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Thread started 06/25/14 5:16pm

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Janet Jackson fans unite for a campaign video to induct her into the Rock N Roll Hall of Fame

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Reply #1 posted 06/25/14 5:37pm

Shawy89

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Fuck her Grammys and number one hits. Fuck Janet Jackson in that matter. I hope the only hall of fame she gets inducted in is Nipplegate Hall of Fame.

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Reply #2 posted 06/25/14 5:54pm

Marrk

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Fuck her Grammys and number one hits. Fuck Janet Jackson in that matter. I hope the only hall of fame she gets inducted in is Nipplegate Hall of Fame.

I read your post then read your signature. That's all. lol

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Reply #3 posted 06/25/14 6:17pm

luvsexy4all

next..joan jett and deep purple

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Reply #4 posted 06/25/14 9:48pm

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If people knew how the Hall Of Fame works, then they would know that a petition is useless.

You can take a black guy to Nashville from right out of the cotton fields with bib overalls, and they will call him R&B. You can take a white guy in a pin-stripe suit who’s never seen a cotton field, and they will call him country. ~ O. B. McClinton
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Reply #5 posted 06/26/14 6:32am

Musicslave

Noble gesture but for some reason, these petitions feel like they fall on deaf ears.

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Reply #6 posted 06/27/14 3:33pm

SEANMAN

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This isn't a new thing. This campaign, if you will, has been going on for at least three years, maybe even a little longer. There are articles written about it, Facebook pages dedicated to it, other Youtube videos created about it, Tweets that have gone out about it, and so forth and so on. She's been eligible since 2007, and it's criminal that she's never even been on a ballot, let alone been inducted. The fact remains undeniable that she helped to create the blueprint that everyone from Beyonce (and her sister) and Rihanna to Britney and Ciara follow. It goes without saying that when RiRi and Britney pull a guy on stage, Janet's done it before. When Ciara performs intricate choreography in a music video to a sexy beat, Janet's done it before. When Gaga wears a hand bra in a video or marches in time along with militant dancers in a music video, Janet has done it before. Whenever J-Lo does her thing in a video, on stage or on a pop track, Janet's indelible stamp is firmly stamped upon it. And those are only just a handful of artists who've either paid due homage to or blatantly taken from Janet's style (even male artists such as Chris Brown and Usher have paid homage to her in their videos). The fact that Rolling Stone magazine co-founder Jann Wenner (a man who reportedly doesn't care much for Janet at all) is a big wig on the committee is probably one of the main reasons she's never even received a nomination. It's a HIGHLY political process, and it's pathetic that some artists have to die before they get in. There's a guy on Janet-Xone who's well in tune with the process, and he recently said that the tides are turning on the RNR HOF committee--that a lot of the "old heads" who refused to nominate well-deserving people are being ousted, so to speak (which is why KISS, who've been snubbed for many years, finally got inducted). He also said that QuestLove joined the committee last year, and that he was instrumental in getting Hall & Oates their nomination this year. He said that QuestLove directly told him that he'd push for Janet next year, and that other committee members he's reached out to all agree that Janet deserves a nomination. Anyway, with that being said, with the way Janet has influenced a generation of performers to come after her, be it in fashion/personal style-wise, visually and/or creatively, the fact that she remains nomination-free seven years after eligibilty is ridiculous. She's truly the last Jackson who deserves her place in the Hall. The ironic thing though is that she probably, truly doesn't give a shit.

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Reply #7 posted 06/27/14 5:02pm

Schubert

Latoya Jackson? Yes. Janet Jackson? No.

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Reply #8 posted 06/27/14 7:33pm

SoulAlive

hmmm I don't know if these type of petitions actually work.I was pissed that Donna Summer had to die before they decided to induct her.

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Reply #9 posted 06/28/14 10:21am

SEANMAN

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Schubert said:

Latoya Jackson? Yes. Janet Jackson? No.

lol You funny.

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Reply #10 posted 06/29/14 7:34am

kimberly1

SEANMAN said:

This isn't a new thing. This campaign, if you will, has been going on for at least three years, maybe even a little longer. There are articles written about it, Facebook pages dedicated to it, other Youtube videos created about it, Tweets that have gone out about it, and so forth and so on. She's been eligible since 2007, and it's criminal that she's never even been on a ballot, let alone been inducted. The fact remains undeniable that she helped to create the blueprint that everyone from Beyonce (and her sister) and Rihanna to Britney and Ciara follow. It goes without saying that when RiRi and Britney pull a guy on stage, Janet's done it before. When Ciara performs intricate choreography in a music video to a sexy beat, Janet's done it before. When Gaga wears a hand bra in a video or marches in time along with militant dancers in a music video, Janet has done it before. Whenever J-Lo does her thing in a video, on stage or on a pop track, Janet's indelible stamp is firmly stamped upon it. And those are only just a handful of artists who've either paid due homage to or blatantly taken from Janet's style (even male artists such as Chris Brown and Usher have paid homage to her in their videos). The fact that Rolling Stone magazine co-founder Jann Wenner (a man who reportedly doesn't care much for Janet at all) is a big wig on the committee is probably one of the main reasons she's never even received a nomination. It's a HIGHLY political process, and it's pathetic that some artists have to die before they get in. There's a guy on Janet-Xone who's well in tune with the process, and he recently said that the tides are turning on the RNR HOF committee--that a lot of the "old heads" who refused to nominate well-deserving people are being ousted, so to speak (which is why KISS, who've been snubbed for many years, finally got inducted). He also said that QuestLove joined the committee last year, and that he was instrumental in getting Hall & Oates their nomination this year. He said that QuestLove directly told him that he'd push for Janet next year, and that other committee members he's reached out to all agree that Janet deserves a nomination. Anyway, with that being said, with the way Janet has influenced a generation of performers to come after her, be it in fashion/personal style-wise, visually and/or creatively, the fact that she remains nomination-free seven years after eligibilty is ridiculous. She's truly the last Jackson who deserves her place in the Hall. The ironic thing though is that she probably, truly doesn't give a shit.

Super video! Janet rocks! And may she remain happy where she is in life because she ""She probably, truly doesn't give a shit"".

ThankUPrince!
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Reply #11 posted 06/29/14 9:19am

SEANMAN

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kimberly1 said:

SEANMAN said:

This isn't a new thing. This campaign, if you will, has been going on for at least three years, maybe even a little longer. There are articles written about it, Facebook pages dedicated to it, other Youtube videos created about it, Tweets that have gone out about it, and so forth and so on. She's been eligible since 2007, and it's criminal that she's never even been on a ballot, let alone been inducted. The fact remains undeniable that she helped to create the blueprint that everyone from Beyonce (and her sister) and Rihanna to Britney and Ciara follow. It goes without saying that when RiRi and Britney pull a guy on stage, Janet's done it before. When Ciara performs intricate choreography in a music video to a sexy beat, Janet's done it before. When Gaga wears a hand bra in a video or marches in time along with militant dancers in a music video, Janet has done it before. Whenever J-Lo does her thing in a video, on stage or on a pop track, Janet's indelible stamp is firmly stamped upon it. And those are only just a handful of artists who've either paid due homage to or blatantly taken from Janet's style (even male artists such as Chris Brown and Usher have paid homage to her in their videos). The fact that Rolling Stone magazine co-founder Jann Wenner (a man who reportedly doesn't care much for Janet at all) is a big wig on the committee is probably one of the main reasons she's never even received a nomination. It's a HIGHLY political process, and it's pathetic that some artists have to die before they get in. There's a guy on Janet-Xone who's well in tune with the process, and he recently said that the tides are turning on the RNR HOF committee--that a lot of the "old heads" who refused to nominate well-deserving people are being ousted, so to speak (which is why KISS, who've been snubbed for many years, finally got inducted). He also said that QuestLove joined the committee last year, and that he was instrumental in getting Hall & Oates their nomination this year. He said that QuestLove directly told him that he'd push for Janet next year, and that other committee members he's reached out to all agree that Janet deserves a nomination. Anyway, with that being said, with the way Janet has influenced a generation of performers to come after her, be it in fashion/personal style-wise, visually and/or creatively, the fact that she remains nomination-free seven years after eligibilty is ridiculous. She's truly the last Jackson who deserves her place in the Hall. The ironic thing though is that she probably, truly doesn't give a shit.

Super video! Janet rocks! And may she remain happy where she is in life because she ""She probably, truly doesn't give a shit"".

thumbs up!

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Reply #12 posted 06/29/14 9:38am

duccichucka

I think this board vastly overrates her - JJ's producers were more integral to her music than her

own overall talent, but due to her run in the late 80s and early 90s, and the records she made

and broke, Janet Jackson oughta be in the Rock N Roll HoF.

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Reply #13 posted 06/29/14 12:06pm

kidmelody2012

janet doesnt do Rock and Roll u people must be deaf?

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Reply #14 posted 06/30/14 2:32am

Scotsman1999

It should really be renamed the 'Pop and Rock Hall Of Fame', due to the kind of artists who get nominated. That's just a sign of the times...popular music isn't just 'Rock N Roll' any more.

I loved Janet up to and including Rhythm Nation, but after that my interest waned. Whether her work after those first two or three albums warrants a nomination is debatable, but she left her mark when she started out.

I just get the feeling that having to enter someone every single year means they're starting to scrape the bottom of the barrel. Reaching out for artists who are mid-tier and not necessarily 'legends' however you would want to qualify such a word.

Once you beyond the obvious like Stevie Wonder, Paul McCartney, MJ, Pink Floyd, Bruce, Led Zep etc., then I think it becomes just an exercise in picking someone for the sake of keeping things going.

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Reply #15 posted 06/30/14 5:57am

Qazz

duccichucka said:

I think this board vastly overrates her - JJ's producers were more integral to her music than her


own overall talent, but due to her run in the late 80s and early 90s, and the records she made


and broke, Janet Jackson oughta be in the Rock N Roll HoF.



I'm glad someone said it. This board completely overrates Janet and in general I find her fans so obnoxious and OTT in their defense of her that when she gets snubbed or not given all the credit she MIGHT deserve it almost doesn't bother me. If she ever puts out any new music, I wonder if they'll put this much energy into buying it as they do in petty nonsense like this.
"Janet Jackson is like an 80s sitcom that's been off the air for over 25 years; you see a rerun and realize it wasn't that great..."
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Reply #16 posted 06/30/14 12:08pm

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kidmelody2012 said:

janet doesnt do Rock and Roll u people must be deaf?

As plenty of other people that have been inducted into the Hall of fame. So your point is?? Oh right, your point is to troll.

The way things are you don't really need be a rock n roll act, so Janet certainly would be deserving of a spot. But really, they should just change their name to "(Popular) music hall of fame" and that (stupid) argument wouldn't come up again.

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Reply #17 posted 06/30/14 3:16pm

SEANMAN

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kidmelody2012 said:

janet doesnt do Rock and Roll u people must be deaf?

One doesn't have to do Rock n Roll to be inducted. All musicians, from Rock to Hip Hop to R&B to Pop have been inducted. It's a general name, but perhaps they should just call it the Music Hall of Fame.

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Reply #18 posted 06/30/14 3:24pm

SEANMAN

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Qazz said:

duccichucka said:

I think this board vastly overrates her - JJ's producers were more integral to her music than her

own overall talent, but due to her run in the late 80s and early 90s, and the records she made

and broke, Janet Jackson oughta be in the Rock N Roll HoF.

I'm glad someone said it. This board completely overrates Janet and in general I find her fans so obnoxious and OTT in their defense of her that when she gets snubbed or not given all the credit she MIGHT deserve it almost doesn't bother me. If she ever puts out any new music, I wonder if they'll put this much energy into buying it as they do in petty nonsense like this.

lol What a laugh. If anything, this board and many other boards completely UNDERrate her. While every other day there's a thread popping up about Beyonce or Madonna or whomever, the woman who helped create the blueprint for the modern-day dance diva (Janet) is hardly ever spoken of, and when she is, the threads are trolled by people who dismiss the many records and achievements she obtained over the years. And, if you think Janet fans are obnoxious, then you need to take a look at the fanbase of the two other women I just named, for starters, and you'll see what obnoxious really is.

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Reply #19 posted 07/01/14 10:53am

lowkey

where is all this overrated that janet gets on this board? she probably gets the least amount of props than all of her peers despite her career accomplishments and her catalog of music.her fans are no worse than any other pop artist fanbase,the janet fans are no where on the level of mj,beyonce and a few others.all the other artists works with producers, but for some reason janet is the only one who is successful solely because of her producers.not liking her music or her for that matter (even though i have no idea what janet has done to make people not like her) has nothing to do with her deserving to be inducted into the hall of fame.she meets and exceeds every so called criteria that bogus hall of fame claim to use.

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Reply #20 posted 07/01/14 1:21pm

SEANMAN

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lowkey said:

where is all this overrated that janet gets on this board? she probably gets the least amount of props than all of her peers despite her career accomplishments and her catalog of music.her fans are no worse than any other pop artist fanbase,the janet fans are no where on the level of mj,beyonce and a few others

This.

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Reply #21 posted 07/01/14 2:09pm

JoeTyler

If Janet finally gets inducted, she would be the "least R&R" of all the artists of that sorry-ass "museum"

Janet makes Madonna sound like Joan Jett...

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Reply #22 posted 07/01/14 10:21pm

JanFan

In what way, shape or form is Janet overrated on this forum? If anything it's the opposite. You say she she's overrated and a product of her producers, yet that could apply to a large portion of those in the RRHOF. How many songs has Donna Summer, Aretha Franklin, Madonna, Tina Turner or the Supremes solo written or self-produced? With the exception of maybe Madonna, none of them have. So all of these inductees' "true artistry" should be questioned. Many artists need great producers to bring out the best in them. Look at Michael's work with Quincy Jones compared to his post work. Vast difference. That is what Jimmy and Terry was for Janet. She's has co-written and co-produced majority of her work. And to say she shouldn't be inducted into the Rock hall because she doesn't do Rock is a hypocrisy. What rock does Madonna, Donna Summer, Run DMC (sans Walk this Way), Aretha or Public Enemy do? Clearly you don't have to be a Rock artist to be inducted or else all of the aforementioned would ineligible. There's clearly a bias toward Janet on here for whatever reason. It's cool if you don't think she should be inducted. But at least come up with a legitimate non-bias reason as to why you think so. Because the reasons some of you listed or just flimsy and inaccurate.

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Reply #23 posted 07/02/14 4:40am

JoeTyler

JanFan said:

In what way, shape or form is Janet overrated on this forum? If anything it's the opposite. You say she she's overrated and a product of her producers, yet that could apply to a large portion of those in the RRHOF. How many songs has Donna Summer, Aretha Franklin, Madonna, Tina Turner or the Supremes solo written or self-produced? With the exception of maybe Madonna, none of them have. So all of these inductees' "true artistry" should be questioned. Many artists need great producers to bring out the best in them. Look at Michael's work with Quincy Jones compared to his post work. Vast difference. That is what Jimmy and Terry was for Janet. She's has co-written and co-produced majority of her work. And to say she shouldn't be inducted into the Rock hall because she doesn't do Rock is a hypocrisy. What rock does Madonna, Donna Summer, Run DMC (sans Walk this Way), Aretha or Public Enemy do? Clearly you don't have to be a Rock artist to be inducted or else all of the aforementioned would ineligible. There's clearly a bias toward Janet on here for whatever reason. It's cool if you don't think she should be inducted. But at least come up with a legitimate non-bias reason as to why you think so. Because the reasons some of you listed or just flimsy and inaccurate.

as I've said, Janet would be the least R&R of all the inductees

Madonna has plenty of synth-rock songs, Run DMC was basically rock with rhymes

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Reply #24 posted 07/02/14 5:58am

datdude

ummm, Hall & Oates and Donna Summer just got in. period. i understand if ppl don't like her but everyone KNOWS the Hall is NOT about the GENRE of music you do, but how influential you are in what you DO do

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Reply #25 posted 07/02/14 6:42am

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But, she sucks.

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Reply #26 posted 07/02/14 2:00pm

lowkey

JanFan said:

In what way, shape or form is Janet overrated on this forum? If anything it's the opposite. You say she she's overrated and a product of her producers, yet that could apply to a large portion of those in the RRHOF. How many songs has Donna Summer, Aretha Franklin, Madonna, Tina Turner or the Supremes solo written or self-produced? With the exception of maybe Madonna, none of them have. So all of these inductees' "true artistry" should be questioned. Many artists need great producers to bring out the best in them. Look at Michael's work with Quincy Jones compared to his post work. Vast difference. That is what Jimmy and Terry was for Janet. She's has co-written and co-produced majority of her work. And to say she shouldn't be inducted into the Rock hall because she doesn't do Rock is a hypocrisy. What rock does Madonna, Donna Summer, Run DMC (sans Walk this Way), Aretha or Public Enemy do? Clearly you don't have to be a Rock artist to be inducted or else all of the aforementioned would ineligible. There's clearly a bias toward Janet on here for whatever reason. It's cool if you don't think she should be inducted. But at least come up with a legitimate non-bias reason as to why you think so. Because the reasons some of you listed or just flimsy and inaccurate.

exactly,who is overrating her? its like janet's fans cant say she did something good or they enjoy her work like every other fanbase.ive never heard anybody say janet is the greatest this and that of all time,her fans think shes great at what she does,at the same time ive seen fans call her out on things that wasnt so good. nobody can come up with a legit reason for janet not to be in that hall of fame so they resort to insults and downplaying her success.and how would janet be the least r&r artist when you got the entire motown roster in there,donna summer was the queen of disco which was considered anti r&r.aretha is the queen of soul i could go on and on.

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Reply #27 posted 07/02/14 2:49pm

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JoeTyler said:

JanFan said:

In what way, shape or form is Janet overrated on this forum? If anything it's the opposite. You say she she's overrated and a product of her producers, yet that could apply to a large portion of those in the RRHOF. How many songs has Donna Summer, Aretha Franklin, Madonna, Tina Turner or the Supremes solo written or self-produced? With the exception of maybe Madonna, none of them have. So all of these inductees' "true artistry" should be questioned. Many artists need great producers to bring out the best in them. Look at Michael's work with Quincy Jones compared to his post work. Vast difference. That is what Jimmy and Terry was for Janet. She's has co-written and co-produced majority of her work. And to say she shouldn't be inducted into the Rock hall because she doesn't do Rock is a hypocrisy. What rock does Madonna, Donna Summer, Run DMC (sans Walk this Way), Aretha or Public Enemy do? Clearly you don't have to be a Rock artist to be inducted or else all of the aforementioned would ineligible. There's clearly a bias toward Janet on here for whatever reason. It's cool if you don't think she should be inducted. But at least come up with a legitimate non-bias reason as to why you think so. Because the reasons some of you listed or just flimsy and inaccurate.

as I've said, Janet would be the least R&R of all the inductees

Madonna has plenty of synth-rock songs, Run DMC was basically rock with rhymes

Not that it matters because, as we've established, you don't have to be a rock artist to be inducted into the RNR HOF, but Janet has done rock and she's done it well ("Black Cat", "Trust a Try"--even "If" had rock guitars in it). She even has a Best Rock Female Vocal Grammy nomination to her name (she's the only artist in the history of the Grammys to have nominations spanning the ROCK, POP, DANCE, R&B and HIP-HOP categories).

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Reply #28 posted 07/02/14 4:21pm

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Fuck her Grammys and number one hits. Fuck Janet Jackson in that matter. I hope the only hall of fame she gets inducted in is Nipplegate Hall of Fame.

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Reply #29 posted 07/02/14 5:47pm

JoeTyler

seriously, yall: Janet a ROCK artist?

lol, she makes MJ sound like Prince...

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