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Reply #570 posted 02/19/11 9:32pm

alphastreet

one time I was with someone and they saw Janet do the hand move in Pleasure Principle and they thought of MJ's Speed Demon and I just shook my head

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Reply #571 posted 02/19/11 10:30pm

Swa

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ThePopLover2 said:

alphastreet said:

Pop up video was comparing dancers steps in Bad to steps in Nasty one time

I'm a HUGE fan of both...but they borrow from each other a lot, and sometimes MJ gets way more credit cause he's the way more famous one.

exactly sad

People are so Quick to say "She dances Just like Michael or She Ripps Off Michael" And some of his videos look like hers!

Janet's "Love Will Never Do" Was done WAY before "in the closet"

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Yes they are both similar because they are both Herb Ritts videos - reflective of his style of photography. Look at any videos Herb did and you will see similarities between them all.

They obviously inspired each other and drew from each other. It helped them both.

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Reply #572 posted 02/19/11 10:53pm

Timmy84

Swa said:

ThePopLover2 said:

exactly sad

People are so Quick to say "She dances Just like Michael or She Ripps Off Michael" And some of his videos look like hers!

Janet's "Love Will Never Do" Was done WAY before "in the closet"

[Edited 2/19/11 19:17pm]

Yes they are both similar because they are both Herb Ritts videos - reflective of his style of photography. Look at any videos Herb did and you will see similarities between them all.

They obviously inspired each other and drew from each other. It helped them both.

THANK YOU!

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Reply #573 posted 02/20/11 6:01am

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Timmy84 said:

Swa said:

Yes they are both similar because they are both Herb Ritts videos - reflective of his style of photography. Look at any videos Herb did and you will see similarities between them all.

They obviously inspired each other and drew from each other. It helped them both.

THANK YOU!

Yes but the point being made is that Janet gets ZERO credit for inspiring her brother. To some people it seems absurd that Michael, the King of Pop is influenced by anyone other than himself.

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Reply #574 posted 02/20/11 6:26am

Timmy84

My point is why do either of them have to prove it? If you wanna blame ANYONE for that, blame the media, don't blame either of those two.

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Reply #575 posted 02/20/11 8:03am

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Well, we got a Janet/MJ duet, but I would love to see Janet do something with Prince. Supposedly Jimmy and Terry wanted Prince to do the first verse on "Love Will Never Do (Without You)", and P has covered "What Have You Done for Me Lately" in concert. And then of course, there was that brief moment in time where they both had the same hairstyle... lol

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Reply #576 posted 02/20/11 9:28am

HAPPYPERSON

IMO this is her best rhythm nation performance ever

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Reply #577 posted 02/20/11 9:31am

trueiopian

mancabdriver said:

Timmy84 said:

THANK YOU!

Yes but the point being made is that Janet gets ZERO credit for inspiring her brother. To some people it seems absurd that Michael, the King of Pop is influenced by anyone other than himself.

But what's the point?

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Reply #578 posted 02/20/11 9:46am

ThePopLover2

Timmy84 said:

My point is why do either of them have to prove it? If you wanna blame ANYONE for that, blame the media, don't blame either of those two.

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Reply #579 posted 02/20/11 9:55am

HAPPYPERSON

Yeah I agree that the music industry kinda ignore what she contributed to pop culture plus people automatically think of madonna who is dubbed by most as the queen of pop as the only female pop artists who influence female pop artists of today and sadly it look like the media is acknowledging britney spears, beyonce, and lady gaga accomplishment more than janet b/c you hear britney spears princess of pop, best selling teenage artist and that how music buyers think of her, beyonce best entertainer out there to today , lady gaga rising pop icon of 21st century but do you think janet branded her name enough if that makes sense b/c like the ladies i mention madonna wasn't only her music, she did movies (didn't she won a oscar?) plus the controversy and her name was constanly in our face, britney spears doing loads of tv specials for her music, had video games, dolls, and pepsi endorsements so she was constanly everywhere, beyonce know for her live performances, crazy in love became her signature song with the uh oh uh oh, and father signed her on to do all kinds of endorsements like cover girl, macdonalds and so on , lady gaga known for her crazy shock antic with her fashion that draws attention and her vison of art that everyone's interest in her and have 2 hit albums especially when know one hardly buys albums anymore, so they kinda branded their name with not only their music to the point that people won't forget them even if they took from other atists they made like their own which is kinda sad

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Reply #580 posted 02/20/11 10:00am

trueiopian

HAPPYPERSON said:

Yeah I agree that the music industry kinda ignore what she contributed to pop culture plus people automatically think of madonna who is dubbed by most as the queen of pop as the only female pop artists who influence female pop artists of today and sadly it look like the media is acknowledging britney spears, beyonce, and lady gaga accomplishment more than janet b/c you hear britney spears princess of pop, best selling teenage artist and that how music buyers think of her, beyonce best entertainer out there to today , lady gaga rising pop icon of 21st century but do you think janet branded her name enough if that makes sense b/c like the ladies i mention madonna wasn't only her music, she did movies (didn't she won a oscar?) plus the controversy and her name was constanly in our face, britney spears doing loads of tv specials for her music, had video games, dolls, and pepsi endorsements so she was constanly everywhere, beyonce know for her live performances, crazy in love became her signature song with the uh oh uh oh, and father signed her on to do all kinds of endorsements like cover girl, macdonalds and so on , lady gaga known for her crazy shock antic with her fashion that draws attention and her vison of art that everyone's interest in her and have 2 hit albums especially when know one hardly buys albums anymore, so they kinda branded their name with not only their music to the point that people won't forget them even if they took from other atists they made like their own which is kinda sad

?????

Janet is being ignored now because she hasn't been relevant musically in 10 years. But during the All For You era she was praised left and right with achievement awards. Let’s not act like Janet hasn’t received any praise for her work or influence. People think of Madonna more because her brand is far more established and when you have artists like Lady Gaga directly copying everything you do it's pretty hard to ignore her.

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Reply #581 posted 02/20/11 10:06am

Timmy84

trueiopian said:

mancabdriver said:

Yes but the point being made is that Janet gets ZERO credit for inspiring her brother. To some people it seems absurd that Michael, the King of Pop is influenced by anyone other than himself.

But what's the point?

You know? lol

Plus let's not have short term memory loss because Janet was definitely getting credit during the AFY era.

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Reply #582 posted 02/20/11 10:23am

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"Music gives a soul to the universe, wings to the mind, flight to the imagination and life to everything." --Plato

https://youtu.be/CVwv9LZMah0
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Reply #583 posted 02/20/11 11:30am

ThePopLover2

HAPPYPERSON said:

Yeah I agree that the music industry kinda ignore what she contributed to pop culture plus people automatically think of madonna who is dubbed by most as the queen of pop as the only female pop artists who influence female pop artists of today and sadly it look like the media is acknowledging britney spears, beyonce, and lady gaga accomplishment more than janet b/c you hear britney spears princess of pop, best selling teenage artist and that how music buyers think of her, beyonce best entertainer out there to today , lady gaga rising pop icon of 21st century but do you think janet branded her name enough if that makes sense b/c like the ladies i mention madonna wasn't only her music, she did movies (didn't she won a oscar?) plus the controversy and her name was constanly in our face, britney spears doing loads of tv specials for her music, had video games, dolls, and pepsi endorsements so she was constanly everywhere, beyonce know for her live performances, crazy in love became her signature song with the uh oh uh oh, and father signed her on to do all kinds of endorsements like cover girl, macdonalds and so on , lady gaga known for her crazy shock antic with her fashion that draws attention and her vison of art that everyone's interest in her and have 2 hit albums especially when know one hardly buys albums anymore, so they kinda branded their name with not only their music to the point that people won't forget them even if they took from other atists they made like their own which is kinda sad

Honestly, The Media has been doing that for YEARS lol

Same stuff with Elvis, They pratically acted as if Elvis created Rock and Roll. Lets Just forget Chuck Berry and Little Richard. We'll Just give credit to the more FAMOUS artist. That's what people base who is the better artist on. Record sales/Tour Numbers/ and who is more Famous.

But It doesnt matter what the media says, As Long as YOU believe it, nothing else matters shrug

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Reply #584 posted 02/20/11 12:15pm

midiscover

Damn, y'all still bitching? lol

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Reply #585 posted 02/20/11 1:27pm

V10LETBLUES

The only thing of great substance that I can add this this disscussion is say, how can we "Reply to 'Discuss Anything and Everything Janet Jackson (non-sticky)" when Janet still looks as hot as she does?

razz

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Reply #586 posted 02/20/11 1:42pm

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trueiopian said:

mancabdriver said:

Yes but the point being made is that Janet gets ZERO credit for inspiring her brother. To some people it seems absurd that Michael, the King of Pop is influenced by anyone other than himself.

But what's the point?

Michael already stated that Jan influenced him...Not to mention he loved to dance to "The Knowledge"...what else is there to say?

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Reply #587 posted 02/20/11 1:57pm

ThePopLover2

mancabdriver said:

Timmy84 said:

THANK YOU!

Yes but the point being made is that Janet gets ZERO credit for inspiring her brother. To some people it seems absurd that Michael, the King of Pop is influenced by anyone other than himself.

Yeah, But I guess If Michael already said it, why does it matter that other people dont believe it lol . I guess to Them it's like saying "Latoya Influenced Janet "lol

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Reply #588 posted 02/20/11 2:25pm

mancabdriver

ThePopLover2 said:

mancabdriver said:

Yes but the point being made is that Janet gets ZERO credit for inspiring her brother. To some people it seems absurd that Michael, the King of Pop is influenced by anyone other than himself.

Yeah, But I guess If Michael already said it, why does it matter that other people dont believe it lol . I guess to Them it's like saying "Latoya Influenced Janet "lol

That's nice of Michael to reveal - But he is still the idiot who claimed Janet "stole" the idea of RN from him. Even if she did - what kind of a brother would say that and discredit her most accomplished work? Especially when she gets a lot of flak from MJ fans saying she copies him.

Even if people on this site recognise Janet's influence, the point that is being highlighted is that the average Joe on the street doesn’t.

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Reply #589 posted 02/20/11 3:37pm

SEANMAN

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According to reports, the Billboard awards will be returning in May. Janet is still the most-awarded artist with 33 Billboard awards across different categories.

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Reply #590 posted 02/20/11 4:01pm

HAPPYPERSON

The top Billboard Music Awards is held by

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Reply #591 posted 02/20/11 4:05pm

ThePopLover2

SEANMAN said:

According to reports, the Billboard awards will be returning in May. Janet is still the most-awarded artist with 33 Billboard awards across different categories.

Bless your little heart for changing the subject lol

Doesnt that outfit look like something Selena Would wear, or is it just me?

74277030,  /Michael Ochs Archives

Selena Quintanilla Perez Picture Gallery 35

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Reply #592 posted 02/20/11 4:07pm

trueiopian

HLN interview on right now.

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Reply #593 posted 02/20/11 4:22pm

ThePopLover2

For Some reason....I dont think that was the only time Joe hit her. hmmm

That's just my opinion though.

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Reply #594 posted 02/20/11 4:29pm

trueiopian

ThePopLover2 said:

For Some reason....I dont think that was the only time Joe hit her. hmmm

That's just my opinion though.

Me neither. To be honest, I think she's trying to cover up for him.

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Reply #595 posted 02/20/11 4:33pm

ThePopLover2

What I wouldn't do to have a body like That.

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Reply #596 posted 02/20/11 4:34pm

SEANMAN

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ThePopLover2 said:

SEANMAN said:

According to reports, the Billboard awards will be returning in May. Janet is still the most-awarded artist with 33 Billboard awards across different categories.

Bless your little heart for changing the subject lol

Doesnt that outfit look like something Selena Would wear, or is it just me?

74277030,  /Michael Ochs Archives

Selena Quintanilla Perez Picture Gallery 35

lol U so crazay!

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Reply #597 posted 02/20/11 4:38pm

ThePopLover2

trueiopian said:

ThePopLover2 said:

For Some reason....I dont think that was the only time Joe hit her. hmmm

That's just my opinion though.

Me neither. To be honest, I think she's trying to cover up for him.

Yeah it just seems unrealistic, But then again I used to get whippings left and right. (But i was a little badass). But She gets hit when she's really young and it never happened again? lol

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Reply #598 posted 02/20/11 4:43pm

ThePopLover2

And did She cut her hair Again? Or is it just me?

I like the Larry King Look Better

This look kinda makes her look old

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Reply #599 posted 02/20/11 4:59pm

SEANMAN

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COME TO BRAZIL!

COME TO BRAZIL!

COME TO BRAZIL!

lol

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