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Thread started 11/11/14 2:57pm

Gunsnhalen

If An Artist Goes Against What They Preach.

Do you still listen to a certain artist. Even after the subject matter they preach about. They themselves don't keep to it?

A good example of this is Lauryn Hill. She preached about not being a home wrecker. Not letting men control you and having multiple kids by a man that didn't love you. Yet she was cheating with Wyclef when she was married. AKA a home wrecker lol she had multiple kids with Rohan Marley. Who left her after years and years of being together. Only to marry some other chick he dated for like half a year. And she was basically controlled by him in the long run. She went against a lot of things she stated in her music. So it becomes less genuine to me in that fact.

There's also a lot of metal and hip-hop groups. Who had some great songs about politics and social issues. But then it turns out some of them were just doing it for money. One of them was anti-Semitic asshole. And another spoke about not letting materialism control you. Yet he spent million on cars, strippers, and more strippers.

Do you still support an artist after that? do you still listen to the message? even if the artist goes against it.

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Reply #1 posted 11/11/14 4:05pm

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Gunsnhalen said:

Do you still listen to a certain artist. Even after the subject matter they preach about. They themselves don't keep to it?

A good example of this is Lauryn Hill. She preached about not being a home wrecker. Not letting men control you and having multiple kids by a man that didn't love you. Yet she was cheating with Wyclef when she was married. AKA a home wrecker lol she had multiple kids with Rohan Marley. Who left her after years and years of being together. Only to marry some other chick he dated for like half a year. And she was basically controlled by him in the long run. She went against a lot of things she stated in her music. So it becomes less genuine to me in that fact.

There's also a lot of metal and hip-hop groups. Who had some great songs about politics and social issues. But then it turns out some of them were just doing it for money. One of them was anti-Semitic asshole. And another spoke about not letting materialism control you. Yet he spent million on cars, strippers, and more strippers.

Do you still support an artist after that? do you still listen to the message? even if the artist goes against it.

well i dont put much stock into these artists opinions so if i like the music i will still buy it.inever cared for 'preachy' entertainers, they always come off as having a superior complex, my thing is what makes you know more than me.i dont mind when they touch on subjects just dont try to preach to me like your shit dont stink. lauryn did come off as preachy at times.

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Reply #2 posted 11/11/14 4:15pm

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I know an Amazingly gifted artist that changes his mind/plans so much that its difficult to count on anything he says.. wink

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Reply #3 posted 11/11/14 6:46pm

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I don't appreciate artists as one and the same with their art. That said, if a really good artist does something I can't get behind, I may simply find ways (preferably legal smile ) to access their work for free so as not to financially support them.

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πρὸς ὀλίγον ἐστὶ τὸ ζῆν
τὸ τέλος ὁ χρόνος ἀπαιτεῖ.”
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Reply #4 posted 11/11/14 9:16pm

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I seperate the music from the things in the media you hear about an artist.

You can have a real asshole for an artist, but if they make great music, i listen.

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Reply #5 posted 11/11/14 10:02pm

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An artist would have to do something really dire for me not to listen to their music anymore--like kill somebody.

"Music gives a soul to the universe, wings to the mind, flight to the imagination and life to everything." --Plato

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Reply #6 posted 11/12/14 10:04am

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I listen to some country music, I imagine I would get into an argument with some of them good old boys if we got to talking about politics and personal beliefs. Same with those Norwegian black metal guys.

But as long as the music isn't about that, I can get into it. I'll even jam out to Ted Nugent if Stranglehold comes on the radio.

The only time I would stop listening to an artist I liked, would be if they did something so morally repugnant to me that I couldn't listen to their stuff without being reminded of the foul shit they did. R Kelly comes to mind, so does Gary Glitter. I never listened to Lostprophets and ain't about to start.

If it was someone whose music I liked BECAUSE of the righteous message, and they betrayed the cause... well.... it's hard to say what I would do because I don't like any bands for their righteous message.

Some great bands have a very un-righteous message, but turn out to be nice guys in real life. That's OK too. It's just art. You can be in a room full of punkers and all scream "Kill the hippies!" in unison when the band starts playing a song called "Kill The Hippies". Nobody's going to actually do that. Nobody really has anything against hippies. It's just... I dunno.... fun to be a little extreme in a safe entertainment envoronment sometimes.

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Reply #7 posted 11/12/14 10:13am

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I'm not sure if this is the same thing but I used 2 dig Ceelo Green but after this rape nonsense, I refuse 2 listen or support him at this point.

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Reply #8 posted 11/12/14 11:56am

Gunsnhalen

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I listen to some country music, I imagine I would get into an argument with some of them good old boys if we got to talking about politics and personal beliefs. Same with those Norwegian black metal guys.

But as long as the music isn't about that, I can get into it. I'll even jam out to Ted Nugent if Stranglehold comes on the radio.

The only time I would stop listening to an artist I liked, would be if they did something so morally repugnant to me that I couldn't listen to their stuff without being reminded of the foul shit they did. R Kelly comes to mind, so does Gary Glitter. I never listened to Lostprophets and ain't about to start.

If it was someone whose music I liked BECAUSE of the righteous message, and they betrayed the cause... well.... it's hard to say what I would do because I don't like any bands for their righteous message.

Some great bands have a very un-righteous message, but turn out to be nice guys in real life. That's OK too. It's just art. You can be in a room full of punkers and all scream "Kill the hippies!" in unison when the band starts playing a song called "Kill The Hippies". Nobody's going to actually do that. Nobody really has anything against hippies. It's just... I dunno.... fun to be a little extreme in a safe entertainment envoronment sometimes.

The country thing reminded me of something. I sometimes can ignore an artists personal life. if the music is not a reflection. For example if a country artist is saying love who you wanna love. Then he goes around bashing gay people & interracial marriage. I'll be like wtf lol but if he his subjects are thing's he doesn't contradict himself on. I usually just let their other bullshit go on ignore lol

Pistols sounded like "Fuck off," wheras The Clash sounded like "Fuck Off, but here's why.."- Thedigitialgardener

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Reply #9 posted 11/12/14 12:28pm

Gunsnhalen

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I'm not sure if this is the same thing but I used 2 dig Ceelo Green but after this rape nonsense, I refuse 2 listen or support him at this point.

That is absloutely true confused there seems to have been conflicting stories. And i wanted to believe Cee-Lo wasn't capable of that. But then he went on that twitter tyrade -.- wher ehe said some disgusting and questonable shit. I've been very on the fence with him since then. And i haven't heard anything from him since then. He was once a media darling too. Now... not so much.

Pistols sounded like "Fuck off," wheras The Clash sounded like "Fuck Off, but here's why.."- Thedigitialgardener

All music is shit music and no music is real- gunsnhalen

Datdonkeydick- Asherfierce

Gary Hunts Album Isn't That Good- Soulalive
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Reply #10 posted 11/12/14 12:40pm

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Gunsnhalen said:

Graycap23 said:

I'm not sure if this is the same thing but I used 2 dig Ceelo Green but after this rape nonsense, I refuse 2 listen or support him at this point.

That is absloutely true confused there seems to have been conflicting stories. And i wanted to believe Cee-Lo wasn't capable of that. But then he went on that twitter tyrade -.- wher ehe said some disgusting and questonable shit. I've been very on the fence with him since then. And i haven't heard anything from him since then. He was once a media darling too. Now... not so much.

Once he made the following comment, i was done: "It isn't rape if she was asleep".

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Reply #11 posted 11/12/14 1:43pm

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I don't like it when some artists criticise other artists for selling out, usually concerning an over-sexed image but then go and do it themselves 1 or 2 albums down the line when their own sales start to dry up.

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Reply #12 posted 11/12/14 3:35pm

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I still listen to them. I realize that if an artist is being really honest with their lyrics, it might be something they struggle with themselves and project it onto their audience! In some cases, the artist is almost the opposite of their persona because they are TRYING to get there on a personal level. Make sense?

That's why you see studio gangstas come out with graduation caps and priveleged upbringings, and vice versa.

If you want to talk about PREACH, I am sure there are some gospel performers with scandalous lives evillol

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Reply #13 posted 11/12/14 5:02pm

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Simple, that makes you a hypocrite and you don't have to be an artist to be one.
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Reply #14 posted 11/12/14 5:04pm

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...but on the other hand, being a hypocrite sells records.
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Reply #15 posted 11/14/14 3:15pm

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I only care about the music.
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