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Reply #120 posted 03/17/10 8:52pm

sleepyq

midiscover said:

trueiopian said:



I understand what you're saying but I disagree.

Janet's main market has always been America. It has NEVER been overseas leave that for her brother, who was the total opposite. The same can be said for Madonna and a few others. Her career hurt gratefully because of the Superbowl. Yes, she's an aging pop star and of course, ageism is a focus in America. But to say the Superbowl hurt her career a little is pure bullshit.
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BINGO!!

I always get a cackle when folks say the superbowl didn't hurt Janet's career. Her career suffered big time and so did her image. Most of her "fans" didn't come to her defense and her stupid, wack-job family didn't either. Bitches. neutral

sigh

The superbowl in itself did not ruin her career.

The way the incident was handled and the cnsequent management decisions and music releases did her in.

Ppl can bounce back from ANYTHIN. Ppl just want to jam. At the end of the day, less than 5 ppl actually gave a fuck about the tit poppin out...
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Reply #121 posted 03/17/10 8:53pm

Timmy84

I just wished Janet had went overseas to build attention over there. Instead she just languished in America. confused
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Reply #122 posted 03/17/10 8:54pm

midiscover

TD3 said:

midiscover said:




What do you mean that's my take? It's clear as the day.



OK.


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Reply #123 posted 03/17/10 8:55pm

Timmy84

Besides people overseas just rolled their eyes over the news like "so what?" Even the UK would've helped matters if she had went over there (after 2004 where she did have two UK top 20 hits with "Damita Jo" and that album did go silver there). Instead like I said it seemed like as the Super Bowel incident overshadowed her career, it just got worse and worse. I do think it played a big pivotal role in how her career tanked but I think her decisions afterwards made it impossible to make a comeback. True, she did go #1 with the last album but Def Jam didn't think of promoting it.
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Reply #124 posted 03/17/10 8:56pm

babybugz

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bored
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Reply #125 posted 03/17/10 8:56pm

midiscover

sleepyq said:

midiscover said:




BINGO!!

I always get a cackle when folks say the superbowl didn't hurt Janet's career. Her career suffered big time and so did her image. Most of her "fans" didn't come to her defense and her stupid, wack-job family didn't either. Bitches. neutral

sigh

The superbowl in itself did not ruin her career.

The way the incident was handled and the cnsequent management decisions and music releases did her in.

Ppl can bounce back from ANYTHIN. Ppl just want to jam. At the end of the day, less than 5 ppl actually gave a fuck about the tit poppin out...


Sorry, hun. That ish destroyed her career. If you were a fan around the time it happened you would know how it hurt Janet cry We still can't get on her radio. If "Feedback" didn't get on radio. I don't know what will sigh
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Reply #126 posted 03/17/10 8:57pm

Timmy84

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bored


lol Back and forth huh? lol
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Reply #127 posted 03/17/10 8:58pm

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Timmy84 said:

babybugz said:

bored


lol Back and forth huh? lol

Just watching you all say the same things over and over.
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Reply #128 posted 03/17/10 8:59pm

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babybugz said:

Timmy84 said:



lol Back and forth huh? lol

Just watching you all say the same things over and over.



lol
Don't laugh at my funk
This funk is a serious joint
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Reply #129 posted 03/17/10 9:00pm

Timmy84

babybugz said:

Timmy84 said:



lol Back and forth huh? lol

Just watching you all say the same things over and over.


lol

Deja vu, I've been here before... whistle
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Reply #130 posted 03/17/10 9:01pm

Timmy84

Matter of fact... babybugz I'm posting your song:



lol
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Reply #131 posted 03/17/10 9:01pm

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babybugz said:

Timmy84 said:



lol Back and forth huh? lol

Just watching you all say the same things over and over.


lol

"The fascist of the future will call themselves anti fascists."
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Reply #132 posted 03/17/10 9:02pm

trueiopian

midiscover said:

We still can't get on her radio. If "Feedback" didn't get on radio. I don't know what will sigh


They're not going to play a 43 year old, black, female pop star on Clear Channel radio besides those Classic R&B stations (smaller audience) every once in awhile.

Sorry

confused
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Reply #133 posted 03/17/10 9:02pm

Timmy84

cborgman said:

babybugz said:


Just watching you all say the same things over and over.


lol


And on and on and on and on and on...



giggle
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Reply #134 posted 03/17/10 9:03pm

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Timmy84 said:

Matter of fact... babybugz I'm posting your song:



lol

lol Yeah that song be on repeat when i'm here, I kid , I kid
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Reply #135 posted 03/17/10 9:04pm

Timmy84

babybugz said:

Timmy84 said:

Matter of fact... babybugz I'm posting your song:



lol

lol Yeah that song be on repeat when i'm here, I kid , I kid


lol
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Reply #136 posted 03/17/10 9:06pm

midiscover

trueiopian said:

midiscover said:

We still can't get on her radio. If "Feedback" didn't get on radio. I don't know what will sigh


They're not going to play a 43 year old, black, female pop star on Clear Channel radio besides those Classic R&B stations (smaller audience) every once in awhile.

Sorry

confused


Ch..... doh!

I know lol

I was responding to sleepq saying "anyone can bounce back". I assume by bouncing back he meant through all outlets. Radio being one. It ain't happenin' wave
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Reply #137 posted 03/17/10 9:06pm

midiscover

Timmy84 said:

cborgman said:



lol


And on and on and on and on and on...



giggle


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Reply #138 posted 03/17/10 9:09pm

Harlepolis

I'd say Halle's breakthrough role(performance wise) was Losing Isaiah.

Granted, she's a fine actress but she get to play these boring predictable roles, Jack, I mean disbelief

I'm VERY intrested in her upcoming film where she plays a woman with a personality disorder though.
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Reply #139 posted 03/17/10 9:11pm

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trueiopian said:

midiscover said:

We still can't get on her radio. If "Feedback" didn't get on radio. I don't know what will sigh


They're not going to play a 43 year old, black, female pop star on Clear Channel radio besides those Classic R&B stations (smaller audience) every once in awhile.

Sorry

confused


what about mariah? she's 40 and gets played.

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Reply #140 posted 03/17/10 9:11pm

sleepyq

midiscover said:

trueiopian said:



They're not going to play a 43 year old, black, female pop star on Clear Channel radio besides those Classic R&B stations (smaller audience) every once in awhile.

Sorry

confused


Ch..... doh!

I know lol

I was responding to sleepq saying "anyone can bounce back". I assume by bouncing back he meant through all outlets. Radio being one. It ain't happenin' wave

Not with radio, not now...

But in 2006 with 20 YO, she could have. As I said, her time has passed, and her chances r up. The mistakes have already been made. sad

... she can just keep releasing music and touring regularly for her fans now. Nobody really sells anything these days anyway...
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Reply #141 posted 03/17/10 9:12pm

Harlepolis

TonyVanDam said:

2. There nothing wrong in seeing a black female character on film getting save by a black male character. Hell, white female characters (Jane/Lois Lane) gets saved by white male characters (Tarzan/Superman) all the time within Hollywood history.


lol

Thats a good joke, Tony razz
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Reply #142 posted 03/17/10 9:15pm

trueiopian

cborgman said:

trueiopian said:



They're not going to play a 43 year old, black, female pop star on Clear Channel radio besides those Classic R&B stations (smaller audience) every once in awhile.

Sorry

confused


what about mariah? she's 40 and gets played.


What about her?

Did she have her tit exposed for billions of people? I don't think so.
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Reply #143 posted 03/17/10 9:16pm

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Harlepolis said:

TonyVanDam said:

2. There nothing wrong in seeing a black female character on film getting save by a black male character. Hell, white female characters (Jane/Lois Lane) gets saved by white male characters (Tarzan/Superman) all the time within Hollywood history.


lol

Thats a good joke, Tony razz


lol

Quietly as it's kept we aren't supposed to love each other either.
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Reply #144 posted 03/17/10 9:18pm

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SCNDLS said:

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she was "away" for quite awhile getting her shit together, though. long enough for people to forget who she was and what she did before she came back in her late teens.

Todd Bridges' (and Lohan's) problem is they fucked up on the verge of adulthood, so everyone identifies the "adult" them with that stuff.

Went away where? She worked pretty consistently throughout her "struggles." Her and RDJ were given the benefit of the doubt.


aside from a few tv episodes, she barely worked from 87 to 92

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Reply #145 posted 03/17/10 9:19pm

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trueiopian said:

cborgman said:



what about mariah? she's 40 and gets played.


What about her?

Did she have her tit exposed for billions of people? I don't think so.


what does that have to do with being 43, black, female, and getting played?

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Reply #146 posted 03/17/10 9:21pm

midiscover

sleepyq said:

midiscover said:



Ch..... doh!

I know lol

I was responding to sleepq saying "anyone can bounce back". I assume by bouncing back he meant through all outlets. Radio being one. It ain't happenin' wave

Not with radio, not now...

But in 2006 with 20 YO, she could have. As I said, her time has passed, and her chances r up. The mistakes have already been made. sad

... she can just keep releasing music and touring regularly for her fans now. Nobody really sells anything these days anyway...


If she can't now, how could she in 2006? Lets be reasonable. In 2006, Janet had top-notch promotion from Virgin but not through radio because they know radio wouldn't play her. So they utitlized the media of publication. She was on every magazine cover imaginable. "Call on Me" was a hit on Urban radio and did well. Pop radio isn't accepting so I don't think she can garner that audience again. Janet's time has not passed. She's still doing her thing. Janet obviously doesn't give a fuck about impressing listeners our whatever so shrug
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Reply #147 posted 03/17/10 9:22pm

Timmy84

Harlepolis said:

I'd say Halle's breakthrough role(performance wise) was Losing Isaiah.

Granted, she's a fine actress but she get to play these boring predictable roles, Jack, I mean disbelief

I'm VERY intrested in her upcoming film where she plays a woman with a personality disorder though.
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And even in "Isaiah" she was overshadowed by Glenn Close and that boy that played her abandoned child.
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Reply #148 posted 03/17/10 9:22pm

midiscover

cborgman said:

trueiopian said:



They're not going to play a 43 year old, black, female pop star on Clear Channel radio besides those Classic R&B stations (smaller audience) every once in awhile.

Sorry

confused


what about mariah? she's 40 and gets played.


Mariah isn't black.
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Reply #149 posted 03/17/10 9:23pm

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midiscover said:

cborgman said:



what about mariah? she's 40 and gets played.


Mariah isn't black.


she says she is.

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