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Thread started 08/30/14 3:38pm

MickyDolenz

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List songs you heard on R&B radio stations that you didn't expect

Paul Simon ~ Me And Julio Down By The Schoolyard

Paul Simon ~ Slip Slidin' Away

Depeche Mode ~ Strangelove

Depeche Mode ~ Route 66/Behind The Wheel

Yes ~ Owner Of A Lonely Heart

Kenny Rogers ~ Lady

Dolly Parton ~ Hard Candy Christmas

Pet Shop Boys ~ West End Girls

Cory Hart ~ Sunglasses At Night

Van Halen ~ I'll Wait

Christopher Cross ~ Sailing

Starship ~ We Built This City

Morris Albert ~ Feelings

Suzanne Vega ~ Luka

Suzanne Vega & DNA ~ Tom's Diner

B-52's ~ Love Shack

John Lennon ~ Woman

Miami Sound Machine ~ 1-2-3

Falco ~ Rock Me Amadeus

Sting ~ If You Love Someone Set Them Free

Howard Jones ~ Things Can Only Get Better

Cyndi Lauper ~ She Bop

Terry Jacks ~ Seasons In The Sun

Barbra Streisand ~ Woman In Love

George Harrison ~ My Sweet Lord

Tears For Fears ~ Everyone Wants To Rule The World

Romantics ~ Talking In Your Sleep

Bananarama ~ Venus (remix)

Debby Boone ~ You Light Up My Life

Barry Manilow ~ I Write The Songs

Elton John ~ I Don't Wanna Go On With You Like That

Doobie Brothers ~ Black Water

Thompson Twins ~ Doctor Doctor

Pink Floyd ~ Another Brick In The Wall

Kraftwerk ~ The Telephone Call

You can take a black guy to Nashville from right out of the cotton fields with bib overalls, and they will call him R&B. You can take a white guy in a pin-stripe suit who’s never seen a cotton field, and they will call him country. ~ O. B. McClinton
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Reply #1 posted 08/30/14 3:45pm

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Most of those songs are from 1980s.Did you hear these songs when they were currently hot or just over the years.I remeber hearing Howard Jones-Things can only get better on WBLS.

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Reply #2 posted 08/30/14 5:48pm

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iaminparties said:

Most of those songs are from 1980s. Did you hear these songs when they were currently hot or just over the years. I remember hearing Howard Jones-Things can only get better on WBLS.

Well, I didn't pay that much attention to the R&B stations after around 1987. Even by then I'd say 90% of the radio I listened to was pop Top 40.

You can take a black guy to Nashville from right out of the cotton fields with bib overalls, and they will call him R&B. You can take a white guy in a pin-stripe suit who’s never seen a cotton field, and they will call him country. ~ O. B. McClinton
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Reply #3 posted 08/30/14 9:29pm

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I LOVE This Song..........

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Reply #4 posted 08/30/14 9:30pm

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chriss said:

I LOVE This Song..........

it just keeps increasing with depth and emotion

I never get tired of it!

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Reply #5 posted 08/30/14 11:22pm

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DAMN the songs in the OP on R&B stations?? eek Blows my mind! It's a shame that radio has gotten so much more narrow. Makes it harder to find nerw tunes. Anyway, I'm gonna go the opposite way, I remember hearing "Hey Ya" on even the ROCK stations in Atlanta when that shit came out! lol

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Reply #6 posted 08/31/14 9:36am

MickyDolenz

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guitarslinger44 said:

DAMN the songs in the OP on R&B stations?? eek Blows my mind! It's a shame that radio has gotten so much more narrow. Makes it harder to find nerw tunes. Anyway, I'm gonna go the opposite way, I remember hearing "Hey Ya" on even the ROCK stations in Atlanta when that shit came out! lol

On the local R&B stations, many of the songs had regular or heavy airplay. Need You Tonight and New Sensation by INXS were played too. In the late 1990s, on the hip hop station, there was a call in help/talk show and the host (who was a gangsta rapper) was a James Taylor fan and he would play James songs on many of the programs. I think he played Jim Croce a couple of times. Probably the only time folky music was played on the station. lol

You can take a black guy to Nashville from right out of the cotton fields with bib overalls, and they will call him R&B. You can take a white guy in a pin-stripe suit who’s never seen a cotton field, and they will call him country. ~ O. B. McClinton
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Reply #7 posted 08/31/14 9:42am

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MickyDolenz said:

Paul Simon ~ Me And Julio Down By The Schoolyard

Paul Simon ~ Slip Slidin' Away

Depeche Mode ~ Strangelove

Depeche Mode ~ Route 66/Behind The Wheel

Yes ~ Owner Of A Lonely Heart

Kenny Rogers ~ Lady

Dolly Parton ~ Hard Candy Christmas

Pet Shop Boys ~ West End Girls

Cory Hart ~ Sunglasses At Night

Van Halen ~ I'll Wait

Christopher Cross ~ Sailing

Starship ~ We Built This City

Morris Albert ~ Feelings

Suzanne Vega ~ Luka

Suzanne Vega & DNA ~ Tom's Diner

B-52's ~ Love Shack

John Lennon ~ Woman

Miami Sound Machine ~ 1-2-3

Falco ~ Rock Me Amadeus

Sting ~ If You Love Someone Set Them Free

Howard Jones ~ Things Can Only Get Better

Cyndi Lauper ~ She Bop

Terry Jacks ~ Seasons In The Sun

Barbra Streisand ~ Woman In Love

George Harrison ~ My Sweet Lord

Tears For Fears ~ Everyone Wants To Rule The World

Romantics ~ Talking In Your Sleep

Bananarama ~ Venus (remix)

Debby Boone ~ You Light Up My Life

Barry Manilow ~ I Write The Songs

Elton John ~ I Don't Wanna Go On With You Like That

Doobie Brothers ~ Black Water

Thompson Twins ~ Doctor Doctor

Pink Floyd ~ Another Brick In The Wall

Kraftwerk ~ The Telephone Call


I'm interested in how you were able to compile this list. And how old are you?

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Reply #8 posted 08/31/14 10:10am

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duccichucka said:

I'm interested in how you were able to compile this list.

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You can take a black guy to Nashville from right out of the cotton fields with bib overalls, and they will call him R&B. You can take a white guy in a pin-stripe suit who’s never seen a cotton field, and they will call him country. ~ O. B. McClinton
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Reply #9 posted 08/31/14 3:18pm

duccichucka

MickyDolenz said:

duccichucka said:

I'm interested in how you were able to compile this list.

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If you're going to be a smart ass, then I'm afraid I'll have to call bullshit on this thread: you

didn't personally hear these songs and say "Hm, this is a song that I didn't expect to hear on

an R&B radio station" on your own accord. I was just asking you to explain your methodology

and to give us your age as most of these tunes are from the 80s.

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Reply #10 posted 08/31/14 3:26pm

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duccichucka said:

I was just asking you to explain your methodology

You can take a black guy to Nashville from right out of the cotton fields with bib overalls, and they will call him R&B. You can take a white guy in a pin-stripe suit who’s never seen a cotton field, and they will call him country. ~ O. B. McClinton
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Reply #11 posted 08/31/14 3:47pm

SeventeenDayze

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MickyDolenz said:



If you're going to be a smart ass, then I'm afraid I'll have to call bullshit on this thread: you

didn't personally hear these songs and say "Hm, this is a song that I didn't expect to hear on

an R&B radio station" on your own accord. I was just asking you to explain your methodology

and to give us your age as most of these tunes are from the 80s.

Good point. How do you start a thread and then get rude with folks that ask you to answer a few questions? There are some people on here that aren't worth a response or engagement. smile

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Reply #12 posted 08/31/14 3:56pm

MickyDolenz

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SeventeenDayze said:

Good point. How do you start a thread and then get rude with folks that ask you to answer a few questions? There are some people on here that aren't worth a response or engagement. smile

What's rude about it? The other people posting had no problem figuring it out. lol It's not that serious anyway, it's supposed to be fun and he's always a party poop.

You can take a black guy to Nashville from right out of the cotton fields with bib overalls, and they will call him R&B. You can take a white guy in a pin-stripe suit who’s never seen a cotton field, and they will call him country. ~ O. B. McClinton
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Reply #13 posted 08/31/14 4:35pm

SeventeenDayze

MickyDolenz said:

SeventeenDayze said:

Good point. How do you start a thread and then get rude with folks that ask you to answer a few questions? There are some people on here that aren't worth a response or engagement. smile

What's rude about it? The other people posting had no problem figuring it out. lol It's not that serious anyway, it's supposed to be fun and he's always a party poop.

Okay glad that you have a sense of humor about it then smile

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Reply #14 posted 08/31/14 4:43pm

SoulAlive

"Bennie and The Jets" by Elton John---This song isn't particularly soulful,funky or R&B-sounding in any way.Yet,it was played on R&B radio stations and really caught on with the R&B audience.

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Reply #15 posted 08/31/14 5:35pm

duccichucka

MickyDolenz said:

SeventeenDayze said:

Good point. How do you start a thread and then get rude with folks that ask you to answer a few questions? There are some people on here that aren't worth a response or engagement. smile

What's rude about it? The other people posting had no problem figuring it out. lol It's not that serious anyway, it's supposed to be fun and he's always a party poop.



It was kinda rude, (probably more cheeky than anything), after I asked you what was really

a simple question that didn't actually require cheekiness and coyness, unless, of course, you

didn't compile the list on your own.

But looking back on my original post, you're right - I was being a party poop. Sorry.

Carry on....

Off of the top of my head, I'd nominate some Hall & Oates and maybe some Phil Collins...
"Easy Lover" with Philip Bailey I'm sure charted on the R&B playlists. Yep, one google search

reveals that it did. It's easy to make a list from the 80s, which is when the charts were more

conducive to crossing over, imo.

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Reply #16 posted 08/31/14 5:47pm

SeventeenDayze

SoulAlive said:

"Bennie and The Jets" by Elton John---This song isn't particularly soulful,funky or R&B-sounding in any way.Yet,it was played on R&B radio stations and really caught on with the R&B audience.

This is true especially after Mary J Blige did a remake of this song. All of a sudden Elton John was experiencing a revival of sorts with the R&B crowd. But, I think he always had a large black following in the first place. I guess we have to keep in mind that radio was extremely segregated for much longer than any other element in our society. I guess we could say that the radio landscape has only been less segregated since the 90s? Someone correct me if I'm wrong on any of this.

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Reply #17 posted 08/31/14 6:19pm

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R&B Station is Houston is starting to play classic Hip-Hop from the mid 80s.

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Reply #18 posted 08/31/14 6:36pm

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For me it's Carly Simon's Why and Duran Duran's Notorious. In both cases Nile Rodgers had a hand in producing both. In Duran Duran's case, they even performed the song on Soul Train, which I would have never expected.

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SoulAlive said:

"Bennie and The Jets" by Elton John---This song isn't particularly soulful,funky or R&B-sounding in any way.Yet,it was played on R&B radio stations and really caught on with the R&B audience.

Remember this on Soul Train?




You can take a black guy to Nashville from right out of the cotton fields with bib overalls, and they will call him R&B. You can take a white guy in a pin-stripe suit who’s never seen a cotton field, and they will call him country. ~ O. B. McClinton
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UnderMySun said:

For me it's Carly Simon's Why and Duran Duran's Notorious. In both cases Nile Rodgers had a hand in producing both. In Duran Duran's case, they even performed the song on Soul Train, which I would have never expected.

Didn't hear that, but I've heard You Belong To Me played. I've heard the remix to The Reflex played and Notorious.

You can take a black guy to Nashville from right out of the cotton fields with bib overalls, and they will call him R&B. You can take a white guy in a pin-stripe suit who’s never seen a cotton field, and they will call him country. ~ O. B. McClinton
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Reply #21 posted 08/31/14 7:35pm

SeventeenDayze

Here's another, Mickey. If you're thinking about white artists on Soul Train, there was Michael McDonald, David Bowie, Teena Marie and Dan Hartman, among others like the Beastie Boys:

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Reply #22 posted 08/31/14 7:57pm

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^^It's not really about their race, but about the type of songs. That's why I didn't list any "blue eyed soul" acts. Fishbone was on Soul Train too, and they're not usually the kind of act that was on the show either and they didn't get R&B airplay, at least where I live. Didn't hear them on the pop station either. Teena Marie or Average White Band on Soul Train is not really a that big a deal since they made R&B/funk. Jose Feliciano, who is Puerto Rican, was on Soul Train, but he's not a surprise. If Tracy Chapman, Kathleen Battle, Jon Butcher Axis, or Charley Pride was on Soul Train, then that's different.

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You can take a black guy to Nashville from right out of the cotton fields with bib overalls, and they will call him R&B. You can take a white guy in a pin-stripe suit who’s never seen a cotton field, and they will call him country. ~ O. B. McClinton
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Reply #23 posted 09/01/14 12:01pm

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In my neck of the woods, Suzzane Vega & DNA's "Tom's Diner" probably received more airtime on R&B radio than it did on Pop radio. I remember she was on some show around that time and the host mentioned something about her working with some black guys on the song. She said the members of DNA were white and why would he assume they were black just because it had a beat to it? lol

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Reply #24 posted 09/01/14 12:09pm

SeventeenDayze

MickyDolenz said:

^^It's not really about their race, but about the type of songs. That's why I didn't list any "blue eyed soul" acts. Fishbone was on Soul Train too, and they're not usually the kind of act that was on the show either and they didn't get R&B airplay, at least where I live. Didn't hear them on the pop station either. Teena Marie or Average White Band on Soul Train is not really a that big a deal since they made R&B/funk. Jose Feliciano, who is Puerto Rican, was on Soul Train, but he's not a surprise. If Tracy Chapman, Kathleen Battle, Jon Butcher Axis, or Charley Pride was on Soul Train, then that's different.

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Well, one reason I posted that video was because I was under the impression that the song was played a lot on R&B stations. Otherwise, I doubt he would have been able to make his appearance on Soul Train. It's my understanding that DC had people on the show black or white who appealed to the R&B crowd in general. I'm open to being corrected if I'm wrong on this smile

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Reply #25 posted 09/01/14 1:58pm

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SeventeenDayze said:

Well, one reason I posted that video was because I was under the impression that the song was played a lot on R&B stations. Otherwise, I doubt he would have been able to make his appearance on Soul Train. It's my understanding that DC had people on the show black or white who appealed to the R&B crowd in general. I'm open to being corrected if I'm wrong on this smile

Dan Hartman was considered R&B, like Michael McDonald. He had some R&B airplay before I Can Dream About You. So that's not really the same thing as Van Halen. In the mid 1980s, Don started playing songs that were hits on the Top 40 pop chart like Money For Nothing by Dire Straits. Some people started making jokes calling it "Pop Train". lol He might have been trying to get some of the American Bandstand & Solid Gold audience, since they had higher ratings, and some R&B acts went on Bandstand. Here's what Vainandy had to say about it from another thread:

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The music (nationwide, not just on Soul Train) definitely got much worse after 1984 so I have very little desire to see any episodes past that point for that reason. As for the dancing, after around 1982, the dancing on the show became horrible. Stiff women that reminds me of white women trying to dance "black" but just ain't quite loose enough to pull it off (and I'm talking about the black women on the show being stiff as hell after 1982).

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Guestwise, I'd love to see episodes from 1983 and 1984 but the dancing on the show by then was horrible. I don't know why they became stiff like that. We never became stiff down here and it makes me wonder if Don picked out some dancers that danced stiffer for a more "tame" image because it was around that time that the magazines were accusing him of trying to take the "soul" out of "Soul Train" and appeal to more pop viewers.

Soul Train now airs on BounceTV!

Video Soul also showed pop and rock videos sometimes.

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You can take a black guy to Nashville from right out of the cotton fields with bib overalls, and they will call him R&B. You can take a white guy in a pin-stripe suit who’s never seen a cotton field, and they will call him country. ~ O. B. McClinton
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MickyDolenz said:

duccichucka said:

I was just asking you to explain your methodology

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Reply #27 posted 09/02/14 5:43am

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Id say Prince's 1999 and Purple Rain singles. For me they sounded more rock/pop. where I was more use to him being more R&B/Funk and singing falsetto.
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Reply #28 posted 09/02/14 5:59am

SeventeenDayze

MickyDolenz said:

SeventeenDayze said:

Well, one reason I posted that video was because I was under the impression that the song was played a lot on R&B stations. Otherwise, I doubt he would have been able to make his appearance on Soul Train. It's my understanding that DC had people on the show black or white who appealed to the R&B crowd in general. I'm open to being corrected if I'm wrong on this smile

Dan Hartman was considered R&B, like Michael McDonald. He had some R&B airplay before I Can Dream About You. So that's not really the same thing as Van Halen. In the mid 1980s, Don started playing songs that were hits on the Top 40 pop chart like Money For Nothing by Dire Straits. Some people started making jokes calling it "Pop Train". lol He might have been trying to get some of the American Bandstand & Solid Gold audience, since they had higher ratings, and some R&B acts went on Bandstand. Here's what Vainandy had to say about it from another thread:

vainandy said:

The music (nationwide, not just on Soul Train) definitely got much worse after 1984 so I have very little desire to see any episodes past that point for that reason. As for the dancing, after around 1982, the dancing on the show became horrible. Stiff women that reminds me of white women trying to dance "black" but just ain't quite loose enough to pull it off (and I'm talking about the black women on the show being stiff as hell after 1982).

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Guestwise, I'd love to see episodes from 1983 and 1984 but the dancing on the show by then was horrible. I don't know why they became stiff like that. We never became stiff down here and it makes me wonder if Don picked out some dancers that danced stiffer for a more "tame" image because it was around that time that the magazines were accusing him of trying to take the "soul" out of "Soul Train" and appeal to more pop viewers.

Soul Train now airs on BounceTV!

Video Soul also showed pop and rock videos sometimes.

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Interesting theory here. Well, Dan Hartman's appearance appeared to be in the mid 80s around the time you're saying that soul train was changing. I don't know if Dan Hartman had any other appearances on the show before the one that I posted. Do you? Michael McDonald I think may have first appeared with the Doobie Brothers but I don't quite remember. They were embraced by the R&B crowd from the start, from what I can tell. So, it's kinda like Michael McDonald never left the R&B audience while Hartman found his way to it. Make sense? smile

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