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Thread started 01/07/14 5:39pm

xperience319

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So i see why Bowie does not want to tour anymore!

Reading up on the Glass Spider Tour...sounded terrible!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glass_Spider_Tour

The tour took a physical toll on Bowie. Not only did he grow noticeably thinner over the course of the tour,[2] he found that he was exhausted before the tour even started:

I think [tours like this] are extravagantly dangerous to do because they're so fucking tiring. Just the pressures of organising the event, and it's no longer a show, it's an event. Even before you go out on tour, you're knackered. There's God knows how many people running around, and everybody's doing something and people are forgetting to delegate jobs to the right people, and it's a mass of confusion and somehow it's all supposed to come together.[32]

The tour played at large-capacity venues, and in Europe the tour alternated between indoor and outdoor, open-field venues.[2] Michael Clark, a lighting engineer for the tour, died at the Stadio Comunale in Florence, Italy on 9 June after falling from the scaffolding before the show commenced.[33] The following day on 10 June, another worker fell (without lethal injury) while helping build the set in Milan. Mobs of fans, some who had camped out overnight to get into the venue, rioted and had to be controlled by police.[2][34] Both shows in Rome (on 15 and 16 June) saw similar rioting as fans who could not get tickets to the shows clashed with police. On the second night, Bowie had to sing through tear gas as 50 people were arrested and 15 policemen were injured in the rioting.[35] As the band's plane was leaving Rome after their show on 16 June, a bomb scare forced the plane to return the airport, only to discover that the local chief of police had used it as ruse to get Bowie's autograph. Said Bowie of the incident, "I was not so much annoyed as stunned – that could only happen in Italy!"[36]

The 27 June concert, originally scheduled to be performed at Ullevi,Gothenburg, Sweden had to be moved to

nearby Eriksberg in Hisingen because a previous concert by Bruce Springsteen held at Ullevi Stadium incurred £2.7m (or about £6m today)[37] in damages. A fan trying to enter the Slane Castle backstage area by swimming the River Boyne drowned just before the show on 11 July.[2]

At one point during the European tour, guitarist Carlos Alomar ripped a ligament in his leg, an injury that caused him to change his on-stage character. Said Alomar, "[I] had to change my character into the mad, limping Mad Max reject with spiky hair. I went to a chiropractor and asked him for a lot of metal stuff -- leg braces, back braces and everything. Now I'll be adding more metal as the show progresses."[38]

Bowie was occasionally visited or had his shows attended by European royalty, including Princess Diana at the second show in Wembley Stadium; Sarah, Duchess of York at Sunderland; and Danish Prince Joachim and Crown Prince Frederik at Stadt Park.[2]

The Glass Spider Tour was the first Bowie tour to reach Austria, Italy, Spain, Ireland and Wales.[2] Some of the outdoor performances in Britain had to start early due to curfew laws (a problem typically avoided in other European shows), which reduced the impact of the lighting of the stage and set dressing, and bothered Bowie considerably.[2][23]

During the North American leg of the tour, a 30-year-old woman claimed that Bowie sexually assaulted her at the Mansion Hotel after a show at Reunion Arena in Dallas, Texas. A grand jury cleared Bowie of all charges a year later.[39]



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Reply #1 posted 01/07/14 7:11pm

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the glass spider tour was in 1987, he did tons of touring until his final tour of 2003 for Reality. so i fail to see the relevance of any of that. its only been since his heart attack in 2004 that he hasnt toured. it seems he decided to enjoy a personal life more so than a constant musical one since then.

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Reply #2 posted 01/07/14 7:29pm

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a tour is a major undertaking. i can understand the appeal of just recording new music without the hassle of touring, especially at Bowie's age. He ain't young anymore.

I did a ranking of his albums in recognition of his birthday:

http://www.metroweekly.co...first.html

I'm sure most will disagree heh. But it's all just opinion. cool

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Reply #3 posted 01/07/14 7:40pm

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savagedreams said:

the glass spider tour was in 1987, he did tons of touring until his final tour of 2003 for Reality. so i fail to see the relevance of any of that. its only been since his heart attack in 2004 that he hasnt toured. it seems he decided to enjoy a personal life more so than a constant musical one since then.

i meant it in a more broad sense...im sure that his other tours have had their incidents too, maybe age along with all the other dramas and hes had enough.

not that he has anything left to prove anyhow



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Reply #4 posted 01/07/14 9:32pm

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He should just do Las Vegas and have people come to him.

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Reply #5 posted 01/07/14 11:30pm

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NoVideo said:

a tour is a major undertaking. i can understand the appeal of just recording new music without the hassle of touring, especially at Bowie's age. He ain't young anymore.

I did a ranking of his albums in recognition of his birthday:

http://www.metroweekly.co...first.html

I'm sure most will disagree heh. But it's all just opinion. cool

Not a bad list. I wouldn't put "The Next Day" higher up there than "Heathen" though.

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Reply #6 posted 01/08/14 2:46am

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It's different for everybody. Bob Dylan still tours the whole world and he is 72. But then again, his tour small scale compared to the one in the article.
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Reply #7 posted 01/08/14 4:30am

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kewlschool said:

He should just do Las Vegas and have people come to him.

David Bowie is WAAAAAAAYYY above Las Vegas!!!! Please dont put him in the same category as Celine Dion and Donny & Marie or even Prince, for that matter!!!!mad mad

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Reply #8 posted 01/08/14 7:36am

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novabrkr said:

NoVideo said:

a tour is a major undertaking. i can understand the appeal of just recording new music without the hassle of touring, especially at Bowie's age. He ain't young anymore.

I did a ranking of his albums in recognition of his birthday:

http://www.metroweekly.co...first.html

I'm sure most will disagree heh. But it's all just opinion. cool

Not a bad list. I wouldn't put "The Next Day" higher up there than "Heathen" though.

Thanks! I love Heathen a lot but The Next Day just really blew me away.

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Reply #9 posted 01/08/14 7:36am

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kewlschool said:

He should just do Las Vegas and have people come to him.

I've never been to Vegas but for Bowie I would make it happen for sure.

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Reply #10 posted 01/08/14 1:55pm

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Yeah Bowie quit live work because of his health problems; collapsed on stage one night in 2004 & hasn't done any gigs since that trip ended. I'm very glad I got to see him twice that year, the shows were excellent.

I would think he was a good candidate for a one-night pay per view concert. You may see more and more of those as music legends get too sickly to travel extensively.

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Reply #11 posted 01/08/14 4:19pm

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NoVideo said:

a tour is a major undertaking. i can understand the appeal of just recording new music without the hassle of touring, especially at Bowie's age. He ain't young anymore.

I did a ranking of his albums in recognition of his birthday:

http://www.metroweekly.co...first.html

I'm sure most will disagree heh. But it's all just opinion. cool

For him the health think comes into play for sure, it has too, its a bit of that and age, but there are 65 plus year old dudes touring, im not 100% on the length of his last tours, or where they went, world tours are a bit tiring if not planned right, days off, travel days. But heart health is something you need for touring and going on stage to do 50-100 shows a year two hours a night. One of the reasons the band a-ha decided to end was Keyboardist Magne Furuholmen had a heart issue back when they reformed in 1998, they decided that since a-ha was always touring europe and all over that they couldnt do that anymore, so that was a factor in disbanding, it didnt make sense to them to just go into a studio every two to three years put out a record and then not be able to tour, makes no sense.


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Reply #12 posted 01/08/14 7:02pm

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bobzilla77 said:

Yeah Bowie quit live work because of his health problems; collapsed on stage one night in 2004 & hasn't done any gigs since that trip ended. I'm very glad I got to see him twice that year, the shows were excellent.

I would think he was a good candidate for a one-night pay per view concert. You may see more and more of those as music legends get too sickly to travel extensively.

that was an amazing tour. the band was amazing, bowie sounded great, and the sets were long and really outstanding.

the A Reality Tour CD / DVD is awesome. I wish i had seen him on that tour

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Reply #13 posted 01/08/14 11:11pm

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NoVideo, I think your list is very good. Of course, there are always disagreements, but I like it. You dare to put some of his later work ahead of some "classic" 70s material, which is something I'd do too. Usually artists of Bowie's relevance are associated to a particular decade, and people assume their later work is always of lesser quality, and that's often wrong.

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My main disagreement are the places where you rank his 1993 albums, Black Tie, White Noise and Buddha Of Suburbia, which I love and wouldn't doubt to rank among the 15 best. And, well, I'm particularly fond of the "Berlin period", so I'd rank Low and "Heroes" higher...

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But anyway, I think the order in which you've ranked the albums reflects very suitably his music career. biggrin

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Reply #14 posted 01/09/14 10:24am

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Speaking of Bowie does anyone have"Live at the Beeb?" It's an incredible live set. Was the 3rd disc in a 3 disc set I have.

He's in full throat & the band is air tight. Plays classics as well as cuts from Earthling.

Get it if you don't already have it, amazing.

Here's the set list -

Wild Is The Wind

Seven

Absolute Beginners

Survive

Little Wonder

The Man Who Sold The World

Fame

Tonite

Hello Spaceboy

Lets Dance

This Is Not America

Always Crashing The Same Car

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[Edited 1/9/14 10:28am]

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Reply #15 posted 01/09/14 10:32am

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I'm glad I saw him on The Spider Glass Tour. Till this day the best sounding concert I've ever been too in a large venue(MSG in NYC) and I've seen alot. I gotta get the DVD version I keep putting it off.

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Reply #16 posted 01/09/14 10:35am

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Farfunknugin said:

Speaking of Bowie does anyone have"Live at the Beeb?" It's an incredible live set. Was the 3rd disc in a 3 disc set I have.

He's in full throat & the band is air tight. Plays classics as well as cuts from Earthling.

Get it if you don't already have it, amazing.

Here's the set list -

Wild Is The Wind

Seven

Absolute Beginners

Survive

Little Wonder

The Man Who Sold The World

Fame

Tonite

Hello Spaceboy

Lets Dance

This Is Not America

Always Crashing The Same Car

[Edited 1/9/14 10:27am]

[Edited 1/9/14 10:28am]

A couple of songs are also up on YouTube. And yes, AMAZING!

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Reply #17 posted 01/09/14 10:47am

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NoVideo said:

a tour is a major undertaking. i can understand the appeal of just recording new music without the hassle of touring, especially at Bowie's age. He ain't young anymore.

I did a ranking of his albums in recognition of his birthday:

http://www.metroweekly.co...first.html

I'm sure most will disagree heh. But it's all just opinion. cool

Good list! It pains me to see "Hours" so far down the list as that was my introduction to Bowie when I was 15, I think, but given the quality of the albums above that, I'd almost agree. smile

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Reply #18 posted 01/09/14 11:10am

JoeBala

Oh snap! eek It's on youtube. Watching soon. biggrin

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I'm glad I saw him on The Spider Glass Tour.

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Reply #19 posted 01/09/14 2:14pm

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Javi said:

NoVideo, I think your list is very good. Of course, there are always disagreements, but I like it. You dare to put some of his later work ahead of some "classic" 70s material, which is something I'd do too. Usually artists of Bowie's relevance are associated to a particular decade, and people assume their later work is always of lesser quality, and that's often wrong.

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My main disagreement are the places where you rank his 1993 albums, Black Tie, White Noise and Buddha Of Suburbia, which I love and wouldn't doubt to rank among the 15 best. And, well, I'm particularly fond of the "Berlin period", so I'd rank Low and "Heroes" higher...

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But anyway, I think the order in which you've ranked the albums reflects very suitably his music career. biggrin

Thanks much! Yeah I am of the firm belief that older doesn't necessarily mean better. I think Heathen and The Next Day definitely belong in the Top 10. Some people think it's heresy to rank any of the "newer" stuff above any of the 70s classics, but I strongly disagree with that notion.

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Reply #20 posted 01/09/14 2:15pm

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Phishanga said:

NoVideo said:

a tour is a major undertaking. i can understand the appeal of just recording new music without the hassle of touring, especially at Bowie's age. He ain't young anymore.

I did a ranking of his albums in recognition of his birthday:

http://www.metroweekly.co...first.html

I'm sure most will disagree heh. But it's all just opinion. cool

Good list! It pains me to see "Hours" so far down the list as that was my introduction to Bowie when I was 15, I think, but given the quality of the albums above that, I'd almost agree. smile

Thanks much! Yeah I really like Hours... too, it was hard to put it so low, but honestly I think all of his albums are worth picking up, apart maybe from the last 2 or 3. I loooove "Thursday's Child"

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Reply #21 posted 01/09/14 10:31pm

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PurpleSpirit319 said:

kewlschool said:

He should just do Las Vegas and have people come to him.

David Bowie is WAAAAAAAYYY above Las Vegas!!!! Please dont put him in the same category as Celine Dion and Donny & Marie or even Prince, for that matter!!!!mad mad

It's not about being above Vegas, it's about the hardship of touring at an older age. He can just stay in 1 spot and keep his voice and health under control.

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Reply #22 posted 01/10/14 10:20am

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I gotta listen to the new album. I heard it on itunes when they had the free listen. I bought it but never played it. I liked the whole thing.

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Reply #23 posted 01/10/14 12:02pm

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I gotta listen to the new album. I heard it on itunes when they had the free listen. I bought it but never played it. I liked the whole thing.

you should buy the companion ep that goes along with the full cd.

its pretty fucking good.

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Reply #24 posted 01/10/14 12:07pm

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On a side note I saw an internet story that Bowie offered Golden Years to Elvis

who turned it down(obviously).

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Reply #25 posted 01/10/14 12:35pm

novabrkr

That's true.

At some point he was also working on the English version for "My Way" (it's originally a French song). That's, of course, the song Frank Sinatra is most famous for.

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Reply #26 posted 01/11/14 10:44am

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kewlschool said:

PurpleSpirit319 said:

David Bowie is WAAAAAAAYYY above Las Vegas!!!! Please dont put him in the same category as Celine Dion and Donny & Marie or even Prince, for that matter!!!!mad mad

It's not about being above Vegas, it's about the hardship of touring at an older age. He can just stay in 1 spot and keep his voice and health under control.

Why not a residency in NYC... smile

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Reply #27 posted 01/11/14 12:22pm

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novabrkr said:

That's true.

At some point he was also working on the English version for "My Way" (it's originally a French song). That's, of course, the song Frank Sinatra is most famous for.

Did not know that - would love to see Bowie's lyrics.

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Reply #28 posted 01/13/14 10:18am

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thedoorkeeper said:

JoeBala said:

I gotta listen to the new album. I heard it on itunes when they had the free listen. I bought it but never played it. I liked the whole thing.

you should buy the companion ep that goes along with the full cd.

its pretty fucking good.

I got it on Friday and think it's actually stronger melodically then the trax on New Day.

It's on youtube if you want to preview it.

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