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Reply #210 posted 07/02/09 2:12pm

Timmy84

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babybugz said:

sorry if this was already posted

$25 Charge to Attend Michael Jackson Memorial

Michael Jackson’s official memorial service has been scheduled for Tuesday July 7th at Staples Center in LA. But this isn’t a freebie!

If you wish to attend, you’ll have to shell out $25.

Family, friends, and VIPs at the memorial will sit on the main floor, while the general public will sit in the stands. So it’ll be exactly like a Laker game! Celebrities on the floor, regular people up top!

The memorial service will feature music, guest speakers, and video screens inside and out of Staples Center.

According to Radar Elizabeth Taylor and Diana Ross are expected to attend.

Vendors will sell Michael’s “This Is It” tour T-shirts outside of the venue as well. The service will be held between 10AM and Noon July 7th.

http://www.hollyscoop.com...20773.aspx



20,000 x 25 = $500,000 = disgusting grave robbers.


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Now you see what I meant by it being disrespectful and gross? And not only that they're selling the "This Is It" t-shirts. NO THANK YOU!
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Reply #211 posted 07/02/09 2:14pm

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trueiopian said:

dag said:


I´d love to know that, too. It´s weird. If it is true then as someone said it is sad he did not say these things when Mike was alive.

BTW, that rehearsal´s great. Mike looked great. I would love to see the rest of the rehearsals to see if it would be the same as the History tour, cause this piece is the same except for that tiny bit of Why you wanna trip on me. I think this wasn´t there.



eek Woah! Damn! I guess Quincy's been holding this in for a long time, huh? Sheeet!
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Reply #212 posted 07/02/09 2:14pm

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trueiopian said:



Oh my! lol

$$$$ grab. I'll bet an attorney like Alred put her up 2 this.



Agreed. Debbie needs to go sit her ass down somewhere.
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Reply #213 posted 07/02/09 2:15pm

trueiopian

Debbie just wants $$$
She cleary said that she gave MJ those children as a "gift"
and CNN reports Debbie also wants to file a restraining order against Joe Jackson
This b!tch is insane! lol
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Reply #214 posted 07/02/09 2:16pm

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One thing Debbie needs to think about is that if she gets those kids she will be splitting them up from the youngest one (Blanket). That is not right to do. They are all used to eachother. I hope this will be resolved without having to split up the two oldest ones from the youngest one. I am not suprised this has happened though. I knew this would turn into a big mess.


debbie always has been a ugly whore.
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Reply #215 posted 07/02/09 2:21pm

Timmy84

midnightmover said:

trueiopian said:




eek Woah! Damn! I guess Quincy's been holding this in for a long time, huh? Sheeet!


Must've but I remember when he said something that he didn't know Michael that well in 2003. Guess he didn't. Then again we never knew Michael either so who are we to judge. Even though I believed he had vitiligo I'm not gonna knock on Quincy for his opinion.
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Reply #216 posted 07/02/09 2:22pm

Timmy84

trueiopian said:

Debbie just wants $$$
She cleary said that she gave MJ those children as a "gift"
and CNN reports Debbie also wants to file a restraining order against Joe Jackson
This b!tch is insane! lol


Debbie and Joe should settle it in a WWE ring and leave it alone.
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Reply #217 posted 07/02/09 2:23pm

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Yeah right Quincy. Quincy is a man who never dates black women and he wants to talk about someone's lack of blackness or pride, please. I read a while ago that Quincy is the one who told Michael he should date white women and put a lot of ideas in his head when he was younger so he's one to talk. I don't know how true that is of course, people make up things all the time but who know's?

All I know is that Quincy didn't even know Michael for years. He himself said years ago that he did not know Michael anymore and hadn't for years so he is just assuming like everyone else. He doesn't have any more insight than anyone else 'cause he did not know MJ in the later years.
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Reply #218 posted 07/02/09 2:23pm

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trueiopian said:

Debbie just wants $$$
She cleary said that she gave MJ those children as a "gift"
and CNN reports Debbie also wants to file a restraining order against Joe Jackson
This b!tch is insane! lol


lol lol

She said she would take Blanket too eek


Hell No. Keep those kids away from this greedy woman.

And she still is friends with Marc Schaffel. lol
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Reply #219 posted 07/02/09 2:23pm

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Quincy Jones has a lot of nerve talking about anyone having racial self hatred, He mentions the color of Michael's children whom are the same color of his own. Go figure.
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Reply #220 posted 07/02/09 2:26pm

trueiopian

Cinnamon234 said:

Yeah right Quincy. Quincy is a man who never dates black women and he wants to talk about someone's lack of blackness or pride, please. I read a while ago that Quincy is the one who told Michael he should date white women and put a lot of ideas in his head when he was younger. I don't know how true that is of course, people make up things all the time so who know's?

All I know is that Quincy didn't even know Michael for years. He himself said years ago that he did not know Michael anymore and hadn't for years so he is just assuming like everyone else. He doesn't have any more insight than anyone else 'cause he did not know MJ in the later years.


Oh please! Just because he doesn't date black woman doesn't make him less black
and I'm sure Quincy said he didn't know MJ anymore because he became a totally different person then the person he once knew. Cher said something similar as well.
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Reply #221 posted 07/02/09 2:26pm

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I've never seen Michael miss a dance step! He seemed pretty tired in that rehearsal footage...

TACKY they're charging people to go to a memorial!!!!! disbelief disbelief disbelief

& the 2 press conferences on the Part 3 thread - the first one (w/ the tea cup) he just seemed extremely tired & frustrated, I know I would be if I was on trial & kept being asked the same damn question over & over. Second press conference he didn't seem high exactly, but he didn't have a whole lot to say/focus on. Jacksons always, ALWAYS soak up the adoration. Every award they win, they always stand there for too long just looking & smiling, saying "thank you, I love you" lol that's not new. Just seemed like he hadn't been in front of a crowd for a minute & wanted to soak it up. Lets face it, the mf was 50 - you can't always be spry!
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Reply #222 posted 07/02/09 2:27pm

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Yeah right Quincy. Quincy is a man who never dates black women and he wants to talk about someone's lack of blackness or pride, please. I read a while ago that Quincy is the one who told Michael he should date white women and put a lot of ideas in his head when he was younger so he's one to talk. I don't know how true that is of course, people make up things all the time but who know's?

All I know is that Quincy didn't even know Michael for years. He himself said years ago that he did not know Michael anymore and hadn't for years so he is just assuming like everyone else. He doesn't have any more insight than anyone else 'cause he did not know MJ in the later years.
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but he could know about the peels though. This all started in the 80s,
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Reply #223 posted 07/02/09 2:27pm

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You guys read about his music and what the man acheived, other than talking about this bullshit (his personal life) ,the man is dead, How disrespectful and distasteful.



Exclusive: Michael Jackson Was Working On Two Albums

July 02, 2009 04:00 PM ET

Mariel Concepcion, N.Y.
At the time of Michael Jackson's death, it was well-known that he was preparing for a 50-show concert series at London's O2 Arena.

Billboard's Full continuing Michael Jackson coverage, including video, charts and more.


What was less well-known—and what many are now speculating about—was what kind of recordings Jackson had done for the last few years. Billboard has learned that the singer was working on two albums at the time of his death: one in the pop vein that made him famous and another that would consist of an instrumental classical composition. And while some believe the star wanted to recapture his '80s glory days—or escape financial trouble—those who worked with him recently say he was motivated by his fans and his children.

Jackson was working on the pop album with songwriter Claude Kelly and Akon, who says that Jackson was motivated by the ticket sales for his performances. "He said, 'My fans are still there. They still love me. They're alive,'" Akon says. "His kids are like his first priority, and they had never seen him perform live. He was trying to create the most incredible show for his kids."

Kelly, who wrote "Hold My Hand," the Akon-produced Jackson track that leaked last year, says Jackson never lost his passion. "He was the King of Pop, the biggest to ever do it, and the one thing you never lose—whether known by the whole world or just 10 people—is your love for music," Kelly says. "That never goes away, and it never went away for him amidst his troubles."

Composer David Michael Frank had worked with Jackson on a 1989 TV tribute to Sammy Davis Jr. and received a call from the star's assistant two months ago about collaborating again. Jackson invited Frank to his home in Los Angeles' Holmby Hills, told him he was working on an instrumental album of classical music and asked for help with orchestration.

"He had two demos of two pieces he'd written, but they weren't complete," says Frank, who adds that he was impressed with Jackson's knowledge of classical music. "For one of them, he had a whole section of it done in his head. He had not recorded it. He hummed it to me as I sat at the keyboard in his pool house and we figured out the chords—I guess this recording I made is the only copy that exists of this music."


A few weeks ago, Jackson called to see how Frank was progressing on the orchestrations. "He mentioned more instrumental music of his he wanted to record, including one jazz piece," Frank says. "I hope one day his family will decide to record this music as a tribute and show the world the depth of his artistry."

Although questions arose about Jackson's health, and the impact it had on his dancing and singing, those who collaborated with Jackson say his voice was in fine form, despite his frail appearance.

Greg Phillinganes, a keyboardist who collaborated with Jackson as musical director of the "Bad" tour and appeared on several of his albums, says Jackson sounded as good as he ever did. "He still had a good voice and never had a problem singing," says Phillinganes, who last spoke to Jackson in March. "There were questions about him being able to pull off the tour on the choreography side, but sources working with him told me he was dancing all the time, every day, and was very focused, excited and committed to making this tour the best it could be."

Akon last spoke to Jackson three months prior to his death. "He would always tell me to eat right and ask me if I was exercising and drinking water," he says. "He'd always stress you had to take care of yourself before you can go off and do anything else."

Frank agrees. "He seemed totally healthy, not frail, and gave me a firm handshake when we met. He seemed in good health, had a good voice and was in good spirits," he says. "He was very skinny, but from what I knew, he was always thin. He was also taller than I pictured, but he might have been wearing some platform shoes. And he was impeccably dressed."
Much has been made of Jackson's intense rehearsal schedule, but Phillinganes says that Jackson lived up to his reputation as a perfectionist. "It was the biggest comeback of his career, arguably the biggest comeback in pop music—even bigger than Elvis," he says. "So obviously he'd want to do the best he could. He never did anything half-assed, which is what originally got him to the stature he had.
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Reply #224 posted 07/02/09 2:27pm

trueiopian

suga10 said:

trueiopian said:

Debbie just wants $$$
She cleary said that she gave MJ those children as a "gift"
and CNN reports Debbie also wants to file a restraining order against Joe Jackson
This b!tch is insane! lol


lol lol

She said she would take Blanket too eek


Hell No. Keep those kids away from this greedy woman.

And she still is friends with Marc Schaffel. lol
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She can't take Blanket even if she wanted to! lol
Ugh! She sucks!
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Reply #225 posted 07/02/09 2:28pm

suga10

Timmy84 said:

midnightmover said:


eek Woah! Damn! I guess Quincy's been holding this in for a long time, huh? Sheeet!


Must've but I remember when he said something that he didn't know Michael that well in 2003. Guess he didn't. Then again we never knew Michael either so who are we to judge. Even though I believed he had vitiligo I'm not gonna knock on Quincy for his opinion.


It seems Quincy is bitter because MJ decided to work with him no more after Bad?

But Quincy has nothing to be sad about- Off the Wall, Thriller, Bad- what more can you want???
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Reply #226 posted 07/02/09 2:28pm

midnightmover

Timmy84 said:

midnightmover said:


eek Woah! Damn! I guess Quincy's been holding this in for a long time, huh? Sheeet!


Must've but I remember when he said something that he didn't know Michael that well in 2003. Guess he didn't. Then again we never knew Michael either so who are we to judge. Even though I believed he had vitiligo I'm not gonna knock on Quincy for his opinion.

He was being evasive back then. He obviously didn't want to say what he really thought, so would probably deflect questions by saying "I don't know him really".

What I'd like to know is, what does he really think about the child abuse allegations? I remember being surprised years ago when I heard his daughter basically say Michael was guilty. She said everyone turned a blind eye to his behaviour because he was so rich and powerful. Presumably, she must have said this to Quincy at one time or another as well. I always presumed Quincy would have blinded himself just like all Michael's other beneficiaries, but now I'm not so sure.
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Reply #227 posted 07/02/09 2:28pm

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Anxiety said:

suga10 said:

Quincy Jones is such a jerk mad mad

He married a white woman mad
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so did michael. confused


.....as well as Rick James. But that never stop him for caring about black folk.
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Reply #228 posted 07/02/09 2:29pm

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midnightmover said:

trueiopian said:




eek Woah! Damn! I guess Quincy's been holding this in for a long time, huh? Sheeet!


what does he say about the rappers? I don't get that part.
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Reply #229 posted 07/02/09 2:30pm

suga10

midnightmover said:

Timmy84 said:



Must've but I remember when he said something that he didn't know Michael that well in 2003. Guess he didn't. Then again we never knew Michael either so who are we to judge. Even though I believed he had vitiligo I'm not gonna knock on Quincy for his opinion.

He was being evasive back then. He obviously didn't want to say what he really thought, so would probably deflect questions by saying "I don't know him really".

What I'd like to know is, what does he really think about the child abuse allegations? I remember being surprised years ago when I heard his daughter basically say Michael was guilty. She said everyone turned a blind eye to his behaviour because he was so rich and powerful. Presumably, she must have said this to Quincy at one time or another as well. I always presumed Quincy would have blinded himself just like all Michael's other beneficiaries, but now I'm not so sure.


How the hell would his daughter know if he was guilty?

Wouldn't tons of families have sued by now if he was guilty????

We all know Evan Chandler was an extortionist asshole.

And Same with the Arvizo family
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Reply #230 posted 07/02/09 2:31pm

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I've never seen Michael miss a dance step! He seemed pretty tired in that rehearsal footage...

TACKY they're charging people to go to a memorial!!!!! disbelief disbelief disbelief

& the 2 press conferences on the Part 3 thread - the first one (w/ the tea cup) he just seemed extremely tired & frustrated, I know I would be if I was on trial & kept being asked the same damn question over & over. Second press conference he didn't seem high exactly, but he didn't have a whole lot to say/focus on. Jacksons always, ALWAYS soak up the adoration. Every award they win, they always stand there for too long just looking & smiling, saying "thank you, I love you" lol that's not new. Just seemed like he hadn't been in front of a crowd for a minute & wanted to soak it up. Lets face it, the mf was 50 - you can't always be spry!

Thanks. For some reason I expected you to be more negative. I am glad you´re not.
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Reply #231 posted 07/02/09 2:35pm

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seeingvoices12 said:

You guys read about his music and what the man acheived, other than talking about this bullshit (his personal life) ,the man is dead, How disrespectful and distasteful.



Exclusive: Michael Jackson Was Working On Two Albums

July 02, 2009 04:00 PM ET

Mariel Concepcion, N.Y.
At the time of Michael Jackson's death, it was well-known that he was preparing for a 50-show concert series at London's O2 Arena.

Billboard's Full continuing Michael Jackson coverage, including video, charts and more.


What was less well-known—and what many are now speculating about—was what kind of recordings Jackson had done for the last few years. Billboard has learned that the singer was working on two albums at the time of his death: one in the pop vein that made him famous and another that would consist of an instrumental classical composition. And while some believe the star wanted to recapture his '80s glory days—or escape financial trouble—those who worked with him recently say he was motivated by his fans and his children.

Jackson was working on the pop album with songwriter Claude Kelly and Akon, who says that Jackson was motivated by the ticket sales for his performances. "He said, 'My fans are still there. They still love me. They're alive,'" Akon says. "His kids are like his first priority, and they had never seen him perform live. He was trying to create the most incredible show for his kids."

Kelly, who wrote "Hold My Hand," the Akon-produced Jackson track that leaked last year, says Jackson never lost his passion. "He was the King of Pop, the biggest to ever do it, and the one thing you never lose—whether known by the whole world or just 10 people—is your love for music," Kelly says. "That never goes away, and it never went away for him amidst his troubles."

Composer David Michael Frank had worked with Jackson on a 1989 TV tribute to Sammy Davis Jr. and received a call from the star's assistant two months ago about collaborating again. Jackson invited Frank to his home in Los Angeles' Holmby Hills, told him he was working on an instrumental album of classical music and asked for help with orchestration.

"He had two demos of two pieces he'd written, but they weren't complete," says Frank, who adds that he was impressed with Jackson's knowledge of classical music. "For one of them, he had a whole section of it done in his head. He had not recorded it. He hummed it to me as I sat at the keyboard in his pool house and we figured out the chords—I guess this recording I made is the only copy that exists of this music."


A few weeks ago, Jackson called to see how Frank was progressing on the orchestrations. "He mentioned more instrumental music of his he wanted to record, including one jazz piece," Frank says. "I hope one day his family will decide to record this music as a tribute and show the world the depth of his artistry."

Although questions arose about Jackson's health, and the impact it had on his dancing and singing, those who collaborated with Jackson say his voice was in fine form, despite his frail appearance.

Greg Phillinganes, a keyboardist who collaborated with Jackson as musical director of the "Bad" tour and appeared on several of his albums, says Jackson sounded as good as he ever did. "He still had a good voice and never had a problem singing," says Phillinganes, who last spoke to Jackson in March. "There were questions about him being able to pull off the tour on the choreography side, but sources working with him told me he was dancing all the time, every day, and was very focused, excited and committed to making this tour the best it could be."

Akon last spoke to Jackson three months prior to his death. "He would always tell me to eat right and ask me if I was exercising and drinking water," he says. "He'd always stress you had to take care of yourself before you can go off and do anything else."

Frank agrees. "He seemed totally healthy, not frail, and gave me a firm handshake when we met. He seemed in good health, had a good voice and was in good spirits," he says. "He was very skinny, but from what I knew, he was always thin. He was also taller than I pictured, but he might have been wearing some platform shoes. And he was impeccably dressed."
Much has been made of Jackson's intense rehearsal schedule, but Phillinganes says that Jackson lived up to his reputation as a perfectionist. "It was the biggest comeback of his career, arguably the biggest comeback in pop music—even bigger than Elvis," he says. "So obviously he'd want to do the best he could. He never did anything half-assed, which is what originally got him to the stature he had.
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Reply #232 posted 07/02/09 2:35pm

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Ugh they are charging people, what the hell? I know Michael wouldn't like that. Say whatever you want, but no one was nicer to their fans than Michael. That is not something he'd like. Who is doing this? Joe? Wouldn't suprise me if that was the case.


It has to be Jermaine's idea. I just look at that cat and I get a slimy feeling inside.

No one should be surprised that this has turned into a circus. Were you expecting anything less? This will be worse than Elvis.
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Reply #233 posted 07/02/09 2:38pm

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Cinnamon234 said:

Ugh they are charging people, what the hell? I know Michael wouldn't like that. Say whatever you want, but no one was nicer to their fans than Michael. That is not something he'd like. Who is doing this? Joe? Wouldn't suprise me if that was the case.


It has to be Jermaine's idea. I just look at that cat and I get a slimy feeling inside.

No one should be surprised that this has turned into a circus. Were you expecting anything less? This will be worse than Elvis.


Nothing else would suit Michael's life. What did you expect?

I never could imagine MJ being old. It was so obvious for him to die young.
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Reply #234 posted 07/02/09 2:38pm

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kibbles said:



quincy has spoken about people, black people in particular, questioning his racial identity for dating and marrying white women exclusively. talk about walking a mile in someone's shoes? if quincy doesn't like people questioning him about his racial politics, why does he get to question and criticize mj's? so he didn't get his nose done, so what? no chemical peel for him, okay. but quincy knows as well as i do that he has been subjected to the same whithering criticism as he is now directing at mj's corpse, whether you choose to believe the issues should be conflated or not.

IMO, he should have said all of this PUBLICLY and in all the news media forums when Michael was alive to reply to all of it. Coward.


It's real sad to read AND hear Quincy selling Michael out like that.
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Reply #235 posted 07/02/09 2:39pm

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graecophilos said:

Cinnamon234 said:

Yeah right Quincy. Quincy is a man who never dates black women and he wants to talk about someone's lack of blackness or pride, please. I read a while ago that Quincy is the one who told Michael he should date white women and put a lot of ideas in his head when he was younger so he's one to talk. I don't know how true that is of course, people make up things all the time but who know's?

All I know is that Quincy didn't even know Michael for years. He himself said years ago that he did not know Michael anymore and hadn't for years so he is just assuming like everyone else. He doesn't have any more insight than anyone else 'cause he did not know MJ in the later years.
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but he could know about the peels though. This all started in the 80s,

I have had a chemical peel myself. It cleared my skin, but guess what??? I am still Black. Chemical peels cannot turn anyone White (ask a dermatologist). Michael had vitiligo, and Quincy is going senile.
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Reply #236 posted 07/02/09 2:40pm

suga10

They're charging people in order to have crowd control on the day of the funeral. If it was free, everyone would be running to come and see his body.
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Reply #237 posted 07/02/09 2:41pm

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I realize the city of Los Angeles is swimming in red ink, facing a dire economic storm, but charging an attendance fee for a public memorial is the lowest it could possibly go. Damn! confused
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Reply #238 posted 07/02/09 2:42pm

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graecophilos said:

midnightmover said:


eek Woah! Damn! I guess Quincy's been holding this in for a long time, huh? Sheeet!


what does he say about the rappers? I don't get that part.

Basically around 1987 Quincy could see that rap was going to dominate the future, and said so, but Michael thought rap was over. He told Frank Dileo that Quincy was obviously out of touch. Maybe that would explain why Michael ditched the whole Run DMC collaboration. He probably thought rap was yesterday's news. lol
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Reply #239 posted 07/02/09 2:43pm

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I realize the city of Los Angeles is swimming in red ink, facing a dire economic storm, but charging an attendance fee for a public memorial is the lowest it could possibly go. Damn! confused


it could be a way to weed out every random wackadoo who wants to rubberneck, but i still think it would be more tasteful to hold this in a park or an outdoor venue of some kind, and make it free to the public.
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