they likely wouldn't have attained had they lived on. As far as her being compelling enough to warrant a biopic: yes. Her reputation, like the Brandys and Monicas of that time period was great, but what set her apart from the others was a certain "mystique" and edge that the others just didn't have. The well-known scandal that followed her career from beginning to end created and sustained that mystique, mainly because she never spoke about it.
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Reply #26 posted 11/22/14 9:35pm

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scorp84 said:

guitarslinger44 said:

I disagree. Death is the best PR an artist could ever hope for and most artists who die young get memorialized even if they weren't all that good. IMO, Aliyah was a slightly above average singer who was lucky enough to die before she'd really done anything truly noteworthy, and because we'll always wonder what she could have accomplished, she'll be made out to be better than she actually was.

I concur. As much as I liked her music and style prior to her passing, people do tend to lift some artists up to a stature they likely wouldn't have attained had they lived on. As far as her being compelling enough to warrant a biopic: yes. Her reputation, like the Brandys and Monicas of that time period was great, but what set her apart from the others was a certain "mystique" and edge that the others just didn't have. The well-known scandal that followed her career from beginning to end created and sustained that mystique, mainly because she never spoke about it.

Yup, 3 time.

She was a pretty good 90's R&B artist, had a slightly mysterious vibe, a decent soft voice, great looker. She had a few really good songs, but just looking at the credits now, she didn't contribute as a songwriter to a single song on any of her albums. I'm actually kinda surprised! I thought she would have at least dabbled...those producers and songwriters certainly should be given alot of credit for creating her style.

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So I liked her, but I'm not gonna exaggerate her skills and career lol

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3 albums, but she def ain't no muso genius like D'Angelo. Imagine if HE had met an early demise? People (not just his good number of loyal fans) would be absolutely bonkers over him!

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