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Thread started 05/05/11 12:39pm

Genesia

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No WAY! A new album by The Cars?!

It's due out next week (May 10), but you can stream it at the Rolling Stone website. I miss Benjamin Orr, but this sounds great.

I just pre-ordered it...on vinyl, no less. touched

http://www.rollingstone.c...3?hpt=Sbin

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Reply #1 posted 05/05/11 12:40pm

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I read a story bout this in Rolling Stone a while back. The album is supposed to be good stuff if you're into The Cars.

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Reply #2 posted 05/05/11 12:47pm

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Spinlight said:

I read a story bout this in Rolling Stone a while back. The album is supposed to be good stuff if you're into The Cars.

I'm about halfway through the album. It.Sounds.Fantastic.

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Reply #3 posted 05/05/11 1:55pm

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I plum forgot, thanks for the heads up, go to youtube and watch the single blue tip. smile

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Reply #4 posted 05/06/11 4:27pm

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Great!!! Thanx 4 the link. I have been waiting for this album for a few months. They are also doing a mini tour. I will be seeing them in Oakland May 13th.

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Reply #5 posted 05/06/11 4:55pm

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that new single sounds like they havent missed a beat

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Reply #6 posted 05/07/11 1:59am

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Wow, it sounds great. Ric's vocals sound exactly like they did in the 80s, the best of any reunion band ever. I'm missing some of the higher harmonies - is that what Ben Orr did?

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Reply #7 posted 05/07/11 6:14am

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abigail05 said:

Wow, it sounds great. Ric's vocals sound exactly like they did in the 80s, the best of any reunion band ever. I'm missing some of the higher harmonies - is that what Ben Orr did?

yeah, Ric even mentioned that in interviews for the album that it was tough to do parts that he knew that Ben was better at doing.


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Reply #8 posted 05/07/11 6:20am

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Reply #9 posted 05/07/11 7:01am

LayDownMisty

sounds kinda lame

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Reply #10 posted 05/07/11 9:06am

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LayDownMisty said:

sounds kinda lame

Take your spite elsewhere, Bria.

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Reply #11 posted 05/07/11 9:48am

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The wrecka stow just emailed me. I can pick it up today! woot!

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Reply #12 posted 05/07/11 10:30am

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Genesia said:

The wrecka stow just emailed me. I can pick it up today! woot!

Lucky u!!! What store is it?

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Reply #13 posted 05/07/11 12:00pm

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felixcat67 said:



Genesia said:


The wrecka stow just emailed me. I can pick it up today! woot!



Lucky u!!! What store is it?



It's a small indie store in my city. They have tons of contemporary and vintage vinyl.
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Reply #14 posted 05/07/11 12:43pm

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Genesia said:

felixcat67 said:

Lucky u!!! What store is it?

It's a small indie store in my city. They have tons of contemporary and vintage vinyl.

Yeah i just got it too in the city (NYC) at a local store in the village they get thier tuesday stuff on fridays usually, the album is great btw.


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Reply #15 posted 05/10/11 10:49am

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I'm surprised people here are liking this album so much. Yes, they copied their old style exactly but the songs themselves aren't that catchy like their older singles.

I think a lot of people are so nostalgic and excited when old bands come back, that they want to believe a new album is good when it really isn't.

In my opinion, most of these older artists that release new albums really aren't that great. The only good one I can think of recently is Stevie Nicks' new album.

And then they wonder why people only want to hear the old hits. Maybe because their older stuff was better!

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Reply #16 posted 05/10/11 11:03am

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It is a great album! I got mine @ Best Buy--they have an "exclusive" edition which has 3 bonus tracks and videos for "Blue Tip" & "Sad Song"--for 9.99--great deal.

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Reply #17 posted 05/10/11 4:47pm

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I'm surprised people here are liking this album so much. Yes, they copied their old style exactly but the songs themselves aren't that catchy like their older singles.

I think a lot of people are so nostalgic and excited when old bands come back, that they want to believe a new album is good when it really isn't.

In my opinion, most of these older artists that release new albums really aren't that great. The only good one I can think of recently is Stevie Nicks' new album.

And then they wonder why people only want to hear the old hits. Maybe because their older stuff was better!

well, I'm a Cars fan and it would be cool to see them live again

but only if they don't do anything from this new record

sort of like Prince when he released Planet Turd

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Reply #18 posted 05/10/11 5:07pm

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Glindathegood said:

I'm surprised people here are liking this album so much. Yes, they copied their old style exactly but the songs themselves aren't that catchy like their older singles.

I think a lot of people are so nostalgic and excited when old bands come back, that they want to believe a new album is good when it really isn't.

In my opinion, most of these older artists that release new albums really aren't that great. The only good one I can think of recently is Stevie Nicks' new album.

And then they wonder why people only want to hear the old hits. Maybe because their older stuff was better!

Not feeling the Stevie Nicks record but then again i didnt really like her other stuff overall, here and there, but shes very hit and miss. The Cars record is good, people forget that the Cars werent a "catchy" group, your judging on singles like "you might think" and "Hello Again" and "Just what i Needed" but thats a piece of what they good to do, the "heartbeat city" album was viewed as them going commercial, because the Cars were considered "uncommercial" for most of their career. Why should the Cars do a new record and come back as something they arent? Nothing is more LAME than an older artist trying to be Hip, example Prince's last oh 10 -12 albums, Should the Cars come back with a timbaland production, a man who doesnt know what a guitar is? I mean the fall back is always that the older artists get dismissed because they arent "pushing the envelope" why should they have to create a whole new sound, they did that already, where are the newjacks breaking that ground like the older ones did in their day. Its this same age old debate, but why is it that "actors" do their best work when they are older and get better praise, and yet we so quickly dismiss a band because they are in their 50's. To me you sound OLD and worn out when you try to be something you arent, like if Elton John would do a duet with Lil Wayne. To me artists do better work when they are older, I mean a band like INXS had a great record with KICK, but to a casual fan that is "their best record" but sorry, ask any longtime INXS fan and thats usually not in the Top 5 of their best work, so i dont buy the bull of "i want the hits" this and that, and people that cant move on. A good record is a good record, whether your 19 or 59, and if you are comparing what you recorded at age 59 to what you cut at 20, you are constantly going to be let down, you cant compare, you dont think the same as you did then, i mean if you still act like you are 19 at 59 you better seek help, i mean there is a picture of President Obama smoking a jjoint at age 19, should that be what he is judged on now at his age? i mean come on now folks, let it go already.


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Reply #19 posted 05/10/11 5:09pm

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dance4me said:

It is a great album! I got mine @ Best Buy--they have an "exclusive" edition which has 3 bonus tracks and videos for "Blue Tip" & "Sad Song"--for 9.99--great deal.

Yeah its a strong record, i like the edge of it, i do miss Ben Orr on the higher parts, but as Ric said "he tried hard to do what he did, but couldnt"


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dance4me said:

It is a great album! I got mine @ Best Buy--they have an "exclusive" edition which has 3 bonus tracks and videos for "Blue Tip" & "Sad Song"--for 9.99--great deal.

I also got this edition. I think its great! Its been about 24 years since THE CARS released a album and I think they did a SUPER JOB. Not fair for any artist to be compared with there earlier stuff as we all get older and change. Enjoy the fact that some of your favorite artists are still putting out music years later when in reality, some don`t even have too anymore.

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Reply #21 posted 05/11/11 8:53am

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Not feeling the Stevie Nicks record but then again i didnt really like her other stuff overall, here and there, but shes very hit and miss. The Cars record is good, people forget that the Cars werent a "catchy" group, your judging on singles like "you might think" and "Hello Again" and "Just what i Needed" but thats a piece of what they good to do, the "heartbeat city" album was viewed as them going commercial, because the Cars were considered "uncommercial" for most of their career. Why should the Cars do a new record and come back as something they arent? Nothing is more LAME than an older artist trying to be Hip, example Prince's last oh 10 -12 albums, Should the Cars come back with a timbaland production, a man who doesnt know what a guitar is? I mean the fall back is always that the older artists get dismissed because they arent "pushing the envelope" why should they have to create a whole new sound, they did that already, where are the newjacks breaking that ground like the older ones did in their day. Its this same age old debate, but why is it that "actors" do their best work when they are older and get better praise, and yet we so quickly dismiss a band because they are in their 50's. To me you sound OLD and worn out when you try to be something you arent, like if Elton John would do a duet with Lil Wayne. To me artists do better work when they are older, I mean a band like INXS had a great record with KICK, but to a casual fan that is "their best record" but sorry, ask any longtime INXS fan and thats usually not in the Top 5 of their best work, so i dont buy the bull of "i want the hits" this and that, and people that cant move on. A good record is a good record, whether your 19 or 59, and if you are comparing what you recorded at age 59 to what you cut at 20, you are constantly going to be let down, you cant compare, you dont think the same as you did then, i mean if you still act like you are 19 at 59 you better seek help, i mean there is a picture of President Obama smoking a jjoint at age 19, should that be what he is judged on now at his age? i mean come on now folks, let it go already.

Aren't you contradicting yourself there? On the one hand, you are saying older artists can't be something they aren't and thus should make music in the same genre as their older records. But on the other hand, you say people shouldn't act the same way at 59 as they did at 19.

If people really change and grow so much, why do so many of these records by older artists sound exactly the same but not as good as their earlier records? If they are different now, why isn't their music different?

There's a difference between trying to be something you're not which I agree is bad, and copying the exact sound of your earlier songs with no real thought or creativity which it seems to me a lot of these older artists are doing.

I agree a good record is a good record regardless of the person's age, but I'm not going to praise an older artist's new record when it's poor, just because they are older and I liked a few of their songs in the past. I suppose some people look at like we're lucky they bother to do a new album at all because there's no money in it and they could just go out and play their own hits for the money and not do anything new at all. I guess that's a fair point.

I want older artists to continue to make new music, but I wish these records were better and they took more chances and showed more creativity and growth rather than trying to pretend it's still 1983.

Just because an artist is older, doesn't mean they created a new sound. A lot of these older artists were just as influenced by what went before them as newer artists. It's just that a lot of people don't remember what the 80's artists were influenced by that came before them.

I look at every artist equally regardless of age. However, there are some people who are so caught up in nostalgia that they think anything by an 80's artist is automatically good and everything by a newer artist is bad.

In my opinion, a lot of these older artists just aren't as motivated to put super effort into their work because they already have money and fame. What is there left for them to achieve? They do these new records more out of obligation to their fans than any genuine passion.

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lastdecember said:

Not feeling the Stevie Nicks record but then again i didnt really like her other stuff overall, here and there, but shes very hit and miss. The Cars record is good, people forget that the Cars werent a "catchy" group, your judging on singles like "you might think" and "Hello Again" and "Just what i Needed" but thats a piece of what they good to do, the "heartbeat city" album was viewed as them going commercial, because the Cars were considered "uncommercial" for most of their career. Why should the Cars do a new record and come back as something they arent? Nothing is more LAME than an older artist trying to be Hip, example Prince's last oh 10 -12 albums, Should the Cars come back with a timbaland production, a man who doesnt know what a guitar is? I mean the fall back is always that the older artists get dismissed because they arent "pushing the envelope" why should they have to create a whole new sound, they did that already, where are the newjacks breaking that ground like the older ones did in their day. Its this same age old debate, but why is it that "actors" do their best work when they are older and get better praise, and yet we so quickly dismiss a band because they are in their 50's. To me you sound OLD and worn out when you try to be something you arent, like if Elton John would do a duet with Lil Wayne. To me artists do better work when they are older, I mean a band like INXS had a great record with KICK, but to a casual fan that is "their best record" but sorry, ask any longtime INXS fan and thats usually not in the Top 5 of their best work, so i dont buy the bull of "i want the hits" this and that, and people that cant move on. A good record is a good record, whether your 19 or 59, and if you are comparing what you recorded at age 59 to what you cut at 20, you are constantly going to be let down, you cant compare, you dont think the same as you did then, i mean if you still act like you are 19 at 59 you better seek help, i mean there is a picture of President Obama smoking a jjoint at age 19, should that be what he is judged on now at his age? i mean come on now folks, let it go already.

Aren't you contradicting yourself there? On the one hand, you are saying older artists can't be something they aren't and thus should make music in the same genre as their older records. But on the other hand, you say people shouldn't act the same way at 59 as they did at 19.

If people really change and grow so much, why do so many of these records by older artists sound exactly the same but not as good as their earlier records? If they are different now, why isn't their music different?

There's a difference between trying to be something you're not which I agree is bad, and copying the exact sound of your earlier songs with no real thought or creativity which it seems to me a lot of these older artists are doing.

I agree a good record is a good record regardless of the person's age, but I'm not going to praise an older artist's new record when it's poor, just because they are older and I liked a few of their songs in the past. I suppose some people look at like we're lucky they bother to do a new album at all because there's no money in it and they could just go out and play their own hits for the money and not do anything new at all. I guess that's a fair point.

I want older artists to continue to make new music, but I wish these records were better and they took more chances and showed more creativity and growth rather than trying to pretend it's still 1983.

Just because an artist is older, doesn't mean they created a new sound. A lot of these older artists were just as influenced by what went before them as newer artists. It's just that a lot of people don't remember what the 80's artists were influenced by that came before them.

I look at every artist equally regardless of age. However, there are some people who are so caught up in nostalgia that they think anything by an 80's artist is automatically good and everything by a newer artist is bad.

In my opinion, a lot of these older artists just aren't as motivated to put super effort into their work because they already have money and fame. What is there left for them to achieve? They do these new records more out of obligation to their fans than any genuine passion.

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Well like i said there is good and bad in all. I mean the Rolling Stones havent had a good album in almost 3 decades, im not gonna give them props just because of what they did in the 60's and 70's. Paul McCartney and Elton JOhn had their share of shitty albums in the 80's and 90's but im not going to dismiss Elton when he comes out with "songs from the west coast" at age 54 just because he is "older" and i was going more into his old style, that album was just pure perfection, rivaling his early work. Paul McCartney did "Flaming Pie" in 1997 which was close to being the best thing he ever did, now he was way past his "young days" when that came out, and it was in his OLD STYLE of work.

Their is a huge difference between ripping off, or just becoming a caricature of who you were, or just going and working with the limitations you had when you started. Huge difference, i really had heard about these kind of limitations till it was pointed out by Magne Furuholmen the keyboard player for a-ha and now appartajik, he spoke about this when they put out their last album "Foot of the Mountain" which was really just a return to a more synth sound, not a copy, just going back to recording the way they did, no outside musicians producers etc...just three guys in a room, and they totally recaptured that feel without sounding "retro and wrong" and the proof was in the reviews that said it was their best record yet. I feel that is what the Cars did here, i feel Duran Duran did it on the current album etc...

The Cars really didnt have to come back, i dont think there is a big "nostalgia" thing because why would they care? this is a band that swore they would never work together again, and if they WANTED to cash in, why not do it when they got into the RnR hall of fame? and what exactly would they be cashing in on? they hadnt cut a record now since 1987, and to be honest that record which was done when they were YOUNG, quite frankly sucked, that sounded like a band tired and unspired and thats not what i hear on this record. I hear a band that has applied limitations to what they did back then, not trying to be 20 year olds, i mean lyrically they dont sound anything like they did. I would say they were coming back to cash in if they were doing "just what i needed" the 2011 mix with Lil Wayne, then point taken, but im not hearing anything like the early albums, and honestly they were never a HUGE band, with the exception of "Heartbeat City" blowing throw the roof.

So i dont buy the nostalgia thing, mainly because the last thing i want from a band/artist is to hear a HIT from 20 years ago, i dont want to hear Prince sing Purple Rain ever again, nor do i feel i am entitled to hear it when i buy a ticket to his show, to me, he is becoming a Nostalgia act because all he is doing is recording new music but playing ALL OLD shit, that to me is tired at this point, and the BS of the fans the fans the fans, sorry but you buy a ticket to see a performance, you dont buy a ticket for a certain set list, if you do then you are a fool, because you buying a ticket entitles you too just see the artist, they dont have to do one song that you know. So to me Nostalgia doesnt come into play for me at all, when say Rick Springfield cuts "Venus in Overdrive" at age 60 and it sounds and rocks harder than most 20 year olds SHOULD SOUND, then im gonna give him props and not hold back.

As for sounds, well it depends on the artist, true not every Older artist created a sound that isnt being said, but the "new wave" thing did originate in the 80's, so when i hear a band like the Killers, they are not a new band to me, theyre good, but i hear like 10 differnt bands in them.

As for motivation who is to say what is in an artists head, to me i will take a 60 year old Rick Springfield who touring 150 dates a year and has cut an album a year since 1998 getting stronger and stronger than listen to some new wannabe rock guy who sounds like a nickelback outcast. To me motivation has nothing to do with age, it has to do with your heart and soul. And it def varies with young and old, because i work around alot of younger people who have no motivation to do anything and are always tired and then i see people 10-20 years older than them working 2 jobs going to acting classes and doing films, so young means nothing.


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