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Thread started 12/16/13 2:43pm

Gunsnhalen

Unpopular Music Opinions (Feelings To Be Had)

Let it all out people... tell some unpopular opinions about music. Now, some feelings might be had in this here thread. BUT, as always i have tissues and coco butter.

1. The Beatles don't need anymore awards. My gawd they have gotten awards for nearly everything imaginable

2. Grunge killing hair metal... you old metal geezers need to cry and get over it. It's 2013 and people still talk ''Nirvana and grunge'' killing off hair metal. Yet in 1992 Mr. Bigs had a number 1 hit... and they were a hair metal band. And by 1990 besides Poison, warrant, and Motley Crue. No hair metal bands were really getting airplay anymore...

So, quit blaming grunge on killing hair metal. There was only so far Poison, Danger Danger, Britney Fox, and ratt could have gone anyways.

3. The only reason people hate on Coldplay is because their popular. Because pre-popularity everyone was on their dicks and saying how artsy they were. Way to follow the crowd y'all.

4. Jennifer Lopez & Ashanti sound the same. SERIOUSLY listen to Ain't It Funny! for years i thought that was an Ashanti song... nah J-Lo. They sound the same... which means omfg barf

5. Bob Dylan has never given a fuck.

6. REO Speedwagon is arena rock cancer.

7. Lenny Kravitz gets a lot of crazy hate for ''wearing his influences on his shoulder' Yet Prince, Terrence Trent D'arby, Bruce Springsteen, Elvis, Bob Dylan, George Clinton, Kanye West, Radiohead etc. HAVE ALL DONE THE SAME. If Lenny makes a funk album people will pan it... if Prince does it, it's praised lol

8. Michael Jackson didn't invent dancing, oxygen, the world, politics, Corn Chips, Saga, hair pieces, Rick James, Or Pepsi.

9. Why would you want to rep ''living like an old school punk'' old school punks lived like homeless people, never bathed, were on meth and heroin, and never fucking bathed. Dead Kennedys had good sense to not live like this.

10. NOT EVERY FUCKING ALBUM IS THRILLER. Every-time an album is successful... no matter how big, how much hype, how many hit singles. It's NOT Thriller... please artists, the org, and everyone in between. Stop with making everything the next Thriller.

11. It's almost 2014... we get it MTV doesn't fucking play music videos. This has been known for years. K, Thnx, Bye homie.

12. No matter how much of a ''product'' you like to say other artists are. The truth is, your favorites were products as well. To quote timmy84

''You know folks don't wanna believe the people who were popular ages ago were products but you can't deny that. Marvin Gaye was a product, so was Stevie. If you're a product, you make money. That's as true now as it was then. It's just that sounds have changed and we got computers. Other than that, how much has really changed besides Clear Connel owing almost everything''

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Reply #1 posted 12/16/13 3:11pm

Timmy84

Thanks for the shout out, Guns. lol

I got some unpopular opinions too (least from posting here):

1.) Elvis didn't steal anything. He covered a lot of his favorite music (which was a mixture of everything) and emulated both black and white artists.

2.) The Beatles' early success was manufactured by Brian Epstein. They were the original boy band of their time.

3.) Stop arguing about MTV, VH-1 and BET when you have VH-1 Classics, Centric and Fuse.

4.) Kanye is not suffering from mother withdrawal. He's suffering from egomania cancer.

5.) There was more than one king of rock and roll. Elvis, Chuck Berry and Little Richard just happened to be the first generation kings.

6.) Neither of them created rock and roll or invented it.

7.) Todd Rundgren is up there as one of the greatest musicians of all time. And doesn't get even half the credit he deserves for being that and even more.

8.) Nirvana was the truth. But so were Alice in Chains and Soundgarden.

9.) Lil B is not actually that bad of a rapper (yes I said it!)

10.) Ike Turner, despite of his personal baggage, was a musical mastermind.

11.) ZZ Top, Scarface and DJ Screw made Houston one of the musical capitals of the world (that's not often recognized) even before Beyonce and Destiny's Child.

12.) UGK is one of the greatest rap duos of all time.

13.) Some of Run-D.M.C.'s music was too basic.

14.) Aerosmith was the U.S. answer to Led Zeppelin.

15.) Marvin Gaye was the most diverse Motown artist. Yes, even more than the Supremes and Stevie Wonder.

16.) I don't consider the Jackson 5 part of the "classic era" Motown. That era ended with "I Heard It Through the Grapevine" in 1968.

17.) Captain Beefheart was a genius.

18.) I love Lupe Fiasco's politics as much as I do his music. (Yes I dig him so it's not sarcastic)

19.) Pete Burns is one hell of a singer.

20.) Billy Squier, not James Brown, made hip-hop what it is with "The Big Beat".

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Reply #2 posted 12/16/13 3:22pm

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Uhh... Where do I begin?! nuts
I agree with most of what you guys are saying except when it comes to Lenny Kravitz: contrary to Prince/Dylan/Clinton, he never added something to the music that influenced him. If you hear one Lenny Kravitz album, you've heared them all.
Hey, here's one of mine:
Mothers Finest are one of the best bands ever! True funkrock pioneers! As good as P-funk/Sly/ GCS/Rolling Stones/ Led Zep/Prince...
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Reply #3 posted 12/16/13 3:27pm

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1. Nirvana did not kill hair metal. Nivrvana killed THE WHOLE FREAKING ROCK AND ROLL GENRE. You youngsters need to get off the hippie lettuce, listen to some old stuff, and then go punch out all surviving members of Nirvana, Pearl Jam, Alice in Chains, etc. for begetting the likes of Fall Out Boy and Green Day and every other stupid rock band that thinks crunching E chords for three minutes while singing about how much life sucks is rock and roll. (Was that grouchy enough? I can grouch it up some more if need be.)

End. Of. Freaking. List.

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Reply #4 posted 12/16/13 3:32pm

Timmy84

RodeoSchro said:

1. Nirvana did not kill hair metal. Nivrvana killed THE WHOLE FREAKING ROCK AND ROLL GENRE. You youngsters need to get off the hippie lettuce, listen to some old stuff, and then go punch out all surviving members of Nirvana, Pearl Jam, Alice in Chains, etc. for begetting the likes of Fall Out Boy and Green Day and every other stupid rock band that thinks crunching E chords for three minutes while singing about how much life sucks is rock and roll. (Was that grouchy enough? I can grouch it up some more if need be.)

End. Of. Freaking. List.

Thing is NONE of those guys' music was that similar. AIC was more heavy metal, Soundgarden and Pearl Jam (which I forgot to mention) were closer to classic rock and Nirvana was basically punk rock with some alternative music. Grunge is not even a genre. Plus the labels were always looking to make something a trend, this is what most of the "grunge" acts hated. Their music was quite complex imho. shrug

But I guess this is why ours and Guns' opinion of them may be unpopular according to some of y'all. lol

Plus here's another unpopular opinion:

Hair metal was never a genre. I call Motley Crue heavy metal (with a touch of glam), i.e., "glam metal". Their look was glam but their music was heavy metal. And just like "grunge", hair metal was treated the same way grunge was: "let's go find a band with big hair, makeup and guitars and promote them".

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Reply #5 posted 12/16/13 3:38pm

Gunsnhalen

RodeoSchro said:

1. Nirvana did not kill hair metal. Nivrvana killed THE WHOLE FREAKING ROCK AND ROLL GENRE. You youngsters need to get off the hippie lettuce, listen to some old stuff, and then go punch out all surviving members of Nirvana, Pearl Jam, Alice in Chains, etc. for begetting the likes of Fall Out Boy and Green Day and every other stupid rock band that thinks crunching E chords for three minutes while singing about how much life sucks is rock and roll. (Was that grouchy enough? I can grouch it up some more if need be.)

End. Of. Freaking. List.

Those wild assumptions rodeo. Most people do nothing but listen to old rock bands, ride their dicks 24/7. No one i know is riding on Green Day past 2007. It's all Zeppelin, beatles, zeppelin, the stones, the who.

Either you're living in the early 00's or don't actually know any young people lol go to rateyourmusic.com, amazin, hipsterpalace.com. They all worship the ''old stuff'' as if GOD were writing their guitar chords.

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Reply #6 posted 12/16/13 3:40pm

Timmy84

Gunsnhalen said:

RodeoSchro said:

1. Nirvana did not kill hair metal. Nivrvana killed THE WHOLE FREAKING ROCK AND ROLL GENRE. You youngsters need to get off the hippie lettuce, listen to some old stuff, and then go punch out all surviving members of Nirvana, Pearl Jam, Alice in Chains, etc. for begetting the likes of Fall Out Boy and Green Day and every other stupid rock band that thinks crunching E chords for three minutes while singing about how much life sucks is rock and roll. (Was that grouchy enough? I can grouch it up some more if need be.)

End. Of. Freaking. List.

Those wild assumptions rodeo. Most people do nothing but listen to old rock bands, ride their dicks 24/7. No one i know is riding on Green Day past 2007. It's all Zeppelin, beatles, zeppelin, the stones, the who.

Either you're living in the early 00's or don't actually know any young people lol go to rateyourmusic.com, amazin, hipsterpalace.com. They all worship the ''old stuff'' as if GOD were writing their guitar chords.

I'm on Tumblr a lot these days and yeah most "hipsters" play classic rock and then think they're experts. lol Most folks don't fuck with Green Day anymore. Especially since Billie Joe Armstrong's now infamous outburst while performing at a pop festival. lol

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Reply #7 posted 12/16/13 3:40pm

Gunsnhalen

Timmy84 said:

Thanks for the shout out, Guns. lol

I got some unpopular opinions too (least from posting here):

1.) Elvis didn't steal anything. He covered a lot of his favorite music (which was a mixture of everything) and emulated both black and white artists.

2.) The Beatles' early success was manufactured by Brian Epstein. They were the original boy band of their time.

3.) Stop arguing about MTV, VH-1 and BET when you have VH-1 Classics, Centric and Fuse.

4.) Kanye is not suffering from mother withdrawal. He's suffering from egomania cancer.

5.) There was more than one king of rock and roll. Elvis, Chuck Berry and Little Richard just happened to be the first generation kings.

6.) Neither of them created rock and roll or invented it.

7.) Todd Rundgren is up there as one of the greatest musicians of all time. And doesn't get even half the credit he deserves for being that and even more.

8.) Nirvana was the truth. But so were Alice in Chains and Soundgarden.

9.) Lil B is not actually that bad of a rapper (yes I said it!)

10.) Ike Turner, despite of his personal baggage, was a musical mastermind.

11.) ZZ Top, Scarface and DJ Screw made Houston one of the musical capitals of the world (that's not often recognized) even before Beyonce and Destiny's Child.

12.) UGK is one of the greatest rap duos of all time.

13.) Some of Run-D.M.C.'s music was too basic.

14.) Aerosmith was the U.S. answer to Led Zeppelin.

15.) Marvin Gaye was the most diverse Motown artist. Yes, even more than the Supremes and Stevie Wonder.

16.) I don't consider the Jackson 5 part of the "classic era" Motown. That era ended with "I Heard It Through the Grapevine" in 1968.

17.) Captain Beefheart was a genius.

18.) I love Lupe Fiasco's politics as much as I do his music. (Yes I dig him so it's not sarcastic)

19.) Pete Burns is one hell of a singer.

20.) Billy Squier, not James Brown, made hip-hop what it is with "The Big Beat".

whew... :sweat: that was a lot of truth there lol

Todd is a genius smile and highly underrated. And The Big Beat was samples just last year for Girls On Fire! that song is being sampled like once a year eek

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Reply #8 posted 12/16/13 3:42pm

Gunsnhalen

Timmy84 said:

Gunsnhalen said:

Those wild assumptions rodeo. Most people do nothing but listen to old rock bands, ride their dicks 24/7. No one i know is riding on Green Day past 2007. It's all Zeppelin, beatles, zeppelin, the stones, the who.

Either you're living in the early 00's or don't actually know any young people lol go to rateyourmusic.com, amazin, hipsterpalace.com. They all worship the ''old stuff'' as if GOD were writing their guitar chords.

I'm on Tumblr a lot these days and yeah most "hipsters" play classic rock and then think they're experts. lol Most folks don't fuck with Green Day anymore. Especially since Billie Joe Armstrong's now infamous outburst while performing at a pop festival. lol

I get the hate for nickelback, green day, blink-182, simple plan etc. BACK IN THE DAY.

In 2004 when i was in 8th grade and people either had American Idot or confessions... THAT is when Green was overplayed.

But who plays green day now? nickelback? simple plan? when were they last relevant? overplayed? i mean people act like kids of today still care about them lol

I haven't heard those guys on the radio in years...

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Reply #9 posted 12/16/13 3:46pm

Timmy84

Gunsnhalen said:

Timmy84 said:

I'm on Tumblr a lot these days and yeah most "hipsters" play classic rock and then think they're experts. lol Most folks don't fuck with Green Day anymore. Especially since Billie Joe Armstrong's now infamous outburst while performing at a pop festival. lol

I get the hate for nickelback, green day, blink-182, simple plan etc. BACK IN THE DAY.

In 2004 when i was in 8th grade and people either had American Idot or confessions... THAT is when Green was overplayed.

But who plays green day now? nickelback? simple plan? when were they last relevant? overplayed? i mean people act like kids of today still care about them lol

I haven't heard those guys on the radio in years...

Now see, I remember this era real well because they sounded even more alike than the grunge and hair metal eras because at least in grunge and hair metal everyone was different (you never heard similarities in the voices of Kurt, Chris and Layne nor did you with Vince, Bret and Jon Bon Jovi lol ) but with the '00s, you didn't know how to separate Nickelback from Creed, Sum 41 from Blink-182, Green Day from Simple Plan. I was like "SHUT UP!" lol

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Reply #10 posted 12/16/13 3:52pm

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Madonna is a talentless whore.

The Most Important Thing In Life Is Sincerity....Once You Can Fake That, You Can Fake Anything.
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Reply #11 posted 12/16/13 4:47pm

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Gunsnhalen said:

RodeoSchro said:

1. Nirvana did not kill hair metal. Nivrvana killed THE WHOLE FREAKING ROCK AND ROLL GENRE. You youngsters need to get off the hippie lettuce, listen to some old stuff, and then go punch out all surviving members of Nirvana, Pearl Jam, Alice in Chains, etc. for begetting the likes of Fall Out Boy and Green Day and every other stupid rock band that thinks crunching E chords for three minutes while singing about how much life sucks is rock and roll. (Was that grouchy enough? I can grouch it up some more if need be.)

End. Of. Freaking. List.

Those wild assumptions rodeo. Most people do nothing but listen to old rock bands, ride their dicks 24/7. No one i know is riding on Green Day past 2007. It's all Zeppelin, beatles, zeppelin, the stones, the who.

Either you're living in the early 00's or don't actually know any young people lol go to rateyourmusic.com, amazin, hipsterpalace.com. They all worship the ''old stuff'' as if GOD were writing their guitar chords.


Well, you asked for UNPOPULAR opinions, so I guess Mission Accomplished!

BTW, they didn't call Jimmy Page's double-necked Gibson "The Hammer of the Gods" for nothin'!

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Reply #12 posted 12/16/13 6:27pm

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Timmy84 said:



13.) Some of Run-D.M.C.'s music was too basic.



If by "some", you mean 80% of their music was basic, then I agree. Of all the classic hip hop groups, their music (not lyrics, flow, or rhymes) is probably the worst.
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Reply #13 posted 12/16/13 6:45pm

Timmy84

controversy99 said:

Timmy84 said:



13.) Some of Run-D.M.C.'s music was too basic.

If by "some", you mean 80% of their music was basic, then I agree. Of all the classic hip hop groups, their music (not lyrics, flow, or rhymes) is probably the worst.

I was being nice. lol But the joints I do like from Run-D.M.C., like "Tricky" and "Peter Piper", are still classics. smile Other than that, yeah a lot to be desired musically.

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Timmy84 said:



controversy99 said:


Timmy84 said:



13.) Some of Run-D.M.C.'s music was too basic.



If by "some", you mean 80% of their music was basic, then I agree. Of all the classic hip hop groups, their music (not lyrics, flow, or rhymes) is probably the worst.

I was being nice. lol But the joints I do like from Run-D.M.C., like "Tricky" and "Peter Piper", are still classics. smile Other than that, yeah a lot to be desired musically.


"Tricky" is the jam. Plus it had the classic Penn & Teller video.
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Reply #15 posted 12/16/13 7:51pm

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Madonna is a talentless whore.

falloff

I LOVE this guy!

But yeah, my contribution to "unpopular" opinions.

1) who IS Todd Rundgren. producer, artist, both? because if the latter is included, what's a signature hit? yeah, great artists actually have at least a FEW of those too.

2) from an instrumentation standpoint, what's the difference btwn grunge, alternative, hard rock, and heavy metal? several albums from each era's "heyday" contain all the above or indistinguishable variations. but yeah, corporate cats love to label, create trends that kill the bands they're promoting

3) Beatles are overrated. Period!

4) Bob Dylan is Bugs Bunny with a conscious

5) Kanye is as brilliant as he is megalomaniacal

6) Rihanna is more interesting than BeYAWNce (both mediocre, and exposed, but one has a "great work ethic"

7) Usher is actually a great showman onstage

8) Prince HAS NOT fallen off. He spoiled us with classic albums with cover to cover brilliance, but Lotus, MPLS, 20Ten, Planet Earth, etc ALL have enough brilliant moments to shit on 90% of today's garbage

9) Chuck D needs Jay's wealth and influence. Can we trade. Jigga is clueless

10) Coldplay are U2 wannabes. When I found out Clocks was NOT U2 I was done!

11) Cee Lo is the new Al Green, just on an extended bad E trip that gives his output endless potential and freshness

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Reply #16 posted 12/16/13 9:05pm

DerekH

RodeoSchro said:

1. Nirvana did not kill hair metal. Nivrvana killed THE WHOLE FREAKING ROCK AND ROLL GENRE. You youngsters need to get off the hippie lettuce, listen to some old stuff, and then go punch out all surviving members of Nirvana, Pearl Jam, Alice in Chains, etc. for begetting the likes of Fall Out Boy and Green Day and every other stupid rock band that thinks crunching E chords for three minutes while singing about how much life sucks is rock and roll. (Was that grouchy enough? I can grouch it up some more if need be.)

End. Of. Freaking. List.

Nirvana or any other the other "grunge" (aka Seattle) bands didn't kill rock & roll, and neither did glam metal, punk, disco or any other fill-in-the blank genre of music you may not like that got more popular than what you DO like. If you want to blame someone, it's the record co's who make the decisions on who gets signed and what becomes popular. The Grunge/Seattle sound DIDN'T beget Fall Out Boy and Green Day, but it DID beget Candlebox, Creed, and Nickelback.

There's nothing wrong with 3-minute rock songs in E (or any other key)! That's been around since the 50s era and is still here.

BTW-Nirvana, Pearl Jam, AIC, and Soundgarden have become the "old stuff"! They play them on the same classic rock stations that wouldn't play them in the 90s when they were the new bands!

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Reply #17 posted 12/16/13 9:29pm

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Timmy84 said:



5.) There was more than one king of rock and roll. Elvis, Chuck Berry and Little Richard just happened to be the first generation kings.

I'd put Bo Diddley in there, too! People are still playing his rhythm guitar style and the "Bo Beat" .

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Reply #18 posted 12/16/13 9:55pm

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8. Michael Jackson didn't invent dancing, oxygen, the world, politics, Corn Chips, Saga, hair pieces, Rick James, Or Pepsi.

[Edited 12/16/13 14:52pm]

Michael didn't invent the Moonwalk (but he sure made it popular). It dates back to at least the 1950s.



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Reply #19 posted 12/16/13 9:59pm

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Timmy84 said:

14.) Aerosmith was the U.S. answer to Led Zeppelin.


Aerosmith was the US answer to The Rolling Stones

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Reply #20 posted 12/16/13 10:08pm

Timmy84

DerekH said:

Timmy84 said:

14.) Aerosmith was the U.S. answer to Led Zeppelin.


Aerosmith was the US answer to The Rolling Stones

I always believed they were the answer to Led Zep though just based on Steven's voice. Mick's voice is not as strong so I compared him to Robert Plant. Popular notion is Aerosmith was our Stones though. This is why this is called "unpopular opinions" lol

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Reply #21 posted 12/16/13 10:36pm

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Timmy84 said:

DerekH said:

Aerosmith was the US answer to The Rolling Stones

I always believed they were the answer to Led Zep though just based on Steven's voice. Mick's voice is not as strong so I compared him to Robert Plant. Popular notion is Aerosmith was our Stones though. This is why this is called "unpopular opinions" lol

People had based them as the answer to the Stones based on Steven's (and Joe's) looks! Haha! --along with their rock-with-blues-influences style.

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Reply #22 posted 12/16/13 10:43pm

DerekH

Led Zeppelin "borrowed" a lot of their song ideas from other musicians and didn't credit or pay them, unless they got sued.

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Reply #23 posted 12/16/13 11:03pm

Gunsnhalen

DerekH said:

Led Zeppelin "borrowed" a lot of their song ideas from other musicians and didn't credit or pay them, unless they got sued.

I think these are pretty known now. Even Paige has admited a little too it... but they still haven't paid cash hahaha lol

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Reply #24 posted 12/17/13 4:33am

SoulAlive

The Gold Experience was Prince's last brilliant album.

Many artists are trying to do the retro-disco/funk thing,but Jamiroquai does it best.

Madonna is still the smartest person in pop music.

The Black Eyed Peas need to reunite and make a new album.I miss them.

Robin Thicke's Blurred Lines CD is better than both of the albums that Justin Timberlake released this year.

Mayer Hawthorne needs to return to the 60's retro-R&B sound that he specializes in.When he attempts to sound like today's music,the results aren't as interesting.

D'Angelo should stop playing games with his fans.Either release a new CD,or announce that he's retired from making albums.

R&B artists need to stay awake from all that electropop crap and stick with real R&B sounds.

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Reply #25 posted 12/17/13 5:38am

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Gunsnhalen said:

Let it all out people... tell some unpopular opinions about music. Now, some feelings might be had in this here thread. BUT, as always i have tissues and coco butter.

1. The Beatles don't need anymore awards. My gawd they have gotten awards for nearly everything imaginable

2. Grunge killing hair metal... you old metal geezers need to cry and get over it. It's 2013 and people still talk ''Nirvana and grunge'' killing off hair metal. Yet in 1992 Mr. Bigs had a number 1 hit... and they were a hair metal band. And by 1990 besides Poison, warrant, and Motley Crue. No hair metal bands were really getting airplay anymore...

So, quit blaming grunge on killing hair metal. There was only so far Poison, Danger Danger, Britney Fox, and ratt could have gone anyways.

3. The only reason people hate on Coldplay is because their popular. Because pre-popularity everyone was on their dicks and saying how artsy they were. Way to follow the crowd y'all.

4. Jennifer Lopez & Ashanti sound the same. SERIOUSLY listen to Ain't It Funny! for years i thought that was an Ashanti song... nah J-Lo. They sound the same... which means omfg barf

5. Bob Dylan has never given a fuck.

6. REO Speedwagon is arena rock cancer.

7. Lenny Kravitz gets a lot of crazy hate for ''wearing his influences on his shoulder' Yet Prince, Terrence Trent D'arby, Bruce Springsteen, Elvis, Bob Dylan, George Clinton, Kanye West, Radiohead etc. HAVE ALL DONE THE SAME. If Lenny makes a funk album people will pan it... if Prince does it, it's praised lol

8. Michael Jackson didn't invent dancing, oxygen, the world, politics, Corn Chips, Saga, hair pieces, Rick James, Or Pepsi.

9. Why would you want to rep ''living like an old school punk'' old school punks lived like homeless people, never bathed, were on meth and heroin, and never fucking bathed. Dead Kennedys had good sense to not live like this.

10. NOT EVERY FUCKING ALBUM IS THRILLER. Every-time an album is successful... no matter how big, how much hype, how many hit singles. It's NOT Thriller... please artists, the org, and everyone in between. Stop with making everything the next Thriller.

11. It's almost 2014... we get it MTV doesn't fucking play music videos. This has been known for years. K, Thnx, Bye homie.

12. No matter how much of a ''product'' you like to say other artists are. The truth is, your favorites were products as well. To quote timmy84

''You know folks don't wanna believe the people who were popular ages ago were products but you can't deny that. Marvin Gaye was a product, so was Stevie. If you're a product, you make money. That's as true now as it was then. It's just that sounds have changed and we got computers. Other than that, how much has really changed besides Clear Connel owing almost everything''

[Edited 12/16/13 14:52pm]

God, I'm loving you more and more Guns!!!! This thread is pure genius! nod thumbs up!

I will forever love and miss you...my sweet Prince.
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Reply #26 posted 12/17/13 5:40am

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Timmy84 said:

Thanks for the shout out, Guns. lol

I got some unpopular opinions too (least from posting here):

1.) Elvis didn't steal anything. He covered a lot of his favorite music (which was a mixture of everything) and emulated both black and white artists.

5.) There was more than one king of rock and roll. Elvis, Chuck Berry and Little Richard just happened to be the first generation kings.

6.) Neither of them created rock and roll or invented it.

8.) Nirvana was the truth. But so were Alice in Chains and Soundgarden.

10.) Ike Turner, despite of his personal baggage, was a musical mastermind.

11.) ZZ Top, Scarface and DJ Screw made Houston one of the musical capitals of the world (that's not often recognized) even before Beyonce and Destiny's Child.

13.) Some of Run-D.M.C.'s music was too basic.

15.) Marvin Gaye was the most diverse Motown artist. Yes, even more than the Supremes and Stevie Wonder.

16.) I don't consider the Jackson 5 part of the "classic era" Motown. That era ended with "I Heard It Through the Grapevine" in 1968.

18.) I love Lupe Fiasco's politics as much as I do his music. (Yes I dig him so it's not sarcastic)

19.) Pete Burns is one hell of a singer.

clapping You betta preach Timmy!!!! nod

I will forever love and miss you...my sweet Prince.
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Reply #27 posted 12/17/13 9:38am

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Hmmm, I will have to listen to more Marvin Gaye (not that I don't listen to a lot of his stuff already, but I will need to check out some of the alternate mixes, and more live material), but Stevie was writing rock jams for Jeff Beck (Thelonious) and doing songs like Maybe Your Baby that would inspire Prince and MJ. Stevie performed a 15 minute classical piece for the library of congress, and the first song he wrote for a non-Motown act (This Town) sounded really dark and different.

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Reply #28 posted 12/17/13 10:31am

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Timmy84 said:

Thanks for the shout out, Guns. lol

I got some unpopular opinions too (least from posting here):

1.) Elvis didn't steal anything. He covered a lot of his favorite music (which was a mixture of everything) and emulated both black and white artists.

2.) The Beatles' early success was manufactured by Brian Epstein. They were the original boy band of their time.

3.) Stop arguing about MTV, VH-1 and BET when you have VH-1 Classics, Centric and Fuse.

4.) Kanye is not suffering from mother withdrawal. He's suffering from egomania cancer.

5.) There was more than one king of rock and roll. Elvis, Chuck Berry and Little Richard just happened to be the first generation kings.

6.) Neither of them created rock and roll or invented it.

7.) Todd Rundgren is up there as one of the greatest musicians of all time. And doesn't get even half the credit he deserves for being that and even more.

8.) Nirvana was the truth. But so were Alice in Chains and Soundgarden.

9.) Lil B is not actually that bad of a rapper (yes I said it!)

10.) Ike Turner, despite of his personal baggage, was a musical mastermind.

11.) ZZ Top, Scarface and DJ Screw made Houston one of the musical capitals of the world (that's not often recognized) even before Beyonce and Destiny's Child.

12.) UGK is one of the greatest rap duos of all time.

13.) Some of Run-D.M.C.'s music was too basic.

14.) Aerosmith was the U.S. answer to Led Zeppelin.

15.) Marvin Gaye was the most diverse Motown artist. Yes, even more than the Supremes and Stevie Wonder.

16.) I don't consider the Jackson 5 part of the "classic era" Motown. That era ended with "I Heard It Through the Grapevine" in 1968.

17.) Captain Beefheart was a genius.

18.) I love Lupe Fiasco's politics as much as I do his music. (Yes I dig him so it's not sarcastic)

19.) Pete Burns is one hell of a singer.

20.) Billy Squier, not James Brown, made hip-hop what it is with "The Big Beat".

Agreed. "You Talk Too Much", "It's Like That", "My Adidas", "You Be Illin'", "It's Tricky", "Mary Mary" et. al. It's the reason I hate present day hip hop. It all regressed to the hip hop sound of the early 80's. Monosyllabic, short and boring verses then looping some crappy hook. I refer to the style as nursery rhyming. Pure bullshit!

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Reply #29 posted 12/17/13 8:07pm

V10LETBLUES

Timmy84 said:

Thanks for the shout out, Guns. lol


13.) Some of Run-D.M.C.'s music was too basic.


or just plain suck..

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