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Thread started 10/05/10 4:41pm

mrjun18

"I'm Every Woman" better version... Whitney or Chaka?

Personally, I think Whitney took a hot song and made it even hotter mainly because of the vocals and the dance-like production... but that's just me. What y'all say?

Reply #1 posted 10/05/10 5:08pm

SoulAlive

Chaka!! lol

Reply #2 posted 10/05/10 5:10pm

kitbradley

Unlike "I Will Always Love You", Nippy did not bring anything new to the table with her cover of "I'm Every Woman". While it's always nice to hear someone attempt a Chaka Khan song, I must agree with what Anita Baker once said on her decision not to cover "Smokin' Room", once Chaka Khan has touched a song, there's nothing else you can do with it.

"It's not nice to fuck with K.B.! All you haters will see!" - Kitbradley
Reply #3 posted 10/05/10 5:26pm

BklynBabe

Chaka! That's why Whitney put her in the video.
Reply #4 posted 10/05/10 5:29pm

nursev

Chaka Khan wink

Reply #5 posted 10/05/10 5:33pm

Timmy84

Do we have to go through this again? lol

YVETTE MARIE STEVENS AKA CHAKA KHAN'S of course, DUH! lol

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Reply #6 posted 10/05/10 5:38pm

nursev

Timmy84 said:

Do we have to go through this again? lol

YVETTE MARIE STEVENS AKA CHAKA KHAN'S of course, DUH! lol

falloff

Reply #7 posted 10/05/10 5:39pm

mrjun18

BklynBabe said:

Chaka! That's why Whitney put her in the video.

lol...

Reply #8 posted 10/05/10 8:49pm

luv4u

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Whitney Houston - The Body Guard was a good movie nod

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Reply #9 posted 10/05/10 9:02pm

Timmy84

luv4u said:

Whitney Houston - The Body Guard was a good movie nod

Seriously though Whitney's version was okay (I loved the intro, that was the only new part to the song) but that (and the movie) were just okay... I watched that strictly because I was into Kevin Costner's films at the time lol

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Reply #10 posted 10/05/10 10:04pm

sosgemini

Space for sale...
Reply #11 posted 10/05/10 10:10pm

trueiopian

I prefer Whitney's version.

Reply #12 posted 10/05/10 10:16pm

Timmy84

Ms. Andrea's gonna make a fool outta this thread... evillol

"You were born free, you got fucked out of half of it, and you wave a flag celebrating it." -- Doug Stanhope flag


"I don't sound like nobody." -- Elvis Presley
Reply #13 posted 10/05/10 10:35pm

Harlepolis

sosgemini said:

spit OMG falloff That is soooooo adorable mushy

Reply #14 posted 10/05/10 10:37pm

Timmy84

sosgemini said:

lol

"You were born free, you got fucked out of half of it, and you wave a flag celebrating it." -- Doug Stanhope flag


"I don't sound like nobody." -- Elvis Presley
Reply #15 posted 10/06/10 1:07am

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Reply #16 posted 10/06/10 2:03am

deebee

Chaka overall, of course. But the soulful intro on Whitney's version is nice, particularly on live versions like this one with Whitney and Chaka, where they really 'lean into it' and build up the anticipation before going into the song.

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Reply #17 posted 10/06/10 3:12am

leecappella

There likely wouldn't be a Whitney cover of I'm Every Woman without a Chaka original. However, when I choose to listen to the song, I normally go for Whitney's version.

[Edited 10/6/10 3:13am]

Reply #18 posted 10/06/10 4:29am

shorttrini

Chaka's version, overall. That being said, the house mixes of Whitney's version, are off the chain...

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Reply #19 posted 10/06/10 4:40am

missfee

No doubt Whitney did an excellent job of it...but hands down Chaka's version is the best.

Long live Richard Harrow. worship
Reply #20 posted 10/06/10 4:51am

littleredcorvette

CHAKA biggrin

Reply #21 posted 10/06/10 5:26am

zhare

i like both smile
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Reply #22 posted 10/06/10 6:25am

Caramelpfe

Chaka all the way worship

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Reply #23 posted 10/06/10 6:28am

vainandy

Any version of any song by any artist is better than a version by Shitney. Hell, even the old ass original version of "The Star Spangled Banner" from the 1700s or 1800s is better than hers. lol

Andy is a four letter word.
Reply #24 posted 10/06/10 6:32am

vainandy

luv4u said:

Whitney Houston - The Body Guard was a good movie nod

I loved it. Watching her run for her life always put me in a good mood. evillol

Andy is a four letter word.
Reply #25 posted 10/06/10 6:33am

Rayan

vainandy said:

even the old ass original version of "The Star Spangled Banner" from the 1700s or 1800s is better than hers. lol

falloff

"what's that book where they're all behind the wardrobe?"
Reply #26 posted 10/06/10 6:56am

uPtoWnNY

Not even up for debate. Chaka shits all over Whitney's version.

Reply #27 posted 10/06/10 7:15am

UptownCitizen

uPtoWnNY said:

Not even up for debate. Chaka shits all over Whitney's version.

yeahthat those backgrounds, the overall production - CHAKA! ... no contest.

But Whitney's version is an homage and I always appreciate that.

Reply #28 posted 10/06/10 7:30am

Dewrede

both suck because the song itself sucks

self indulgent pompous lyrics meh bored

i never liked the song sorry

[Edited 10/6/10 8:19am]

Reply #29 posted 10/06/10 8:03am

missfee

vainandy said:

luv4u said:

Whitney Houston - The Body Guard was a good movie nod

I loved it. Watching her run for her life always put me in a good mood. evillol

lol lol

Long live Richard Harrow. worship
Reply #30 posted 10/06/10 8:29am

SoulAlive

vainandy said:

luv4u said:

Whitney Houston - The Body Guard was a good movie nod

I loved it. Watching her run for her life always put me in a good mood. evillol

lol

Reply #31 posted 10/06/10 9:34am

sextonseven

Three votes for Whitney's version so far? That's three votes more than I expected.

CHAKA

Reply #32 posted 10/06/10 9:50am

ernestsewell

Chaka. Whitney's cover is fine of course, but on something like that - there's nothing ever like the original.

Reply #33 posted 10/06/10 10:02am

Timmy84

sextonseven said:

Three votes for Whitney's version so far? That's three votes more than I expected.

CHAKA

lol

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"I don't sound like nobody." -- Elvis Presley
Reply #34 posted 10/06/10 10:03am

Timmy84

vainandy said:

luv4u said:

Whitney Houston - The Body Guard was a good movie nod

I loved it. Watching her run for her life always put me in a good mood. evillol

spit

"You were born free, you got fucked out of half of it, and you wave a flag celebrating it." -- Doug Stanhope flag


"I don't sound like nobody." -- Elvis Presley
Reply #35 posted 10/06/10 5:09pm

kitbradley

vainandy said:

Any version of any song by any artist is better than a version by Shitney. Hell, even the old ass original version of "The Star Spangled Banner" from the 1700s or 1800s is better than hers. lol

lol lol lol lol lol

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Reply #36 posted 10/06/10 5:34pm

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy

Whitney's is more accessible but you can't front the QUEEN on this jam! talk to the hand

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Reply #37 posted 10/06/10 5:43pm

UptownCitizen

Did you know that Whitney also sang on the original?

Reply #38 posted 10/06/10 8:45pm

Timmy84

UptownCitizen said:

Did you know that Whitney also sang on the original?

That's like Divas 101, man. lol Yeah I knew that around '93 or '94 or somewhere around there. That's when I first heard that Whitney began singing background for the likes of Chaka. Whitney and two other guys (I presume musicians from the session) sung together. Chaka did the rest of the backgrounds (obviously that's just her going I'M EVERY WOMAN at the end). I think Whitney was doing the "whoa-whoa-whoa..." refrains and parts of the original chorus.

"You were born free, you got fucked out of half of it, and you wave a flag celebrating it." -- Doug Stanhope flag


"I don't sound like nobody." -- Elvis Presley
Reply #39 posted 10/06/10 8:45pm

Timmy84

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

Whitney's is more accessible but you can't front the QUEEN on this jam! talk to the hand

yeahthat

"You were born free, you got fucked out of half of it, and you wave a flag celebrating it." -- Doug Stanhope flag


"I don't sound like nobody." -- Elvis Presley
Reply #40 posted 10/06/10 10:09pm

Superstition

Chaka with Prince, Stevie and Yolanda.

Beats 'em all.

[Edited 10/6/10 22:10pm]

Reply #41 posted 10/07/10 6:22am

therevolutionwillnotbe

UptownCitizen said:

Did you know that Whitney also sang on the original?

I don't hear Whitney anywhere on Chaka's recording of IEW. She's very audible on "Clouds" and "Our Love is in Danger".
Reply #42 posted 10/07/10 6:33am

NMuzakNSoul

Uhm...

Chaka of course

[Edited 10/7/10 6:34am]

Reply #43 posted 10/07/10 6:57am

Harlepolis

NMuzakNSoul said:

spit

I second that emotion.

And you look so damn adorable mushy

Reply #44 posted 10/07/10 7:11am

NMuzakNSoul

Harlepolis said:

NMuzakNSoul said:

spit

I second that emotion.

And you look so damn adorable mushy

thank you aisha...rose

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Reply #45 posted 10/07/10 7:13am

NMuzakNSoul

Superstition said:

Chaka with Prince, Stevie and Yolanda.

Beats 'em all.

[Edited 10/6/10 22:10pm]

yeah man...mr. blues rhythm cool

love that stevie and p stayed to jam on that tune as well

Reply #46 posted 10/07/10 8:33am

Timmy84

NMuzakNSoul said:

Uhm...

Chaka of course

[Edited 10/7/10 6:34am]

lol cool

"You were born free, you got fucked out of half of it, and you wave a flag celebrating it." -- Doug Stanhope flag


"I don't sound like nobody." -- Elvis Presley
Reply #47 posted 10/07/10 9:57am

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy

Timmy84 said:

UptownCitizen said:

Did you know that Whitney also sang on the original?

That's like Divas 101, man. lol Yeah I knew that around '93 or '94 or somewhere around there. That's when I first heard that Whitney began singing background for the likes of Chaka. Whitney and two other guys (I presume musicians from the session) sung together. Chaka did the rest of the backgrounds (obviously that's just her going I'M EVERY WOMAN at the end). I think Whitney was doing the "whoa-whoa-whoa..." refrains and parts of the original chorus.

I failed this course because I had no idea! boxed lol

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Reply #48 posted 10/07/10 9:59am

Empress

Chaka of course, but Whitney's version is pretty damn good.

Reply #49 posted 10/07/10 10:01am

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy

Superstition said:

Chaka with Prince, Stevie and Yolanda.

Beats 'em all.

[Edited 10/6/10 22:10pm]

faint

OMG! I haven't had cable in 10 years. I miss everything! bawl

That was hot! biggrin clapping

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Reply #50 posted 10/07/10 10:55am

PoppyBros

i enjoy both.

Reply #51 posted 10/07/10 11:00am

DAV123

Superstition said:

Chaka with Prince, Stevie

and Yolanda.

Beats 'em all.

[Edited 10/6/10 22:10pm]

Ok.....long pause.......deep breathe......

CHAKA

...hands down!!!!!

Now with THAT said Chaka's voice is like no other.....Don't get me wrong I like Whitney's remix only because she has the pipes to pull it off and she pretty much kept to the original.....

Side track------Prince at 1:55----do ya'll see my baby getting it in...love that!

In the NJ/NY house clubs there is anticipation to hear Chaka get to the bridge...I mean that part is mind boggling...it just CHAKA at her best..whew let me shake to goosebumps.

Also there is a looped track of Clouds that sometimes I hear...they only looped the part where she just wails in the song....let me tell you something if you have NEVER heard this version then you haven't felt what it's like to be in pure bliss at a house club....OMFG...when dat shit comes on you would swear the Alvin Ailey dancers dropped out of the ceiling...WHAT!!!!! Fuck what ya heard until you experience this shit!

[Edited 10/7/10 11:02am]

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Reply #52 posted 10/07/10 11:02am

HonestMan13

I'm kind of feeling Drake's version.

dancing jig

Sorry, wrong thread.

lol

Prince fans. They'll say something is shit outright, still support it and then somehow blame someone else they had to deal with it.
Reply #53 posted 10/07/10 11:40am

AKABubbleup

sextonseven said:

Three votes for Whitney's version so far? That's three votes more than I expected.

CHAKA

Chaka, and I'd be flabberasted if those Whitney votes weren't nullified on the chance they were to re-perform the song 'today'.

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Reply #54 posted 10/07/10 12:38pm

TonyVanDam

Chaka.

Reply #55 posted 10/07/10 1:10pm

Bulldog

I'm giving props to Ashford & Simpson for writing the song and Arif Mardin for an outstanding production and arrangement!

dancing jig clapping

Reply #56 posted 10/07/10 1:16pm

jiorjios

Chaka (although Whitney's version is also good but still the inferior one)

Reply #57 posted 10/07/10 1:28pm

Timmy84

AKABubbleup said:

sextonseven said:

Three votes for Whitney's version so far? That's three votes more than I expected.

CHAKA

Chaka, and I'd be flabberasted if those Whitney votes weren't nullified on the chance they were to re-perform the song 'today'.

Unfortunately for Whitney she can't even sing that song anymore because of... well you know. confused

"You were born free, you got fucked out of half of it, and you wave a flag celebrating it." -- Doug Stanhope flag


"I don't sound like nobody." -- Elvis Presley
Reply #58 posted 10/07/10 1:43pm

purplethunder3121

Duh! Chaka Khan, of course! eek

No, it's about resurrection...
Reply #59 posted 10/07/10 2:29pm

Babydubistzuschnell

I like both versions.

I especially like the slowed down opening of Whitney's version.

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Reply #60 posted 10/07/10 2:32pm

Timmy84

Babydubistzuschnell said:

I like both versions.

I especially like the slowed down opening of Whitney's version.

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"You were born free, you got fucked out of half of it, and you wave a flag celebrating it." -- Doug Stanhope flag


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Reply #61 posted 10/07/10 3:48pm

DesireeNevermind

BklynBabe said:

Chaka! That's why Whitney put her in the video.

Nobody wanted to see Whitney's pregnant ass. That's why Chaka was in there and Ashford and Pimpson and TLC. Shit she needed all the help she could get.

I hate Whitney's version btw. Chaka owns this song and her video is superior as well.

Nobody should ever cover a Chaka Khan song. You're better off wearing a sign on your head that says " I AM INFERIOR TO CHAKA KHAN AND YOU ALL KNOW IT!"

lol lol

Reply #62 posted 10/07/10 3:53pm

Vendetta1

Whitney sings it almost exactly like Chaka. She added nothing to the song.

Reply #63 posted 10/07/10 4:02pm

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy

Vendetta1 said:

Whitney sings it almost exactly like Chaka. She added nothing to the song.

At least she didn't make a fool of herself. Was the best she could do lol

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Reply #64 posted 10/08/10 3:01am

leecappella

vainandy said:

luv4u said:

Whitney Houston - The Body Guard was a good movie nod

I loved it. Watching her run for her life always put me in a good mood. evillol

Hopefully, no one is watching and laughing if you ever have to run for yours. evillol

Reply #65 posted 10/08/10 3:06am

leecappella

Superstition said:

Chaka with Prince, Stevie and Yolanda.

Beats 'em all.

[Edited 10/6/10 22:10pm]

Yolanda actually sang the part I expected Chaka to sing: "I got! I-I-I-I got it, yeah....I-I-I..."

Reply #66 posted 10/08/10 7:07am

pacey68

UptownCitizen said:

Did you know that Whitney also sang on the original?

True, young Whitney sang backing vocals on Chaka's original.... then Chaka returned the favour on Whitney's version.

In answer to the original question: CHAKA

Reply #67 posted 10/08/10 9:05am

Timmy84

leecappella said:

Superstition said:

Chaka with Prince, Stevie and Yolanda.

Beats 'em all.

[Edited 10/6/10 22:10pm]

Yolanda actually sang the part I expected Chaka to sing: "I got! I-I-I-I got it, yeah....I-I-I..."

I wanted to kick Yolanda's ass when she did that. rolleyes How dare her! lol

"You were born free, you got fucked out of half of it, and you wave a flag celebrating it." -- Doug Stanhope flag


"I don't sound like nobody." -- Elvis Presley
Reply #68 posted 10/08/10 9:06am

Timmy84

pacey68 said:

UptownCitizen said:

Did you know that Whitney also sang on the original?

True, young Whitney sang backing vocals on Chaka's original.... then Chaka returned the favour on Whitney's version.

In answer to the original question: CHAKA

As far as I know, only thing Chaka did was show up on the video to Whitney's version. I don't think she sang backup on Whitney's version lol

"You were born free, you got fucked out of half of it, and you wave a flag celebrating it." -- Doug Stanhope flag


"I don't sound like nobody." -- Elvis Presley
Reply #69 posted 10/08/10 1:18pm

Harlepolis

Timmy84 said:

pacey68 said:

True, young Whitney sang backing vocals on Chaka's original.... then Chaka returned the favour on Whitney's version.

In answer to the original question: CHAKA

As far as I know, only thing Chaka did was show up on the video to Whitney's version. I don't think she sang backup on Whitney's version lol

Not even close lol

She did a "Blues & Soul" interview back in 1992 where she said "How come the bitch won't sing something original for a change?".

That was prior to the video, I'm guessing her cameo was Nippy's way to make amends, show respect or whatever.

Reply #70 posted 10/08/10 1:23pm

vainandy

Harlepolis said:

Timmy84 said:

As far as I know, only thing Chaka did was show up on the video to Whitney's version. I don't think she sang backup on Whitney's version lol

Not even close lol

She did a "Blues & Soul" interview back in 1992 where she said "How come the bitch won't sing something original for a change?".

That was prior to the video, I'm guessing her cameo was Nippy's way to make amends, show respect or whatever.

falloff evillol

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Reply #71 posted 10/08/10 1:23pm

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy

Harlepolis said:

Timmy84 said:

As far as I know, only thing Chaka did was show up on the video to Whitney's version. I don't think she sang backup on Whitney's version lol

Not even close lol

She did a "Blues & Soul" interview back in 1992 where she said "How come the bitch won't sing something original for a change?".

That was prior to the video, I'm guessing her cameo was Nippy's way to make amends, show respect or whatever.

Or, like a cat pissing on and marking her territory! lol

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Reply #72 posted 10/08/10 1:31pm

MickyDolenz

Bulldog said:

I'm giving props to Ashford & Simpson for writing the song and Arif Mardin for an outstanding production and arrangement!

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Reply #73 posted 10/08/10 1:46pm

Timmy84

Harlepolis said:

Timmy84 said:

As far as I know, only thing Chaka did was show up on the video to Whitney's version. I don't think she sang backup on Whitney's version lol

Not even close lol

She did a "Blues & Soul" interview back in 1992 where she said "How come the bitch won't sing something original for a change?".

That was prior to the video, I'm guessing her cameo was Nippy's way to make amends, show respect or whatever.

evillol

"You were born free, you got fucked out of half of it, and you wave a flag celebrating it." -- Doug Stanhope flag


"I don't sound like nobody." -- Elvis Presley
Reply #74 posted 10/08/10 1:49pm

NMuzakNSoul

Harlepolis said:

Timmy84 said:

As far as I know, only thing Chaka did was show up on the video to Whitney's version. I don't think she sang backup on Whitney's version lol

Not even close lol

She did a "Blues & Soul" interview back in 1992 where she said "How come the bitch won't sing something original for a change?".

That was prior to the video, I'm guessing her cameo was Nippy's way to make amends, show respect or whatever.

lol

Reply #75 posted 10/08/10 2:15pm

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy

Watch out y'all. Mickey Dolenz is on the scene lol wink

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Reply #76 posted 10/08/10 2:17pm

Cerebus

boxed Never liked any version of this song... other than the deep "whoa.. whoa... whooooooa" part.

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Reply #77 posted 10/08/10 2:23pm

Timmy84

Cerebus said:

boxed Never liked any version of this song... other than the deep "whoa.. whoa... whooooooa" part.

"You were born free, you got fucked out of half of it, and you wave a flag celebrating it." -- Doug Stanhope flag


"I don't sound like nobody." -- Elvis Presley
Reply #78 posted 10/08/10 2:27pm

Cerebus

Timmy84 said:

Cerebus said:

boxed Never liked any version of this song... other than the deep "whoa.. whoa... whooooooa" part.

lol I expected that. I almost posted a couple times and then decided to skip it. I dig Chaka (just not this song), but I've never been a Whitney fan. I wasn't really listening to a lot of that kind of music during her heyday.

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Reply #79 posted 10/08/10 2:28pm

Timmy84

Cerebus said:

Timmy84 said:

lol I expected that. I almost posted a couple times and then decided to skip it. I dig Chaka (just not this song), but I've never been a Whitney fan. I wasn't really listening to a lot of that kind of music during her heyday.

lol I feel ya though.

"You were born free, you got fucked out of half of it, and you wave a flag celebrating it." -- Doug Stanhope flag


"I don't sound like nobody." -- Elvis Presley
Reply #80 posted 10/08/10 4:01pm

purplethunder3121

C'mon, is there really a choice between Quitney Houston or Chaka "Keep on Goin'" Khan?! None whatsoever IMO! cool

No, it's about resurrection...
Reply #81 posted 10/08/10 4:18pm

kitbradley

The really sad thing is the younger generations strongly associate this song more with Nippy than they do with Chaka. The same goes for Mary J's version of "Sweet Thing". I can't stand hearing Chaka sing these songs live anymore but I guess she has to in order to remind folk where these tunes originated from.

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Reply #82 posted 10/08/10 4:45pm

purplethunder3121

kitbradley said:

The really sad thing is the younger generations strongly associate this song more with Nippy than they do with Chaka. The same goes for Mary J's version of "Sweet Thing". I can't stand hearing Chaka sing these songs live anymore but I guess she has to in order to remind folk where these tunes originated from.

Why can't you stand Chaka singing these songs anymore? eek Granted, her voice may be lower than it once was in her prime but she can still sing and does so very well still! So, I'm puzzled by your statement... :scratch head:

No, it's about resurrection...
Reply #83 posted 10/08/10 4:50pm

prodigalfan

vainandy said:

Any version of any song by any artist is better than a version by Shitney. Hell, even the old ass original version of "The Star Spangled Banner" from the 1700s or 1800s is better than hers. lol

now that is cold Andy lol

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Reply #84 posted 10/08/10 4:59pm

Timmy84

kitbradley said:

The really sad thing is the younger generations strongly associate this song more with Nippy than they do with Chaka. The same goes for Mary J's version of "Sweet Thing". I can't stand hearing Chaka sing these songs live anymore but I guess she has to in order to remind folk where these tunes originated from.

HEY HEY HEY!

Don't generalize my generation, man. lol

I NEVER in my LIFE will associate "I'm Every Woman" to Nippy. NEVER HAVE, NEVER WILL! Same with "Sweet Thing". It's not Mary J.'s song, it's Chaka's.

FUCK WHAT YOU HEARD!


And SHE HAS TO, WHY NOT!? lol

"You were born free, you got fucked out of half of it, and you wave a flag celebrating it." -- Doug Stanhope flag


"I don't sound like nobody." -- Elvis Presley
Reply #85 posted 10/08/10 5:34pm

kitbradley

purplethunder3121 said:

kitbradley said:

The really sad thing is the younger generations strongly associate this song more with Nippy than they do with Chaka. The same goes for Mary J's version of "Sweet Thing". I can't stand hearing Chaka sing these songs live anymore but I guess she has to in order to remind folk where these tunes originated from.

Why can't you stand Chaka singing these songs anymore? eek Granted, her voice may be lower than it once was in her prime but she can still sing and does so very well still! So, I'm puzzled by your statement... :scratch head:

No, her voice is fine. It's just that whenever she makes a television appearance, she's so predictable. She's either going to sing "IEW" or "Ain't Nobody" or both and she has worn those songs OUT!!! That's why I say I can't stand hearing her sing them. I know these are songs the massess are familiar with but most of her fans who have been following her for years want to hear her sing other songs from her incredibly vast catalog. 27 years of hearing her perform "Ain't Nobody" over and over and over again, it's just grown really old. It's like, "Oh God! Not again!!!" smile

[Edited 10/8/10 17:36pm]

"It's not nice to fuck with K.B.! All you haters will see!" - Kitbradley
Reply #86 posted 10/08/10 5:37pm

kitbradley

Timmy84 said:

kitbradley said:

The really sad thing is the younger generations strongly associate this song more with Nippy than they do with Chaka. The same goes for Mary J's version of "Sweet Thing". I can't stand hearing Chaka sing these songs live anymore but I guess she has to in order to remind folk where these tunes originated from.

HEY HEY HEY!

Don't generalize my generation, man. lol

I NEVER in my LIFE will associate "I'm Every Woman" to Nippy. NEVER HAVE, NEVER WILL! Same with "Sweet Thing". It's not Mary J.'s song, it's Chaka's.

FUCK WHAT YOU HEARD!


And SHE HAS TO, WHY NOT!? lol

I hear you, bro! But, I can't tell you how many times I've read or heard on shows like American Idol where "IEW" being referred to as Nippy's song.mad I work with a gal in her late 20's and she told me she's heard the name Chaka Khan but she doesn't know any of her songs. I asked her has she every heard of "I'm Every Woman" or "Sweet Thing" and she told me "Yes" and I said, "Well, those are Chaka Khan songs."

[Edited 10/8/10 17:40pm]

"It's not nice to fuck with K.B.! All you haters will see!" - Kitbradley
Reply #87 posted 10/08/10 5:41pm

Timmy84

kitbradley said:

Timmy84 said:

HEY HEY HEY!

Don't generalize my generation, man. lol

I NEVER in my LIFE will associate "I'm Every Woman" to Nippy. NEVER HAVE, NEVER WILL! Same with "Sweet Thing". It's not Mary J.'s song, it's Chaka's.

FUCK WHAT YOU HEARD!


And SHE HAS TO, WHY NOT!? lol

I hear you, bro! But, I can't tell you how many times I've read or heard on shows like American Idol where "IEW" being referred to as Nippy's song.mad I work with a gal in her late 20's and she told me she's heard the name Chaka Khan but she doesn't know any of her songs. I asked her has she every heard of "I'm Every Woman" or "Sweet Thing" and she told me "Yes" and I said, "Well, those are Chaka Khan songs."

[Edited 10/8/10 17:40pm]

I'm thinking she's just illiterate. confused

"You were born free, you got fucked out of half of it, and you wave a flag celebrating it." -- Doug Stanhope flag


"I don't sound like nobody." -- Elvis Presley
Reply #88 posted 10/08/10 5:44pm

Timmy84

kitbradley said:

purplethunder3121 said:

Why can't you stand Chaka singing these songs anymore? eek Granted, her voice may be lower than it once was in her prime but she can still sing and does so very well still! So, I'm puzzled by your statement... :scratch head:

No, her voice is fine. It's just that whenever she makes a television appearance, she's so predictable. She's either going to sing "IEW" or "Ain't Nobody" or both and she has worn those songs OUT!!! That's why I say I can't stand hearing her sing them. I know these are songs the massess are familiar with but most of her fans who have been following her for years want to hear her sing other songs from her incredibly vast catalog. 27 years of hearing her perform "Ain't Nobody" over and over and over again, it's just grown really old. It's like, "Oh God! Not again!!!" smile

[Edited 10/8/10 17:36pm]

I feel ya.

"You were born free, you got fucked out of half of it, and you wave a flag celebrating it." -- Doug Stanhope flag


"I don't sound like nobody." -- Elvis Presley
Reply #89 posted 10/08/10 6:25pm

prodigalfan

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

Timmy84 said:

That's like Divas 101, man. lol Yeah I knew that around '93 or '94 or somewhere around there. That's when I first heard that Whitney began singing background for the likes of Chaka. Whitney and two other guys (I presume musicians from the session) sung together. Chaka did the rest of the backgrounds (obviously that's just her going I'M EVERY WOMAN at the end). I think Whitney was doing the "whoa-whoa-whoa..." refrains and parts of the original chorus.

I failed this course because I had no idea! boxed lol

me either

I vote for Chaka of course. Although, I give Whitney credit... she is the ONLY one who covered Chaka that I can actually listen to.

"Remember, one man's filler is another man's killer" -- Haystack
Reply #90 posted 10/08/10 6:32pm

prodigalfan

Bulldog said:

I'm giving props to Ashford & Simpson for writing the song and Arif Mardin for an outstanding production and arrangement!

dancing jig clapping

I second that.

"Remember, one man's filler is another man's killer" -- Haystack
Reply #91 posted 10/08/10 7:29pm

purplethunder3121

kitbradley said:

purplethunder3121 said:

Why can't you stand Chaka singing these songs anymore? eek Granted, her voice may be lower than it once was in her prime but she can still sing and does so very well still! So, I'm puzzled by your statement... :scratch head:

No, her voice is fine. It's just that whenever she makes a television appearance, she's so predictable. She's either going to sing "IEW" or "Ain't Nobody" or both and she has worn those songs OUT!!! That's why I say I can't stand hearing her sing them. I know these are songs the massess are familiar with but most of her fans who have been following her for years want to hear her sing other songs from her incredibly vast catalog. 27 years of hearing her perform "Ain't Nobody" over and over and over again, it's just grown really old. It's like, "Oh God! Not again!!!" smile

[Edited 10/8/10 17:36pm]

I'll give you that--I would love to hear Chaka Khan show a wider audience her substantial jazz skills as well as the old songs she is known for. Just as long as you are not faulting her "chops!" She can still belt out great R&B, jazz, etc....maybe in a lower key...but oh! the Voice! biggrin

No, it's about resurrection...
Reply #92 posted 10/08/10 9:11pm

Timmy84

purplethunder3121 said:

kitbradley said:

No, her voice is fine. It's just that whenever she makes a television appearance, she's so predictable. She's either going to sing "IEW" or "Ain't Nobody" or both and she has worn those songs OUT!!! That's why I say I can't stand hearing her sing them. I know these are songs the massess are familiar with but most of her fans who have been following her for years want to hear her sing other songs from her incredibly vast catalog. 27 years of hearing her perform "Ain't Nobody" over and over and over again, it's just grown really old. It's like, "Oh God! Not again!!!" smile

[Edited 10/8/10 17:36pm]

I'll give you that--I would love to hear Chaka Khan show a wider audience her substantial jazz skills as well as the old songs she is known for. Just as long as you are not faulting her "chops!" She can still belt out great R&B, jazz, etc....maybe in a lower key...but oh! the Voice! biggrin

That woman's so diverse it's crazy... whew

"You were born free, you got fucked out of half of it, and you wave a flag celebrating it." -- Doug Stanhope flag


"I don't sound like nobody." -- Elvis Presley
Reply #93 posted 10/08/10 10:08pm

Dewrede

Cerebus said:

boxed Never liked any version of this song... other than the deep "whoa.. whoa... whooooooa" part.

finally someone who agrees smile

Reply #94 posted 10/09/10 2:56am

Harlepolis

Wow,,,,,this is the first time I hear somebody point their dislike about the song.

I mean...

I can cast a spell

With secrets you can't tell
Mix a special brew
Put fire inside of you.
Any time you feel danger or fear
Instantly I will appear

How can anybody dislike that? smile It has a subliminal empowering message,,,and I could def sense that Ashford & Simpson took afew ideas from Maya Angelou's notebook.

To me, what I love most about it was the fact that it was one of the few songs(sung by a woman, and a soul singer mind you) at the time, where she didn't dwell or lament about "her man" leaving her, or that she needed to fight "other women" off him to keep him, in fact, this time, the woman seemed to be the one who assumed the self-possessed role. It defied the normal cliche, and for once, somebody realized that the sky's the limit when it comes to storytelling.

Ironically, Ashford & Simpson did a COMPLETE flip-side when they wrote "Keep Away Girls" for Ms.Stephanie Mills lol

Reply #95 posted 10/09/10 3:29am

Shango

UptownCitizen said:

Did you know that Whitney also sang on the original?

i wonder where songfacts & wiki got their info from because besides Cissy singing on a few other album tracks,

she and Whitney don't appear in the published credits of "I'm Every Woman". Only Chaka is credited for all the background vocals.

Did Whitney or Cissy confirm this themselves ? I can imagine though that Cissy brought Whitney with her to the studio.

I'm Every Woman by Chaka Khan Songfacts

I'm Every Woman - Wikiped...cyclopedia

Chaka Khan - Chaka (Vinyl...at Discogs

allmusic ((( Chaka > Credits )))

A similar example i heard during an interview with Louis Johnson from the Brothers Johnson. He told that back

in the 70's he had a thing with Chaka and sang with her in the background during the recording of Parliament's

song "Flashlight", but they're not mentioned in the album credits. Liner notes also seem not always accurate.

Reply #96 posted 10/09/10 7:31am

MickyDolenz

Shango said:

A similar example i heard during an interview with Louis Johnson from the Brothers Johnson. He told that back

in the 70's he had a thing with Chaka and sang with her in the background during the recording of Parliament's

song "Flashlight", but they're not mentioned in the album credits. Liner notes also seem not always accurate.

Sometimes people ask not to be listed in the credits or use fake names to remain anonymous for different reasons like maybe the act is on another record label and the main act doesn't have to get permission from the guest performer's label to use them. The Beatles were known for this. John Lennon has gone under "Dr. Winston O' Boogie", George Harrison has done guest appearances as "Bette Y El Mysterioso", and Paul McCartney has used "Percy Thrillington". They've also used many other names. It's been said that Michael Jackson sings background vocals on the Doobie Brothers' What A Fool Believes, but he is not credited. On Minnie Riperton's Perfect Angel album, Stevie Wonder is credited as "El Toro Negro".

It's called show business for a reason. It’s 90% business and 10% show. If you don’t know your business…you’re in trouble! ~ Johnnie Taylor / Basically, music is nothing but prostitution anyway and managers are the pimps ~ Millie Jackson
Reply #97 posted 10/09/10 8:09am

kitbradley

Maybe one of the reasons why Nippy went uncredited as a background singer on "IEW" was because she was only a young kid at the time. I remember reading she was in the studio with her mom at the time and they just kind of let her join in on the chorus. It wasn't anything that was pre-arranged.

Artists contribute background vocals to songs all the time and often go uncredited for various reasons. It's even happened with Chaka. This is going way back to a really obscure song from the 70s by Bruce Fischer entitled "Red Hot". Chaka performed the background vocals on that song. It was clearly her singing and her voice was very prominent. But, due to some contractual issues, she went as uncredited in the liner notes of the album. For those of you not familiar with the song, check it out. It's really cool. She sounds very sexy! It used to be posted on youtube but I'm not sure if it still is.

"It's not nice to fuck with K.B.! All you haters will see!" - Kitbradley
Reply #98 posted 10/09/10 9:14am

Shango

^Good points in both posts^ and thanks also for both your examples cool

Reply #99 posted 10/09/10 9:57am

Timmy84

kitbradley said:

Maybe one of the reasons why Nippy went uncredited as a background singer on "IEW" was because she was only a young kid at the time. I remember reading she was in the studio with her mom at the time and they just kind of let her join in on the chorus. It wasn't anything that was pre-arranged.

Artists contribute background vocals to songs all the time and often go uncredited for various reasons. It's even happened with Chaka. This is going way back to a really obscure song from the 70s by Bruce Fischer entitled "Red Hot". Chaka performed the background vocals on that song. It was clearly her singing and her voice was very prominent. But, due to some contractual issues, she went as uncredited in the liner notes of the album. For those of you not familiar with the song, check it out. It's really cool. She sounds very sexy! It used to be posted on youtube but I'm not sure if it still is.

Speaking of credits, Chaka applied background vocals to Steve Winwood's "Higher Love" but it was originally a duet between the two. For some reason, someone had the bright idea to take out her response back to Steve's vocals therefore just leaving the backgrounds. Technically she did get a number-one hit out of it but she ain't quite "recognized" for it I guess because of the edits.

Chaka also gets some royalties as a vocal arranger to Robert Palmer's "Addicted to Love" but the song was also originally a duet with her and Robert and Robert basically recorded a solo version. The version with Chaka and Robert is still in her former label's archives.

I think Whitney was credited for her vocals on Chaka's "Naughty" album. I think this is where the Whitney biographies stated: "By 1980, Whitney was singing background vocals for Lou Rawls, Chaka Khan and the Neville Brothers..."

So if she wasn't credited for "IEW" initially as a background vocalist, her age could've been a factor. I mean no one knew 11-year-old Barry White was on Jesse Belvin's "Goodnight My Love" for years so it makes sense (Whitney was 15 at the time).

"You were born free, you got fucked out of half of it, and you wave a flag celebrating it." -- Doug Stanhope flag


"I don't sound like nobody." -- Elvis Presley
Reply #100 posted 10/09/10 9:58am

Timmy84

Shango said:

UptownCitizen said:

Did you know that Whitney also sang on the original?

i wonder where songfacts & wiki got their info from because besides Cissy singing on a few other album tracks,

she and Whitney don't appear in the published credits of "I'm Every Woman". Only Chaka is credited for all the background vocals.

Did Whitney or Cissy confirm this themselves ? I can imagine though that Cissy brought Whitney with her to the studio.

I'm Every Woman by Chaka Khan Songfacts

I'm Every Woman - Wikiped...cyclopedia

Chaka Khan - Chaka (Vinyl...at Discogs

allmusic ((( Chaka > Credits )))

A similar example i heard during an interview with Louis Johnson from the Brothers Johnson. He told that back

in the 70's he had a thing with Chaka and sang with her in the background during the recording of Parliament's

song "Flashlight", but they're not mentioned in the album credits. Liner notes also seem not always accurate.

You know something? I thought I heard Chaka singing with them on that song especially when it got to "everybody's got their little light under the sun". Chaka's sister Taka later sung with P-Funk around that same time.

[Edited 10/9/10 10:00am]

"You were born free, you got fucked out of half of it, and you wave a flag celebrating it." -- Doug Stanhope flag


"I don't sound like nobody." -- Elvis Presley
Reply #101 posted 10/09/10 10:22am

Shango

That's cool ... i didn't know that Taka sang with the P-Funk gang though. I've read that she was part of Undisputed Truth, Dream Machine with her husband,

and she even formed a group with Chaka and a few other ladies, called The Crystalettes. More good info here : Taka Boom Bio (Part 1) Taka Boom Bio (Part 2)

And her connection with P-Funk is indeed described in that article cool

[Edited 10/9/10 10:24am]

Reply #102 posted 10/09/10 10:24am

Timmy84

Shango said:

That's cool ... i didn't know that Taka sang with the P-Funk gang though. I've read that she was part of Undisputed Truth, Dream Machine with her husband,

and she even formed a group with Chaka and a few other ladies, called The Crystalettes. More good info here : Taka Boom Bio (Part 1) Taka Boom Bio (Part 2)

Yeah according to credits on Parliament's "The Clones of Dr. Funkenstein", she's credited as one of the vocalists on it. Taka's been everywhere. biggrin I remember seeing her on Soul Train with the Undisputed Youth. You can tell she got Chaka's mannerisms and vocal style...well hell they are sisters so of course they're gonna act and sound familiar hahaha smile

"You were born free, you got fucked out of half of it, and you wave a flag celebrating it." -- Doug Stanhope flag


"I don't sound like nobody." -- Elvis Presley
Reply #103 posted 10/09/10 10:25am

Shango

lol, true that

Reply #104 posted 10/09/10 1:21pm

shorttrini

Timmy84 said:

kitbradley said:

Maybe one of the reasons why Nippy went uncredited as a background singer on "IEW" was because she was only a young kid at the time. I remember reading she was in the studio with her mom at the time and they just kind of let her join in on the chorus. It wasn't anything that was pre-arranged.

Artists contribute background vocals to songs all the time and often go uncredited for various reasons. It's even happened with Chaka. This is going way back to a really obscure song from the 70s by Bruce Fischer entitled "Red Hot". Chaka performed the background vocals on that song. It was clearly her singing and her voice was very prominent. But, due to some contractual issues, she went as uncredited in the liner notes of the album. For those of you not familiar with the song, check it out. It's really cool. She sounds very sexy! It used to be posted on youtube but I'm not sure if it still is.

Speaking of credits, Chaka applied background vocals to Steve Winwood's "Higher Love" but it was originally a duet between the two. For some reason, someone had the bright idea to take out her response back to Steve's vocals therefore just leaving the backgrounds. Technically she did get a number-one hit out of it but she ain't quite "recognized" for it I guess because of the edits.

Chaka also gets some royalties as a vocal arranger to Robert Palmer's "Addicted to Love" but the song was also originally a duet with her and Robert and Robert basically recorded a solo version. The version with Chaka and Robert is still in her former label's archives.

I think Whitney was credited for her vocals on Chaka's "Naughty" album. I think this is where the Whitney biographies stated: "By 1980, Whitney was singing background vocals for Lou Rawls, Chaka Khan and the Neville Brothers..."

So if she wasn't credited for "IEW" initially as a background vocalist, her age could've been a factor. I mean no one knew 11-year-old Barry White was on Jesse Belvin's "Goodnight My Love" for years so it makes sense (Whitney was 15 at the time).

Same thing happened to her with, "Don't Look Any Further". She was originally supposed to be a part of the duet, with Dennis but for some reason, her vocals were either replaced or she was passed up.

"Love is like peeing in your pants, everyone sees it but only you feel its warmth"
Reply #105 posted 10/09/10 1:28pm

Timmy84

shorttrini said:

Timmy84 said:

Speaking of credits, Chaka applied background vocals to Steve Winwood's "Higher Love" but it was originally a duet between the two. For some reason, someone had the bright idea to take out her response back to Steve's vocals therefore just leaving the backgrounds. Technically she did get a number-one hit out of it but she ain't quite "recognized" for it I guess because of the edits.

Chaka also gets some royalties as a vocal arranger to Robert Palmer's "Addicted to Love" but the song was also originally a duet with her and Robert and Robert basically recorded a solo version. The version with Chaka and Robert is still in her former label's archives.

I think Whitney was credited for her vocals on Chaka's "Naughty" album. I think this is where the Whitney biographies stated: "By 1980, Whitney was singing background vocals for Lou Rawls, Chaka Khan and the Neville Brothers..."

So if she wasn't credited for "IEW" initially as a background vocalist, her age could've been a factor. I mean no one knew 11-year-old Barry White was on Jesse Belvin's "Goodnight My Love" for years so it makes sense (Whitney was 15 at the time).

Same thing happened to her with, "Don't Look Any Further". She was originally supposed to be a part of the duet, with Dennis but for some reason, her vocals were either replaced or she was passed up.

According to Chaka or Dennis, she wasn't available because either she was performing at the time the song was recorded or recording an album somewhere not related to the location so someone picked Siedah.

"You were born free, you got fucked out of half of it, and you wave a flag celebrating it." -- Doug Stanhope flag


"I don't sound like nobody." -- Elvis Presley
Reply #106 posted 10/09/10 2:48pm

shorttrini

Timmy84 said:

shorttrini said:

Same thing happened to her with, "Don't Look Any Further". She was originally supposed to be a part of the duet, with Dennis but for some reason, her vocals were either replaced or she was passed up.

According to Chaka or Dennis, she wasn't available because either she was performing at the time the song was recorded or recording an album somewhere not related to the location so someone picked Siedah.

I knew that you knew the scoop, Timmy.

"Love is like peeing in your pants, everyone sees it but only you feel its warmth"
Reply #107 posted 10/09/10 2:57pm

Timmy84

shorttrini said:

Timmy84 said:

According to Chaka or Dennis, she wasn't available because either she was performing at the time the song was recorded or recording an album somewhere not related to the location so someone picked Siedah.

I knew that you knew the scoop, Timmy.

Always. cool

"You were born free, you got fucked out of half of it, and you wave a flag celebrating it." -- Doug Stanhope flag


"I don't sound like nobody." -- Elvis Presley
Reply #108 posted 10/10/10 10:05pm

psychodelicide

SoulAlive said:

Chaka!! lol

nod Chaka gets my vote too.

Reply #109 posted 10/10/10 10:06pm

psychodelicide

Timmy84 said:

Do we have to go through this again? lol

YVETTE MARIE STEVENS AKA CHAKA KHAN'S of course, DUH! lol

lol nod

Reply #110 posted 10/10/10 10:09pm

psychodelicide

vainandy said:

Any version of any song by any artist is better than a version by Shitney. Hell, even the old ass original version of "The Star Spangled Banner" from the 1700s or 1800s is better than hers. lol

spit lol

Reply #111 posted 10/10/10 10:11pm

psychodelicide

NMuzakNSoul said:

Uhm...

Chaka of course

[Edited 10/7/10 6:34am]

falloff I love it!

Reply #112 posted 10/10/10 10:14pm

psychodelicide

DesireeNevermind said:

BklynBabe said:

Chaka! That's why Whitney put her in the video.

Nobody wanted to see Whitney's pregnant ass. That's why Chaka was in there and Ashford and Pimpson and TLC. Shit she needed all the help she could get.

I hate Whitney's version btw. Chaka owns this song and her video is superior as well.

Nobody should ever cover a Chaka Khan song. You're better off wearing a sign on your head that says " I AM INFERIOR TO CHAKA KHAN AND YOU ALL KNOW IT!"

lol lol

falloff @ this whole post. lol

Reply #113 posted 10/10/10 10:59pm

psychodelicide

bboy87 said:

giggle I have a moving gif of MJ eating popcorn, but can't post it because my computer is being a fucktard right about now.

Reply #114 posted 10/10/10 11:50pm

hhhhdmt

chaka mad biggrin
Reply #115 posted 10/11/10 7:48am

sosgemini

Timmy84 said:

kitbradley said:

Maybe one of the reasons why Nippy went uncredited as a background singer on "IEW" was because she was only a young kid at the time. I remember reading she was in the studio with her mom at the time and they just kind of let her join in on the chorus. It wasn't anything that was pre-arranged.

Artists contribute background vocals to songs all the time and often go uncredited for various reasons. It's even happened with Chaka. This is going way back to a really obscure song from the 70s by Bruce Fischer entitled "Red Hot". Chaka performed the background vocals on that song. It was clearly her singing and her voice was very prominent. But, due to some contractual issues, she went as uncredited in the liner notes of the album. For those of you not familiar with the song, check it out. It's really cool. She sounds very sexy! It used to be posted on youtube but I'm not sure if it still is.

Speaking of credits, Chaka applied background vocals to Steve Winwood's "Higher Love" but it was originally a duet between the two. For some reason, someone had the bright idea to take out her response back to Steve's vocals therefore just leaving the backgrounds. Technically she did get a number-one hit out of it but she ain't quite "recognized" for it I guess because of the edits.

Chaka also gets some royalties as a vocal arranger to Robert Palmer's "Addicted to Love" but the song was also originally a duet with her and Robert and Robert basically recorded a solo version. The version with Chaka and Robert is still in her former label's archives.

I think Whitney was credited for her vocals on Chaka's "Naughty" album. I think this is where the Whitney biographies stated: "By 1980, Whitney was singing background vocals for Lou Rawls, Chaka Khan and the Neville Brothers..."

So if she wasn't credited for "IEW" initially as a background vocalist, her age could've been a factor. I mean no one knew 11-year-old Barry White was on Jesse Belvin's "Goodnight My Love" for years so it makes sense (Whitney was 15 at the time).

I thought in both these cases, the gentleman's labels would not allow them to duet. To Winwood's credit, he made the video with Chaka as a protest.

Space for sale...
Reply #116 posted 10/11/10 9:26am

Dewrede

Harlepolis said:

Wow,,,,,this is the first time I hear somebody point their dislike about the song.

I mean...

I can cast a spell

With secrets you can't tell
Mix a special brew
Put fire inside of you.
Any time you feel danger or fear
Instantly I will appear

How can anybody dislike that? smile It has a subliminal empowering message,,,and I could def sense that Ashford & Simpson took afew ideas from Maya Angelou's notebook.

To me, what I love most about it was the fact that it was one of the few songs(sung by a woman, and a soul singer mind you) at the time, where she didn't dwell or lament about "her man" leaving her, or that she needed to fight "other women" off him to keep him, in fact, this time, the woman seemed to be the one who assumed the self-possessed role. It defied the normal cliche, and for once, somebody realized that the sky's the limit when it comes to storytelling.

Ironically, Ashford & Simpson did a COMPLETE flip-side when they wrote "Keep Away Girls" for Ms.Stephanie Mills lol

it's precisely these pompous 'strong woman' lyrics that put me off lol

Reply #117 posted 10/11/10 9:32am

TD3

Chaka . . . cool

did someone else attempt to cover this song? wink

lol

Reply #118 posted 10/11/10 10:50am

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy

Timmy84 said:

Shango said:

i wonder where songfacts & wiki got their info from because besides Cissy singing on a few other album tracks,

she and Whitney don't appear in the published credits of "I'm Every Woman". Only Chaka is credited for all the background vocals.

Did Whitney or Cissy confirm this themselves ? I can imagine though that Cissy brought Whitney with her to the studio.

I'm Every Woman by Chaka Khan Songfacts

I'm Every Woman - Wikiped...cyclopedia

Chaka Khan - Chaka (Vinyl...at Discogs

allmusic ((( Chaka > Credits )))

A similar example i heard during an interview with Louis Johnson from the Brothers Johnson. He told that back

in the 70's he had a thing with Chaka and sang with her in the background during the recording of Parliament's

song "Flashlight", but they're not mentioned in the album credits. Liner notes also seem not always accurate.

You know something? I thought I heard Chaka singing with them on that song especially when it got to "everybody's got their little light under the sun". Chaka's sister Taka later sung with P-Funk around that same time.

[Edited 10/9/10 10:00am]

I'm going to have to give that jam a spin again because all these years and I aint neva heard a whif of Khan lol

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Reply #119 posted 10/12/10 1:31pm

Timmy84

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

Timmy84 said:

You know something? I thought I heard Chaka singing with them on that song especially when it got to "everybody's got their little light under the sun". Chaka's sister Taka later sung with P-Funk around that same time.

[Edited 10/9/10 10:00am]

I'm going to have to give that jam a spin again because all these years and I aint neva heard a whif of Khan lol

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Reply #120 posted 10/13/10 9:32pm

NuPwr319

MickyDolenz said:

Bulldog said:

I'm giving props to Ashford & Simpson for writing the song and Arif Mardin for an outstanding production and arrangement!

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Reply #121 posted 10/18/10 11:42pm

prodigalfan

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

Timmy84 said:

You know something? I thought I heard Chaka singing with them on that song especially when it got to "everybody's got their little light under the sun". Chaka's sister Taka later sung with P-Funk around that same time.

[Edited 10/9/10 10:00am]

I'm going to have to give that jam a spin again because all these years and I aint neva heard a whif of Khan :lol:

faint

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Reply #122 posted 10/19/10 1:32pm

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy

prodigalfan said:

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

I'm going to have to give that jam a spin again because all these years and I aint neva heard a whif of Khan :lol:

faint

OK, I hear what everyone else has heard. IT's not obvious though, the men overshadow her for once! lol

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