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Kiss new cd.......shades of Prince? The veteran heavy metal group, Kiss, is joining a growing list of classic acts putting out new music through the world's largest retailer.
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Graycap23 said: The veteran heavy metal group, Kiss, is joining a growing list of classic acts putting out new music through the world's largest retailer.
"Sonic Boom" is due to be released only at Wal-Mart and Sam's Club stores on Oct. 6. The three-disc package will include a CD of the band's first new music in 11 years, re-recorded versions of famous Kiss hits and a live DVD. The Kiss 3 CD/DVD set is going to be $12, too! Has Prince started a new trend for releasing 3-discs sets at a low price and still keeping rights to the songs? I'm pretty sure that's why Kiss re-recorded their hits....so they can have the rights to the new recordings. There's no way a record co would let them, Prince, or anyone else release 3 discs for $12. | |
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DerekH said: The Kiss 3 CD/DVD set is going to be $12, too! Has Prince started a new trend for releasing 3-discs sets at a low price and still keeping rights to the songs?
No. Prince isn't the first to release a CD at a fair price exclusively through a retailer. Garth Brooks, The Eagles, Tina Turner, Justin Timberlake, Christina Aguilera, Lionel Richie, Barry Manilow and a ton of others have done the same thing. I'm pretty sure that's why Kiss re-recorded their hits....so they can have the rights to the new recordings. There's no way a record co would let them, Prince, or anyone else release 3 discs for $12.
You obviously don't know your KISS history. Ernest L Sewell, IV
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I'm rooting for them but as far as I know they haven't written a good song in over 20 years. Songwriting gets in the way of marketing and deifying himself (Gene), so that's pretty much a no-no.
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ernestsewell said: DerekH said: The Kiss 3 CD/DVD set is going to be $12, too! Has Prince started a new trend for releasing 3-discs sets at a low price and still keeping rights to the songs?
No. Prince isn't the first to release a CD at a fair price exclusively through a retailer. Garth Brooks, The Eagles, Tina Turner, Justin Timberlake, Christina Aguilera, Lionel Richie, Barry Manilow and a ton of others have done the same thing. I'm pretty sure that's why Kiss re-recorded their hits....so they can have the rights to the new recordings. There's no way a record co would let them, Prince, or anyone else release 3 discs for $12.
You obviously don't know your KISS history. Those others that u speak of, were they 3 cd's of new material? What was the average price of that material? The TRUTH.......only exist in 1 form.
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ernestsewell said: DerekH said: The Kiss 3 CD/DVD set is going to be $12, too! Has Prince started a new trend for releasing 3-discs sets at a low price and still keeping rights to the songs?
No. Prince isn't the first to release a CD at a fair price exclusively through a retailer. Garth Brooks, The Eagles, Tina Turner, Justin Timberlake, Christina Aguilera, Lionel Richie, Barry Manilow and a ton of others have done the same thing. I'm pretty sure that's why Kiss re-recorded their hits....so they can have the rights to the new recordings. There's no way a record co would let them, Prince, or anyone else release 3 discs for $12.
You obviously don't know your KISS history. I know Prince wasn't the first to do an exclusive with one of the "big box" stores, but did all those others do a 3-disc for $12 or something close to it? I was guessing on the Kiss re-release thing, usually doing a re-recording is a way to not have to pay royalties to whatever record co did the original release. I | |
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DerekH said: ernestsewell said: You obviously don't know your KISS history. I know Prince wasn't the first to do an exclusive with one of the "big box" stores, but did all those others do a 3-disc for $12 or something close to it? I was guessing on the Kiss re-release thing, usually doing a re-recording is a way to not have to pay royalties to whatever record co did the original release. You only know that because Prince has said so. Read up on your KISStory though. Ernest L Sewell, IV
Confessions Of A Prince Realist. You might want to sit down for this. "An ass hanging out on stage is an ass hanging out on stage. Period." | |
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ernestsewell said: DerekH said: I know Prince wasn't the first to do an exclusive with one of the "big box" stores, but did all those others do a 3-disc for $12 or something close to it? I was guessing on the Kiss re-release thing, usually doing a re-recording is a way to not have to pay royalties to whatever record co did the original release. You only know that because Prince has said so. Read up on your KISStory though. OK, I know a little about the band's background: Originally signed to Casablanca Records (founded in 1973), debut album came out in 1974, last studio album was "Psycho Circus" in 1999. Gene and Paul are the original members still in the band. Paul's real name is Stanley Eisen, Gene's is Chaim Witz, Ace's real first name is Paul, Peter's full last name is Criscuola. Lead guitarists after Ace left: Vinnie Vincent, Mark St.John, Bruce Kulick, Tommy Thayer. Drummers after Peter left: Eric Carr, Eric Singer. How about that? | |
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DerekH said: ernestsewell said: You only know that because Prince has said so. Read up on your KISStory though. OK, I know a little about the band's background: Originally signed to Casablanca Records (founded in 1973), debut album came out in 1974, last studio album was "Psycho Circus" in 1999. Gene and Paul are the original members still in the band. Paul's real name is Stanley Eisen, Gene's is Chaim Witz, Ace's real first name is Paul, Peter's full last name is Criscuola. Lead guitarists after Ace left: Vinnie Vincent, Mark St.John, Bruce Kulick, Tommy Thayer. Drummers after Peter left: Eric Carr, Eric Singer. How about that? KISS basically own every single thing they ever recorded, every video, every documentary, every endorsement, every comic book etc...they were easily the originators of this kind of franchise. Though some may not like Gene Simmons and the way he speaks at times, and think he has an ego etc... well he should, he knows the business, and knew it very early on, thats why the HOUSE is in order a-ha "foot of the mountain TOUR 2009" a-ha "Ending on a High Note Final TOUR 2010" going everywhere! | |
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so then why DID they re-record? | |
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errant said: so then why DID they re-record?
too bring more attention to the project, i mean they have about 40 different variations of their hits released, a box set etc...i dont think a new album by them at this point would be a big selling point for Walmart, so those extras are tossed in mainly because Kiss pretty much has a die hard audience that will buy it all. a-ha "foot of the mountain TOUR 2009" a-ha "Ending on a High Note Final TOUR 2010" going everywhere! | |
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lastdecember said: errant said: so then why DID they re-record?
too bring more attention to the project, i mean they have about 40 different variations of their hits released, a box set etc...i dont think a new album by them at this point would be a big selling point for Walmart, so those extras are tossed in mainly because Kiss pretty much has a die hard audience that will buy it all. if the first new album in 11 years isn't enough of a selling point, i seriously doubt re-recorded hits, when there are so many collections out there already, is going to help matters any better. | |
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Copycat said:
The cover is atrocious. Did the band hire the Paisley Park art department as a means to reduce costs? According to Billboard.com, they hired the same artist who did the "Rock and Roll Over" cover. It kinda looks like it, too: ![]() | |
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errant said: lastdecember said: too bring more attention to the project, i mean they have about 40 different variations of their hits released, a box set etc...i dont think a new album by them at this point would be a big selling point for Walmart, so those extras are tossed in mainly because Kiss pretty much has a die hard audience that will buy it all. if the first new album in 11 years isn't enough of a selling point, i seriously doubt re-recorded hits, when there are so many collections out there already, is going to help matters any better. Well thats the way they did it, maybe they were tired of the shitty sounds, and wanted to do things over, who knows, bands do these things, maybe they know its a final album or final whatever and they want something special. If they cared about selling they would have put the old versions on their for customers who dont own any KISS, so this is not a get more people in to buy, they have their following they arent going to get any new KISS fans almost 40 years into their careers a-ha "foot of the mountain TOUR 2009" a-ha "Ending on a High Note Final TOUR 2010" going everywhere! | |
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lastdecember said: KISS basically owns every single thing they ever recorded, every video, every documentary, every endorsement, every comic book etc...they were easily the originators of this kind of franchise. Though some may not like Gene Simmons and the way he speaks at times, and think he has an ego etc... well he should, he knows the business, and knew it very early on, thats why the HOUSE is in order
Someone knows their KISStory. You're right on track with what I was alluding to earlier. Ernest L Sewell, IV
Confessions Of A Prince Realist. You might want to sit down for this. "An ass hanging out on stage is an ass hanging out on stage. Period." | |
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lastdecember said: errant said: so then why DID they re-record?
too bring more attention to the project, i mean they have about 40 different variations of their hits released, a box set etc...i dont think a new album by them at this point would be a big selling point for Walmart, so those extras are tossed in mainly because Kiss pretty much has a die hard audience that will buy it all. Ernest L Sewell, IV
Confessions Of A Prince Realist. You might want to sit down for this. "An ass hanging out on stage is an ass hanging out on stage. Period." | |
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ernestsewell said: lastdecember said: KISS basically owns every single thing they ever recorded, every video, every documentary, every endorsement, every comic book etc...they were easily the originators of this kind of franchise. Though some may not like Gene Simmons and the way he speaks at times, and think he has an ego etc... well he should, he knows the business, and knew it very early on, thats why the HOUSE is in order
Someone knows their KISStory. You're right on track with what I was alluding to earlier. I didn't know they owned the masters and publishing on their older releases, Since Casablanca was bought out by Mercury/Polygram Records, and Polygram was later bought out by Universal. The remastered CDs are released on Mercury Records/Universal distribution. I knew they had rights to the band name and logo and stage clothes and makeup designs. Gene's even trademarked his own name (I don't know if the other guys did, too). This is how they make all that $$ in merchandise sales. | |
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Yeah, the cover is "classic KISS". It's just distasteful in a very retro way. | |
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The album is straight ahead Kiss, they bonus disc on the deluxe with the new versions of hits, is actually done quite well, the playing is really good. a-ha "foot of the mountain TOUR 2009" a-ha "Ending on a High Note Final TOUR 2010" going everywhere! | |
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The set comes with a booklet containing an autographed pic of the band and complete lyrics to the new tracks. The cover art I mocked in a previous post doesn't look bad at all on the actual product. | |
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DerekH said: Copycat said:
The cover is atrocious. Did the band hire the Paisley Park art department as a means to reduce costs? According to Billboard.com, they hired the same artist who did the "Rock and Roll Over" cover. It kinda looks like it, too: ![]() Hey the album cover isn't atrocious! I love it, I got the shirt with the album cover today | |
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Gene Simmons comments are always so priceless. a-ha "foot of the mountain TOUR 2009" a-ha "Ending on a High Note Final TOUR 2010" going everywhere! | |
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Amerigo said: Hey the album cover isn't atrocious! I love it... As I wrote today in my previous post on this, I've since changed my mind after seeing and purchasing the CD. [Edited 10/7/09 19:03pm] | |
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Kiss has sucked badly ever since they took off their make-up for Unmasked about 30 years ago and went Disco | |
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Wanted to state some facts..
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love 4 kiss no matter what
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