thebanishedone said:

Timmy84 said:

As for bringing Prince into this, look, Prince is one of the greatest guitar players of all time but this isn't about him.

it wasn't me bringing prince but o can say prince would never play something as disstasteful as slash did on le freak live at budokan

I GET that this is a Prince board but c'mon your not giving Slash any credit at all. He deserves his accolades just as much as Prince does in the guitar department. If you prefer Prince thats fine but dont sit here imply Slash is a mediocre guitar player when he is far from it.

I dont think anyone came in here and said Slash was the greatest ever.

Gunsnhalen said:

HUGE Slash fan While i don't think he is anywhere near the greatest, he is amazing. And the respect and love he has gotten he earned for sure! i see his pics over every guitar center i have ever been to...

Any who my favorite Slash performances

Ha, I was at that show that is featured in the clip. Olympiastadium in Munich, Germany... June 26th 1993. Me in the front row and Brian May was a special guest. That was a great day. Yeah, I'm a huge Slash fan too.

6 years later, when he performed at the same place with Michael at the MJ & Friends concert he came outside to smoke a cigarette. I stood like 10 m next to him and didn't dare to ask for a picture. Foolish.

duccichucka said:

Gunsnhalen said:

And hey i think EVH is better then Slash & a lot of others to & i like Prince...

But let's not make this about OTHER plays this is a Slash appreciation thread, and he deserves it

Omigod, there's no way in the world that Slash is a better player than Van Halen -

to suggest otherwise betrays a serious psychological disorder.

Anyways, I saw Slash walking out of that chapel in the middle of the desert in that

music video (y'know the one) and that was it: I had to get a guitar.

dude can you read? not to be rude but damn i state right there that EVH is better then Slash...... i mean like i say it right there damn

PatrickS77 said:

Gunsnhalen said:

HUGE Slash fan While i don't think he is anywhere near the greatest, he is amazing. And the respect and love he has gotten he earned for sure! i see his pics over every guitar center i have ever been to...

Any who my favorite Slash performances

Ha, I was at that show that is featured in the clip. Olympiastadium in Munich, Germany... June 26th 1993. Me in the front row and Brian May was a special guest. That was a great day. Yeah, I'm a huge Slash fan too.

6 years later, when he performed at the same place with Michael at the MJ & Friends concert he came outside to smoke a cigarette. I stood like 10 m next to him and didn't dare to ask for a picture. Foolish.

FYI I Hate you/ hey i made a slash there hehe very jealous lol

DAMN! Appettite tour i am sure was amazing! but i would have killed to see the UYI tour your a lucky dude!

mjscarousal said:

thebanishedone said:

Timmy84 said: it wasn't me bringing prince but o can say prince would never play something as disstasteful as slash did on le freak live at budokan

I GET that this is a Prince board but c'mon your not giving Slash any credit at all. He deserves his accolades just as much as Prince does in the guitar department. If you prefer Prince thats fine but dont sit here imply Slash is a mediocre guitar player when he is far from it.

I dont think anyone came in here and said Slash was the greatest ever.

EXACTLY!!!!

People know Slash is great, but no one said he is better then Prince or Chuck Berry or Eddie Van Halen or Vernon Reid..

I think someone is not reading thing's right

Gunsnhalen said:

duccichucka said:

Omigod, there's no way in the world that Slash is a better player than Van Halen -

to suggest otherwise betrays a serious psychological disorder.

Anyways, I saw Slash walking out of that chapel in the middle of the desert in that

music video (y'know the one) and that was it: I had to get a guitar.

dude can you read? not to be rude but damn i state right there that EVH is better then Slash...... i mean like i say it right there damn

Dude, can you read?

I never said that you did say that Slash was a better guitarist than Eddie Van Halen. I

said that if anyone says this, they are mistaken. I was supporting your opinion, by re-

iterating it you ding dong.

I can see how if one read my post cursorily, they would get the implication that I was

disagreeing with them but I was not.

Cool those jets.

duccichucka said:

Gunsnhalen said:

dude can you read? not to be rude but damn i state right there that EVH is better then Slash...... i mean like i say it right there damn

Dude, can you read?

I never said that you did say that Slash was a better guitarist than Eddie Van Halen. I

said that if anyone says this, they are mistaken. I was supporting your opinion, by re-

iterating it you ding dong.

I can see how if one read my post cursorily, they would get the implication that I was

disagreeing with them but I was not.

Cool those jets.

My bad, i probably just read that wrong.

http://www.youtube.com/wa...vr2Ni09PIg

Gunsnhalen said:

duccichucka said:

Dude, can you read?

I never said that you did say that Slash was a better guitarist than Eddie Van Halen. I

said that if anyone says this, they are mistaken. I was supporting your opinion, by re-

iterating it you ding dong.

I can see how if one read my post cursorily, they would get the implication that I was

disagreeing with them but I was not.

Cool those jets.

My bad, i probably just read that wrong.

No problemo!

Nice to see Slash getting some love around here.

Slash is one of my favorite guitarists of all time. I have seen him in GNR 3 times(first time opening for Aerosmith in 1988), 3 times with VR, and once solo. He never fails to impress me with his amazing solos.

thebanishedone said:

alphastreet said:

I don't think he's the greatest guitarist in the world, I've seen way better, like our favourite midget, but he is good. And the reason I thought of En Vogue is cause I was too lazy to check who it really was and I know Slash was popular around that time.

yeah,our little midget would own slash on guitar.slash have some very nice solos like november rain,sweet child of mine.he ain't much of a rhythm player which is weird because he's black.it was axl who brought inovation to that band,not slash.

Let's not stereotype here okay? And Slash is actually a pretty good rhythm player, don't diminish his skills just because he doesn't play funk. Anywayyy..my favorite song off Appetite

Gunsnhalen said:

PatrickS77 said:

Ha, I was at that show that is featured in the clip. Olympiastadium in Munich, Germany... June 26th 1993. Me in the front row and Brian May was a special guest. That was a great day. Yeah, I'm a huge Slash fan too.

6 years later, when he performed at the same place with Michael at the MJ & Friends concert he came outside to smoke a cigarette. I stood like 10 m next to him and didn't dare to ask for a picture. Foolish.

FYI I Hate you/ hey i made a slash there hehe very jealous lol

DAMN! Appettite tour i am sure was amazing! but i would have killed to see the UYI tour your a lucky dude!

Yeah! I guess! I saw them in '92 and '93. Was hard work both times to get parental permission. In '92 in general and in '93 I had to fight against the old "But you already saw them." argument. Saw Slash's Snakepit in '95, Slash as a guest with Michael in '99 and '01, Velvet Revolver in '04 and Slash solo in '10 and '11. Looking forward to his tour this year.

MajesticOne89 said:

thebanishedone said:

alphastreet said: yeah,our little midget would own slash on guitar.slash have some very nice solos like november rain,sweet child of mine.he ain't much of a rhythm player which is weird because he's black.it was axl who brought inovation to that band,not slash.

Let's not stereotype here okay? And Slash is actually a pretty good rhythm player, don't diminish his skills just because he doesn't play funk. Anywayyy..my favorite song off Appetite

Exactly the point I was trying to make.

PatrickS77 said:

Gunsnhalen said:

FYI I Hate you/ hey i made a slash there hehe very jealous lol

DAMN! Appettite tour i am sure was amazing! but i would have killed to see the UYI tour your a lucky dude!

Yeah! I guess! I saw them in '92 and '93. Was hard work both times to get parental permission. In '92 in general and in '93 I had to fight against the old "But you already saw them." argument. Saw Slash's Snakepit in '95, Slash as a guest with Michael in '99 and '01, Velvet Revolver in '04 and Slash solo in '10 and '11. Looking forward to his tour this year.

I was in the same area as him for the day when he was doing an interview to promote his book a few years ago and I wanted to hang out near the area where fans were waiting just to get a glimpse at him, but didn't do it in the end.

thebanishedone said:

Black guitar players always played better rhythm guitar then white players,that is not the stereotip ,that is a well know fact

I See racism is alive & well on the org.

And i think you meant sterotype

i dunno slash takes up space in time quite nicely. imo he's a unique looking man and strikes

some mean pose+ on stage along with his guitar talent(s).

i first paid him attention on the 1992 MJ, 'black or white ' track.

[Edited 1/25/12 17:32pm]

Where's BK at?

Gunsnhalen said:

thebanishedone said:

Black guitar players always played better rhythm guitar then white players,that is not the stereotip ,that is a well know fact

I See racism is alive & well on the org.

And i think you meant sterotype

How can you say the word racism

when a white guitar player(me) say that i think black guitar players are usualy better rhythm guitar players?

Jimmy Nolen

Catfish

Nile Rodgers

Prince

Rodger Troutman

name me five better white rhythm guitar players?

Or the classic late 60's example of two greatest players at the time Hendrix and Clapton,Hendrix was 10 times better rhythm player(lead also )

thebanishedone said:

Gunsnhalen said:

I See racism is alive & well on the org.

And i think you meant sterotype

How can you say the word racism

when a white guitar player(me) say that i think black guitar players are usualy better rhythm guitar players?

Jimmy Nolen

Catfish

Nile Rodgers

Prince

Rodger Troutman

name me five better white rhythm guitar players?

Or the classic late 60's example of two greatest players at the time Hendrix and Clapton,Hendrix was 10 times better rhythm player(lead also )

But...you're only naming FUNK rhythm guitarists. There's more to rhythm guitar than just chicken grease. Rock, jazz, country, classical/flamenco, etc. None of those guys could pick up a les paul and a marshall plexi and drive a song like Slash can, finger pick like danny gatton, or comp jazz chord voicings/inversions like Allan Holdsworth.

MajesticOne89 said:

thebanishedone said:

How can you say the word racism

when a white guitar player(me) say that i think black guitar players are usualy better rhythm guitar players?

Jimmy Nolen

Catfish

Nile Rodgers

Prince

Rodger Troutman

name me five better white rhythm guitar players?

Or the classic late 60's example of two greatest players at the time Hendrix and Clapton,Hendrix was 10 times better rhythm player(lead also )

But...you're only naming FUNK rhythm guitarists. There's more to rhythm guitar than just chicken grease. Rock, jazz, country, classical/flamenco, etc. None of those guys could pick up a les paul and a marshall plexi and drive a song like Slash can, finger pick like danny gatton, or comp jazz chord voicings/inversions like Allan Holdsworth.

YES! I'll let ray finish this

First up. props to the guitarist on here for trying to educate, but it is sometimes hard to grasp when you don't have the background musically. Slash is great, the icon of his generation as far as guitar goes. My old band played 3 hours before Prince in Hong Kong in 2003 and Slash threw his after party at my club in 2010 and jammed with us a good 30 minutes. So I have seen both up close and personal. Musically they occupy different positions in their perspective projects.

A more apt Guns and Roses comparison would be to compare Prince to Izzy, as they are both rhythm guitar players, with Prince taking the occasional solo. Slash plays lead guitar exclusively. Eddie Van Halen plays Metal and is famous for his tap style, which neither Slash or Prince use much.

As I said in a previous post, Prince is a song writer, not a riff writer. He writes solos to fit the song that he has composed. Speed or number of notes do not figure into the equation. He is an outstanding guitar player.

Because Slash is so easily recognizable, he gets a lot of guff from guitar players "he is not that good", "He is average at best..." But as alluded to earlier in the thread, Slash has written some amazing riffs that have defined rock music for the last 25 years.

Prince has written some of the most amazing songs of the last 30 years. Guitar riffs? No so much. If you disagree, which ones? I am interested.

leonche64 said:

First up. props to the guitarist on here for trying to educate, but it is sometimes hard to grasp when you don't have the background musically. Slash is great, the icon of his generation as far as guitar goes. My old band played 3 hours before Prince in Hong Kong in 2003 and Slash threw his after party at my club in 2010 and jammed with us a good 30 minutes. So I have seen both up close and personal. Musically they occupy different positions in their perspective projects.

A more apt Guns and Roses comparison would be to compare Prince to Izzy, as they are both rhythm guitar players, with Prince taking the occasional solo. Slash plays lead guitar exclusively. Eddie Van Halen plays Metal and is famous for his tap style, which neither Slash or Prince use much.

As I said in a previous post, Prince is a song writer, not a riff writer. He writes solos to fit the song that he has composed. Speed or number of notes do not figure into the equation. He is an outstanding guitar player.

Because Slash is so easily recognizable, he gets a lot of guff from guitar players "he is not that good", "He is average at best..." But as alluded to earlier in the thread, Slash has written some amazing riffs that have defined rock music for the last 25 years.

Prince has written some of the most amazing songs of the last 30 years. Guitar riffs? No so much. If you disagree, which ones? I am interested.

That's awesome you got to see him i saw him person in a movie theatre once, but i didn't say hi he was with people. Didn't want to be that awkward fan who interrupts

Prince is an amazing player, he has not done what i woul call rifts i admit, but his solos are some of the meat of his songs

Plus personally i always liked Prince's piano playing even better[as a piano player myself]

But Slash well you got Welcome To The Jungle, Paradise City, Sweet Child ''O'' Mine, My Michelle, Nighttrain, Mr. Brownstone, November Rain, Estranged, etc.

Hell even non hits like Right Next Door To Hell, Locomotive, Don't Cry, Coma, Since I Don't Have You etc. have great rifts.

The first Velvet Revolver album had some great guitar riffs and solos:

I dont see why it has to be a competition There BOTH good guitar players and are held high at what they do..

thebanishedone said:

So prince is a rhythm guitar player who occasionaly ay lead guitar and should be compared to izzy stradlin.haha haha what a crap.the best way to compare slash and prince if they played a same song.and they did. Check rod stewart's version of peach and check prince's original. While peach is something that can be considered as slash's comfort zone his playing isn't even close to prince's fancy licks

Nope. Only way that comparison works if they are on the same stage playing through the same rig in the same key with the same singer. That DID NOT happen. I said their position in the musical composition should be compared. The terms "lead" and "rhythm" do not denote one is better than the other or subordinate any more than major or minor keys do. I speak of the work done in the context of song structure. Use this as an opportunity to educate yourself on musical matters.

Jesus Christ, didn't take long for a racial discussion to pop up. Says more about some folks commenting than it does about the world at large. Jesus Christ. Can't we just appreciate Slash?

Timmy84 said:

Jesus Christ, didn't take long for a racial discussion to pop up. Says more about some folks commenting than it does about the world at large. Jesus Christ. Can't we just appreciate Slash?

This is how the org goes

You can't have a thread about just the player, race & other players people think are better have to come up. But in the end Slash doesn't care who is whiter, blacker or better. He is respected, his face is in every guitar center in America & he's makin dough everyday

Gunsnhalen said:

Timmy84 said:

Jesus Christ, didn't take long for a racial discussion to pop up. Says more about some folks commenting than it does about the world at large. Jesus Christ. Can't we just appreciate Slash?

This is how the org goes

You can't have a thread about just the player, race & other players people think are better have to come up. But in the end Slash doesn't care who is whiter, blacker or better. He is respected, his face is in every guitar center in America & he's makin dough everyday

Slash blurred that line anyway with his image!