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Reply #150 posted 11/04/10 9:40pm

RipTheJacker

WaterInYourBath said:

RipTheJacker said:

nope.you ain't the only one, NWF ! biggrin

there are too many clues... nod

shhh

okay,okay giggle

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Reply #151 posted 11/04/10 9:43pm

RipTheJacker

MyLuv229 said:

You know, we never really talk about Michael the dancer.

"You're just another part of me.....Hee Hee...." dancing jig boogie

i'm diggin' those pants he's wearing...

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Reply #152 posted 11/04/10 9:45pm

Unholyalliance

I think you guys are putting too much thought into the Prince symbol on the painting. Obviously, you can tell by the prominent depiction of all the 80s and 70s versions of MJ that the artist is black and was around during that time. Also, Prince and MJ have always been pitted against each other as they were both very important to the music scene back in the mid to late 80s. I'm going to put this out there right now, I, highly, doubt that there is anything Prince related on this album, besides that symbol which is an ode to the 'rivalry' they kind of had and the significance they both had to each other.

Also, it could just be that the artist likes Prince and put that in there. Sometimes artists do that.

I kinda wish it was not there, but that was the artist's choice and the art has been approved that way, so whatever. I think my biggest beef is the text treatment. Even though I hated the Invincible cover, the text treatment was 200x better than it is on this album. You can barely read the word 'Michael' on it. I hope it changes by the time it goes to stores.

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Reply #153 posted 11/04/10 9:47pm

tangerine7

What's that got to do with him being black. 0_O

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Reply #154 posted 11/04/10 9:54pm

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MyLuv229 said:

You know, we never really talk about Michael the dancer.

Fan forums barely talk about the music anymore either neutral

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Reply #155 posted 11/04/10 9:55pm

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bboy87 said:

I have a feeling Motown will be releasing an album too in the next couple of months. Harry Weigner played some clips of Love Trip, Sunny Boy, What's So Good About Goodbye, and Wouldja? in Chicago back in September and said earlier this year that they were gonna do a follow up to "I Want You Back!: The Unreleased Masters"

Where's the Vualt at? I'm missing out on all the J5 news, I had know idea about this!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

PRINCE: Always and Forever
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Reply #156 posted 11/04/10 10:07pm

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RipTheJacker said:

there are too many clues... nod

There were also many "clues" on Beatles songs and album covers that fed the Paul McCartney died in a car wreck rumors in the late 1960's. But that didn't turn out to be true.

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Reply #157 posted 11/04/10 10:16pm

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Unholyalliance said:

I think you guys are putting too much thought into the Prince symbol on the painting. Obviously, you can tell by the prominent depiction of all the 80s and 70s versions of MJ that the artist is black and was around during that time. Also, Prince and MJ have always been pitted against each other as they were both very important to the music scene back in the mid to late 80s. I'm going to put this out there right now, I, highly, doubt that there is anything Prince related on this album, besides that symbol which is an ode to the 'rivalry' they kind of had and the significance they both had to each other.

Also, it could just be that the artist likes Prince and put that in there. Sometimes artists do that.

I kinda wish it was not there, but that was the artist's choice and the art has been approved that way, so whatever. I think my biggest beef is the text treatment. Even though I hated the Invincible cover, the text treatment was 200x better than it is on this album. You can barely read the word 'Michael' on it. I hope it changes by the time it goes to stores.

[Edited 11/4/10 21:47pm]

It's obvious that they put it there to have people talking and looking at all the images in the collage

I think it was a smart move smile

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Reply #158 posted 11/04/10 10:37pm

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Am I the only one that loves the album cover? It looks great to me

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Reply #159 posted 11/04/10 10:46pm

Timmy84

ViintageJunkiie said:

Am I the only one that loves the album cover? It looks great to me

Hell to the NAW you're not! lol

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Reply #160 posted 11/04/10 10:51pm

Timmy84

bboy87 said:

MyLuv229 said:

You know, we never really talk about Michael the dancer.

Fan forums barely talk about the music anymore either neutral

You should see how it is at Motown forums. confused It's all about the Supremes and "Supremes fans/fams" trying to pin Diana Ross on some "evil bitch" bullshit. Diana ain't committed a crime and they stay trying to slay a motherfucker for no reason. When it does become about the music, it rarely gets any posts. neutral

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Reply #161 posted 11/04/10 11:10pm

tangerine7

I don't like the cover. I tried to like it but i just don't. but it's about the music now...more than ever to me.

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Reply #162 posted 11/04/10 11:28pm

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(some new none information in here, lol)

Return of the King

LOS ANGELES (Reuters) - A new album of previously unheard Michael Jackson songs will be released on December 14, the first such release since the pop star died last year, his Sony Music label said on Thursday.

Called simply "Michael," the album marks the latest commercial venture by Jackson's estate since the "Thriller" singer succumbed to a fatal overdose of prescription drugs in June 2009, aged 50.

But apart from revealing the album's title, regal artwork, and the name of one track, "Breaking News," Sony Music is keeping a firm lid on the project.

A spokeswoman declined to say how many tracks were on the album, reveal any other song titles, or indicate the extent of production work that was done after Jackson's death.

The secrecy follows an embarrassing debacle last year when "This Is It," a new Jackson single touted as his first posthumous release, turned out to have been first recorded 18 years earlier under a different title by an obscure Puerto Rican singer. The song's co-writer, Paul Anka, threatened to sue Jackson's estate and was quickly assigned half the copyright.

Jackson's commercial fortunes were on the wane long before his death, though grieving fans turned him into one of the biggest selling artists last year. His last studio album, "Invincible," was a commercial and critical disappointment in 2001. But a posthumous concert film and related soundtrack album, both also called "This is It," topped the worldwide charts last November.

Sony said "Breaking News" was recorded at a friend's place in New Jersey in 2007 and "recently brought to completion." Beginning next Monday, it will be streamed for one week on the www.michaeljackson.comwebsite.

Other tracks were recorded at studios in Las Vegas and Los Angeles with various unidentified collaborators, Sony Music said. At the time of his death, Jackson was reported to be working with contemporary hitmakers like R&B star Akon and Lady Gaga collaborator RedOne.

The album cover artwork features two naked cherubs placing a crown on Jackson's head against a mural depicting the singer throughout his career. It was created by painter Kadir Nelson.

The executors of Jackson's estate have been busy extracting value from the singer's catalogue, both to pay off his debts and to provide for his mother and children. Other projects in the works include a Jackson-themed Cirque du Soleil tour that will open in Montreal next October, and a dance videogame due in stores later this month.

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Reply #163 posted 11/04/10 11:28pm

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ViintageJunkiie said:

Am I the only one that loves the album cover? It looks great to me

and they got the baby hair right!

wipes tear

lol

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Reply #164 posted 11/04/10 11:28pm

motownlover

breaking news , is that a cascio track ? or buxter ?

album cover probally something mike would have liked , in the sence of causing controversy like in the 80s heydays and people talking about it . good or bad

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Reply #165 posted 11/04/10 11:32pm

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motownlover said:

breaking news , is that a cascio track ? or buxter ?

album cover probally something mike would have liked , in the sence of causing controversy like in the 80s heydays and people talking about it . good or bad

It's a Cascio track

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Reply #166 posted 11/05/10 12:01am

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THE J5 COLLECTION LAUNCHES MUSIC INSPIRED FASHION LINE PAYING TRIBUTE TO INTERNATIONAL MEGA GROUP, THE JACKSON 5

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Los Angeles, CA. – November 4, 2010 – The first family of music, the Jacksons, introduce their highly anticipated, music-inspired collection of fashion t-shirts and limited edition leather jackets, in honor of legendary pop-music pioneers, The Jackson 5. As a tribute to the iconic mega group, the line combines vintage images, spanning 4 decades of music legacy, with on-trend cuts to deliver a fresh, fashionable collection.

Based and produced in Los Angeles, the J5 Collection offers men’s and women’s styles featuring 24 varying vintage images and illustrations representative of the Rock & Roll Hall of Famers. Images dating from the 60’s, such as the Jackson 5’s first newspaper article, to the 70’s Afro funk graphics, all the way up to official art from the 80’s biggest concert tour, the 1984 world Victory Tour, J5 Collection captures the essence of one of the most iconic families of all time.

The men’s line includes short sleeve crew tees in jersey and triblend, jersey short sleeve V-necks, and long sleeve raglans with slub bodies and jersey sleeves. For women, The J5 Collection offers raglans in short and long sleeves, racerback jersey tanks, scoop neck jersey tees, and jersey crop tees. The collection is available at an MSRP of $45-$55.

The J5 Collection also captures the “Jacksonmania” spirit with limited edition, exact replicas of the iconic “Thriller” and “Beat It” jackets that the late Michael Jackson made famous. The premium jackets are produced, down to the detail, in the design of the original jackets. The Thriller jacket design is soft red leather with black detailing and “v” design on the back. The “Beat It” jackets, in red or white leather, feature chainmail detailing, diagonal zipper designs and detachable gathered sleeves. Jackets will be offered starting at an MSRP of $900.

Following a soft August 2010 launch at Project trade show, the J5 Collection will be available in prestigious boutiques and better department stores worldwide, in late February with select styles available on the website beginning today.

The J5 Collection, officially licensed through The Jackson Estate, is a true celebration of the many accomplishments of The Jackson 5, a pop-music phenomenon that shaped rock & roll history and continues to inspire modern day music for generations to come.

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The J5 Collection, launched in August 2010, is a unique celebration of The Jackson’s achievements as an international mega group. The Los Angeles based line features vintage images and illustrations dating back to their first newspaper article, up to their 1984 Victory Tour. The line will be carried in prestigious boutiques and department stores worldwide. With over 150 million albums sold worldwide and having introduced the greatest artist of all-time, this collection is reflective of the brothers’ legacy and the inspiration of music on fashion.

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Reply #167 posted 11/05/10 12:08am

SoulAlive

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SoulAlive said:

MJ fans,I need your help.I recently ordered MJ's "Ghosts" but apparently,it's not a DVD.It's something called a VCD (video CD...basically an audio CD that also has a video on it) that is supposed to be able to play on a regular DVD player,as well as a computer.Does anyone have this? Were you able to play it on a DVD player with no problems? I bought it as a Christmas gift for my nephew.He's 15,loves Michael Jackson but has never seen this film before.

Ghosts (VCD)

Ghosts (VCD) (1997)

Michael Jackson Video CD

Price: $17.95
o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o
In Stock.
Ships from and sold by we-got-the-beats.
8 new from $15.95 5 used from $12.45


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I hope this helps a bit.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Video_CD

thanks

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Reply #168 posted 11/05/10 12:11am

SoulAlive

Vanilli said:

Risico said:

Re: Ghosts

I know you've already order the VCD (not sure how/if it can be played in a standard DVD player), but I do know that Ghosts will be included on the MJ "Visions" dvd collection coming out later this month.

I've always wanted to see Ghosts in its entirety, and it's pretty much the main reason I'll be getting that Visions DVD.

Sorry to say..the only version of Ghosts that will be on Visions is that 5 minute music video

that was (is) available on iTunes.

The VCD plays just fine in my computer and on my DVD players. (I have the same one you

bought) Should work fine.

Thanks for the info,folks thumbs up! I was considering buying the 'Visions' DVD set for my niece (who also loves MJ) but she already has a compilation DVD of MJ's music videos.

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Reply #169 posted 11/05/10 12:17am

ViintageJunkii
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bboy87 said:

ViintageJunkiie said:

Am I the only one that loves the album cover? It looks great to me

and they got the baby hair right!

wipes tear

lol

*wipes tear and shakes head to the left to move front curl off my forehead*

we need a damn track listing! and it BETTER NOT be 10 tracks. 15 will do. These are a few records i'm thinking MIGHT appear

Place With No Name

Don't Be Messin Around

Men in Black

Shout (even though it's been released)

Never Landing

Michael McKellar (only because he seemed so happy when they mentioned that song at his 93 Depo)

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Reply #170 posted 11/05/10 12:23am

bboy87

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ViintageJunkiie said:

bboy87 said:

and they got the baby hair right!

wipes tear

lol

*wipes tear and shakes head to the left to move front curl off my forehead*

we need a damn track listing! and it BETTER NOT be 10 tracks. 15 will do. These are a few records i'm thinking MIGHT appear

Place With No Name

Don't Be Messin Around

Men in Black

Shout (even though it's been released)

Never Landing

Michael McKellar (only because he seemed so happy when they mentioned that song at his 93 Depo)

I think A Place With No Name and Man In Black are gonna be on there. I also think "From The Bottom of My Heart" is gonna be on there

Bryan Loren produced Man In Black and I haven't heard anything about him working on the album so I could be wrong. Another Day is definitely gonna be on there

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Reply #171 posted 11/05/10 12:29am

ViintageJunkii
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bboy87 said:

ViintageJunkiie said:

*wipes tear and shakes head to the left to move front curl off my forehead*

we need a damn track listing! and it BETTER NOT be 10 tracks. 15 will do. These are a few records i'm thinking MIGHT appear

Place With No Name

Don't Be Messin Around

Men in Black

Shout (even though it's been released)

Never Landing

Michael McKellar (only because he seemed so happy when they mentioned that song at his 93 Depo)

I think A Place With No Name and Man In Black are gonna be on there. I also think "From The Bottom of My Heart" is gonna be on there

Bryan Loren produced Man In Black and I haven't heard anything about him working on the album so I could be wrong. Another Day is definitely gonna be on there

I forgot about Another Day. Okay so we might as well say that

Man In Black

Place With No Name

Another Day

ARE CONFIRMED! I think they're going to push towards more recent songs and not so much of outtakes from earlier sessions

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Reply #172 posted 11/05/10 1:17am

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bboy87 said:

I'm in the minority that likes the cover

But if they had used a regular photo, I would've voted for one of these

[img:$uid]http://i55.tinypic.com/5befxg.jpg[/img:$uid]

I like the cover because it looks like something MJ would like and it's similar to Dangerous but i think using the photo above would have been a GREAT choice.

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Reply #173 posted 11/05/10 1:38am

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Marrk said:

Is that R Kelly behind OTW Michael?confused

lol looks like martin luther king jr
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Reply #174 posted 11/05/10 1:39am

bboy87

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ViintageJunkiie said:

bboy87 said:

I think A Place With No Name and Man In Black are gonna be on there. I also think "From The Bottom of My Heart" is gonna be on there

Bryan Loren produced Man In Black and I haven't heard anything about him working on the album so I could be wrong. Another Day is definitely gonna be on there

I forgot about Another Day. Okay so we might as well say that

Man In Black

Place With No Name

Another Day

ARE CONFIRMED! I think they're going to push towards more recent songs and not so much of outtakes from earlier sessions

I wouldn't put Man In Black on the confirmed list just yet lol

It's from 1989-90 while it seems most of the songs (with the exception of A Place With No Name and Another Day) are from 2007-09

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Reply #175 posted 11/05/10 2:33am

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mimi07 said:

bboy87 said:

I'm in the minority that likes the cover

But if they had used a regular photo, I would've voted for one of these

[img:$uid]http://i55.tinypic.com/5befxg.jpg[/img:$uid]

I like the cover because it looks like something MJ would like and it's similar to Dangerous but i think using the photo above would have been a GREAT choice.

yeah that!

Although they are obviously going for a historical nostalgia market with both the name and the artwork. cant blame them I guess, broader market. I just don't like MJs face in this painting.

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Reply #176 posted 11/05/10 3:31am

jcurley

The album cover looks like most things relating to MJ-cheap, gaudy, end of pier tat.

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Reply #177 posted 11/05/10 3:40am

Claire73

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Reply #178 posted 11/05/10 4:34am

Swa

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ViintageJunkiie said:

bboy87 said:

and they got the baby hair right!

wipes tear

lol

*wipes tear and shakes head to the left to move front curl off my forehead*

we need a damn track listing! and it BETTER NOT be 10 tracks. 15 will do. These are a few records i'm thinking MIGHT appear

Place With No Name

Don't Be Messin Around

Men in Black

Shout (even though it's been released)

Never Landing

Michael McKellar (only because he seemed so happy when they mentioned that song at his 93 Depo)

I have a feeling that you can almost guarantee it's going to be a 10 - 12 track release, for the following reasons.

Sony will not want to blow their investment on just one album of unreleased tracks. They will release a collection of 10 or so each time I think to maximise their back catalogue and what they still have in reserve.

Additionally in order to make it feel like a cohesive album I would think 10 tracks would be ideal - we've seen how overblown some albums get when they have 16 or so songs - Invincible anyone???

As far things go I know I will be equal parts apprehensive and excited when I first listen to it. Again it's a bit of a no win situation as a fan, as I'll either love all the songs and wonder "man why didn't he release them", or I'll be like "oh man they should never have released it - they are damaging his legacy".

I figure Sony are smart enough to put a solid album together to regain people's interest in Michael's music and to also stir up the hunger for future releases. Hopefully sup par songs will not see the light of day.

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Reply #179 posted 11/05/10 5:00am

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Swa said:

ViintageJunkiie said:

*wipes tear and shakes head to the left to move front curl off my forehead*

we need a damn track listing! and it BETTER NOT be 10 tracks. 15 will do. These are a few records i'm thinking MIGHT appear

Place With No Name

Don't Be Messin Around

Men in Black

Shout (even though it's been released)

Never Landing

Michael McKellar (only because he seemed so happy when they mentioned that song at his 93 Depo)

I have a feeling that you can almost guarantee it's going to be a 10 - 12 track release, for the following reasons.

Sony will not want to blow their investment on just one album of unreleased tracks. They will release a collection of 10 or so each time I think to maximise their back catalogue and what they still have in reserve.

Additionally in order to make it feel like a cohesive album I would think 10 tracks would be ideal - we've seen how overblown some albums get when they have 16 or so songs - Invincible anyone???

As far things go I know I will be equal parts apprehensive and excited when I first listen to it. Again it's a bit of a no win situation as a fan, as I'll either love all the songs and wonder "man why didn't he release them", or I'll be like "oh man they should never have released it - they are damaging his legacy".

I figure Sony are smart enough to put a solid album together to regain people's interest in Michael's music and to also stir up the hunger for future releases. Hopefully sup par songs will not see the light of day.

I don't care, i just want to hear him singing something 'new'. I've missed that the most, his vocals, the little things too, the hiccups, Wooo's and Hee Hee's. That's why i enjoyed the Ultimate Collection when it came out, there was an albums worth of 'new' on there.

I can't wait.biggrin

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