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Thread started 11/29/11 8:43am

lazycrockett

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Dr. Conrad Murray Sentenced Today

We should know within the next couple of hours now much the judge throws at him. I expect the full four years though that will all be quickly reduced. He may serve 2 months in county before house arrest.

The judge is also going to stipulate a huge fine to be paid to the jackson kids, which I think is BS cause that leaves Murray no other option than to sell his story all over the place.

[Edited 11/29/11 8:55am]

The Most Important Thing In Life Is Sincerity....Once You Can Fake That, You Can Fake Anything.
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Reply #1 posted 11/29/11 9:06am

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Is it possible that Murray could be forbidden to earn any money by using Michael's name? Is it possible by law?

"When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all."
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Reply #2 posted 11/29/11 9:27am

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are they serious in asking murray to pay restitution of a 100 million and for funeral costs? REALLY? SERIOUSLY?

man, he has such an amazing body of music that it's sad to see him constrict it down to the basics. he's too talented for the lineup he's doing. estelle 81
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Reply #3 posted 11/29/11 9:27am

Timmy84

Yeah they're demanding he pay up.

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Reply #4 posted 11/29/11 9:43am

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Lord this judge wont shut up.

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Reply #5 posted 11/29/11 9:49am

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L4OATheOriginal said:

are they serious in asking murray to pay restitution of a 100 million and for funeral costs? REALLY? SERIOUSLY?

They'll probably pursue AEG for that after Conrad's sentencing today. Wait a minute, doesn't the family already have a lawsuit pending against AEG?

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Reply #6 posted 11/29/11 9:59am

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So no surprised the judge gave him 4 years, but now it goes through the system. No mention as of yet bout the fine.

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Reply #7 posted 11/29/11 10:01am

mjscarousal

Justice has been served

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Reply #8 posted 11/29/11 10:01am

V10LETBLUES

Well, things wrapped up just as most of us thought. Conrad got the max sentence. It was an open and shut case. Conrad's job was basically just to be responsible babysitter for MJ and he blew it BIG time. Not only giving the baby candy, cigarettes and beer, but killing the person he was charged with.

[Edited 11/29/11 10:03am]

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Reply #9 posted 11/29/11 10:05am

dag

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lazycrockett said:

Lord this judge wont shut up.

He was AMAZING!!!

"When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all."
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Reply #10 posted 11/29/11 10:08am

Musicslave

You could tell from what Judge Pastor was saying, if he could have done more he would have. He went as far as he could, which is what I expected. I would have been shocked if Conrad would have gotten anything less.

It was kind of weird hearing the judge raise the same concerns many of us here did in his consideration of his sentencing. Some things were just indefensible.

[Edited 11/29/11 10:11am]

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Reply #11 posted 11/29/11 10:18am

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EVERYTHING the Judge said was on-point. I listened to every word he said and it needed to be said. Dr. Murray just sat there not giving a Damn about anything but all the Whores he won't be able to Fuck around with when they lock him up...

I wish he would've gotten sentenced to State Prison..He'll probably serve 1yr in jail if that...

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Reply #12 posted 11/29/11 10:21am

mjscarousal

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EVERYTHING the Judge said was on-point. I listened to every word he said and it needed to be said. Dr. Murray just sat there not giving a Damn about anything but all the Whores he won't be able to Fuck around with when they lock him up...

I wish he would've gotten sentenced to State Prison..He'll probably serve 1yr in jail if that...

Wasnt he a great judge? Just awesome

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Reply #13 posted 11/29/11 10:58am

kibbles

dag said:

lazycrockett said:

Lord this judge wont shut up.

He was AMAZING!!!

dag, some people just don't want to hear the truth. if the judge was saying what they agreed with, they wouldn't be hoping he would 'shut up'.

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Reply #14 posted 11/29/11 11:14am

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Is Murray still on "suicide watch"? confused

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Reply #15 posted 11/29/11 11:35am

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Musicslave said:

L4OATheOriginal said:

are they serious in asking murray to pay restitution of a 100 million and for funeral costs? REALLY? SERIOUSLY?

They'll probably pursue AEG for that after Conrad's sentencing today. Wait a minute, doesn't the family already have a lawsuit pending against AEG?

if that's the case then go after AEG instead of murray cause i understand the reason for damages but let's be real, the jackson estate could have affored the funeral cost it's not like mj was a middle class citizen

man, he has such an amazing body of music that it's sad to see him constrict it down to the basics. he's too talented for the lineup he's doing. estelle 81
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Reply #16 posted 11/29/11 11:52am

nursev

Told ya'll he was gonna get and do those four years! Believe me they have let some child molester go just to make room for Conrad lol
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Reply #17 posted 11/29/11 11:56am

kibbles

L4OATheOriginal said:

Musicslave said:

They'll probably pursue AEG for that after Conrad's sentencing today. Wait a minute, doesn't the family already have a lawsuit pending against AEG?

if that's the case then go after AEG instead of murray cause i understand the reason for damages but let's be real, the jackson estate could have affored the funeral cost it's not like mj was a middle class citizen

the parents do have a lawsuit against aeg, but i don't think its going anywhere. he wasn't their employee so the legal doctrine of respondeat superior doesn't apply here. the jacksons have been floating this theory from day one, and it won't fly.

under the law, if you cause someone's death, you can and should be held liable, period. it's not about whether someone could have afforded anything. it's about holding the person who caused the damage responsible, period. whether mj's estate had the money to pay for his funeral is irrelevant.

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Reply #18 posted 11/29/11 11:58am

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Stars React to Conrad Murray Sentencing

1129_conrad2_singleConrad Murray was just sentenced to four years behind bars for his role in the death of Michael Jackson.

While Judge Michael Pastor's sentence was the maximum that could be imposed, many felt it wasn't enough, including celebrities. Perhaps the strongest comment came from Jackson's friend Al Sharpton, who said Murray "prostituted" his profession skills as Michael's doctor.

Stars took to Twitter and Facebook to comment on the sentencing. Read some of their reactions below:

Reverend Al Shapton, via Facebook:

"The sentencing of Dr. Conrad Murray to four years in prison by no means ends the injustice suffered by Michael Jackson nor does it in any way mitigate the fact that his children have lost a father and the Jacksons have lost a son for the rest of their life. While I approve that the Judge gave the highest sentence permitted by law and that he used harsh language in condemning Dr. Murray's recklessness, the sentence is light compared to the damage Dr. Murray and those that may have participated (and went unpunished) have received in relation to the damages they have done. For those of us who knew Michael and loved him this is not a day of celebration. It is a day of continued pain because of the loss of a great artist and friend. I do hope it sends a signal to those that would prostitute their professional skills for money and pleasure while violating the oath of their profession."

Ice Cube, via Twitter:

"4 years ain't enough time for Dr. Conrad Dirty..."

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A lot of doctors are just like Conrad Murray. They've reduced their practice to simple clinical dope dealin'.

Charlamagne Tha God
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"Conrad Murray lucky the max was only 4 years. You accused of killing Michael Jackson you are absolutely getting the Max."

Kelly Osbourne
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"4 years is not enough but just think where ever he goes what ever he does he will b known as the man that killed MJ that to me is #justice!"

"Its really amazing how many different opinions there are on the MJ case! everyone is entitled to there own opinion i just hate rock docs!"

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Reply #19 posted 11/29/11 12:38pm

nursev

^ guess all the celebs think he got off easy.
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Reply #20 posted 11/29/11 1:23pm

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mjscarousal said:

Justice has been served

Has it? He killed a man recklessly and got just four lousy years.

Somebody once said Doctors make the best assasins. Maybe.

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Reply #21 posted 11/29/11 1:32pm

V10LETBLUES

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mjscarousal said:

Justice has been served

Has it? He killed a man recklessly and got just four lousy years.

Somebody once said Doctors make the best assasins. Maybe.

Conrad, definitely got off easy for his negligent medical care of someone under his personal care, and the life of an individual can never be based on time in jail. Wherever MJ is I doubt he has any animosity towards Mr. Murray. It was a cat and mouse game between a troubled soul and his caretakers.

MJ was headed in the wrong direction already. He needed someone to help him. Murray was obviously not it. His own family tried interventions and he was able to deflect them. There is no easy black and white in this situation. It was a terrible situation before Mr. Murray came in the picture. A lot of factors came together in a deadly combination that was measured in greed, ego and bad judgement by all involved. Including the concert promoters.

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Reply #22 posted 11/29/11 3:01pm

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L4OATheOriginal said:

Musicslave said:

They'll probably pursue AEG for that after Conrad's sentencing today. Wait a minute, doesn't the family already have a lawsuit pending against AEG?

if that's the case then go after AEG instead of murray cause i understand the reason for damages but let's be real, the jackson estate could have affored the funeral cost it's not like mj was a middle class citizen´

Now that's not really the point, isn't it?? Besides, it's not the family asking for 100 mil, it's the DA asking for the family to get rewarded that amount.

I think that's just symbolic anyway. There is no way he can pay that... he probably will already have a problem paying 50k.

I'm glad he got sentenced for 4 years though... but at the end of the day... it won't change a thing, it won't bring Michael back and people are asses... they believe what they want to believe... regardless of facts, verdicts and sentences.

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Reply #23 posted 11/29/11 3:33pm

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"Music gives a soul to the universe, wings to the mind, flight to the imagination and life to everything." --Plato

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Reply #24 posted 11/29/11 3:52pm

angel345

Well, anyone in their right mind, including the judge could see Murray was negligent. It's a shame that his own mother apologized to the Jackson family via letter on his behalf.

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Reply #25 posted 11/29/11 4:03pm

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^^Well, at least the mother did... but then again, playing the devil's advocate, if you feel you've done nothing wrong (or are too arrogant or sociopathic to see you've done wrong), it's hard to apologize.

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Reply #26 posted 11/29/11 4:04pm

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The Jacksons dont need his restitution.

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Reply #27 posted 11/29/11 4:07pm

PatrickS77

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dreamfactory313 said:

The Jacksons dont need his restitution.

Again! Not the point! I might not agree with the amount he should pay, but he should pay. He caused the death of a person.

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Reply #28 posted 11/29/11 4:32pm

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mjscarousal said:

Wasnt he a great judge? Just awesome

That Judge said everything I was thinking and feeling. Dr. Murray mourned for Michael about 5-minutes after he realized he was dead then went into "cover-up" over-drive. His fear is understandable but his constant lies and finger-pointing just dug him in deeper and deeper. Had he shown an OUNCE of remorse I would feel a little bit different about him but he never gave a Damn about anything...I don't feel sorry for him at all and no one should. He had that Nasty-ass look on his face in the court room and could care-less about the restitution trial and didn't hesitate to say he didn't want to be there. I hope the judge orders him to pay the Jackson estate everything that he has left that is worth selling...

Let this be a lesson to ALL the private "Doctors to the Stars" if you allow Greed to cloud your better judgement you might lose your freedom.

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Reply #29 posted 11/29/11 4:35pm

angel345

PatrickS77 said:

^^Well, at least the mother did... but then again, playing the devil's advocate, if you feel you've done nothing wrong (or are too arrogant or sociopathic to see you've done wrong), it's hard to apologize.

Yeah shrug

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