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Thread started 06/25/09 11:52am

TitWankSymphon
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Why is Biggie Smalls considered this great genius? I saw the film and i'm none the wiser

Why on earth is the portly wordsmith held in such high regard?
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Reply #1 posted 06/25/09 11:53am

Graycap23

The Bill Cosby Flick or the rapper?
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Reply #2 posted 06/25/09 11:57am

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Biggie, made his contemporaries, step their up. He had a style all of his own and was in my opinion in a class by himself, because of it. As much as I like Jigga, I don't believe he could have touched Biggie...Big was just that good.
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Reply #3 posted 06/25/09 11:58am

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rapper, graycap1923
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Reply #4 posted 06/25/09 12:06pm

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TitWankSymphonyInGMINOR said:

Why on earth is the portly wordsmith held in such high regard?



That music doesnt actually represent his music very well...more so the music speaks for itself.

I say the movie was more like a background history. It was quickly rushed together about how he got to his stardom.

There was something about the way he rhymed and the way he used his words that was unique. He did not sound like anybody else out there. He wasnt just a regular rhymer but knew how to use the melody of the music to his advantage.

Then plus he really pushed Lil' Kim's career because her first album fully represents his clever quotes and wicked rhymes. He is one of the most quoted newer rappers to date.
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Reply #5 posted 06/25/09 12:07pm

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TitWankSymphonyInGMINOR said:

rapper, graycap1923

lol.....1923?
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Reply #6 posted 06/25/09 12:09pm

Timmy84

The movie was a smoke screen for his actual life. I actually thought the movie was a bit boring tho. That said, the only thing great about his skills was that he rhymed without writing lyrics, he basically free-styled his own lyrics.
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Reply #7 posted 06/25/09 12:09pm

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Lyrically he was a genius IMO. You could read his lyrics without music and it's like poetry. Plus the fact that he didn't write lyrics and came off his dome with most of his rhymes is impressive to me. But hey, everything ain't for everybody and maybe you're not SUPPOSED to get it. shrug
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Reply #8 posted 06/25/09 12:11pm

Timmy84

SCNDLS said:

Lyrically he was a genius IMO. You could read his lyrics without music and it's like poetry. Plus the fact that he didn't write lyrics and came off his dome with most of his rhymes is impressive to me. But hey, everything ain't for everybody and maybe you're not SUPPOSED to get it. shrug


Yeah that was probably the whole point anyway. Plus he didn't play instruments, he was basically an emcee/lyricist anyway so there wasn't really much to show. lol
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Reply #9 posted 06/25/09 12:13pm

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Timmy84 said:

SCNDLS said:

Lyrically he was a genius IMO. You could read his lyrics without music and it's like poetry. Plus the fact that he didn't write lyrics and came off his dome with most of his rhymes is impressive to me. But hey, everything ain't for everybody and maybe you're not SUPPOSED to get it. shrug


Yeah that was probably the whole point anyway. Plus he didn't play instruments, he was basically an emcee/lyricist anyway so there wasn't really much to show. lol

Oh my God we posted the same thing at the same time. touched hug

But seriously, get OUTTA my head! pissed
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Reply #10 posted 06/25/09 12:21pm

Timmy84

SCNDLS said:

Timmy84 said:



Yeah that was probably the whole point anyway. Plus he didn't play instruments, he was basically an emcee/lyricist anyway so there wasn't really much to show. lol

Oh my God we posted the same thing at the same time. touched hug

But seriously, get OUTTA my head! pissed


Hell, I'm just agreeing. highfive
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Reply #11 posted 06/25/09 12:27pm

SCNDLS

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Timmy84 said:

SCNDLS said:


Oh my God we posted the same thing at the same time. touched hug

But seriously, get OUTTA my head! pissed


Hell, I'm just agreeing. highfive

I know, but that's freaky. lol
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Reply #12 posted 06/25/09 12:32pm

Timmy84

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Timmy84 said:



Hell, I'm just agreeing. highfive

I know, but that's freaky. lol


Life is freaky. biggrin

lol

But I get you, there's some points I'll be saying something and someone will say the same thing and I be like " eek " But it's cool because it shows we're like this >>>>><<<<< when it comes to things. nod
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Reply #13 posted 06/25/09 12:34pm

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Timmy84 said:

SCNDLS said:


I know, but that's freaky. lol


Life is freaky. biggrin

lol

But I get you, there's some points I'll be saying something and someone will say the same thing and I be like " eek " But it's cool because it shows we're like this >>>>><<<<< when it comes to things. nod

True that. hug
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Reply #14 posted 06/25/09 12:34pm

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Without Biggie around, Jay-Z is just another rapper, IMO. While he was alive, it made him step his game up. Jay-Z tends to get very lazy in my opinion.
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Reply #15 posted 06/25/09 12:42pm

Timmy84

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Without Biggie around, Jay-Z is just another rapper, IMO. While he was alive, it made him step his game up. Jay-Z tends to get very lazy in my opinion.


Jay-Z IS just another rapper, he's rode Big Daddy Kane, Jaz-O, BIG and Nas' coattails until the wheels fell off, now he's clinging to Beyonce to get "mainstream cred". neutral
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Reply #16 posted 06/25/09 12:46pm

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Without Biggie around, Jay-Z is just another rapper, IMO. While he was alive, it made him step his game up. Jay-Z tends to get very lazy in my opinion.

Jay's still a better lyricist than any mainstream rapper out right now IMO and also rhymes off the top of his head.
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Reply #17 posted 06/25/09 12:51pm

Timmy84

SCNDLS said:

shorttrini said:

Without Biggie around, Jay-Z is just another rapper, IMO. While he was alive, it made him step his game up. Jay-Z tends to get very lazy in my opinion.

Jay's still a better lyricist than any mainstream rapper out right now IMO and also rhymes off the top of his head.
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Yeah but that is saying a lot tho, you know?
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Reply #18 posted 06/25/09 12:52pm

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Timmy84 said:

SCNDLS said:


Jay's still a better lyricist than any mainstream rapper out right now IMO and also rhymes off the top of his head.
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Yeah but that is saying a lot tho, you know?

sigh You gotta pernt. I can't talk cuz I haven't bought his last 2 albums. I'm happy to live in the past. cloud9
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Reply #19 posted 06/25/09 12:53pm

Timmy84

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Timmy84 said:



Yeah but that is saying a lot tho, you know?

sigh You gotta pernt. I can't talk cuz I haven't bought his last 2 albums. I'm happy to live in the past. cloud9


And you'll be happy not to. I heard some songs from the last two albums and they really sucked. He's fallen off something major. disbelief
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Reply #20 posted 06/25/09 12:53pm

Harlepolis

I'm with you all the way Cynda.

And can we talk about the obvious? The fact that he built this legacy in such a short period DESPITE the 3 media HELL NOs(overweight, too dark and TOO UGLY) shows that the man had substance & charisma to match.

He's def a "once in a liftetime" phenomenon.
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Reply #21 posted 06/25/09 12:55pm

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Harlepolis said:

I'm with you all the way Cynda.

And can we talk about the obvious? The fact that he built this legacy in such a short period DESPITE the 3 media HELL NOs(overweight, too dark and TOO UGLY) shows that the man had substance & charisma to match.

He's def a "once in a liftetime" phenomenon.

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Even Puffy's opportunistic ass wasn't checking for him initially because of his appearance but his talent was undeniable.
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Reply #22 posted 06/25/09 12:55pm

Timmy84

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I'm with you all the way Cynda.

And can we talk about the obvious? The fact that he built this legacy in such a short period DESPITE the 3 media HELL NOs(overweight, too dark and TOO UGLY) shows that the man had substance & charisma to match.

He's def a "once in a liftetime" phenomenon.


"Heartthrob never, black and ugly as ever/however I still have coochie down to my socks..." mushy
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Reply #23 posted 06/25/09 12:57pm

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Timmy84 said:

Harlepolis said:

I'm with you all the way Cynda.

And can we talk about the obvious? The fact that he built this legacy in such a short period DESPITE the 3 media HELL NOs(overweight, too dark and TOO UGLY) shows that the man had substance & charisma to match.

He's def a "once in a liftetime" phenomenon.


"Heartthrob never, black and ugly as ever/however I still have coochie down to my socks..." mushy

Actually, i think it's "Coogi down to the socks" which is brand of clothing Biggie wore. geek
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Reply #24 posted 06/25/09 12:58pm

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Timmy84 said:

Harlepolis said:

I'm with you all the way Cynda.

And can we talk about the obvious? The fact that he built this legacy in such a short period DESPITE the 3 media HELL NOs(overweight, too dark and TOO UGLY) shows that the man had substance & charisma to match.

He's def a "once in a liftetime" phenomenon.


"Heartthrob never, black and ugly as ever/however I still have coochie down to my socks..." mushy


I love that line lol mushy

And the man presented SUCH a sense of humor through his lyrics, people see the "hardcore" stuff,,,but he was so witty.

I think he was the best storyteller since Slick Rick & KRS-One. And nothing sell me like storytelling music
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Reply #25 posted 06/25/09 1:01pm

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Harlepolis said:

Timmy84 said:



"Heartthrob never, black and ugly as ever/however I still have coochie down to my socks..." mushy


I love that line lol mushy

And the man presented SUCH a sense of humor through his lyrics, people see the "hardcore" stuff,,,but he was so witty.

I think he was the best storyteller since Slick Rick & KRS-One. And nothing sell me like storytelling music

Girl, me too. That's my beef with the current flavor of hip-hop: No Storyline with a beginning, a middle, and an end pissed

Even if it's all made up like Big's song, Got a Story to Tell that was some clever shit! music
But one of my fave lines is: "Navajos creep me in they teppes." I mean c'mon that's some clever shit. lol
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Reply #26 posted 06/25/09 1:02pm

Timmy84

SCNDLS said:

Timmy84 said:



"Heartthrob never, black and ugly as ever/however I still have coochie down to my socks..." mushy

Actually, i think it's "Coogi down to the socks" which is brand of clothing Biggie wore. geek


Well I was close. cool
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Reply #27 posted 06/25/09 1:02pm

Timmy84

SCNDLS said:

Harlepolis said:



I love that line lol mushy

And the man presented SUCH a sense of humor through his lyrics, people see the "hardcore" stuff,,,but he was so witty.

I think he was the best storyteller since Slick Rick & KRS-One. And nothing sell me like storytelling music

Girl, me too. That's my beef with the current flavor of hip-hop: No Storyline with a beginning, a middle, and an end pissed

Even if it's all made up like Big's song, Got a Story to Tell that was some clever shit! music
But one of my fave lines is: "Navajos creep me in they teppes." I mean c'mon that's some clever shit. lol


I still bug out over that song. Probably his finest moment ever!
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Reply #28 posted 06/25/09 1:06pm

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Timmy84 said:

SCNDLS said:


Actually, i think it's "Coogi down to the socks" which is brand of clothing Biggie wore. geek


Well I was close. cool

He talked about Coogi sweaters a lot. Must be a New York thing. lol
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Reply #29 posted 06/25/09 1:15pm

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because he got killed
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