Prince's pointless battle against cameras at his concerts

http://news.cnet.com/8301...47-1_3-0-5

I heard a story in the diamonds & peals era of some poor kid who snapped a pictur of Prince and he had his minded snatch the camera and rip the film out.

Also saw sone rather heavy handed and co-ordinated action against photographs during 21 nights...involving laser pens and surronding people.

Sorry but, within reason, you put yourself out there to maje the money and be famous...the very least yo should expect is your photo taken by passing fans.

Prince doesn't want his photo taken cause he can't control the image that comes out. Heaven forbid you catch him gurning.

If there was an Ap for the Iphone like 'Prince Airbrush filter', he might be happier.

But yeah. he should letitgo.

O.K., we get it.

Prince Bad

Trent Good

You DO know that Prince isn't the only artist with a No Flash Photography policy at their concerts, right?

This is just one of your many Nine Inch Nails Circle Jerk threads.
[Edited 11/11/09 2:28am]

I find it very distracting at concerts seeing people just stand there and flick photos all night. It makes you wonder are they really there to experience the music, or just to impress their friends...

Having said that, I think that if Prince does continue his tough stance, then he should at least take advantage of lotusp00p.com (or whatever his latest website is at any given time) and share concert pics and snippets online - at least more than he does at the moment. It's a fair trade off I think.

Paris9748430 said:

Paris9748430 said:

BartVanHemelen said:

It has to be said that Trent Reznor again shows himself to be ahead of the field
in this respect. While Prince spends far too much of his energy trying to
prevent filming and banning cameras from concerts, not to mention erasing all
traces of his work from sites like youtube. Nine Inch Nails actively encourage
fans to film their shows and then share their footege amongst themselves to
compile their own fan-made concert videos, which can then be shared for free
via Nine Inch Nails' official website! (Somehow, I can't imagine Prince doing
this). Personally, I worry that Prince's actions and attitude to his work and
the way it is (or more importantly, isn't) viewed is actually causing more
harm to his legacy than good.

I wish some people on here, would please f**k off and go to trentreznor.org. Get over it.

interesting that the article has nothing to do with prince.

There's still a no cameras policy on Broadway too. It's very distracting to singers and actors to have to see those flashes go off in the audience and can be blinding and dangerous for them. Camera phone pictures look crappy anyway.

LuPone's Showstopper

When the Broadway diva chastised a texter, it highlighted problems with Vegas audiences

By STEVE FRIESS


The last thing I posted online before the lights came down for the start of Broadway legend Patti LuPone’s concert on Sunday was this: “Realized I’ve never been in the Orleans Showroom before. Lumpy seats. Wonder how Patti will react if I tweet her show.”

It was a joke, of course, that harked back to her onstage explosion in January in New York when an audience member during a performance of Gypsy was shooting photos. “Stop taking pictures right now!” she shouted, breaking character and halting the show to berate someone who later turned out to be a sanctioned journalist. “You heard the announcement, who do you think you are? How dare you?”

That was the stuff of YouTube glory, but it also struck a nerve among anyone who’s ever been in a showroom or a movie theater and had the comfort and focus provided by darkness disrupted by someone’s electronic this-or-that. The Gypsy incident is so legendary that you would think that anyone who knew enough about LuPone to turn out to see her at the Orleans over this past weekend would be aware of it.Except it wasn’t. About halfway into her Gypsy in My Soul show in Las Vegas, the two-time Tony winner was winding up to launch into the number she made a classic in her Tony-winning creation of Eva Peron in Evita, “Don’t Cry For Me Argentina.” The lights were down, her eyes were shut, her arms were out as she was working herself into the character, when, suddenly, she stopped her 10-piece orchestra.

“What were you doing?” LuPone asked some dumb schlub in the third or fourth row. “I promise not to be mad at you. Just tell me, what were you doing—videoing? Taking photos? Texting? I really want to know.”

It seems he was sending a text message. Ka-boom!

Well, sort of. Her reaction was far more measured than her freak-out in New York and, thus, probably a lot more effective. She even sweetly said to the man, “I’m not going to yell at you, I don’t think.” But she did give him an earful about how she’s on “a campaign” against this sort of behavior and said, “The thing is, the people who text, they don’t seem to understand that we can see you. If you really need to do that, why don’t you just leave?”

He did not do so. He kept his piehole shut and hoped the storm would pass. It did, but not before something else happened: Several people in the audience stood up and applauded.

I admit, I wasn’t one of them, but mostly because I was too busy recording the goings-on in my brain so I could report them as faithfully as possible later without the assistance of the electronic recording devices that A.) would have made LuPone completely lose it and B.) I realized then I had become entirely too reliant upon. Also, I was rejoicing that I had witnessed such a brilliant diva moment with my evening companion, who works as a backstage show manager, and with the Las Vegas Sun’s Joe Brown, who was also in my row.

But God, LuPone really nailed it and hit on something that so many performers in Las Vegas and elsewhere struggle with, a dramatic lowering of audience standards and etiquette.
[Edited 11/11/09 7:11am]

As much as I can understand Prince´s stance from his point of view when it comes to bootleg recordings, YouTube footage, promoclips and concert pictures, I think he doesn´t really get how his strict attitude endangers his legacy.

Prince doesn't CARE how it affects his legacy. When he says no, he means no, why don't people get that???

there's a clip on a thread about aerosmith on non music, showing steven tyler joining Joe perry onstage...and guess what?....you can't see him because so many people are taping it with their digital cameras. that is a form of bootlegging, imho.

BlackAdder7 said:

KoolEaze said:

It is all about the imaginary rights to an image, an idea, etc.
It is all smoke, vapour. Not even mirrors.
The whole idiotic rights thing is just between certain ears and nowhere else.

Just that the nation of the US has to grab.

Who is Trent Razor and why would anyone expect P to do anything the way Trent would...

What is the likelyhood of P waking up one day and saying to his team lets all take a look at Trent's business practices and see what we can learn....

One minute they want peace……

Then do everything to make it go away.

Oh and so P doesnt want to see 'unapproved' pictures of himself on the net or 'unapproved' videos of himself on Youtube..

I appreciate that
I dont LIKE that but appreciate it

One minute they want peace……

Then do everything to make it go away.

I think all cameras should be banned at concerts, nothing worse than standing behind a as**ole with hands up taking pictures all the way through a concert your trying to watch.
And you know they will delete nearly all of them.

I can respect his wishes, but I do feel that if I paid $300 for two seats to see him then I should at least get one photo of the man Damn! Prince have a heart

I guess it's really up to the individual artist which policy they prefer. It's great when an artist is accomodating and engaging but at the end of the day, it's just entertainment...no big deal. Let him wage his little battles...if his legacy is negatively impacted then so be it.

Sometimes I wonder how peeps get so heated one way or the other about a dude who's only singing and dancing and playing guitar? He's a brilliant, electrifying and supremely gifted entertainer.

But. He's. Still. An. Entertainer.

If he don't want me to take his photo or see him on youtube I think I'll live.

My opinion is that I respect any performer working to protect their product. Be it photos, music, art, etc.

However, I agree with Bart on the aspect that Prince (and many other musicians) is not keeping up with current cultural trends. Instead of using new technology and cultural mores to push the envelope, he's resisting. Like driving 35 on the expressway.

In my opinion, there should be a caveat that any picture or recording taken on Private Property remains the property of the area/club/etc and that Prince would have an agreement with the area/club/etc that those rights are transferred to Prince.

There are also broadcasting regulations. This is why you can't just put up a video of a baby dancing to Kiss on Youtube. You're broadcasting and would have to prove fair use.

Again, I feel there is a marketing benefit in letting recordings and pictures go wild. However, I can respect the artist if they wish to reign that in.

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Paris9748430 said:

TheChief said:

TheChief said:

Who cares if he is "losing out?" I dont think that he cares about that. I think not only doeas he want control of what images are out there (maybe due to some perfection of a performance complex) but also that he doesn't want folks flashing pics all night long at him like he was some strange creature etc. He wants folks to enjoy the show and he said as much at one concert this year.

BartVanHemelen said: