walks through a cloud for a brief return

Bad 25 is still in progress. The Estate and Sony are working on it and the release is said to be slated for September (although just like Thriller 25, it could be postponed)

The partnership with Pepsi is part of the promotion with the Bad 25 logo being displayed on the cans

The details on the actual tracklisting.....we probably won't get those for awhile as they're still working on it

Spike Lee is doing a documentary to coincide with the release and so far, it includes Steve Stevens, Siedah Garrett, Glen Ballard, and most likely Quincy and others

Bad Tour....I wouldn't be surprised if it was included on the release or seperately.

bboy87 said:

walks through a cloud for a brief return

Bad 25 is still in progress. The Estate and Sony are working on it and the release is said to be slated for September (although just like Thriller 25, it could be postponed)

The partnership with Pepsi is part of the promotion with the Bad 25 logo being displayed on the cans

The details on the actual tracklisting.....we probably won't get those for awhile as they're still working on it

Spike Lee is doing a documentary to coincide with the release and so far, it includes Steve Stevens, Siedah Garrett, Glen Ballard, and most likely Quincy and others

Bad Tour....I wouldn't be surprised if it was included on the release or seperately.

Sounds like you expect it might not see a release , and im doubting too

ViintageJunkiie said:

Derek1984 said:

I've heard that rumor as well, about BAD being a double or triple album. But I really question whether that much material was actually near completion. It's been stated that Streetwzalker just missed the cut and we already have that. Plus Fly Away, Cheater, etc. Part of me thinks that we already have most of what was nearly finished. Anything else is probably rough demos. Hope I am wrong about that though..

Michael wrote close to 100 songs for the BAD album but I'm sure only a handful of them (excluding the ones released) were actually recorded. Bruce Swedien mentioned that there were very little, if not, NO outtakes from BAD. Quincy said that songs were cut during pre-production of the BAD session...

A lot of the unreleased song titles we know from BAD might be just that...song titles. I'm sure Michael had a handful of records recorded during the BAD session that he might not have presented for inclusion on the album.

[Edited 5/3/12 22:22pm]

Yeah, but there HAS to be some unreleased stuff. Buffalo Bill was definitely recorded. I would think the Estate has this. There is at least a demo to Groove of Midnight. I would think the same for Tomboy and What You Do To Me. And then, Hot Fever and Pyramid Girl. Maybe there isn't much that was recorded but the Estate must have some stuff they can put out on this album besides just remixes.

Derek1984 said:

ViintageJunkiie said:

Michael wrote close to 100 songs for the BAD album but I'm sure only a handful of them (excluding the ones released) were actually recorded. Bruce Swedien mentioned that there were very little, if not, NO outtakes from BAD. Quincy said that songs were cut during pre-production of the BAD session...

A lot of the unreleased song titles we know from BAD might be just that...song titles. I'm sure Michael had a handful of records recorded during the BAD session that he might not have presented for inclusion on the album.

[Edited 5/3/12 22:22pm]

Yeah, but there HAS to be some unreleased stuff. Buffalo Bill was definitely recorded. I would think the Estate has this. There is at least a demo to Groove of Midnight. I would think the same for Tomboy and What You Do To Me. And then, Hot Fever and Pyramid Girl. Maybe there isn't much that was recorded but the Estate must have some stuff they can put out on this album besides just remixes.

Buffalo Bill was recorded in 1983 and I'm sure that exists in full. Groove of Midnight could have a full version that exists, but it's likely that he only did background vocals on the record for Siedah. Tomboy and What You Do to Me might not have been presented for inclusion on BAD, but demo versions might exist. Hot Fever is just the working title for The Way You Make Me Feel, just like Pee was the working title for Bad. Pyramid Girl was recorded in 1983 also, even though Michael called it Liberian Girl during his 1983 interview.

Long story short, Michael has records laying around, but if they're not complete, either don't expect a release or expect some top shelf Producer and Jason Malachi to 'finish' it

bboy87 said:

walks through a cloud for a brief return

Bad 25 is still in progress. The Estate and Sony are working on it and the release is said to be slated for September (although just like Thriller 25, it could be postponed)

The partnership with Pepsi is part of the promotion with the Bad 25 logo being displayed on the cans

The details on the actual tracklisting.....we probably won't get those for awhile as they're still working on it

Spike Lee is doing a documentary to coincide with the release and so far, it includes Steve Stevens, Siedah Garrett, Glen Ballard, and most likely Quincy and others

Bad Tour....I wouldn't be surprised if it was included on the release or seperately.

You'd think that these anniversary editions would be released either on the Anniversary date of their release, or on the death anniversary (still wierd to say that).

Sadly any buzz generated by the limited edition Pepsi cans that were slated for a memorial weekend release might be lost by the time the eventual release takes place, unless they hold back the Pepsi launch.

ViintageJunkiie said:

Derek1984 said:

Yeah, but there HAS to be some unreleased stuff. Buffalo Bill was definitely recorded. I would think the Estate has this. There is at least a demo to Groove of Midnight. I would think the same for Tomboy and What You Do To Me. And then, Hot Fever and Pyramid Girl. Maybe there isn't much that was recorded but the Estate must have some stuff they can put out on this album besides just remixes.

Buffalo Bill was recorded in 1983 and I'm sure that exists in full. Groove of Midnight could have a full version that exists, but it's likely that he only did background vocals on the record for Siedah. Tomboy and What You Do to Me might not have been presented for inclusion on BAD, but demo versions might exist. Hot Fever is just the working title for The Way You Make Me Feel, just like Pee was the working title for Bad. Pyramid Girl was recorded in 1983 also, even though Michael called it Liberian Girl during his 1983 interview.

Long story short, Michael has records laying around, but if they're not complete, either don't expect a release or expect some top shelf Producer and Jason Malachi to 'finish' it

I wonder why Buffalo Bill has never been released yet. I guess the same can be said about Men In Black. Why weren't they on TUC? Was that Michael's decision?

Unfortunately, the more years that go by, the more I think there is less material left than I thought there would be. I wish the Estate would be more open about this subject and at least give us some titles of what they do have.

Derek1984 said:

ViintageJunkiie said:

Buffalo Bill was recorded in 1983 and I'm sure that exists in full. Groove of Midnight could have a full version that exists, but it's likely that he only did background vocals on the record for Siedah. Tomboy and What You Do to Me might not have been presented for inclusion on BAD, but demo versions might exist. Hot Fever is just the working title for The Way You Make Me Feel, just like Pee was the working title for Bad. Pyramid Girl was recorded in 1983 also, even though Michael called it Liberian Girl during his 1983 interview.

Long story short, Michael has records laying around, but if they're not complete, either don't expect a release or expect some top shelf Producer and Jason Malachi to 'finish' it

I wonder why Buffalo Bill has never been released yet. I guess the same can be said about Men In Black. Why weren't they on TUC? Was that Michael's decision?

Unfortunately, the more years that go by, the more I think there is less material left than I thought there would be. I wish the Estate would be more open about this subject and at least give us some titles of what they do have.

Buffalo Bill was recorded 3 times I believe (for Victory, Bad & Invincible). Michael and Frank both spoke highly of the record. The hook for the song is "Who shot Buffalo Bill? They said he shot a lot, did he ever get killed?". Man in Black might not have been completed. A few people who heard the record back when it was created mentioned they never heard the vocals but just the booming music from it.

I think one of the reasons why we're not getting any song titles is because they don't want to give the impression that the song is going to be released

[Edited 5/4/12 10:08am]

bboy87 said:

walks through a cloud for a brief return

Bad 25 is still in progress. The Estate and Sony are working on it and the release is said to be slated for September (although just like Thriller 25, it could be postponed)

The partnership with Pepsi is part of the promotion with the Bad 25 logo being displayed on the cans

The details on the actual tracklisting.....we probably won't get those for awhile as they're still working on it

Spike Lee is doing a documentary to coincide with the release and so far, it includes Steve Stevens, Siedah Garrett, Glen Ballard, and most likely Quincy and others

Bad Tour....I wouldn't be surprised if it was included on the release or seperately.

Thanks for the updates as always man.

Swa said:

bboy87 said:

walks through a cloud for a brief return

Bad 25 is still in progress. The Estate and Sony are working on it and the release is said to be slated for September (although just like Thriller 25, it could be postponed)

The partnership with Pepsi is part of the promotion with the Bad 25 logo being displayed on the cans

The details on the actual tracklisting.....we probably won't get those for awhile as they're still working on it

Spike Lee is doing a documentary to coincide with the release and so far, it includes Steve Stevens, Siedah Garrett, Glen Ballard, and most likely Quincy and others

Bad Tour....I wouldn't be surprised if it was included on the release or seperately.

You'd think that these anniversary editions would be released either on the Anniversary date of their release, or on the death anniversary (still wierd to say that).

Sadly any buzz generated by the limited edition Pepsi cans that were slated for a memorial weekend release might be lost by the time the eventual release takes place, unless they hold back the Pepsi launch.

When the T25 thing was postponed in 2007, I almost thought "hmm must be a situation with Michael AND Sony..." but I see Sony is having its own problems with reissues. They were like that with George's Faith re-release but difference with that was George's own personal problems got in the way. I don't know if they had wanted George to promote the re-release or what?

[Edited 5/4/12 10:32am]

ViintageJunkiie said:

Derek1984 said:

Yeah, but there HAS to be some unreleased stuff. Buffalo Bill was definitely recorded. I would think the Estate has this. There is at least a demo to Groove of Midnight. I would think the same for Tomboy and What You Do To Me. And then, Hot Fever and Pyramid Girl. Maybe there isn't much that was recorded but the Estate must have some stuff they can put out on this album besides just remixes.

Buffalo Bill was recorded in 1983 and I'm sure that exists in full. Groove of Midnight could have a full version that exists, but it's likely that he only did background vocals on the record for Siedah. Tomboy and What You Do to Me might not have been presented for inclusion on BAD, but demo versions might exist. Hot Fever is just the working title for The Way You Make Me Feel, just like Pee was the working title for Bad. Pyramid Girl was recorded in 1983 also, even though Michael called it Liberian Girl during his 1983 interview.

Long story short, Michael has records laying around, but if they're not complete, either don't expect a release or expect some top shelf Producer and Jason Malachi to 'finish' it

Nope, Hot Fever was the original version of The Way You Make Feel in '85. It did become the working title/subtitle as time went on though. The Hot Fever demo from 1985 is circulating and was close to leaking last year. It's a bit over 3 and a half minutes

Another Part Of Me (Original Version)
Chicago 1945 (1985) (Michael Jackson, Steve Pocaro)
Make Or Break (1985) (Michael Jackson, John Barnes)
Eaten Alive (1985) (Barry Gibb, Michael Jackson) (Demo with Michael on lead vocals)
Hot Fever (1985) (Michael Jackson)
Michael Mckeller (1985-6) (Michael Jackson)
Bumper Snippet (1986) (Michael Jackson, Bill Botrell)
Crack Kills (1986) (Michael Jackson) (even though Run DMC didn't work on the song, I think a demo exists)
Don't Be Messin' Around (1986-90) (Michael Jackson)
Streetwalker (1986) (Michael Jackson, Bill Botrell)
Cheater (1987) (Michael Jackson , Greg Phillinganes)
Fly Away (1987) (Michael Jackson)
Groove Of Midnight (1987) (Michael Jackson)
Make A Wish (1987) (Michael Jackson)

Saturday Woman

What You Do To Me

Tomboy (some fans have this)

bboy87 said:

ViintageJunkiie said:

Buffalo Bill was recorded in 1983 and I'm sure that exists in full. Groove of Midnight could have a full version that exists, but it's likely that he only did background vocals on the record for Siedah. Tomboy and What You Do to Me might not have been presented for inclusion on BAD, but demo versions might exist. Hot Fever is just the working title for The Way You Make Me Feel, just like Pee was the working title for Bad. Pyramid Girl was recorded in 1983 also, even though Michael called it Liberian Girl during his 1983 interview.

Long story short, Michael has records laying around, but if they're not complete, either don't expect a release or expect some top shelf Producer and Jason Malachi to 'finish' it

Nope, Hot Fever was the original version of The Way You Make Feel in '85. It did become the working title/subtitle as time went on though. The Hot Fever demo from 1985 is circulating and was close to leaking last year. It's a bit over 3 and a half minutes

Another Part Of Me (Original Version)
Chicago 1945 (1985) (Michael Jackson, Steve Pocaro)
Make Or Break (1985) (Michael Jackson, John Barnes)
Eaten Alive (1985) (Barry Gibb, Michael Jackson) (Demo with Michael on lead vocals)
Hot Fever (1985) (Michael Jackson)
Michael Mckeller (1985-6) (Michael Jackson)
Bumper Snippet (1986) (Michael Jackson, Bill Botrell)
Crack Kills (1986) (Michael Jackson) (even though Run DMC didn't work on the song, I think a demo exists)
Don't Be Messin' Around (1986-90) (Michael Jackson)
Streetwalker (1986) (Michael Jackson, Bill Botrell)
Cheater (1987) (Michael Jackson , Greg Phillinganes)
Fly Away (1987) (Michael Jackson)
Groove Of Midnight (1987) (Michael Jackson)
Make A Wish (1987) (Michael Jackson)

Saturday Woman

What You Do To Me

Tomboy (some fans have this)

The dates on these songs always confuse me.

I could've sworn Michael McKellar was 1992-93 era and Don't Be Messing Around was 1982. Also, didn't Rob mention that Streetwalker was recorded AFTER Bad, in 1988? That's when he [Rob] said he didn't understand how Streetwalker and APOM were competng for a spot on BAD when SW wasn't even recorded yet.

ViintageJunkiie said:

bboy87 said:

Nope, Hot Fever was the original version of The Way You Make Feel in '85. It did become the working title/subtitle as time went on though. The Hot Fever demo from 1985 is circulating and was close to leaking last year. It's a bit over 3 and a half minutes

Another Part Of Me (Original Version)
Chicago 1945 (1985) (Michael Jackson, Steve Pocaro)
Make Or Break (1985) (Michael Jackson, John Barnes)
Eaten Alive (1985) (Barry Gibb, Michael Jackson) (Demo with Michael on lead vocals)
Hot Fever (1985) (Michael Jackson)
Michael Mckeller (1985-6) (Michael Jackson)
Bumper Snippet (1986) (Michael Jackson, Bill Botrell)
Crack Kills (1986) (Michael Jackson) (even though Run DMC didn't work on the song, I think a demo exists)
Don't Be Messin' Around (1986-90) (Michael Jackson)
Streetwalker (1986) (Michael Jackson, Bill Botrell)
Cheater (1987) (Michael Jackson , Greg Phillinganes)
Fly Away (1987) (Michael Jackson)
Groove Of Midnight (1987) (Michael Jackson)
Make A Wish (1987) (Michael Jackson)

Saturday Woman

What You Do To Me

Tomboy (some fans have this)

The dates on these songs always confuse me.

I could've sworn Michael McKellar was 1992-93 era and Don't Be Messing Around was 1982. Also, didn't Rob mention that Streetwalker was recorded AFTER Bad, in 1988? That's when he [Rob] said he didn't understand how Streetwalker and APOM were competng for a spot on BAD when SW wasn't even recorded yet.

I think Rob later realized in that thread that he was incorrect and Streetwalker was indeed recorded before BAD was released.

dreamfactory313 said:

I'm all for this promo thing..anything that honors Michael is cool in my book. (He deserves it.) That being said, why can't the Estate give us something like this instead of some Pepsi marketing BS?

Bad deserves this. Hell, all of MJ's albums deserve this treatment. Come on MJ Estate/Sony!!!

as far as the whole "unfinished songs" thing goes.. i think you people are forgeting what an "unfinished song" is to michael jackson... Best of Joy is an "unfinished song" 80% of what we havent heard are "unfinished songs" but i garuntee they are COMPLETE for the most part.. and yes.. they have enough Bad Album outtakes to make a whole nother album! but i doubt they will.. they will probably only put 2 or 3 outtakes in just like they did with thriller 25..

as far as a dvd goes.. i think Wembley 88, Los Angeles 89, Tokyo 87.. why not release i dvd for each leg? its more money in sonys pocket which is all they want anyways... i swear they have nothing but dumb ass people handling michael jacksons sony record deal... Michael has enough unrealesed songs to make another 25 albums.. they have 80 hours of rehearsal footage.. they have These spectacular shows they could release on dvd.. and other things as well.. but yet we (the fans) in all reality haveny gotten much..

uggg....

Seeing the dates on that can is so depressing....

dm3857 said:

as far as the whole "unfinished songs" thing goes.. i think you people are forgeting what an "unfinished song" is to michael jackson... Best of Joy is an "unfinished song" 80% of what we havent heard are "unfinished songs" but i garuntee they are COMPLETE for the most part.. and yes.. they have enough Bad Album outtakes to make a whole nother album! but i doubt they will.. they will probably only put 2 or 3 outtakes in just like they did with thriller 25..

as far as a dvd goes.. i think Wembley 88, Los Angeles 89, Tokyo 87.. why not release i dvd for each leg? its more money in sonys pocket which is all they want anyways... i swear they have nothing but dumb ass people handling michael jacksons sony record deal... Michael has enough unrealesed songs to make another 25 albums.. they have 80 hours of rehearsal footage.. they have These spectacular shows they could release on dvd.. and other things as well.. but yet we (the fans) in all reality haveny gotten much..

uggg....

Well Best of Joy was recorded in 1990 for Dangerous but was cut from the list. It was on the list of song titles MJ wrote on a piece of paper around that time, so I would assume the song was near completion.

Maybe they should do a DVD with selected clips from each show to create one performance

mjforever said:

I love this. I wish Mike did a jazzy album, cause he sounds so beautiful and sexy in here.

No one knows what is in the vaults , the number of songs and outtakes recorded for each album is still a mystery to all fans , No one knows !!!!

dag said:

mjforever said:

I love this. I wish Mike did a jazzy album, cause he sounds so beautiful and sexy in here.

Aaah, Mike gettin' his Frank Sinatra on.

And girl I feel ya. I would've liked to see Michael sing some Irving Berlin or Cole Porter...would've been so smooth with his voice

Statement from Michael Jackson's Estate

'We are thrilled to bring Michael and Pepsi back together, as they were in 1988,
to celebrate the 25th anniversary of the BAD album and Tour and to put Michael
on one billion Pepsi cans – perhaps a Guinness record,"

"We're excited to see it all come to life."


co-executors of the Estate of Michael Jackson
John Branca and John McClain



Thank You Note To Fans

We want to thank fans for all their positive feedback on this morning’s announcement about the Pepsi deal. Michael did three successive deals with Pepsi, on the Victory Tour, the Bad Tour and the Dangerous Tour, so this extends a long and very successful relationship with the brand. Michael would have loved that we are making the record books with his image on a billion cans around the world. And the campaign will be a great kickoff to the celebration of the 25th Anniversary of BAD."

The Michael Jackson Estate

claudiax said:

According to Zeola "Zee" Gaye, Marvin's baby sister, on the night Michael did "Billie Jean" for Motown 25, Marvin tried to get Berry Gordy to get him to do HIS big post-Motown hit "Sexual Healing" - he was rebuffed. But Marvin settled for a compromise with Berry to begin his performance with a recital of black music history, which became quite a riveting TV moment itself and which carried on into a great performance of "What's Going On". That May 16th performance (though it aired on March 25th) and his May 8th appearance on Soul Train were his very last TV performances prior to his death in 1984. Marvin had used Michael (and Prince, Rick James, etc.) as inspiration behind the making of Midnight Love and I knew if he had stayed alive since he and Michael were both on CBS, he would've been competitive to get his spot regardless. Michael later recalled that Marvin was one of the artists at Motown 25 to congratulate him on his performance.

motownlover said:

bboy87 said:

walks through a cloud for a brief return

Bad 25 is still in progress. The Estate and Sony are working on it and the release is said to be slated for September (although just like Thriller 25, it could be postponed)

The partnership with Pepsi is part of the promotion with the Bad 25 logo being displayed on the cans

The details on the actual tracklisting.....we probably won't get those for awhile as they're still working on it

Spike Lee is doing a documentary to coincide with the release and so far, it includes Steve Stevens, Siedah Garrett, Glen Ballard, and most likely Quincy and others

Bad Tour....I wouldn't be surprised if it was included on the release or seperately.

Sounds like you expect it might not see a release , and im doubting too

Did my post give that impression? I know there's going to be a release. Branca stated that it was coming a number of times since the news of the 2010 Sony deal and with the Bad 25 logo, the Spike Lee documentary, Pepsi deal, and other merchandise. I expect a reissue of the album by the end of the year, especially since promo starts this month

claudiax said:

Nice Pic!

bboy87 said:

motownlover said:

Sounds like you expect it might not see a release , and im doubting too

Did my post give that impression? I know there's going to be a release. Branca stated that it was coming a number of times since the news of the 2010 Sony deal and with the Bad 25 logo, the Spike Lee documentary, Pepsi deal, and other merchandise. I expect a reissue of the album by the end of the year, especially since promo starts this month

Sorry for my unclear post , it came aross like you had doubts of the bad tour dvd. cause even if its been said numerously , i still have doubts about it. Its also the only thing im looking forward too , bad 25 + propper 2nd leg tour on dvd

I Just Can't Stop Loving You is being re-released

http://mjdatabank.com/mjj...de-amazon/

USA: Vinyl *
FRANCE: Vinyl Maxi Single *
UK: Vinyl Maxi Single (Import) *
GERMANY: Vinyl Maxi Single * Single CD (June 4, 2012)
JAPAN: CD Maxi Single (June 2012)

the vinyl maxi single is being released on.....June 26th