What if he was Esquerita? hear me out...

Esquerita came before Little Richard.

What if Esquerita was an alien? who wanted to escape from his home world. So he took on an identiy as a singer. After Little Richard became famous and wouldn't shut up about being ''the king of rock n roll'' Esquerita man... esque real mad!

He was doing things like this before Richard. So he eventually decided to turn himself into Elvis. He wanted reveneg against richard for what he had done. And that's why Elvlis could dance all good and wore afros.

He became bigger than richard could have imagined. And people started calling Elvis the king of rock n roll. Esquerita grew tired of the ''esquerita'' label and ended him in 1968.

And then he decided to end Elvis in 1977. And go back to his home planet. Cause he took over the world for quite a few years.


I think this is the truth behind Elvis. We'll get into how Rick James made MJ a bigger star over Prince in the next edition...

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Guess y'all can't handle the facts.

I'm gonna give a straight answer (ignoring everything but your thread title, because I just can't wrap my head around your scenario)--

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If Elvis weren't white, but instead a black performer who combined the same musical threads (but to far less public/white acclaim), he'd be one of those people that got pointed back to as a victim when critics discussed the "cultural theft" that would have eventually been performed by some white guy--maybe someone we actually know in the real world we all live in, but maybe someone completely different with a similar skill/personality set as the Elvis we know. The non-white Elvis would have been a hazy figure, with maybe only a handful of sides ever recorded. But even though no one could know for sure whether any important figures ever heard those recordings or not, music historians would probably overrate them in quality and influence, simply because it's fun to argue for the overlooked underdog. And, without a lot of the later weaker material a heavily recorded long career inevitably involves, those 5 or 6 rare singles would seem absolutely incredible, and the album finally compiled from them in the early days of CD would be considered one of the finest ever. Not necessarily deservedly so, but it would be.

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At some point, someone making similar music would have hit it big--too many people, black and white, were stirring the same pot for the sound not to catch on with the mainstream/white population--but that person probably would have been white, not black.

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LOL Elvis wouldn't have sold a 10th of what he did if he weren't white.

Dont' get me wrong, Elvis was a talented MF, good looking as hell, and a bad motherfucker in his early career. He DESERVED to sell what he did. Dude took some chances. But if he were black, no one would know who he was outside of real music fans.

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But if he "were black" he sure could have been at least as famous as some of the black rock'n'rollers of the time?

Pat Boone would've stole his songs too

HuMpThAnG said:

Pat Boone would've stole his songs too

Pat Boone was 100% caucasion. Not alien at all... Pat was the whitest man of all time.

TONYVANDAM!!! Where are you? i need your opinions

Well it definitely would have led to some uncomfortable conversations between Elvis' mom and dad.

3000 said:

Would'nt have had a career

Actually, he would probably be unsung.

Phrases like "If he was white" probably occur

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HuMpThAnG said:

Pat Boone would've stole his songs too

this bogus and joking thread. Got turned into a serious discusion. i didn't expect that this at all.

So The "Black Elvis" would not have sold as many records back in the day and a "White Michael Jackson" would have sold way more during his day. What about The Supremes? Would a White Female Group with the same sound have sold more records and had more #1's?

Chancellor said:

3000 said:

Chancellor said:

So The "Black Elvis" would not have sold as many records back in the day and a "White Michael Jackson" would have sold way more during his day. What about The Supremes? Would a White Female Group with the same sound have sold more records and had more #1's?

Possibly, infact during their heyday the white community were more fond of the supremes than the black community. What worked for them was the fact that they were catered specifically to white America.

damn near the whole Motown sound was

Chancellor said:

So The "Black Elvis" would not have sold as many records back in the day and a "White Michael Jackson?" would have sold way more during his day. What about The Supremes? Would a White Female Group with the same sound have sold more records and had more #1's?

He's called Justin Timberlake

Now having gone back to the original post and deciding to try to find out a little about Esquerita...

Somewhat interesting. Thanks for mentioning him, Gunsnhalen.

EddieC said:

Now having gone back to the original post and deciding to try to find out a little about Esquerita...

Somewhat interesting. Thanks for mentioning him, Gunsnhalen.

In all seriousness though. I do wonder if ole dude was ever mad at Richard. It's obvious he came before LR and inspired him a bit. So when richard is alwayays on about his i'm the king of rock n roll talk. Esquerita must have not been pleased.

Gunsnhalen said:

EddieC said:

Now having gone back to the original post and deciding to try to find out a little about Esquerita...

Somewhat interesting. Thanks for mentioning him, Gunsnhalen.

In all seriousness though. I do wonder if ole dude was ever mad at Richard. It's obvious he came before LR and inspired him a bit. So when richard is alwayays on about his i'm the king of rock n roll talk. Esquerita must have not been pleased.

Seems like he did some complaining--but I'm kind of enjoying his slower less Little Richard-like tracks. Not so much the piano pounding ones. Those don't thrill me (though I heard a pretty cool hiccup scream on one of them that was actually interesting--and broke the routine). But then I've always liked Little Richard more as a character than a musician, honestly, so it's maybe not surprising that I prefer the tracks that are less like him (whoever came up with the sound originally).