She is the perfect example of a talented singer (In her case, brilliant singer -- see below) that is forced to do bubblegum / corny pop music.

I'm more than sure that her label forces her to do that.. like, you gonna say she loves being in the studio with fast-meal producers and go this route?!

Yes, I have it on authority she is forced at gunpoint to make those shitty records.

Damn you music industry! Damn you to HEEELLLLLLLLL!

bobzilla77 said:

Yes, I have it on authority she is forced at gunpoint to make those shitty records.

Damn you music industry! Damn you to HEEELLLLLLLLL!

I can see her doing art rock music, or opera, or whatever, even pop music if she recruites the right people,, but a talent like her can like simply agree to do that.

Same goes for a lot of artists really, even the ones who start with good material, they later compromise their art.

There really isnt room in this market for her (meaning the USA) we really are one trick pony in this country pretty much. Cause lets face it they paired her with everyone from pharrel to timbaland to 50 cent to whomever was the hot one of the day, which is the way marketing goes in this country, its all see through. She did a track with Sting, it wound up on a commercial cause the USA felt that wasnt "what we want from her here", a track with Coldplays Chris Martin was done and then shelved by her label here. Overseas its different she just launched her own clothing line, has a second album on the way and the first one sold pretty well there, and she has the popularity there, they freaking love her like a kylie minogue type almost, she can do anything over there and pretty much anywhere in the world, dont feel bad for her, feel bad for the USA and its brain dead marketing.

haha I think you're confused perhaps...What makes you think she was "forced" to do pop? In her entire career she wrote maybe 10 songs or less, correct? It's not like she was ever a talented songwriter who wanted to sing her own songs from the beginning, she was willing to do whatever that would make her rich and famous, no offense to her or the poster, no?

She can sing perhaps but that's the only gift she has, and there's literally a million people who can sing. Out of all those people Nicole was able to make money off of it while others usually settle at being a choir member at church....I'm sorry I really don't get why you would feel sorry for her...

I don't know. I really liked that song she did "Right There" a few years back, but I'll never forgive her for breaking up The Pussycat Dolls because she didn't-want-the-other-girls-to-sing-didn't-want-to-do-all-the-work. It was a messy merry-go-round that didn't have to happen. And look what happened to her career anyways.

lastdecember said:

There really isnt room in this market for her (meaning the USA) we really are one trick pony in this country pretty much. Cause lets face it they paired her with everyone from pharrel to timbaland to 50 cent to whomever was the hot one of the day, which is the way marketing goes in this country, its all see through. She did a track with Sting, it wound up on a commercial cause the USA felt that wasnt "what we want from her here", a track with Coldplays Chris Martin was done and then shelved by her label here. Overseas its different she just launched her own clothing line, has a second album on the way and the first one sold pretty well there, and she has the popularity there, they freaking love her like a kylie minogue type almost, she can do anything over there and pretty much anywhere in the world, dont feel bad for her, feel bad for the USA and its brain dead marketing.

Kylie Minogue's entire career is a testament to that. Having a successful song or two in the US is a nice feather in one's cap, but not really necessary for a successful long term career in the music biz as a recording artist.

UnderMySun said:

lastdecember said:

There really isnt room in this market for her (meaning the USA) we really are one trick pony in this country pretty much. Cause lets face it they paired her with everyone from pharrel to timbaland to 50 cent to whomever was the hot one of the day, which is the way marketing goes in this country, its all see through. She did a track with Sting, it wound up on a commercial cause the USA felt that wasnt "what we want from her here", a track with Coldplays Chris Martin was done and then shelved by her label here. Overseas its different she just launched her own clothing line, has a second album on the way and the first one sold pretty well there, and she has the popularity there, they freaking love her like a kylie minogue type almost, she can do anything over there and pretty much anywhere in the world, dont feel bad for her, feel bad for the USA and its brain dead marketing.

Kylie Minogue's entire career is a testament to that. Having a successful song or two in the US is a nice feather in one's cap, but not really necessary for a successful long term career in the music biz as a recording artist.

Yeah Ask QUEEN if they really cared that america only bought a couple of their songs and albums, while the rest of the world made them ONE of the biggest selling groups of all time.

I feel bad for her because she just can't seem to get her solo career off the ground.She releases the same type of crap that Rihanna and Beyonce releases,but yet her efforts are ignored.It's really unfair.

and the thing is...she actually has talent.It's gotta be frustrating for her.

She's really pretty,though.I'm surprised that Hollywood hasn't come calling,asking her to appear in films.

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Nicole has the total package so I don't know why she isn't as popular as other popstars. I read on another site someone suggest she get a better stage name to something more memorable or something that rolls of the tongue. I guess that is kind of true but that can't be the only thing hindering her.

lastdecember said:

UnderMySun said:

Kylie Minogue's entire career is a testament to that. Having a successful song or two in the US is a nice feather in one's cap, but not really necessary for a successful long term career in the music biz as a recording artist.

Yeah Ask QUEEN if they really cared that america only bought a couple of their songs and albums, while the rest of the world made them ONE of the biggest selling groups of all time.

Exactly. And lets not forget that Queen was the only rock band that had KISS worried. Gene Simmons admitted that he was relived that Queen's success in America was short-lived.

TonyVanDam said:

lastdecember said:

Yeah Ask QUEEN if they really cared that america only bought a couple of their songs and albums, while the rest of the world made them ONE of the biggest selling groups of all time.

Exactly. And lets not forget that Queen was the only rock band that had KISS worried. Gene Simmons admitted that he was relived that Queen's success in America was short-lived.

Yeah QUEEN were always a little bit put off by "losing america" but they didnt lose sleep on it, I mean when you sell out stadiums overseas that make OUR stadiums look like clubs, they didnt lose much sleep over it.

As for Nicole i never really understood what people think or where they feel she should be? Most of the time i feel that people just feel she should have had Rhianna type success or Katy Perry or something like that. But that is basing it on USA, she doesnt have any issues overseas, she is huge over there, in the UK she is fucking royality almost, her solo work did ok over there and im sure the next one will, overseas they are a bit more "loyal" then here, ask Tina Turner who survived ages over there never having much success here, then blowing up here but still going right back to her life THERE. The music market is HUGE the usa is a small fraction and getting smaller, ask groups like Girls Aloud if they cared that none of their records got released here, as they had the longest top 10 streak ever in the UK and were the biggest girl group ever. I dont get what people are feeling sorry for here? Feeling sorry the USA didnt make her a mega star here like Rhianna, no thanks.

Dare I suggest this?

Just because someone can sing a particular type of music doesn't mean they want to. Or that singing something that you don't like or value means that the performer is selling out (or selling his or her soul, or whatever).

Could it be possible that she makes pop music because, just maybe, SHE LIKES POP MUSIC? And that fiddling around with other things isn't all that important to her, or at most is only part of what she wants to do as an artist?

A whole lot of people enjoy and value pop music--why is it so unbelievable that someone who could make other types of music might also like pop, too?

She was christened by Prince! She will be ok....[img:$uid]http://pic80.picturetrail.com:80/VOL2084/9118410/23615037/394167837.jpg[/img:$uid]

Plus she is FINE as hell. She will always find work in other "entertainment" fields . Like her hot orgasmic scene in her Herbal Essence commercials...