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Thread started 05/14/12 4:32pm

Harlepolis

Miss Hazel Scott,,,,,In Technicolor!

One of the clips that I couldn't stop playing these days,,,

I loved the sly smile she broke out right before she shifted her style.

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Reply #1 posted 05/15/12 8:44am

MickyDolenz

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What movie is this from?

You can take a black guy to Nashville from right out of the cotton fields with bib overalls, and they will call him R&B. You can take a white guy in a pin-stripe suit who’s never seen a cotton field, and they will call him country. ~ O. B. McClinton
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Reply #2 posted 05/15/12 8:55am

Graycap23

After watching that I either need 2 practice more or retire.

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Reply #3 posted 05/15/12 9:03am

Harlepolis

MickyDolenz said:

What movie is this from?

I wish I knew sigh

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Reply #4 posted 05/15/12 9:07am

Harlepolis

She caught alot of flack for "jazzing up" those classical compisitions.

Critics described their feelings bluntly about her reportoire, and it was far from being PC.

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Reply #5 posted 05/15/12 2:11pm

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I think this might be it.

You can take a black guy to Nashville from right out of the cotton fields with bib overalls, and they will call him R&B. You can take a white guy in a pin-stripe suit who’s never seen a cotton field, and they will call him country. ~ O. B. McClinton
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Reply #6 posted 05/15/12 2:26pm

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Harlepolis said:

She caught alot of flack for "jazzing up" those classical compisitions.

Critics described their feelings bluntly about her reportoire, and it was far from being PC.

Well maybe if Ms. Scott hadn't been denied the right to be a classical concert piano career maybe she wouldn't have done such a blashphemous act. lol I'm kidding... kinda of.

The one thing I've always admired about Ms. Scott then was her joy, you could hear it in her play. Nimble fingers indeed.

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Reply #7 posted 05/15/12 2:37pm

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I see you, Ms Trina! Do tell about her being denied a classical music career.

"Lack of home training crosses all boundaries."
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Reply #8 posted 05/15/12 5:41pm

TD3

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scriptgirl said:

I see you, Ms Trina! Do tell about her being denied a classical music career.

That was par for the course then - cough cough... i'm not sure much has changed really. The same is true for Nina Simone. Ms. Scott recieved a full scholarship to study classical piano at Juilliard School of Music at the age of 8.... the age of 8. If she hadn't been black and a women a career in classical music would've been a foregone conclusion. So she played classcial music, jazz music and sometimes combined the two genres together and played them where she was allowed to play, the clubs and Cafe' Society. The only people trippin' were the same people who had denied her an opportunity in the first place. Ironic. lol

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Reply #9 posted 05/15/12 5:48pm

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Harlepolis said:

She caught alot of flack for "jazzing up" those classical compisitions.

Critics described their feelings bluntly about her reportoire, and it was far from being PC.

Well maybe if Ms. Scott hadn't been denied the right to be a classical concert piano career maybe she wouldn't have done such a blashphemous act. lol I'm kidding... kinda of.

The one thing I've always admired about Ms. Scott then was her joy, you could hear it in her play. Nimble fingers indeed.

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I thought Nina Simone was the one who got denied that access hmmm Unlike Nina though, Hazel had the privileges that many of her peers didn't enjoy, she was the toast of the town. Everything in her career was going smoothly until the McArthy era fucked it up for so many people, her included.

I remember watching Donald Bogle's Brown Sugar documentary, she was a feisty woman. I don't know if its the West Indian blood, but her candor was something else. I loved what Adam Clayton Powell said about her, "She came from a place where being black is not an exception, its a rule". That explains her unflinching confidence.

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Reply #10 posted 05/15/12 5:58pm

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Harlepolis said:

TD3 said:

Well maybe if Ms. Scott hadn't been denied the right to be a classical concert piano career maybe she wouldn't have done such a blashphemous act. lol I'm kidding... kinda of.

The one thing I've always admired about Ms. Scott then was her joy, you could hear it in her play. Nimble fingers indeed.

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I thought Nina Simone was the one who got denied that access hmmm Unlike Nina though, Hazel had the privileges that many of her peers didn't enjoy, she was the toast of the town. Everything in her career was going smoothly until the McArthy era fucked it up for so many people, her included.

I remember watching Donald Bogle's Brown Sugar documentary, she was a feisty woman. I don't know if its the West Indian blood, but her candor was something else. I loved what Adam Clayton Powell said about her, "She came from a place where being black is not an exception, its a rule". That explains her unflinching confidence.

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Nah, Hazel Scott entered Julliard with the hopes of having a classical music career; when she was denied that opportunity she took advantage of the opportunites that came her way. She explained, her mother had misgivings about the life of a jazz musician, it wasn't easy for Black men, especially on the road. But she made a career where she could and did well unitll the McCarthy Period.

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Reply #11 posted 05/22/12 10:10pm

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Someone school me-what did McCarthy have to do with the end of her career-was Hazel a communist? Also, Hazel wasn't batshit crazy like Nina, and that had to have helped.

"Lack of home training crosses all boundaries."
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Reply #12 posted 05/23/12 4:55am

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scriptgirl said:

Someone school me-what did McCarthy have to do with the end of her career-was Hazel a communist? Also, Hazel wasn't batshit crazy like Nina, and that had to have helped.

Hazel wasn't a communist though if she had been, she was well with in her rights to be one.

McCarthyism in the end became a tool for demagogues to impeach anybodies character who

didn't agree who held a different political point of view. Specifically anyone who held lefist views: artist, pro-union, civil rights, "liberal political ideals, believed in equal distribution of wealth,anit- racial segregation, the list goes on. Ms. Scott had been a vocal and outspoken about the McCarthy hearings and racism in the US and it didn't help she was then married to Adam Clayton Powell Jr.

In terms of Scott suffering from mental illness --ultimately being "whiteballed" and her inbility to make a living to maintain herself and her child led to a mental breakdown and a couple of suicide attempts.

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Reply #13 posted 05/23/12 5:11am

scriptgirl

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WOW! Thanks for the lesson, Ms Trina!

"Lack of home training crosses all boundaries."
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Reply #14 posted 05/23/12 8:58am

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scriptgirl said:

Someone school me-what did McCarthy have to do with the end of her career-was Hazel a communist? Also, Hazel wasn't batshit crazy like Nina, and that had to have helped.

Lots of Black people were harassed in that era w/ the whole Commie thing being the pretext. Think Paul Robeson, WEB Du Bois, Lena Horne, etc...Hazel was just one of many. Add to it, she was married to ACP...

If you were the least bit outspoken and/or considered "political", you could find it very hard to get work.

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Reply #15 posted 05/23/12 2:05pm

Harlepolis

She was blacklisted out of spite against her husband.

Beside, anybody who ever performed or even attended as an audience memeber in Cafe Society was scrutinized during the McCarthy era. That place was a haven for communist meetings.

Lena Horne, Josh White and Hazel Scott and the rest of those CS performers were blacklisted. Billie Holiday was blacklisted as well, but given that her cabaret card was revoked due to her drug arrest, being blacklisted didn't hurt her more than she already was.

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Reply #16 posted 05/23/12 3:54pm

scriptgirl

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I would have loved to attended a cafe society type performance

"Lack of home training crosses all boundaries."
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Reply #17 posted 05/23/12 5:00pm

TD3

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If you ever get a chance check out the profile Adam Clayton Powell on "The American Experience" the speak Powell's and Scott's relationship. Oh, PBS of course.

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Reply #18 posted 05/23/12 6:11pm

scriptgirl

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thank you, ms trina!

"Lack of home training crosses all boundaries."
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Reply #19 posted 05/23/12 6:21pm

JoeBala

Thanks never had heard of her. Damn only 3 CD's available from all the LP's she's done. What a shame.

Just Music-No Categories-Enjoy It!
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Reply #20 posted 05/24/12 8:59am

Harlepolis

JoeBala said:

Thanks never had heard of her. Damn only 3 CD's available from all the LP's she's done. What a shame.

Her discography is quite long though, and she played behind many musicians(namely, Charlie Parker). If you can find her "sides" on LPs, be ready to part with your cash if you're willing to because they cost an arm and a leg.

Needless to say, I do wish that all of her discography gets remastered into CD nod

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