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Watch: Mariah Carey Has Vocal Malfunction On Opening Night Of ‘The Elusive Chanteuse Show’

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When the dust has settled, Mariah Carey will inevitably go down as one of the greatest vocalists of all time. However, in the here and now, the singer’s instrument appears to need some fine-tuning.For, after wrapping the first night on the Asian leg of her new tour ‘The Elusive Chanteuse Show’, disturbing footage has emerged of the diva struggling with a number of songs…only to sound MP3 magnifique on others.See what we mean below…

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Factually speaking, voices change. And while there exists ample debate as to what’s happened/happening to Mariah’s, we just wish she’d employ less obvious means of covering up the clear problem. A problem which has been increasingly apparent over the last 10 years of her career.Like, for goodness sake; play around with the arrangement and tweak the band’s key to suit the “new” vocals. And if lip-synching, don’t do so to the CD versions of tracks from 1998. It’s embarrassing.What’s more, we’ve also noted how – in recent years – Mimi has become accustomed to creating songs in the studio with vocals and arrangements that are near-impossible to recreate live. It’s a practice traceable to the flawless ‘Emancipation’ right up to this year’s ‘Elusive Chanteuse’ especially on tracks such as ‘Heavenly’. Sure, it makes for great listening, yet – if she insists on touring like she is now – it only leaves her with scrambled eggs on her face when videos such as this emerge.There remains room for Mariah in today’s modern musical climate. She’s an icon and possess a skill-set and pen-game that many of her touted replacements over the years could only wish for. Yet, if she’s ever to become commercially relevant again to today’s music buyers, she needs to sort out her “product” and problems pronto.

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Reply #1 posted 10/04/14 10:48am

jon1967

did she pull a milli vanilli n lip sync ? pfff not cool not cool.

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Reply #2 posted 10/04/14 11:54am

SoulAlive

How sad confused her voice has lost its power.

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Reply #3 posted 10/04/14 4:54pm

SoulAlive

jon1967 said:

did she pull a milli vanilli n lip sync ? pfff not cool not cool.

No,she wasn't lip-syncing.She wasn't hitting the right notes.

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Reply #4 posted 10/04/14 5:11pm

SoulAlive

I wanted to see if her fans were having a meltdown over this lol here's a few comments....

The tour (47,113) by Randy from USA

I'm just tired of making excuses. The setlist was too long, she is going through a divorce, she traveled across the world. We are getting too many bad performances from someone who is supposed to be one of the all time greatest vocalists. Since that Oprah performance of Hero in 1997, it has been way too many inconsistencies and no I don't expect her to be perfect but to have a noticeable difference in your voice and never address it directly and keep on with the smoke and mirrors. I remember watching her at that BET performance thinking to myself, why is Mariah Carey lip syncing? Isn't that reserved for JLo, Britney Spears, Janet Jackson? This is Mariah Carey. I think some people love her so much they just hang on to the fact that she's almost on pitch. And call that a great emotional performance. Aretha, Patti, Chaka, Gladys and Tina held on to their voices for decades and even though they have all declined somewhat, there is still some resemblance of their former greatness. So basically, I will be spending the next 6 months defending her on Facebook. I am mortified, yet again.


Re ZachMc (47,106) by G.G. from USA

Lol at "selfless effort". Mariah is being paid, all caps. She's not doing these concerts for free. If she doesn't step it up with the vocals and stage production I think this might be her last big tour. Her voice is gone, she needs something big going on on the stage around her to distract from her lip synching and bad live vocals. Some lambs don't want to see what's right in front of their faces. The Mariah vocals of the 90's are gone forever. Sad to admit, but true.
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Reply #5 posted 10/04/14 6:44pm

lowkey

studio singer

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Reply #6 posted 10/04/14 6:52pm

jon1967

Aww .. isnt she set for life financially, does she need to keep bangin it out if the voice isnt all there? Hate to see her get bad mouthed n unappreciated shes so sexy n that voice qas awesome.
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Reply #7 posted 10/04/14 7:12pm

SoulAlive

Some of her fans seem to think that she's lip-syncing,but I don't think she is.If she were lip-syncing,she would be sounding GREAT onstage lol What I hear in those clips above is a singer who can't hit those mighty notes anymore.

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Reply #8 posted 10/04/14 11:51pm

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Sounds normal to me. That last clip where she lies down is epic. I hope she don't owe Clive Davis money.

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Reply #9 posted 10/05/14 4:07am

ginusher

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Somewhere in the world, Ariana Grande is rubbing her hands going 'Excellent!'

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I don't want your rhythm without your rhyme
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Reply #10 posted 10/05/14 6:20am

lezama

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Change it one more time..
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Reply #11 posted 10/05/14 7:06am

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The Heartbreaker clip is an obvious lipsynch, especially when you compare it to the clips where she actually is singing but can't hit the notes.


Mariah's had bits of lipsynching thrown into her live shows since at least the Butterfly tour. Look up clips from the performance of "Honey" from that tour and skip to the, "Baby, I can't hardly wait," part. Or "Subtle Invitation" from the Charmbracelet tour, an skip to the end, "If you really need me, baby." She'll sing the less strenuous parts of a song and lipsynch tougher parts. She's been doing it for years. It's just that now, the lipsynching is starting to outweigh the live singing, and the quality of the live singing is at an all time low.


The writer made a great point about her creating parts that are impossible to recreate live in the studio, and cited a perfect example with "Heavenly." The adlibs toward the end literally sound like someone is triggering samples of her, which is probably what is happening.


It's sad when you see someone refusing to age gracefully. If you only have 2 or 3 octaves left of your 12 octave range, then make the most of those octaves and make songs in the keys where you can still sing comfortably. The blatent studio trickery is pathetic, and an insult to the listener.

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Reply #12 posted 10/05/14 2:23pm

mjscarousal

Mariah has mimed in the past but she is singing live on the above clips. She does not sound terrible, she just can't hit those signature notes that she is known to hit anymore. She should just stick to songs that she is more comfortable with singing live.

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Reply #13 posted 10/05/14 2:34pm

scorp84

Sure, blog about the accomplished singers that can't hit the notes anymore and give praise and accolades to the ones who never could lol.
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Reply #14 posted 10/05/14 6:08pm

HAPPYPERSON

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Reply #15 posted 10/06/14 5:51am

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scorp84 said:

Sure, blog about the accomplished singers that can't hit the notes anymore and give praise and accolades to the ones who never could lol.

lol

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Reply #16 posted 10/06/14 6:22am

Musicslave

She sounds like she's crossing over into that, "Whitney In Decline" years with most of her live vocals unfortunately. I hope she copes with the rejection and criticism better than Whitney did. It's a hard, fall from being one of the most respected vocalist of your time to laughing stock of the world. Too bad she ran away her biggest fan (Nick Cannon) from being there for her in times like these.

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What do you guys think happened to her voice? Does she smoke, drink, or simply doesn't sing regularly. I've read that all three are killers on the vocal chords.

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Reply #17 posted 10/06/14 6:48am

novabrkr

Maybe she's lost her vocal abilities, but people really shouldn't judge anyone's singing capabilities from just some shitty audience recordings done with a cellphone in a big hall with poor acoustics.

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Reply #18 posted 10/06/14 8:23pm

SoulAlive

Musicslave said:

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What do you guys think happened to her voice? Does she smoke, drink, or simply doesn't sing regularly. I've read that all three are killers on the vocal chords.

I don't think she smokes or drinks,but I could be wrong.

It could just be a case of her not maintaining/fine-tuning her voice properly throughout all these years.In any case,she might need to 'fix' a few things before this tour comes to America...change the song arrangements,perhaps.Or leave some of the 'hard-to-sing' songs off the setlist.

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Reply #19 posted 10/07/14 9:13am

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I suspect she hasn't had the vocal ability she once had since Charmbracelet. Even though it didn't sell well, Glitter had some damn fine runs and vocal performances on it ("Lead the Way" is AMAZING)! After that album, however, she began that whisper singing thing she does, and hasn't stopped doing since. You can hear the studio trickery during some of her runs on Emancipation, EMC, Memoirs, Me. I. Am., etc. The woman can still sing, don't get me wrong, but I think the things she's done on recent albums are part talent, part smoke and mirrors, which cannot be duplicated live without lipsyncing.

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Reply #20 posted 10/07/14 10:58am

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jillybean said:

I suspect she hasn't had the vocal ability she once had since Charmbracelet. Even though it didn't sell well, Glitter had some damn fine runs and vocal performances on it ("Lead the Way" is AMAZING)! After that album, however, she began that whisper singing thing she does, and hasn't stopped doing since. You can hear the studio trickery during some of her runs on Emancipation, EMC, Memoirs, Me. I. Am., etc. The woman can still sing, don't get me wrong, but I think the things she's done on recent albums are part talent, part smoke and mirrors, which cannot be duplicated live without lipsyncing.

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Her vocals were still fire on that "Glitter" soundtrack! nod

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Reply #21 posted 10/07/14 11:00am

Musicslave

SoulAlive said:

Musicslave said:

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What do you guys think happened to her voice? Does she smoke, drink, or simply doesn't sing regularly. I've read that all three are killers on the vocal chords.

I don't think she smokes or drinks,but I could be wrong.

It could just be a case of her not maintaining/fine-tuning her voice properly throughout all these years.In any case,she might need to 'fix' a few things before this tour comes to America...change the song arrangements,perhaps.Or leave some of the 'hard-to-sing' songs off the setlist.

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Yeah, seems like she's going to have to pull out some bells and whistles for the buzz surrounding this tour to improve.

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Reply #22 posted 10/07/14 12:10pm

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Mariah doesn't smoke but she does drink. I think her vocal damage is from overuse. She's been singing professionally since she was 14. And it's not like it's easy to do what she does. Try it!

She also used to record several versions of her singles(Honey album version, Honey Club Mix, Honey SoSo Def Mix as an example). They all have different vocals! That's triple the work. Same thing with tons of her singles. I Still Believe actually has 4 or 5 different vocal versions.

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Reply #23 posted 10/07/14 12:29pm

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I must admit that the last 6-7 years the antics on stage have worked my last nerve. I like most of her music but was getting VERY tired of the collabos with rappers. The boobs and legs out all the damn time when her weight was out of controll didn't help matters with me, along with the whisper singing. All of the sudden she would just pose, hand flying everywhere and straight up lipping the music and bad lipping at that! I was like what happened to her voice???? Lawd knows I wanted Whitney to come back with a vengeance and just blow us away...but when it wasn't there I felt so sorry for her....watched one of the clips and couldn't click on another.....I was like OH NOOOOOOO!!!!

Why is she on tour anyway? Why can't these people go have a seat somewhere and let us miss them for a bit. Even thought I fell off of the Mariah train a while back I don't wish this on her AT ALL. That was a painful thing to watch just like with Whitney. When Diana Ross lost her voice I was like there is nothing else to prove so why do you try to continue to perform. All I wanted from MRS. ROSS in her later years was to SHOW to an event wearing some fabulous gown, her face to be beat for the GODS and a weave to die for. I would have been good with just her presence. Whitney and now Mariah losing their voices before they hit 50 is/was disturbung. I hope she bounces back because the girl was singing fool.

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Reply #24 posted 10/07/14 1:26pm

SoulAlive

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Reply #25 posted 10/07/14 1:38pm

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Her mother is an Irish opera singer, and she told her one of these days, putting strain on her voice was going to catch up with her. The source? Mariah. Well, I guess mother knows best shrug
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Reply #26 posted 10/07/14 10:32pm

SoulAlive

Musicslave said:

SoulAlive said:

I don't think she smokes or drinks,but I could be wrong.

It could just be a case of her not maintaining/fine-tuning her voice properly throughout all these years.In any case,she might need to 'fix' a few things before this tour comes to America...change the song arrangements,perhaps.Or leave some of the 'hard-to-sing' songs off the setlist.

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Yeah, seems like she's going to have to pull out some bells and whistles for the buzz surrounding this tour to improve.

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Reply #27 posted 10/08/14 5:59am

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SoulAlive said:

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That's just sad sad sad sad

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I wasn't ever the biggest Mariah fan but I've always respected her gift. I don't see how or why they kicked this tour off, when she's obviously not ready. She would have been better off waiting.

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Those clips (and I'm sure they're just clips from an hour plus show but) are embarrassing.

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Reply #28 posted 10/08/14 8:18am

Identity

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Her mother is an Irish opera singer, and she told her one of these days, putting strain on her voice was going to catch up with her. The source? Mariah. Well, I guess mother knows best shrug







And it appears that time has not in any way diminished her 76-year-old mom's vocal power. Check out mom at 2:00 min.


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Reply #29 posted 10/09/14 1:17am

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I have been following this story as I am going to one of her upcoming shows as my partner loves her. I've been to one of her past concerts and it was terrible, hardly on stage, less than 15 songs and a very high price tag for the show, i was hoping she would not tour for many years so i wouldnt have to see this shambles of a live performer again.

My luck has run out sad



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