I thought Dawn came back and they were going to release something. Did the I'll Cry single ever get released?

jthad1129 said:

I thought Dawn came back and they were going to release something. Did the I'll Cry single ever get released?

While she has come back, and the song I'll Cry Later", was leaked unofficially to radio, neither the song or an album has been released, official. They are doing spot dates around the country.

Dawn has been back with the group since 2005. But she is not recording with them because she said the group was offered a bad contract so she declined to sign it. Since the group is with some unknown label called Rufftown or something like that, I doubt whatever the other 3 are releasing is going to get out there much if it is released at all.

Not to mean, but no really cares about En Vogue and they haven't for years. I mean, I get that they can sing and I do like some tunes, but to me, TLC is better.

Fury said:

The same thing that happened with O7 reunion and countless other reunions-- most folks don't care anymore. Folks have moved on and they have old cd's

Very true.When Old School R&B bands reunite,it usually has very limited impact.In most cases,they release a single or an album on a small independent label so there's not alot of promotion and hype.These acts should just focus on Old School reunion tours with other acts from the same period.EnVogue should do a tour with the reunited SWV.They can add Boys II Men and Shai to the roster and that's a good line-up right there.

scriptgirl said:

Not to mean, but no really cares about En Vogue and they haven't for years. I mean, I get that they can sing and I do like some tunes, but to me, TLC is better.

But, that's like comparing, apples to oranges. They were both great, but when it came to girl groups, I would say that En Vogue, was better than, let's say, Jade.

scriptgirl said:

Not to mean, but no really cares about En Vogue and they haven't for years. I mean, I get that they can sing and I do like some tunes, but to me, TLC is better.

I think TLC were more interesting,but EnVogue had better vocalists

EnVogue better singers, but TLC had that IT factor EnVogue lacked. Plus, they were more "real" and their vids have aged better.

Dawn will tour with the group but not record with them . She said once again the girls signed a bad deal and did'nt wait for other options : One of the other members Maxine have come forward saying Dawn was right becaue now they have a deal they're fighting hard to get out of. They should've waited :

Dawn has been bitter for years and a drama queen, but she's learned a lot from it and seems to know how to keep herself out of trouble now. I hope the group tours again, I like the idea of getting with other groups. I know Blackstreet & SWV did that a few years ago.

SoulAlive said:

Fury said:

The same thing that happened with O7 reunion and countless other reunions-- most folks don't care anymore. Folks have moved on and they have old cd's

Very true.When Old School R&B bands reunite,it usually has very limited impact.In most cases,they release a single or an album on a small independent label so there's not alot of promotion and hype.These acts should just focus on Old School reunion tours with other acts from the same period.EnVogue should do a tour with the reunited SWV.They can add Boys II Men and Shai to the roster and that's a good line-up right there.

Not true New Edition has had a very successful reunion. Even with the inclusion of Bobby Brown..

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

SoulAlive said:

Very true.When Old School R&B bands reunite,it usually has very limited impact.In most cases,they release a single or an album on a small independent label so there's not alot of promotion and hype.These acts should just focus on Old School reunion tours with other acts from the same period.EnVogue should do a tour with the reunited SWV.They can add Boys II Men and Shai to the roster and that's a good line-up right there.

Not true New Edition has had a very successful reunion. Even with the inclusion of Bobby Brown..

In what way? They're not getting the New Kids On The Block money. The last album they released on Bad Boy didn't do much. They even had to split into different acts like Heads Of State & BBD.

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

SoulAlive said:

Very true.When Old School R&B bands reunite,it usually has very limited impact.In most cases,they release a single or an album on a small independent label so there's not alot of promotion and hype.These acts should just focus on Old School reunion tours with other acts from the same period.EnVogue should do a tour with the reunited SWV.They can add Boys II Men and Shai to the roster and that's a good line-up right there.

Not true New Edition has had a very successful reunion. Even with the inclusion of Bobby Brown..

Home Again? That album was amazing, I used to have it in the 90's

MickyDolenz said:

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

Not true New Edition has had a very successful reunion. Even with the inclusion of Bobby Brown..

In what way? They're not getting the New Kids On The Block money. The last album they released on Bad Boy didn't do much. They even had to split into different acts like Heads Of State & BBD.

I've said it before these guys can tour and be successful but nobody is checking these

guys for new music period. They are no different from any other old school act in that

regard. Don't let me get started on this off again on again Teddy Riley/Guy/Blackstreet

nonsense. You have two different Blackstreet's touring the way you have two War groups

and Temptation groups touring.

MickyDolenz said:

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

Not true New Edition has had a very successful reunion. Even with the inclusion of Bobby Brown..

In what way? They're not getting the New Kids On The Block money. The last album they released on Bad Boy didn't do much. They even had to split into different acts like Heads Of State & BBD.

The album debuted on the US Billboard 200 at number one, becoming the group's first album to open at number one, selling 441,000 in its first week sales. It also topped the US Billboard R&B Albums Chart as the group's first album in twelve years to do so since their self titled album in 1984.The album's success spawned four singles which collectively received moderate Billboard chart success. It was certified Platinum by the RIAA, for sales and shipments over one million copies.

That don't sound like a flop to me.....I agree to. I have it. It was a good album like Alphastreet said....

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

MickyDolenz said:

In what way? They're not getting the New Kids On The Block money. The last album they released on Bad Boy didn't do much. They even had to split into different acts like Heads Of State & BBD.

The album debuted on the US Billboard 200 at number one, becoming the group's first album to open at number one, selling 441,000 in its first week sales. It also topped the US Billboard R&B Albums Chart as the group's first album in twelve years to do so since their self titled album in 1984.The album's success spawned four singles which collectively received moderate Billboard chart success. It was certified Platinum by the RIAA, for sales and shipments over one million copies.

That don't sound like a flop to me.....I agree to. I have it. It was a good album like Alphastreet said....

The group themselves said the album flopped because Puffy didn't promote it and he had them record teenybop tunes when they wanted to do more mature material. What four singles were released? I just know about Hot 2Nite. Also the Bad Boy album was released in 2004, so that's 20 years from 1984, not 12.

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MickyDolenz said:

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

The album debuted on the US Billboard 200 at number one, becoming the group's first album to open at number one, selling 441,000 in its first week sales. It also topped the US Billboard R&B Albums Chart as the group's first album in twelve years to do so since their self titled album in 1984.The album's success spawned four singles which collectively received moderate Billboard chart success. It was certified Platinum by the RIAA, for sales and shipments over one million copies.

That don't sound like a flop to me.....I agree to. I have it. It was a good album like Alphastreet said....

The group themselves said the album flopped because Puffy didn't promote it and he had them record teenybop tunes when they wanted to do more mature material. What four singles were released? I just know about Hot 2Nite. Also the Bad Boy album was released in 2004, so that's 20 years from 1984, not 12.

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No it was released on September 15, 1996....

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

MickyDolenz said:

The group themselves said the album flopped because Puffy didn't promote it and he had them record teenybop tunes when they wanted to do more mature material. What four singles were released? I just know about Hot 2Nite. Also the Bad Boy album was released in 2004, so that's 20 years from 1984, not 12.

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No it was released on September 15, 1996....

No, it was not. I have the One Love album. You must be talking about this:

Home Again was on MCA Records, not Bad Boy.

MickyDolenz said:

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

No it was released on September 15, 1996....

No, it was not. I have the One Love album. You must be talking about this:

Home Again was on MCA Records, not Bad Boy.

Yeah U right. I forgot they did do a album with Bad Boy in 2004. I know Diddy did work with them on Home Alone to so that was my mix up.The album in 2004 it was a flop. Ok I admit I was wrong for the first time.

shorttrini said:

scriptgirl said:

Not to mean, but no really cares about En Vogue and they haven't for years. I mean, I get that they can sing and I do like some tunes, but to me, TLC is better.

But, that's like comparing, apples to oranges. They were both great, but when it came to girl groups, I would say that En Vogue, was better than, let's say, Jade.

It is a little bit shocking that they seem to receive such little regard after the heights EnVogue reached. "What a Man" and everything they touched from that time frame was golden.

Honey Cone had a similiar career in length and perhaps number of hits, and while they are somewhat "Unsung" (Honey Cone would be a great Unsung episode) they are still well loved over time. The discord withinn EnVogue may have disgusted the world enough to put people off. The other EnVogue thing was that not much success was found in their solo careers to support interest in their group work.

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

SoulAlive said:

Very true.When Old School R&B bands reunite,it usually has very limited impact.In most cases,they release a single or an album on a small independent label so there's not alot of promotion and hype.These acts should just focus on Old School reunion tours with other acts from the same period.EnVogue should do a tour with the reunited SWV.They can add Boys II Men and Shai to the roster and that's a good line-up right there.

Not true New Edition has had a very successful reunion. Even with the inclusion of Bobby Brown..

They're doing OK but *most* of these Old School R&B reunions don't have much of an impact.EnVogue and SWV just released new singles.You're not gonna hear these songs on the radio That's why I said they should just focus on reunion tours with other acts from the same period.