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LET'S TALK DEBARGE! The official catch-all Debarge discussion thread - Part 2

[continuation of First thread http://prince.org/msg/8/299597, which is now lock - luv4u]



That's right, here's your place to talk about the family Debarge, their long and illustrious careers, and their current whereabouts and whatabouts.

This thread will replace the numerous Debarge threads created in this forum, and will serve as a place for Debarge fans to get their discussion ya-yas out here on prince.org.

DO NOT CREATE ANY NEW DEBARGE-RELATED THREADS AT THIS TIME. They will be deleted with the quickness.

So without any further ado, knock yourselves out with all the Debarge fan chat you can think of...![b]
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Reply #1 posted 04/08/09 12:25am

scriptgirl

Tommy Debarge and his fellow Switch member, Phillip Ingram, brother of James

Debarge

El and Flavor Flav
"Lack of home training crosses all boundaries."
Reply #2 posted 04/08/09 12:31am

scriptgirl

One of THE greatest songs in the Debarge Canon and one of the best love songs of all time

On Soul Train

El doing this on Motown Live
"Lack of home training crosses all boundaries."
Reply #3 posted 04/08/09 6:04am

TD3

Scriptgirl... I ways waiting for you to post "first". smile

I didn't get a chance to read the last article you posted about the DeBarges, could you put that back up again? Thanks

TD3
[Edited 4/24/09 16:32pm]
Reply #4 posted 04/08/09 6:38am

scriptgirl

By request, the article on the anniversary of "In A Special Way"

Article on the 25th anniversary of Debarge's classic album, "In a Speical Way:

After all, this was a good-looking quintet of teen idols aimed at kids who favoured Right On and Black Beat over Rolling Stone, a pin-up ready product of the Motown machine that brought the world their predecessors The Jackson Five. While some were generous enough to acknowledge their knack for harmonising, that was often where the praise stopped. “All style, no substance,” many critics cried.

In a Special Way — and most of the DeBarge’s work for that matter — is worthy of endless examination and praise. In a perfect world, the passage of time will have opened the minds of those who so steadfastly resisted its charms back in the day and enabled them to partake in what is simply a marvelous album from start to finish. Forever and always, it will be an unforgettable listening experience.Or so they thought.

Released on September 27, 1983, on Motown’s Gordy label, In a Special Way has grown in stature over a quarter century that has seen it emerge as a touchstone for the hip hop community and a favourite among serious soul fans thanks to an array of samples and covers. DeBarge siblings El, Bunny, James, Mark and Randy reached their creative peak here, melding the churchy vein of their songwriting and the sheen of the burgeoning synth-based R&B movement into a crisp, concise musical portrait. Light and lean, the album is a logical move beyond the more straight-forward, organic tenor of the two long-players that came before it.

By the fall of 1983, the group had established itself as one of R&B’s most popular acts with a unique brand of soul the masses first tasted via Switch, a Motown band featuring their brothers Bobby and Tommy that’s best known for the 1978 classic “There’ll Never Be.” Their promising but spotty 1981 debut The DeBarges stiffed, but the group (with younger brother James added to the lineup) hit their stride the second time around with 1982’s All This Love, a spirited album of soft funk and ballads that yielded two R&B smashes in “I Like It” and the title track. A gold seller, the album raised the group’s “it” factor considerably, landing them endless coverage in the black teen press and a coveted spot in the Emmy-winning Motown 25 special alongside label mates High Inergy. All the while, they were being touted as “the next Jacksons,” an observation that often led to them being unfairly labelled as the poor man’s version of pop
music’s quintessential dynasty.

The DeBarges were similar to the Jacksons in some respects, but a comparison to fellow singing siblings the Sylvers is far more logical. Like the Sylvers — who were key figures in the development of the Los Angeles-based Solar Records sound — the DeBarges wielded a sizeable degree of creative control over their material right out of the gate, a luxury it took the Jacksons years to secure. Their early recordings were true family affairs because each member chipped in on songwriting chores and lead vocals, an approach that gives their material a certain vibrancy and spontaneity. The trend continued on In a Special Way , with their collective abilities reaching an unmatched level of strength and vigour. Melody and harmony were emphasised more than ever before thanks in large part to El’s meticulous production work and arrangements. Whether or not this was completely intentional remains a mystery: According to All Music Guide writer Jason Elias,
rumours have swirled for years that the album’s horn tracks were lost during the recording process. “In a Special Way is one of the most spare and effective albums of the ’80s,” writes Elias, who also notes its “minimalist and artful sound.” Such praise, however, was not forthcoming when the record hit the street.

“Smart-aleck critics and R&B purists have been knocking DeBarge, Motown’s promising young pop/R&B group, for singing ‘Mary Poppins’ soul,” wrote Los Angeles Times contributor Dennis Hunt in February of 1984.” He conceded that the group was closer to the fancy of The Carpenters than the ferocity of The O’Jays, but he quickly pointed out that their detractors were dead wrong. “Rather than being castigated for singing wimpy soul, the group should be applauded for attempting to expand the horizons of R&B and for mastering a new kind of soul — silky soul.”

Still, folks like pop culture scribe Michael A. Gonzales, who wrote an excellent feature on the DeBarge family for Vibe magazine in 2007, had their minds in other musical places in 1983.

“When In a Special Way was first released, I was in the middle of my own aural love affair with artists like The Clash and David Bowie, so I really didn’t think about DeBarge much. Which is kind of funny, considering a few years before I had played ‘There’ll Never Be’ over and over,” Gonzales said. “But at 20 years old I needed something gritty, and the only falsetto-singing brother I was digging at the time was Prince.”

Needless to say, falsetto singing is where the similarities between Prince and DeBarge pretty much end. Unlike Prince, DeBarge knew how to wrap their creations in a veil of subtlety, favouring lush introspection over carnal acrobatics. The LP’s highlights were the two hit singles, as “Time Will Reveal” and “Love Me In a Special Way” (which featured Stevie Wonder on harmonica) seamlessly blend the high drama of the old school with the glam of nascent synth soul. As the group’s mastermind and lead vocalist, El was able to tease a dark underpinning out of his siblings’ blends in the same way Maurice White did with The Emotions, a tactic that makes their work much more intelligent than many realise. The harmonies and melodic climaxes of the two songs are so overwhelming that it’s easy to forget the group is singing about love that is in a sense imperfect. The other ballads are equally engaging, with “Queen of My Heart” (a selection
co-produced by brother Bobby that first appeared on their debut), the dramatic “Stay With Me” and “A Dream” augmenting the album’s recurring theme of love and longing. The latter, which was penned and led by sister Bunny, has aged particularly well and was a perfect way to close the album.

Outside of all of the billowy romanticism were some solid up-tempo grooves. The group wouldn’t really get a firm grip on the dance music medium until 1985’s Rhythm of the Night, but they managed to churn out some delightful ditties: “Be My Lady” and “Need Somebody” were perfect vehicles for James’ agile tenor, while the catchy “Baby, Won’t Cha Come Quick” rides into dance-rock territory on the back of a searing guitar solo. “I Give Up on You” was the best of the lot, an El-led dancer written by James and the legendary Billy Preston that boasts a frenetic, feel-good arrangement. “The quirky pop vocals on the tracks “Be My Lady” and “I Give Up on You” remind me of the style Scritti Politti used two years later on Cupid & Psyche 85,” Gonzales said.

DeBarge would reach their commercial zenith with Rhythm of the Night, but most agree In a Special Way is the greatest testament to the group’s artistry. The album earned them their second gold certification and scored a Grammy nomination for best R&B performance by a duo or group, an award they lost to Rufus and Chaka Khan’s “Ain’t Nobody.” The album has been a constant source of inspiration to the black music community, as Tupac, Mary J. Blige, the Notorious B.I.G., Blackstreet, Tamia, Ashanti and Mariah Carey, among countless others, have all covered or sampled one of its nine cuts. It is easily one of the most sampled R&B albums of all time.

Today, interest in the DeBarge family continues to grow. Both Bunny and DeBarge matriarch Etterlene have penned memoirs, and U.S. cable network TV One will profile the family act on Unsung, a series premiering November 30 that will tell the stories of some of R&B’s most talented and underrated artists. Indeed, it seems the group may finally be getting its due.

In a Special Way — and most of the DeBarge’s work for that matter — is worthy of endless examination and praise. In a perfect world, the passage of time will have opened the minds of those who so steadfastly resisted its charms back in the day and enabled them to partake in what is simply a marvelous album from start to finish. Forever and always, it will be an unforgettable listening experience.

“Without a doubt, In a Special Way is a classic,” Gonzales said. “I just wish I had discovered it sooner.”

Others who take the time to listen to the music will surely come to the same conclusion.

—S.E. Flemming Jr
Saturday 27 September 2008
"Lack of home training crosses all boundaries."
Reply #5 posted 04/08/09 1:12pm

TD3

Thank you script..." for re-posting this article.

Mr. Flemmings 25 year retrospective of "In a Special Way" was very well written, thoughtful, and intelligent. The DeBarge's as a groups and as individuals could have and should have have done so much more. Piety. What might have been. sad

The Jackson 5 have always been the group that other family music groups have been judged by; I was glad someone finally made a connection between the DeBarges and the Sylvers. The Jackson's just had a very different vibe and as amazing as they were, harmonizing wasn't something they did or as well as the DeBarges or the Sylvers. Though I always thought the DeBarge family across the board were better individual singers than the Sylvers; their (Sylvers) voices were just a bit thin.

All This Love, needs to be re-released. For those who may not have noticed, iTunes does have El's debut solo album up. If you type in DeBarge they have the album cover of El's solo debut but with the wrong tracks from the, Rhythm of the Night Cd. You have to type in El's name to get the right music with the right music cover. smile
[Edited 4/8/09 14:48pm]
Reply #6 posted 04/09/09 12:30am

scriptgirl

I admit I know next to nothing about the Sylvers and curiously, they don't seem to be much remembered today. People make the jump from the Jackson to the Debarges without ever really thinking of the Sylvers, somehow. You never hear the Sylvers music on the radio, ever.But this is not a Debarge vs The Sylvers thread.

Here is El, doing "Heart, Mind and Soul"

"Lack of home training crosses all boundaries."
Reply #7 posted 04/09/09 3:12am

TD3

scriptgirl said:

I admit I know next to nothing about the Sylvers and curiously, they don't seem to be much remembered today. People make the jump from the Jackson to the Debarges without ever really thinking of the Sylvers, somehow. You never hear the Sylvers music on the radio, ever.But this is not a Debarge vs The Sylvers thread.


smile Oh, by no means, but with in the context of the article.

I think Flemming's did what a lot of people very seldom do, he looked at an artist works (DeBarge) in conjunction with their past/present contemporaries. No, you don't hear Sylvers music ever but you don't hear Jackson's 5 music ever these days.. at least in my area. That's amazing when you think of Gary being only 35 miles away from Chicago. Hell, you don't hear a lot of MJ. I don't hear a lot of DeBarge's music on the radio that much either. That's unfortunate because some think when you don't get radio play, it's kinda a statement of your importance or lack there of.

I'm not big listener of Rap but one wonders if the DeBarge music would've met the the same fate without sampling or the emergence of the Internet?

Since all R&B family groups have always been compared with the Jackson's, I was impressed that my Flemming was astute enough to see all those musical families a distinct talents and tell us why. How the DeBarge's can and did stand alone on their own unique artistic contribution. Yes, that contribution in terms of volume has been "small" but it's impact has been HUGH, long lasting, and underappreciated, still. That was my point.
[Edited 4/24/09 17:00pm]
Reply #8 posted 04/09/09 6:43am

scriptgirl

Really, the only reason the Debarge legacy has been kept alive is through sampling. Also, the Vibe article and Unsung have REALLY got people talking about them again, thank goodness. Chico recently said the internet is a good thing as far as his family because it keeps their music alive and it is true. When you read comments on Debarge youtube vids, a lot of people say they only knew the song through sampling or they just found out about them through Unsung.
"Lack of home training crosses all boundaries."
Reply #9 posted 04/10/09 2:32am

Sandino

Forgive me for not knowing but who exactly is DeBarge? I never heard of them growing up.
Did Prince ever deny he had sex with his sister? I believe not. So there U have it..
http://prince.org/msg/8/327790?&pg=2
Reply #10 posted 04/10/09 6:43am

scriptgirl

From Wikipedia:
DeBarge was an American music group, whose repertoire included R&B, soul, funk, and later gospel. Active as a professional recording group between 1979 and 1989, the group was one of the few recording acts to bring success to the Motown label during the 1980s.

Background
Hailing from Detroit, Michigan and later from Grand Rapids, Michigan, the group is named for their shared surname, and included the brothers Mark (or "Marty"), James, Randy, and Eldra (or "El"), and their sister Bunny. Younger siblings Chico, Darryl, and Carol "Peaches" DeBarge are also singers (though they were not with the group), with Chico later becoming a solo star in his own right. Two older brothers, Robert Jr. (Bobby) and Tommy were members of another popular Motown group named Switch. The DeBarges signed with the Motown record label in the 1970s, and became one of their few successful acts during the 1980s.

The band had a string of R&B and pop hits in the early to mid 1980's, including "All This Love," "I Like It," "Love Me in a Special Way," and "Rhythm of the Night." Many of these hits were ballads, spreading the band's appeal into the adult contemporary market as well. However, in 1986, both El and Bunny DeBarge left for solo careers. The remaining brothers soldiered on with their older brother Bobby (who'd long since left Switch) now joining the band to release the album Bad Boys in 1987, but it didn't achieve nearly the success of previous releases. Meanwhile, El went on to have a moderately successful solo career, and Bunny would score a minor hit with "Save the Best for Me (Best of Your Lovin')" from her only solo album before being abruptly dropped by her label. Overall, DeBarge released nine Top 40 R&B singles, five top 40 pop singles, two pop top ten hits, five top ten R&B singles, two number-one R&B singles, a number-one single on the dance chart and three number-one hits on the adult contemporary chart.


[edit] History

[edit] Early years
In 1977, elder siblings Tommy DeBarge and Bobby DeBarge formed a group called Switch along with Jody Sims, Greg Williams, Phillip Ingram and Eddie Fluellen. They were discovered by Motown artist Jermaine Jackson, and signed to the Motown label that same year. Switch recorded several hits for Motown's Gordy label, including "There'll Never Be" and "I Call Your Name". Around this time managers of Switch also became aware of Bobby and Tommy's younger brothers including Randy, Marty and El, whose vocal talent was often compared to Bobby's. Including eldest sister Bunny in the mix. After an impromptu audition in front of Jermaine Jackson, who was producing Switch, the group was signed to Motown's Gordy imprint in 1979 as a quartet of Bunny, Randy, Marty and El (younger brother James would join in 1982). As "The DeBarges", they released their self-titled debut in 1981 featuring the first single, "What's Your Name." Neither the album nor the single charted, and the group was later determined to produce themselves on the next record.


[edit] Success years
Following a new lineup - now featuring James DeBarge in the fold - the newly christened quintet, DeBarge, record a mostly self-penned and produced album titled All This Love in 1982. After releasing the dance single, "Stop! Don't Tease Me", the group released the smoother "I Like It", in January 1983. Featuring lead vocals from Randy and El, the song raced up to number two on the Billboard R&B singles chart while also crossing over to pop radio eventually peaking at number 31 on the Billboard Hot 100. A second single, the sole El DeBarge composition, "All This Love", became an even bigger hit reaching number one on the R&B chart and peaking at number 17 on the pop chart and also becoming the group's first number-one hit on the Billboard AC chart. Its success helped its parent album reached gold status. DeBarge made their first live appearance on Motown 25, where they performed a number with fellow Motown band High Inergy.

In 1983, the group quickly issued a third album, In a Special Way, which would end up becoming a memorable album for R&B music lovers due to El's smooth vocals and songwriting approach. The album yielded the hits "Time Will Reveal" (another R&B number one) and "Love Me in a Special Way" (which featured a rare harmonica solo from Stevie Wonder) and matched the success of its predecessor going gold. Following the album's release, the group went on the road in 1984 as Luther Vandross' opening act but according to an article about the DeBarge family on VIBE magazine, James DeBarge recounts how the group used to get mobbed everywhere they went and that's what made them realized how famous they had become. Following a successful touring year, in 1985, the group issued the Rhythm of the Night, including the "title track", originally featured on the Motown film, The Last Dragon, which granted the group their biggest pop success reaching number three on the Billboard Hot 100 becoming their biggest-selling and most successful single to date. Another hit, "Who's Holding Donna Now", also went to the pop top ten helping the album to also hit gold status.

By now, Motown was building El DeBarge as the focal point of the group and some singles were released under the moniker, DeBarge featuring El DeBarge, bringing back memories of when Motown CEO Berry Gordy had changed the names of some of his famous Motown groups including The Supremes, changing their name to Diana Ross and the Supremes to reflect the rising star of its lead singer. Etterlene "Mama" DeBarge, the group's mother, said that Motown had El "believing he would be a superstar" saying later that the label "didn't realize (Gordy) was dividing a family and not a group". After the releases of "The Heart Is Not So Smart" and "You Wear It Well", which they performed on The Facts of Life tv show, El DeBarge promptly left DeBarge to become a solo artist, prompting Bunny DeBarge to follow him out of the group. While El achieved substantial solo success with the singles "Who's Johnny" and "Love Always", he didn't become the solo star Motown had hoped, Bunny only released one solo album and retired from show business after that to deal with a substance abuse problem.

The Miami Vice TV Show Episode "Bought and Paid For" (1985) also featured DeBarge (although not all members) singing their two songs "You Wear It Well" and "Rhythm of the Night".


[edit] Decline
Following the exits of El and Bunny, DeBarge struggled to find a hit. Leaving Motown for Striped Horse Records in 1987, they recruited older brother Bobby, who had been mentoring the group following his split from Switch in 1981, as a member releasing their final album, Bad Boys. Featuring the singles "(Bad Boys) Dance All Night" and "I Got You Babe", with James and Bobby taking lead on the respective songs, the album tanked due to little promotion. Following a tour and an appearance on the Punky Brewster show, Bobby and younger brother Chico DeBarge, then riding high off the success of his single, "Talk to Me", was arrested in Grand Rapids, Michigan for drug trafficking serving five years in prison in Milan. The conviction promptly ended DeBarge's career as they disbanded shortly thereafter in 1989 leaving the rest of the members to deal with their substance abuse problems. James, who had made headlines for marrying singer Janet Jackson of the famous Jackson family in 1984, had long struggled with drug and alcohol abuse and later successfully completed rehab in the mid-1990s. Randy, Marty and elder brother Tommy also recovered from drug abuse but suffered consequences as Tommy now reportedly suffers from kidney dialysis, Randy has an incurable unknown disease, and Marty suffers from chronic debilitation in his legs. After Bunny became sober, she became a born-again Christian. El continued a modestly successful solo career recording vocals for the 1990 Quincy Jones hit, "Secret Garden", and Fourplay's 1991 cover of Marvin Gaye's "After the Dance". In 1994, Bobby and Chico were released from prison after serving their five-year sentences. During the prison intake process, Bobby found out he had AIDS which he contracted through heroin use. In 1995, Bobby DeBarge died from complications of the disease at the age of 39. Bobby's death reportedly devastated El, who his mother said, wasn't the same after his brother's death.


[edit] Recent years
In 1998, the DeBarge brothers - El, Marty, Randy and James - reunited for several shows including Sinbad's Summer Jam concert in Aruba where they performed "I Like It" and "All This Love". Around this time, records released by DeBarge were being played again due to hip-hop singers and rap acts sampling the group. The band's album track, "Stay With Me", was first sampled in 1994 by The Notorious B.I.G., who used the ending instrumental of El playing piano for his remix of the single, "One More Chance". The same instrumental loop was used in Big L's "MVP" and Ashanti's "Foolish". More recently, Mariah Carey used samples from this song for "I'll Be Lovin' U Long Time", track included in her latest album "E=MC²". "Time Will Reveal" is often covered by R&B groups such as Blackstreet, who interpolated the song into a gospel ballad, "The Lord Is Real (Time Will Reveal)", while Boyz II Men did an a cappella version of the song on one of their more recent albums. "Love Me In a Special Way" was covered by IMX and singer Tamia and was sampled by Ashanti and rapper AZ. "I Like It" is probably the group's most beloved single, as certain elements of the song have been either sampled or repeated (El's bridge in the song, "I like the way you comb your hair/I like the stylish clothes you wear...", has been constantly repeated over and over again) while "All This Love" was also sampled by AZ and covered by Patti LaBelle. In 2007, DeBarge was famously sampled again when Bobby's band Switch's hit, "I Call Your Name", was sampled for Rich Boy's hit, "Throw Some D's".

In the following years, Chico DeBarge emerged as a solo star with a repertoire of neo soul and hip-hop soul with hits such as "Iggin' Me", "No Guarantees" and "Soopaman Lover" while the group's youngest sibling, Darrell "Young" DeBarge released his first album, The Hunt, in 2007. While Carol "Peaches" DeBarge has no intention to try a secular solo career, she did participate in a 1991 album featuring members of her family including some of her brothers, sister Bunny and mother Etterlene titled Back on Track. As of 2008, the surviving members of DeBarge have lived quiet lives though they are still contemplating releasing albums. In November of 2007, El, Marty and James sang together during a Thanksgiving special service at the Destiny Community Church in Whittier, California. In 2008, Etterlene DeBarge released the autobiography, Other Side of the Pain, which documented her family's troubled childhoods, their rise to fame and their troubles while under the glare of the spotlight. Daughter Bunny is also planning an autobiography about her family titled The Kept Ones and is working on a gospel album.
"Lack of home training crosses all boundaries."
Reply #11 posted 04/10/09 6:47am

scriptgirl

Info about Chico's new album, via the site Singersroom:

Former "Talk To Me" singer Chico DeBarge is close to releasing the long-anticipated album "Addiction" this summer !

"Addiction," DeBarge's first release since 2003s "Free," will be released under the singer's new deal with Kedar Entertainment.

As previously reported on Singersroom, the album is confirmed to feature a collaboration with labelmate and fellow R&B singer Joe who is due to release an album this summer.

Joe, speaking with Singersroom says "I have to say ("Addiction") it’s going to be one of the best albums coming out in this decade simply because it is one of the most honest albums I have heard. He’s got a story to tell and I definitely support what he does."

A single from the Chico DeBarge's "Addiction" album will be released soon.

"Addiction" is slated for release via Kedar Entertainment June 30.
"Lack of home training crosses all boundaries."
Reply #12 posted 04/10/09 10:20am

TD3

Sandino said:

Forgive me for not knowing but who exactly is DeBarge? I never heard of them growing up.


DeBarge Albums
1981: The DeBarges (Motown) - (Not in print)
1982: All This Love (Motown)- (Not in print)
1983: In a Special Way (Motown)- (In print Amazon/Itunes/www.lala.com)
1985: Rhythm of the Night (Motown)- (In print Amazon/Itunes/www.lala.com)
1986: Greatest Hits (Motown) - (In print Amazon/Itunes/www.lala.com)
1987: Bad Boys (Striped Horse) - (Not in print)
1991: Back on Track (Truth Ministries) - (Don't know)
1997: Ultimate Collection (Motown)-(In print Amazon/Itunes/www.lala.com)
2000: 20th Century Masters Present: The Best of DeBarge (Motown)- (In print Amazon/Itunes/www.lala.com)


El DeBarge - Solo Career, Albums

1986: El DeBarge (In Print - Amazon/iTunes/www.lala.com)
1989: Gemini - (Not in Print)
1992: In The Storm - (In Print - Amazon/iTunes/www.lala.com)
1994: Heart, Mind and Soul - (In Print - Amazon/iTunes/www.lala.com)
2003: Ultimate Collection - (In Print - Amazon/iTunes/www.lala.com)

Bunny DeBarge - Sole solo album:
1986: In Love - (Not in Print and I'm not sure if it was ever re-released on Cd)

Of course you can listen/checkout a lot of DeBarge music on Youtube, LastFm, and IMEEM.

Chico DeBarge Albums:
1986: Chico DeBarge - (Not In Print)
1988: Kiss Serious - (Not In Print)
1997: Long Time No See - (In print Amazon, iTunes, www.lala.com)
1999: The Game - (In print Amazon, iTunes, www.lala.com)
2003: Free - (Not In Print)
2009: Addiction June 2009 album
Reply #13 posted 04/10/09 11:48pm

scriptgirl

El onstage with Tyrese and Ginuwine for a tribute to Patti Labelle

here is the direct link to the video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=02VURfQXFZA&feature=channel_page
[Edited 4/11/09 12:57pm]
"Lack of home training crosses all boundaries."
Reply #14 posted 04/11/09 8:17am

RosesRred

The videos are nice.
I don't think EL was a good
choice for the Luther
tribute but he did do his
part like a true Debarge.
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*never give Up.♥
Reply #15 posted 04/11/09 8:39am

scriptgirl

Actually the performance was for a tribute to Patti Labelle
"Lack of home training crosses all boundaries."
Reply #16 posted 04/11/09 11:15am

RosesRred

scriptgirl said:

Actually the performance was for a tribute to Patti Labelle



The video that I watched was a tribute to
Luther because the link you provided you cannot
open at this time
so I clicked on the video with
EL and J.Gill and K. Lattimore and Whitney.
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*never give Up.♥
Reply #17 posted 04/11/09 12:58pm

scriptgirl

I posted the direct to the patti labelle tribute under the video
"Lack of home training crosses all boundaries."
Reply #18 posted 04/13/09 4:55pm

Chic35

eek I was shocked to go to both of El's pages on myspace and it shows him as single I thought he was married? I am not sure if it is an offical myspace but, there are some very personal pics of him with friends and family pictures. Everybody thought the drug curse would end with El but sometimes the apple don't fall far from the tree. I am johnnie come late because I just saw the Unsung Debarges and it was sad... His wife monique looks like she was high on drugs herself! I didn't see not one single picture of her on either page or his relatives pages either.


Chico still look good too!
The message you are about to hear are not meant for transmission. Should ONLY be accessed in the privacy of your mind. Words are so intense so if you dare to listen.Take off your clothes and meet me between the lines. wildsign
Reply #19 posted 04/13/09 5:37pm

scriptgirl

El and Monique have had a tempestous relationship for years and from what I gather, are legally seperated. I also understand that Monique is NO ONE to fuck around with. She does not play.
"Lack of home training crosses all boundaries."
Reply #20 posted 04/14/09 7:16am

destinyc1

scriptgirl my fav was 'love always' do you have that on youtube.
Reply #21 posted 04/14/09 7:45am

scriptgirl

I will look and see. If that was a song El did while he was on Warners, the answer is no, since Warners has pulled all their music from youtube.
"Lack of home training crosses all boundaries."
Reply #22 posted 04/14/09 10:32am

scriptgirl

From All Hip Hop.com

Famed music producer/singer Kenneth “Babyface” Edmonds is returning to overseeing the careers of singing sensations, with the launch of his new record label Sodapop Music.



News of Sodapop’s arrival comes years after Edmonds co-founded the iconic Hip-Hop/R&B label, LaFace Records, with fellow music mogul L. A. Reid.



During its heyday in the 1990’s LaFace introduced the public to revered Atlanta rap duo Outkast as well as fellow rappers Goodie Mob, Cee-Lo Green, Dolla and Youngbloodz and Petey Pablo.



The label’s golden touch extended into R&B with the arrival of TLC, Toni Braxton and Usher as well as Ciara, Pink, Donnell Jones and Tony Rich.



Edmonds and Reid parted ways with LaFace by the end of the ‘90s as Edmonds concentrated on his music career while producing fewer LaFace artists.



Reid followed suit in 2001 after he was appointed chairman/CEO of Arista Records, which had joined with BMG Records to acquire LaFace completely in 1999.



Reid currently serves as the chairman of Island Def Jam Music Group Edmonds hopes to repeat the success he had with LaFace at Sodapop Music, utilizing Island Def Jam's newest artist, Kristinia Debarge.



The 19-year-old entertainer, who is the daughter of DeBarge keyboardist and founding member James DeBarge, is creating a buzz for her forthcoming debut album with the release of her new song, “Goodbye.”



Edmonds played an active role in the project’s creation by writing and producing many of the tracks featured on the album, including “Goodbye.”



In the coming weeks, Kristinia DeBarge will shoot a video for the single in Los Angeles.



The singer’s debut album is slated to hit stores in the summer.
"Lack of home training crosses all boundaries."
Reply #23 posted 04/15/09 7:30am

BarackNRolla

I'm so confused. In part 1 of this forum, someone had posted the interview El did with Donnie Simpson and he said a thank you to four very special people in his life at the time. Someone had said that he didn't mention 2 other children that was born around the time of his interview. He had a set of twins around this time? I'm really confused because it looks like the kids he had with Monique are all around the same age or year or two apart from one another..Ol gurl was poppin them out like that!! Go ahead girl because I couldn't see myself having all those kids!!! LOL!!I know of Adris,Lil El, Joshua and Kendell. But who else is left and exactly how many times has Mr. DeBarge been married? confuse
Reply #24 posted 04/15/09 8:14am

scriptgirl

El has been married 3 times. His kids are Adris, El Debarge Jr, Josh and Kendall, the 5 with Monique and 2 other sons named Nicholas and Noah.
"Lack of home training crosses all boundaries."
Reply #25 posted 04/15/09 2:26pm

BarackNRolla

Oh Okay!!! Thanks for getting me updated. Was he married to Nicholas and Noah's mom?
Reply #26 posted 04/15/09 2:57pm

scriptgirl

The only women El has been married to are the mothers of El Debarge Jr ( who as a Soul Train dancer), his ex Tracy, the mother of Josh and Kendall and Monique. No idea who Noah and Nicholas' moms are.
"Lack of home training crosses all boundaries."
Reply #27 posted 04/17/09 4:20am

daingermouz2020

I wish Kristinia all the luck. I just hope she's promoted well. And somehow they can give her the Debarge sound which will be kinda hard since El is not involved. Hopefully face can construct something similiar to what he did with El. It was Face produced but it was still reminiscent of the the old Debarge sound just updated.
Reply #28 posted 04/17/09 7:16am

scriptgirl

I hope she is promoted well and she can sing, but I think the Debarge sound as we know it, would not be relevant. Plus, Kristinia needs her own sound.
"Lack of home training crosses all boundaries."
Reply #29 posted 04/17/09 7:19am

scriptgirl

"Lack of home training crosses all boundaries."
Reply #30 posted 04/17/09 7:25am

scriptgirl

El visiting Bobby while Bobby was in jail

James and Chico

Chico and El
"Lack of home training crosses all boundaries."
Reply #31 posted 04/17/09 7:30am

scriptgirl

The Song That Truly Started it All-"I Like It"

A Rare Live Perfomance

El on Motown Live doing "I Like It"

El in 97 doing the song with DJ Quik

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[Edited 4/17/09 7:32am]
"Lack of home training crosses all boundaries."
Reply #32 posted 04/17/09 10:53pm

Chic35

On Bunny's myspace she has a powerful testimony talking about her addiction and it is very touching! I didn't know she got in trouble with the law like the others did I was so shocked; she also said that is what made her seek help! She said she went from a cigarette to a joint and graduated to weed then pills. Later when Debarge disbanded she couldn't get the pills back home so she started using crack cocaine and heroine, damn she laid it all out there and my hat goes off to her. On Peaches Debarge page it shows she is divorced now and I was just on her page like 3 weeks ago and it showed her as being happily married! Are they lying one minute they married the next minute they single? Oh hell I guess it just depends on what day they wanna be involved with somebody I guess. I think Peaches is off of drugs now it was said she had a serious drug problem as well.

Bunny said she felt like a half-breed freak before she became famous from the Debarge group! That sound crazy to me cause they were a beautiful family...

Hopefully this will make El wanna get his priorities straight cause he is too handsome to be in jail..... and I hope he comes out okay cause Chico had a hard time in prison, a real hard time....did I mention he had a hard time!
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Reply #33 posted 04/18/09 9:47am

scriptgirl

Maybe Peaches was divorced for a while and finally felt ok with putting it on her myspace. Or maybe she was hoping they would get back together.
"Lack of home training crosses all boundaries."
Reply #34 posted 04/18/09 11:04am

dreamfactory313

Kristinia DeBarge - Goodbye

James DeBarge's daughter.
Reply #35 posted 04/18/09 11:14am

scriptgirl

I posted that already on the previous page
"Lack of home training crosses all boundaries."
Reply #36 posted 04/19/09 9:40am

scriptgirl

The release date for Chico's new cd, "Addiction" is July 14th.
Peep this:

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"Lack of home training crosses all boundaries."
Reply #37 posted 04/19/09 4:39pm

DaTruthdotcom

Chic35 said:

eek I was shocked to go to both of El's pages on myspace and it shows him as single I thought he was married? I am not sure if it is an offical myspace but, there are some very personal pics of him with friends and family pictures. Everybody thought the drug curse would end with El but sometimes the apple don't fall far from the tree. I am johnnie come late because I just saw the Unsung Debarges and it was sad... His wife monique looks like she was high on drugs herself! I didn't see not one single picture of her on either page or his relatives pages either.


Chico still look good too!


He has no OFFICIAL myspace page... those r just fan pages
Reply #38 posted 04/19/09 5:40pm

scriptgirl

"Lack of home training crosses all boundaries."
Reply #39 posted 04/19/09 9:57pm

tat2s

really good doc on Debarge and where they are at now... (well excluding the recent drug busts and all ) sad



Part 1:


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Reply #40 posted 04/19/09 10:48pm

scriptgirl

There haven't been any recent drug busts. confused
"Lack of home training crosses all boundaries."
Reply #41 posted 04/20/09 7:00am

destinyc1

Thats a nice pix of them can you write who is who in the order of the way they are standing thanks.
Reply #42 posted 04/20/09 8:55am

scriptgirl

I can only point out El and James in that pic
"Lack of home training crosses all boundaries."
Reply #43 posted 04/21/09 7:57am

TD3

We always give props to the Debarge men less give their big sister her due. 8-

Bunny.
Reply #44 posted 04/21/09 8:52am

scriptgirl

Goodness me, that song is awful. I am quite sure Bunny didn't write it. If she and El had written her solo material, that cd might have taken off.
"Lack of home training crosses all boundaries."
Reply #45 posted 04/21/09 9:49am

destinyc1

TD3 said:

We always give props to the Debarge men less give their big sister her due. 8-

Bunny.

My fav from bunny is 'A dream' that song shows her range.But,i agree with you its time to show the others some love.
Reply #46 posted 04/21/09 10:01am

TD3

scriptgirl said:

Goodness me, that song is awful. I am quite sure Bunny didn't write it. If she and El had written her solo material, that cd might have taken off.



lol That's a'right... I liked Bunny's solo album. smile Here is another song where Bunny sings lead. No, it's not from her solo album of course.

Reply #47 posted 04/21/09 10:12am

scriptgirl

Not a fan of that song either. Bunny's voice is really tailor made for gospel, not so much pop.
"Lack of home training crosses all boundaries."
Reply #48 posted 04/22/09 10:19am

RosesRred

If Kristina Debarge's name was not attatched to that "Goodbye" song,
I would have never known it was by a Debarge or any other
female singer because
I thought it was Rihanna singing that song. They know
(singers) should always come
out with their own sound when starting off.. confused if that is
the first single they better put out a remix version with
"I am not Rihanna...hey..hey..hey..heyyyyy...gooodbyeeeee


wink
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*never give Up.♥
Reply #49 posted 04/22/09 10:23am

scriptgirl

Kristinia sounds very generic on that song, it is true. She actually does have a good voice, but it has been pro-tooled to death.
"Lack of home training crosses all boundaries."
Reply #50 posted 04/23/09 10:21am

daPrettyman

scriptgirl said:

Tommy Debarge and his fellow Switch member, Phillip Ingram, brother of James

Debarge

El and Flavor Flav

Is the guy on the left the guy from Whodini?
**--••--**--••**--••--**--••**--••--**--••**--••-
U 'gon make me shake my doo loose!
http://www.twitter.com/nivlekbrad
Reply #51 posted 04/23/09 10:28am

daPrettyman

scriptgirl said:

From All Hip Hop.com

Famed music producer/singer Kenneth “Babyface” Edmonds is returning to overseeing the careers of singing sensations, with the launch of his new record label Sodapop Music.



News of Sodapop’s arrival comes years after Edmonds co-founded the iconic Hip-Hop/R&B label, LaFace Records, with fellow music mogul L. A. Reid.



During its heyday in the 1990’s LaFace introduced the public to revered Atlanta rap duo Outkast as well as fellow rappers Goodie Mob, Cee-Lo Green, Dolla and Youngbloodz and Petey Pablo.



The label’s golden touch extended into R&B with the arrival of TLC, Toni Braxton and Usher as well as Ciara, Pink, Donnell Jones and Tony Rich.



Edmonds and Reid parted ways with LaFace by the end of the ‘90s as Edmonds concentrated on his music career while producing fewer LaFace artists.



Reid followed suit in 2001 after he was appointed chairman/CEO of Arista Records, which had joined with BMG Records to acquire LaFace completely in 1999.



Reid currently serves as the chairman of Island Def Jam Music Group Edmonds hopes to repeat the success he had with LaFace at Sodapop Music, utilizing Island Def Jam's newest artist, Kristinia Debarge.



The 19-year-old entertainer, who is the daughter of DeBarge keyboardist and founding member James DeBarge, is creating a buzz for her forthcoming debut album with the release of her new song, “Goodbye.”



Edmonds played an active role in the project’s creation by writing and producing many of the tracks featured on the album, including “Goodbye.”



In the coming weeks, Kristinia DeBarge will shoot a video for the single in Los Angeles.



The singer’s debut album is slated to hit stores in the summer.

I've heard the new single. It's not bad. It's also being used in some commercial that I can't recall.
**--••--**--••**--••--**--••**--••--**--••**--••-
U 'gon make me shake my doo loose!
http://www.twitter.com/nivlekbrad
Reply #52 posted 04/23/09 10:58am

scriptgirl

Kristinia's song is in the new Nivea spot-good marketing for her. She has a very commercial, exotic, slightly, generic look.
Don't know who the guy on the left is.
"Lack of home training crosses all boundaries."
Reply #53 posted 04/23/09 11:01am

scriptgirl

Here is the remix to the song:

I could easily see Kristinia having her own Disney show.
"Lack of home training crosses all boundaries."
Reply #54 posted 04/23/09 12:08pm

DesireeNevermind

Chic35 said:

On Bunny's myspace she has a powerful testimony talking about her addiction and it is very touching! I didn't know she got in trouble with the law like the others did I was so shocked; she also said that is what made her seek help! She said she went from a cigarette to a joint and graduated to weed then pills. Later when Debarge disbanded she couldn't get the pills back home so she started using crack cocaine and heroine, damn she laid it all out there and my hat goes off to her. On Peaches Debarge page it shows she is divorced now and I was just on her page like 3 weeks ago and it showed her as being happily married! Are they lying one minute they married the next minute they single? Oh hell I guess it just depends on what day they wanna be involved with somebody I guess. I think Peaches is off of drugs now it was said she had a serious drug problem as well.

Bunny said she felt like a half-breed freak before she became famous from the Debarge group! That sound crazy to me cause they were a beautiful family...

Hopefully this will make El wanna get his priorities straight cause he is too handsome to be in jail..... and I hope he comes out okay cause Chico had a hard time in prison, a real hard time....did I mention he had a hard time!



are you trying to say he got raped in prison?? sad
Reply #55 posted 04/23/09 12:10pm

DesireeNevermind

scriptgirl said:

Kristinia's song is in the new Nivea spot-good marketing for her. She has a very commercial, exotic, slightly, generic look.
Don't know who the guy on the left is.



I like the song...she sounds like a mix of brittney and jojo. she looks a lot like James. who is her mother?
Reply #56 posted 04/23/09 1:37pm

scriptgirl

Desiree< I think you should pm that poster re your Chico question.
"Lack of home training crosses all boundaries."
Reply #57 posted 04/23/09 1:37pm

scriptgirl

Not sure who Kristinia's mom is other than she is not a celeb.
"Lack of home training crosses all boundaries."
Reply #58 posted 04/23/09 1:40pm

DesireeNevermind

scriptgirl said:

Desiree< I think you should pm that poster re your Chico question.


i hope i get an answer confused
Reply #59 posted 04/23/09 1:41pm

DesireeNevermind

scriptgirl said:

Not sure who Kristinia's mom is other than she is not a celeb.



what's her ethnicity? are she and james still together? she a stage mom?
Reply #60 posted 04/23/09 1:45pm

scriptgirl

Tommy and his first wife, Yolanda or "Duckie"

Bobby and his wife, Terri

Janet and James

El and his second wife, Tracey


El's current and maybe ex wife, Monique



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"Lack of home training crosses all boundaries."
Reply #61 posted 04/23/09 1:50pm

scriptgirl

The last of the great Debarge hits, "A Dream" It has been sampled countless times, most famously by Tupac.
"Lack of home training crosses all boundaries."
Reply #62 posted 04/23/09 1:55pm

DesireeNevermind

PRETTY!!


Reply #63 posted 04/23/09 4:18pm

Slenderoni1978

scriptgirl said:

Tommy and his first wife, Yolanda or "Duckie"

Bobby and his wife, Terri

Janet and James

El and his second wife, Tracey


El's current and maybe ex wife, Monique


[Edited 4/23/09 13:48pm]
[Edited 4/23/09 13:48pm]


That's El's second wife Tracey in that first pic with El? neutral I thought that was just a female who was interviewing El. If that's her she looks totally different from the second pic and the one that's on Mama DeBarge's web page.
Reply #64 posted 04/23/09 4:23pm

scriptgirl

Actually, I see the resemblance between the two pics of Tracey. Plus she is older in the pic on the Debarge mother's site.
"Lack of home training crosses all boundaries."
Reply #65 posted 04/23/09 4:52pm

Ottensen

Slenderoni1978 said:

scriptgirl said:

Tommy and his first wife, Yolanda or "Duckie"

Bobby and his wife, Terri

Janet and James

El and his second wife, Tracey


El's current and maybe ex wife, Monique


[Edited 4/23/09 13:48pm]
[Edited 4/23/09 13:48pm]


That's El's second wife Tracey in that first pic with El? neutral I thought that was just a female who was interviewing El. If that's her she looks totally different from the second pic and the one that's on Mama DeBarge's web page.



How many times has El been married? It seems like he and his brothers have wives crawling out of the woodwork. lol
Reply #66 posted 04/23/09 4:58pm

scriptgirl

El has been married 3x. I have never seen a pic of his first wife, a Soul Train dancer who is the mother of El Debarge Jr. El's second wife was Tracey and his third and maybe ex-wife is Monique.

Tommy has been married 2x, Bobby was married just the once, James was married 2x as far as I know. Chico married once, not sure about Darrell or Marty. Randy, I believe, was also married to a Soul Train dancer and I think he is currently engaged. Bunny was married once and her sister Peaches is recently divorced.
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Reply #67 posted 04/23/09 5:05pm

DesireeNevermind

scriptgirl said:

El has been married 3x. I have never seen a pic of his first wife, a Soul Train dancer who is the mother of El Debarge Jr. El's second wife was Tracey and his third and maybe ex-wife is Monique.

Tommy has been married 2x, Bobby was married just the once, James was married 2x as far as I know. Chico married once, not sure about Darrell or Marty. Randy, I believe, was also married to a Soul Train dancer and I think he is currently engaged. Bunny was married once and her sister Peaches is recently divorced.
[Edited 4/23/09 16:59pm]



SouL Train was the joint apparently. lol
Reply #68 posted 04/23/09 6:21pm

scriptgirl

Apparently so. Those Soul Train dancers were no joke. Jody Watley used to be one.
"Lack of home training crosses all boundaries."
Reply #69 posted 04/23/09 11:02pm

Chic35

scriptgirl said:

Tommy and his first wife, Yolanda or "Duckie"

Bobby and his wife, Terri

Janet and James

El and his second wife, Tracey


El's current and maybe ex wife, Monique



[Edited 4/23/09 16:25pm]

Man El Debarge really meant the shit all this LOVE IS WAITING for you! His first wife's friend posted in a thread that when Tracey was pregnant with the second child, El was already living with another woman and the marriage was going sour, and drugs had a lot to do with it. Now Monique it was the similar scenario because they got into it about one of his sideline girlfriends causing a disturbance (according to his Mother) and it caused them to get into it, which caused him to be brought up on domestic violence charges back in 2007! El was arrested before for beating up a girlfriend on the side, in a hotel room as well, prior to him assaulting Monique, not to mention the girl he assaulted back in the mid 80's because she refused his sexual advances. The brotha CAN NOT TAKE REJECTION well. Now if he actually hit her that is a mystery to us but there was no evidence because charges was dropped. El's wives are realizing that they are not the only ones gettin the lovin... eek This is typical behavior for a handsome musician...

He means what he SINGS!!!!!

That El Debarge is a TRUE Womanizer!!!
The message you are about to hear are not meant for transmission. Should ONLY be accessed in the privacy of your mind. Words are so intense so if you dare to listen.Take off your clothes and meet me between the lines. wildsign
Reply #70 posted 04/23/09 11:39pm

scriptgirl

Not all musicians are womanizers. You can't generalize like that. Everyone is an individual. Secondly, Tracey was El's second wife, not his first and Etterlene Debarge has said many a contradictory thing over the years. Also, the charges that the girl brought in the mid 80s were not dropped-El plead guilty and did community service.

That said, yeah, El is a womanizer for sure, but it takes two to tango. The women are letting him get away with it.

Also, it is very hard to follow what you are saying because you have run on sentences and you seem to be running events together without clarifying who you are speaking of.
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Reply #71 posted 04/23/09 11:41pm

Chic35

DesireeNevermind said:

Chic35 said:

On Bunny's myspace she has a powerful testimony talking about her addiction and it is very touching! I didn't know she got in trouble with the law like the others did I was so shocked; she also said that is what made her seek help! She said she went from a cigarette to a joint and graduated to weed then pills. Later when Debarge disbanded she couldn't get the pills back home so she started using crack cocaine and heroine, damn she laid it all out there and my hat goes off to her. On Peaches Debarge page it shows she is divorced now and I was just on her page like 3 weeks ago and it showed her as being happily married! Are they lying one minute they married the next minute they single? Oh hell I guess it just depends on what day they wanna be involved with somebody I guess. I think Peaches is off of drugs now it was said she had a serious drug problem as well.

Bunny said she felt like a half-breed freak before she became famous from the Debarge group! That sound crazy to me cause they were a beautiful family...

Hopefully this will make El wanna get his priorities straight cause he is too handsome to be in jail..... and I hope he comes out okay cause Chico had a hard time in prison, a real hard time....did I mention he had a hard time!



are you trying to say he got raped in prison?? sad


Well uh, a man was in prison around the same time Chico was in there and they had him wearing WOMEN'S CLOTHING and was trying to RAPE HIM by ganging up on him all at once! This particular man and some of his buddies had to defend, on several attempts. Men ware trying rape Chico because of his soft good looking features! Chico relocated to Chicago and has left the scene of Cali! I know that was a scary thing for Chico cuz he almost ended up in the big house in California; Cali's prisons' are said to be the most dangerous ones to do time in. However Chico served his previous time in prison for selling drugs in Michigan. I don't know if they could protect him errytime but let's just assume that they did! No protection was need for Bobby...hint hint!

Bunny went to jail too and I still can't believe that! Friends of the Debarges say them boys can FIGHT LIKE HELL! El's gonna need those skills cuz if the women want him so do the men...

Looks can be soooo Decieving cuz dem Debarges look INNOCENT!
...
The message you are about to hear are not meant for transmission. Should ONLY be accessed in the privacy of your mind. Words are so intense so if you dare to listen.Take off your clothes and meet me between the lines. wildsign
Reply #72 posted 04/23/09 11:43pm

scriptgirl

Chic, you really seem to like to spread gossip and hearsay that you find on the net. Everything you read on the net is not true and should not be taken as gospel unless you have concrete sources.I am sure most of us in this thread can do without your reports. Also, Chico did time in prison in Indiana, not just Michigan. Please get your facts straight.

Secondly, El has stated through his mother that he is not in general population in jail out here in California, he is in the celebrity section.

And your use of "well,uh" to begin your sentence with does not lend credibility in the least bit to your response.

Also it is "were" not "ware". It is "everytime" not "errytime".

Also, Bobby is dead and cannot defend himself. Show some respect.

Your rumors and maliciousness are not wanted here.
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"Lack of home training crosses all boundaries."
Reply #73 posted 04/24/09 3:46am

daingermouz2020

scriptgirl said:

El has been married 3x. I have never seen a pic of his first wife, a Soul Train dancer who is the mother of El Debarge Jr. El's second wife was Tracey and his third and maybe ex-wife is Monique.

Tommy has been married 2x, Bobby was married just the once, James was married 2x as far as I know. Chico married once, not sure about Darrell or Marty. Randy, I believe, was also married to a Soul Train dancer and I think he is currently engaged. Bunny was married once and her sister Peaches is recently divorced.
[Edited 4/23/09 16:59pm]


Scriptgirl I may be wrong But I believe Bunny is on her second marriage also. Earlier in her carrier Bunny's last name was Jordan. She was said to be married to some guy named Tony Jordan now her last name is Knight. When this divorce and remarriage took place I'm not sure.
Reply #74 posted 04/24/09 8:21am

TD3

I agree with script, we should speak about things we know to be fact and what's public record. Needless to say, with the recent articles, arrests, a TV documentary, books published by Mama DeBarge and her daughter Bunny DeBarge we are all bound to have opinions. Having said that.

In State and Federal Prison the only clothing you can wear or own is what's issued by the Department of Corrections, down to their underwear. ALL articles of clothing not issued nor approved by the Department of Corrections is considered contraband, is confiscated, and thrown away. Whom every said, Chico was forced to wear women's clothing is lying.
[Edited 4/24/09 12:47pm]
Reply #75 posted 04/24/09 9:52am

DesireeNevermind

So sad such a beautiful and talented family have such problems. I wish them well and hope they are all fully or soon to be fully recovered and healed from their trials and tribulations. Jesus is needed here. Or at least some trustworthy friends and business partners. Hopefully they learn from their mistakes and I hope their children don't follow in the negative footsteps. sad
Reply #76 posted 04/24/09 10:04am

scriptgirl

Daingermouse and TD3, thank you! I was not aware Bunny had been married twice. I think she was married to the man who had the surname Jordan throughout her Debarge career, although I could be wrong.
"Lack of home training crosses all boundaries."
Reply #77 posted 04/24/09 11:32am

thatruth

Chic35 said:

DesireeNevermind said:




are you trying to say he got raped in prison?? sad


Well uh, a man was in prison around the same time Chico was in there and they had him wearing WOMEN'S CLOTHING and was trying to RAPE HIM by ganging up on him all at once! This particular man and some of his buddies had to defend, on several attempts. Men ware trying rape Chico because of his soft good looking features! Chico relocated to Chicago and has left the scene of Cali! I know that was a scary thing for Chico cuz he almost ended up in the big house in California; Cali's prisons' are said to be the most dangerous ones to do time in. However Chico served his previous time in prison for selling drugs in Michigan. I don't know if they could protect him errytime but let's just assume that they did! No protection was need for Bobby...hint hint!

Bunny went to jail too and I still can't believe that! Friends of the Debarges say them boys can FIGHT LIKE HELL! El's gonna need those skills cuz if the women want him so do the men...

Looks can be soooo Decieving cuz dem Debarges look INNOCENT!
...


Seriously, what is your point? I don't know what point you're trying to make. I honestly don't believe your source is credible, but even if something did happen to Chico, so what. What's the point of bringing it up?

A please don't come with that "hint, hint" crap about Bobby, come out and say what you want to say.
Reply #78 posted 04/24/09 11:49am

scriptgirl

I think that if people have questions for Chic, they should pm him/her. I don't want their negativity to flourish on this thread.
"Lack of home training crosses all boundaries."
Reply #79 posted 04/24/09 12:27pm

TD3

scriptgirl said:

Not a fan of that song either. Bunny's voice is really tailor made for gospel, not so much pop.


Back on topic: cool I had planned to respond to your post.

On Mama DeBarge's gospel album, "On My Knees"? I liked and downlowed the song featuring Bunny, "Trust In Jesus".
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Reply #80 posted 04/24/09 2:08pm

scriptgirl

Eh, I don't care for gospel, so I haven't listened to Etterlene's gospel recordings
"Lack of home training crosses all boundaries."
Reply #81 posted 04/24/09 3:18pm

scriptgirl

Bunny interview-it was done in Jan.09


"Lack of home training crosses all boundaries."
Reply #82 posted 04/24/09 3:35pm

scriptgirl

"Lack of home training crosses all boundaries."
Reply #83 posted 04/24/09 4:41pm

TD3

I'm glad to hear, Bunny's is writing a book 2... looking at the Motown years.
Reply #84 posted 04/24/09 5:11pm

scriptgirl

I hope she gets more publicity with the book this time around
"Lack of home training crosses all boundaries."
Reply #85 posted 04/24/09 6:00pm

Chic35

thatruth said:

Chic35 said:



Well uh, a man was in prison around the same time Chico was in there and they had him wearing WOMEN'S CLOTHING and was trying to RAPE HIM by ganging up on him all at once! This particular man and some of his buddies had to defend, on several attempts. Men ware trying rape Chico because of his soft good looking features! Chico relocated to Chicago and has left the scene of Cali! I know that was a scary thing for Chico cuz he almost ended up in the big house in California; Cali's prisons' are said to be the most dangerous ones to do time in. However Chico served his previous time in prison for selling drugs in Michigan. I don't know if they could protect him errytime but let's just assume that they did! No protection was need for Bobby...hint hint!

Bunny went to jail too and I still can't believe that! Friends of the Debarges say them boys can FIGHT LIKE HELL! El's gonna need those skills cuz if the women want him so do the men...

Looks can be soooo Decieving cuz dem Debarges look INNOCENT!
...


Seriously, what is your point? I don't know what point you're trying to make. I honestly don't believe your source is credible, but even if something did happen to Chico, so what. What's the point of bringing it up?

A please don't come with that "hint, hint" crap about Bobby, come out and say what you want to say.


This is susposed to be a thread about the Debarges so I can post whatever I wanna state in these threads and if you don't agree with it so what...take a chill pill! It ain't like you getting paid by the hour to defend the Debarges!

Chico was made to dress in womens clothing and I don't believe the credibility of some of your stories either, but I ain't taking it personal. A lot of things go on in prison that shouldn't go on BUT THEY DO. My uncle heard a man getting raped sittin in his cell at night! I don't believe for one minute that El is in a celebrity prison that is ridiculous (That is only for the media to believe!). They do the crime they serve with the regular inmates. Why would their mom make up stories about them that is crazy, and why would she have to lie. Them Debarges are some troubled and tortured souls but you couldn't tell it in their music. That is why EL and some of the others are still on drugs because of their painful childhood and Chico talks about it openly! If the things that happened to them happened to me I'd be on drugs too!

El said himself that he is not the man he used to be back in the day singing on those OLD ASS videos...you all keep posting!

He is straight gangsta now, that is why he was hanging with DJ Quick and his crew back in the day he is straight hood now. This ain't malicious gossip it's the truth, it's a DEBARGE DISCUSSION THREAD GET OVER IT!
The message you are about to hear are not meant for transmission. Should ONLY be accessed in the privacy of your mind. Words are so intense so if you dare to listen.Take off your clothes and meet me between the lines. wildsign
Reply #86 posted 04/24/09 6:10pm

TD3

Chic35 said:

This is susposed to be a thread about the Debarges so I can post whatever I wanna state in these threads and if you don't agree with it so what...take a chill pill! It ain't like you getting paid by the hour to defend the Debarges!

Chico was made to dress in womens clothing and I don't believe the credibility of some of your stories either, but I ain't taking it personal. A lot of things go on in prison that shouldn't go on BUT THEY DO. My uncle heard a man getting raped sittin in his cell at night! I don't believe for one minute that El is in a celebrity prison that is ridiculous (That is only for the media to believe!). They do the crime they serve with the regular inmates. Why would their mom make up stories about them that is crazy, and why would she have to lie. Them Debarges are some troubled and tortured souls but you couldn't tell it in their music. That is why EL and some of the others are still on drugs because of their painful childhood and Chico talks about it openly! If the things that happened to them happened to me I'd be on drugs too!

El said himself that he is not the man he used to be back in the day singing on those OLD ASS videos...you all keep posting!

He is straight gangsta now, that is why he was hanging with DJ Quick and his crew back in the day he is straight hood now. This ain't malicious gossip it's the truth, it's a DEBARGE DISCUSSION THREAD GET OVER IT!


OK.
Reply #87 posted 04/24/09 6:13pm

scriptgirl

It is malicious gossip and hearsay and rumor are not fact. Interesting how the only thread you spread your little stories in is this one.Please go elsewhere. No one is interested.No one wants to hear what your uncle or cousin's baby mama best friend said.
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Reply #88 posted 04/24/09 6:13pm

TD3

I'm sorry this video isn't clearer. I don't know of any other video of El singing Marvin Gaye's classic, LIVE: "I Want You" (After the Dance)



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Reply #89 posted 04/24/09 6:15pm

scriptgirl

Your youtube vid isn't showing up
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Reply #90 posted 04/24/09 6:16pm

scriptgirl




Chico is at the far left corner of this poster


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Reply #91 posted 04/24/09 6:21pm

scriptgirl

Here is the first single off of "Love Me in a Special Way", "Time Will Reveal"

Performing it on Soul Train

Performing it on American Bandstand

Performing it live in Chicago 2 years ago

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Reply #92 posted 04/24/09 6:25pm

DesireeNevermind

eek dang chico got a big belly button. can't tell if its in or out.
Reply #93 posted 04/24/09 6:39pm

scriptgirl

I think it's an innie. Lawd, that boy didn't wanna leave from inside his mama for nothing!
"Lack of home training crosses all boundaries."
Reply #94 posted 04/24/09 6:51pm

DesireeNevermind

scriptgirl said:

I think it's an innie. Lawd, that boy didn't wanna leave from inside his mama for nothing!



spit
Reply #95 posted 04/24/09 6:59pm

Chic35

scriptgirl said:

Chic, you really seem to like to spread gossip and hearsay that you find on the net. Everything you read on the net is not true and should not be taken as gospel unless you have concrete sources.I am sure most of us in this thread can do without your reports. Also, Chico did time in prison in Indiana, not just Michigan. Please get your facts straight.

Secondly, El has stated through his mother that he is not in general population in jail out here in California, he is in the celebrity section.

And your use of "well,uh" to begin your sentence with does not lend credibility in the least bit to your response.

Also it is "were" not "ware". It is "everytime" not "errytime".

Also, Bobby is dead and cannot defend himself. Show some respect.

Your rumors and maliciousness are not wanted here.
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eek Did El Debarge dump you? lol
The message you are about to hear are not meant for transmission. Should ONLY be accessed in the privacy of your mind. Words are so intense so if you dare to listen.Take off your clothes and meet me between the lines. wildsign
Reply #96 posted 04/24/09 10:41pm

luv4u

Moderator

moderator

Chic35 said:

eek Did El Debarge dump you? lol


I notice that whatever you've been posting you have not posted any links to back up your posts. So I think we can all take what you say with a grain of salt. And another thing.... it's not nice to troll on a thread, mmmmKay?? biggrin
Edmonton, AB - canada

"hush nubbits" !
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Reply #97 posted 04/25/09 5:42am

RosesRred




On one of the Debarge's Myspace page it states that this is El's daughter.
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Reply #98 posted 04/25/09 6:19am

RosesRred

Chic35 said:



He is straight gangsta now, that is why he was hanging with DJ Quick and his crew back in the day he is straight hood now. This ain't malicious gossip it's the truth, it's a DEBARGE DISCUSSION THREAD GET OVER IT!



People can change and learn from their mistakes, BUT I do remember watching an
interview I think it was on BLACK ENTERTAINMENT TELEVISON (BET) years ago and
they had SNOOP DOGG AND HIS CREW it was about 10-12 people sitting around and
everyone was talking and I will NEVER FORGET when SNOOP (i'm not quoting)
but he was introducing everyone and when he went to the
person that all that time I thought it was this man

BIZZY BONE
!! I was sitting there watching and thinking Bizzy is hanging with
snoop now, but then when EL DEBARGE came out of his mouth I did this

----->>>>> eek eek eek <<<<-----I never looked at him the same
because like the old saying "Birds of a feather flock together"

"El is straight gangsta now" lol

Bizzy had it rough too but EL looked like Bizzy in this video with
his hair down..in the interview with Snoop



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Reply #99 posted 04/25/09 7:31am

BarackNRolla

Chic35 said:

scriptgirl said:

Tommy and his first wife, Yolanda or "Duckie"

Bobby and his wife, Terri

Janet and James

El and his second wife, Tracey


El's current and maybe ex wife, Monique



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Man El Debarge really meant the shit all this LOVE IS WAITING for you! His first wife's friend posted in a thread that when Tracey was pregnant with the second child, El was already living with another woman and the marriage was going sour, and drugs had a lot to do with it. Now Monique it was the similar scenario because they got into it about one of his sideline girlfriends causing a disturbance (according to his Mother) and it caused them to get into it, which caused him to be brought up on domestic violence charges back in 2007! El was arrested before for beating up a girlfriend on the side, in a hotel room as well, prior to him assaulting Monique, not to mention the girl he assaulted back in the mid 80's because she refused his sexual advances. The brotha CAN NOT TAKE REJECTION well. Now if he actually hit her that is a mystery to us but there was no evidence because charges was dropped. El's wives are realizing that they are not the only ones gettin the lovin... eek This is typical behavior for a handsome musician...

He means what he SINGS!!!!!

That El Debarge is a TRUE Womanizer!!!






Yall aint playing with this DeBarge Thread!!! But may I say something about the incident where El got arrested for domestic violence charges. Wasn't that the girlfriend he was accused for those charges? The reason why I said that was I remember him saying in a interview he did in Chico's 9s magazine that he and his girlfriend had been going at all day and at times it got heated. She left that evening and he went to sleep. But early that next morning he woke up from some banging on his door and it was the cops. I supply the link for you.Here's a little of what he said in that article. I don't believe Monique was the one he was accused of beating up on. Unless the girlfriend is Monique and I doubt that. Again here's the link!!!


El is just coming off of a run in with the law, where he was hit with a domestic
charge that was later thrown out in court, but brought to the forefront a handful of
other unresolved issues from years back. El, now a free man talked candidly about
his arrest and brief stint in the county jail. “It was eye opening,” El said wiping down
the center island in his kitchen and pausing to explain that they had a Barbeque
earlier. There were still trays and containers of food on the stove and on the counter
behind him. El continued to recount his recent struggles, explaining that the alleged
fight was just a blow up between his girlfriend and him that “got pretty heated at
times.” He admits that it seemed to go on and on and by the end of the evening,
she was gone and he was exhausted. He says that he went to bed and was
awakened by a persistent banging at the front door of his Palmdale, CA home. It
was the police following up on a call that they had received alleging assault on his
girlfriend. El says that he remembers thinking “Oh this is great,” as he was arrested
and booked. But that was only the beginning of his legal woes. Once in the system,
the state found several prior offenses, and failure to appear charges that El had yet
to address in court. El laughs, I knew that I was going to have some time to cool my
heals.


http://www.the9smag.com/sept07.pdf
Reply #100 posted 04/25/09 8:02am

scriptgirl

Yes, the girl pictured with El is his oldest child, Adris, who was born when El was 15. She is the assistant of Tracey Edmonds', Babyface's ex-wife.

Pics of Chico taken last month.





"Lack of home training crosses all boundaries."
Reply #101 posted 04/25/09 8:05am

scriptgirl

I read that. Who knows if El is telling the truth. He has been known to talk out of both sides of his mouth and to gloss things over.
"Lack of home training crosses all boundaries."
Reply #102 posted 04/25/09 8:42am

TD3

BarackNRolla said:

Yall aint playing with this DeBarge Thread!!! But may I say something about the incident where El got arrested for domestic violence charges.


Yes, you may and thank you BarackNRolla for printing this and giving us a link. What happened between El and his friend, who knows? Since he has a previous record of putting his hands on women, it's possible. BUT, PD didn't charge El because of they lack of evidence. However, it's not uncommon for women (who know their guy has outstanding warrants) to call the police after they've had a row also.
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Reply #103 posted 04/25/09 8:11pm

DesireeNevermind

I could never picture El beating a chick's ass. Seems like they would be play fighting or something. And might I say that Chico's lip gloss is poppin'! Damn that boy got a pout. Kissable pout, but a pout nonetheless.
Reply #104 posted 04/25/09 8:16pm

scriptgirl

In 86, El did assault a woman. It's a fact and documented in court records.

Chico is not wearing lip gloss that I can see.
"Lack of home training crosses all boundaries."
Reply #105 posted 04/25/09 8:18pm

DesireeNevermind

his lips look kinda glisteny. maybe its chapstick?
Reply #106 posted 04/25/09 8:29pm

scriptgirl

It is his own natural lip color and also most likely, has to do something with the camera angle and lighting.
"Lack of home training crosses all boundaries."
Reply #107 posted 04/26/09 11:12pm

TD3

I've been thinking about this for awhile...El/DeBarge should consider doing an acoustic album of some of their songs and not neccasrily the songs released as singles. Unfournately, the live version of "SomeBody Loves You" is no longer on U-Tube but it hit home to me how amazing their harmonizing was. I still would love to know who was singing the bass chorus of "Somebody Loves You", it was so tight! Just thinking out loud, I think there may be a market for an acoustic retrospective of their music.
Reply #108 posted 04/26/09 11:25pm

scriptgirl

Actually, here is the live version of "Somebody Loves You", as performed by El on the Arsenio Hall show in '89. Notice Tommy Debarge on bass and Randy and Bunny on backing vocals.
http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=29314643
"Lack of home training crosses all boundaries."
Reply #109 posted 04/27/09 12:03am

TD3

scriptgirl said:

Actually, here is the live version of "Somebody Loves You", as performed by El on the Arsenio Hall show in '89. Notice Tommy Debarge on bass and Randy and Bunny on backing vocals.
http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=29314643


nod

Yes, I did! Yea, this is what I wanted to see, Bunny, Randy, and the young women who played the sax, singing the chorus. From what I can tell, no one else was mic'ed up. So, it must have been Randy singing the bass chorus "Somebody Loves You" starting a 2:57. WOW. Thanks again. cool
Reply #110 posted 04/27/09 12:07am

scriptgirl

As always, my pleasure
"Lack of home training crosses all boundaries."
Reply #111 posted 04/28/09 3:53pm

TD3

This was in my U-Tube subscription box:The intro makes you heart a little heavy seeing how many of the great entertainer's/singer's have since passed, but anywho... here's EL opening up the the Motown/Apollo Night Special.

Here is the LINK: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qqqxx4mXD7U



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Reply #112 posted 04/28/09 4:47pm

scriptgirl

I detest that rhythm song
"Lack of home training crosses all boundaries."
Reply #113 posted 04/28/09 5:13pm

TD3

scriptgirl said:

I detest that rhythm song


lol

I think a lot of fans of El/DeBarge feel the same way you do scriptgirl.
"Rhythm Of The Night" isn't my favorite song from the group but over the years it's grown on me... a lil bit. I remember this special though, I don't remember El being the opening act. It goes to show you Motown had bigger plans for him to have him open the show.
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Reply #114 posted 04/28/09 5:30pm

scriptgirl

My oldest cousin Reena, who got me into Debarge told me more than once that as soon as she heard "rhythm", she knew it was the beginning of the end for the group.
"Lack of home training crosses all boundaries."
Reply #115 posted 04/28/09 6:11pm

TD3

scriptgirl said:

My oldest cousin Reena, who got me into Debarge told me more than once that as soon as she heard "rhythm", she knew it was the beginning of the end for the group.


Well you know Barry Gordy... Mr. Pop music. neutral As always, Mr. Gordy felt the need to put his imprint on a talented group of musicians who should've been left the hell alone to do their on thing. Many a Black artist music career has gone south because some record executive has the bright idea they needed to "crossover".

El did an interview on BET where he said,he felt restricted in his ability write/record the music he wanted at Motown.
Reply #116 posted 04/28/09 6:26pm

scriptgirl

I saw that interview. The thing is, Debarge to me, had a very limited cross over appeal. Ironic, considering that Motown thought they would be perfect for that pop market just cause of their light skin
"Lack of home training crosses all boundaries."
Reply #117 posted 04/28/09 6:54pm

TD3

scriptgirl said:

I saw that interview. The thing is, Debarge to me, had a very limited cross over appeal. Ironic, considering that Motown thought they would be perfect for that pop market just cause of their light skin


nod I don't either, the DeBarges were and are a straight up R&B/soul musicians. The long history of Motown being color struck..... I was kinda surprise a Motown executive all but admitted on Unsung, in the past they've denied such.
Reply #118 posted 04/28/09 7:06pm

scriptgirl

What do you mean the long history of Motwon being color struck?
"Lack of home training crosses all boundaries."
Reply #119 posted 04/28/09 7:07pm

scriptgirl

You need to post the direct link to your vid cause you can't watch it via youtube
"Lack of home training crosses all boundaries."
Reply #120 posted 04/28/09 7:08pm

scriptgirl

Chico, El andd James and their fans over the years


















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Reply #121 posted 04/28/09 7:19pm

scriptgirl

James singing lead on two tracks on "In a Special Way"


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Reply #122 posted 04/28/09 10:26pm

Chic35

scriptgirl said:

Chico, El andd James and their fans over the years


















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Those Debarge brothers were irresistable I must admit "Mama Debarge said the girls used to climb through their windows trying to get them boys when they were in their teens"! You can't really blame them...but they come with a lotta bagagge too. Even Janet and LaToya had Debarge fever back in the day. Vanity got caught up and so did Chante Moore and most of the unsuspecting female victims. It was a shock when I found out El discovered Chante Moore!
The message you are about to hear are not meant for transmission. Should ONLY be accessed in the privacy of your mind. Words are so intense so if you dare to listen.Take off your clothes and meet me between the lines. wildsign
Reply #123 posted 04/28/09 11:14pm

TD3

Chic35 said:

Those Debarge brothers were irresistable I must admit "Mama Debarge said the girls used to climb through their windows trying to get them boys when they were in their teens"! You can't really blame them...but they come with a lotta bagagge too. Even Janet and LaToya had Debarge fever back in the day. Vanity got caught up and so did Chante Moore and most of the unsuspecting female victims. It was a shock when I found out El discovered Chante Moore!


Wow. I didn't know either. neutral
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Reply #124 posted 04/29/09 4:29am

daingermouz2020

scriptgirl said:

My oldest cousin Reena, who got me into Debarge told me more than once that as soon as she heard "rhythm", she knew it was the beginning of the end for the group.



I have to agree with your cousin. The moment I bought that album and sat back to listen to it I also felt like this is the end. With the exception of 'You Were It Well" and "Share My World" I found the album hard to bare.
Same goes for El's solo album except I hated it all. Jay Graydon & David Foster I'm sure are good producers but not for Debarge.

El's Gemini album would have served better as a fifth album by Debarge.
Reply #125 posted 04/29/09 8:27am

scriptgirl

Yeah, the last Debarge album was awful. I wonder if Debarge would have been better served by being on another label, like Atlantic or Warner Brothers.
"Lack of home training crosses all boundaries."
Reply #126 posted 04/29/09 9:40am

daingermouz2020

I think they would have been better off anywhere else.
Reply #127 posted 04/29/09 9:46am

daingermouz2020

Also I ws not to crazy about Bunny's album at all or the Debarge BAD BOYS album.
I mean what were they thinking?
Reply #128 posted 04/29/09 9:46am

scriptgirl

I am thinking Elektra may have been best for them. I don't know that Warner Brothers would have nurtured them.
"Lack of home training crosses all boundaries."
Reply #129 posted 04/29/09 9:47am

DesireeNevermind

you gotta respect an artist whose not afraid to get friendly with the fans. the pics are great and look almost familial.
Reply #130 posted 04/29/09 9:53am

scriptgirl

Bunny's voice is an acquired taste, better suited for gospel, although, she could do Minnie Riperton type stuff. I think that Bunny missed her time period-if she had come out in the 70s, her voice would have fit right in.

Debarge without El and Bunny was a moot point. Bobby was not a good fit at all for the group
"Lack of home training crosses all boundaries."
Reply #131 posted 04/29/09 9:55am

scriptgirl

Debarge has pretty much always had a great rep for being cool with their fans. From all I have read, they are truly grateful for the love they get from us and don't take it for granted. James, Randy and Bunny have said that after years of being rejected for their biracial heritage, to finally be accepted and loved by fans meant the world to them.
"Lack of home training crosses all boundaries."
Reply #132 posted 04/29/09 10:44am

daingermouz2020

scriptgirl said:

Bunny's voice is an acquired taste, better suited for gospel, although, she could do Minnie Riperton type stuff. I think that Bunny missed her time period-if she had come out in the 70s, her voice would have fit right in.

Debarge without El and Bunny was a moot point. Bobby was not a good fit at all for the group


It was not Bunny's voice I hated. I hated the choice of material,writers producers of the album itself. As for Bobby he missed his time. He should have gone solo prior to Introducing Debarge,and when his voice was at it's best. Once El matured he proved to be the better all around singer/writer,producer of the two.
Reply #133 posted 04/29/09 11:37am

scriptgirl

Bobby did miss his time. He should have put out shit right after Switch went downhill. People rave about Bobby's talent for days, but I just don't see it.
"Lack of home training crosses all boundaries."
Reply #134 posted 04/29/09 2:06pm

RosesRred

Cool pics, scriptgirl.

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Reply #135 posted 04/29/09 3:06pm

scriptgirl

Thank you, I try my best
"Lack of home training crosses all boundaries."
Reply #136 posted 04/30/09 2:48pm

TD3

I agree, script you have a mighty fine collection of all things DeBarge. Just when I thought maybe you've reached your limit you pull out another batch of amazing matarial. Thanks. clapping

I ran up on a site last year in which (I didn't bookmark it) it charted the success singer/musicians who left their respective successful groups to go solo. I was surprised to learn more often than not, those solo careers were at best mediocre in terms of music chart /record success. In most instances the music may have been good... excellent even but it didn't transfer to solo success. I said all that to say this.

I thought it was a mistake for all DeBares to leave their respective groups, all of them left too soon. I thought Bobby miscalculated his popularity within Switch as being strong enough to parlay another career with his family. I thought El's talents shined when he collaborated with his siblings, mighty fine musicians in their own right.

I very muched like El's solo albums and it's a shame his respective record companines didn't feel the need promote him nor his music. confused I agree with you daingermouz2020, Gemini should've have been a DeBarge's album.
Reply #137 posted 04/30/09 3:12pm

scriptgirl

I asked my parents and others around that earaabout Switch and how popular they were. My parents are East Coast and my dad says they were popular, my mom says middling. My hairdresser is from LA and she says out here, Switch was banging.

I do think Bobby thought he was more popular than he was, but according to Jermaine Jackson on Unsung, a lot of people were whispering in his ear, turning his head.

El, drugs or no drugs, could have been huge. It was a matter of the material.
"Lack of home training crosses all boundaries."
Reply #138 posted 05/01/09 2:49pm

scriptgirl

This article is from Billboard from last month. Chico talks about his new project.
CHICO DeBARGE TO EDUCATE EX-CONS

As the new managing partner for the Chicago-based nonprofit organization P.R.O. (People Reclaiming Ourselves), R&B singer Chico DeBarge hopes to provide former convicts with the resources they need to re-enter society. He says he understands their struggle. "I was locked up for six years [on drug charges], and coming out was very hard," he says. "This program helps you cut through that red tape and help get over those hurdles."

P.R.O. will open its doors April 15, with plans to expand to other cities. "We're going to halfway houses and also to prisons and different correctional facilities around the area of Chicago," DeBarge says, noting that the organization will help reduce repeat offenders by educating ex-cons about jobs, housing, substance abuse and mental health issues. "We'll drop off information and fliers and also speak at these particular places and let them know this type of program is available for them."

In 1988 DeBarge was sentenced to six years for conspiracy to distribute narcotics. He says the time was a difficult period and "having [P.R.O.] was something I always wished I had. " He learned about P. R.O. after a day in the studio while talking with its founders, Jamie Miller and Darryl Lamb. A new album, "Addiction" (Kedar Entertainment), will be released June 30. - Mitchell PetersGOOD WORKS
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Reply #139 posted 05/01/09 4:40pm

TD3

OK... we don't have any Switch up in this thread. So, I'm going to do the honors. biggrin This is my favorite Switch song "Friend In The Sky" written by Bobby & Bunny DeBarge. Lead Vocals: Bobby DeBarge and Phillip Ingram. The string quartet arrangements in this song are..."SICK".

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_P1_r086AMg&feature=related

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Reply #140 posted 05/01/09 4:41pm

scriptgirl

The end of the song is what I imagine Heven sounds like.
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Reply #141 posted 05/02/09 6:27am

Ottensen

TD3 said:

OK... we don't have any Switch up in this thread. So, I'm going to do the honors. biggrin This is my favorite Switch song "Friend In The Sky" written by Bobby & Bunny Debarge. Lead Vocals: Bobby DeBarge and Phillip Ingram. The string quartet arrangements in this song are..."SICK".

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_P1_r086AMg&feature=related

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I thought I lost interest in this thread long ago, but this is really cool,actually. I am sitting my black ass on my little terrace catching some rays and loving all of this old skool falsetto! This music really takes me back to my childhood!

Keep it up, Script wink
Reply #142 posted 05/02/09 7:28am

scriptgirl

Ott, glad to have you back!! Just stick around and I will have some goodies for you!
"Lack of home training crosses all boundaries."
Reply #143 posted 05/02/09 5:28pm

Chic35

BarackNRolla said:

Chic35 said:


Man El Debarge really meant the shit all this LOVE IS WAITING for you! His first wife's friend posted in a thread that when Tracey was pregnant with the second child, El was already living with another woman and the marriage was going sour, and drugs had a lot to do with it. Now Monique it was the similar scenario because they got into it about one of his sideline girlfriends causing a disturbance (according to his Mother) and it caused them to get into it, which caused him to be brought up on domestic violence charges back in 2007! El was arrested before for beating up a girlfriend on the side, in a hotel room as well, prior to him assaulting Monique, not to mention the girl he assaulted back in the mid 80's because she refused his sexual advances. The brotha CAN NOT TAKE REJECTION well. Now if he actually hit her that is a mystery to us but there was no evidence because charges was dropped. El's wives are realizing that they are not the only ones gettin the lovin... eek This is typical behavior for a handsome musician...

He means what he SINGS!!!!!

That El Debarge is a TRUE Womanizer!!!






Yall aint playing with this DeBarge Thread!!! But may I say something about the incident where El got arrested for domestic violence charges. Wasn't that the girlfriend he was accused for those charges? The reason why I said that was I remember him saying in a interview he did in Chico's 9s magazine that he and his girlfriend had been going at all day and at times it got heated. She left that evening and he went to sleep. But early that next morning he woke up from some banging on his door and it was the cops. I supply the link for you.Here's a little of what he said in that article. I don't believe Monique was the one he was accused of beating up on. Unless the girlfriend is Monique and I doubt that. Again here's the link!!!


El is just coming off of a run in with the law, where he was hit with a domestic
charge that was later thrown out in court, but brought to the forefront a handful of
other unresolved issues from years back. El, now a free man talked candidly about
his arrest and brief stint in the county jail. “It was eye opening,” El said wiping down
the center island in his kitchen and pausing to explain that they had a Barbeque
earlier. There were still trays and containers of food on the stove and on the counter
behind him. El continued to recount his recent struggles, explaining that the alleged
fight was just a blow up between his girlfriend and him that “got pretty heated at
times.” He admits that it seemed to go on and on and by the end of the evening,
she was gone and he was exhausted. He says that he went to bed and was
awakened by a persistent banging at the front door of his Palmdale, CA home. It
was the police following up on a call that they had received alleging assault on his
girlfriend. El says that he remembers thinking “Oh this is great,” as he was arrested
and booked. But that was only the beginning of his legal woes. Once in the system,
the state found several prior offenses, and failure to appear charges that El had yet
to address in court. El laughs, I knew that I was going to have some time to cool my
heals.


http://www.the9smag.com/sept07.pdf

Thank you!!!!! Thank you for clearing that up! Aint nobody playing with this freakin thread.....Nobody is doing malicious gossip! El is so down to earth it is pitiful.....My niece met El in her apt building when she moved from Boston and he was cool as a fan. I am a BIG Debarge FAN! I am just a straight shooter I don't sugar coat nothing! El is straight hood and it's all good with me! Now I just found out Monique and his divorce is final, and she knows about the molestation and incest that goes on in that Debarge family. When their divorce was final she stated that she NO LONGER will lets the kids around El's family! I can't blame Monique PROTECT YOUR BABIES!!! El love's women that is just him, and he had another women when he was with Tracey the first wife. When things go sour El don't see the point in hanging around...Uhhh NEXT! This suspposed to be a thread to discuss the Debarges well hell let's do just that. I ordered the Kept Ones book...can't wait for it to arrive!!!

That book will heal a lotta hurting people that are going through the same thing!
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Reply #144 posted 05/02/09 5:46pm

Chic35

Ottensen said:

TD3 said:

OK... we don't have any Switch up in this thread. So, I'm going to do the honors. biggrin This is my favorite Switch song "Friend In The Sky" written by Bobby & Bunny Debarge. Lead Vocals: Bobby DeBarge and Phillip Ingram. The string quartet arrangements in this song are..."SICK".

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_P1_r086AMg&feature=related

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I thought I lost interest in this thread long ago, but this is really cool,actually. I am sitting my black ass on my little terrace catching some rays and loving all of this old skool falsetto! This music really takes me back to my childhood!

Keep it up, Script wink

I love that song and I like Switch's rendition better! That song has recently been sampled by Raheem Devaughn on the LOVE EXPERIENCE CD! Check out This is my Dream by Switch on youtube....that one is one of my favorites as well! Bobby had a beautiful voice! biggrin
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Reply #145 posted 05/03/09 5:32pm

scriptgirl

Kristinia Debarge at Kiss FM in LA
"Lack of home training crosses all boundaries."
Reply #146 posted 05/03/09 11:03pm

tonyat

So whatever became of Tommy DeBarge?
Reply #147 posted 05/04/09 4:47am

daingermouz2020

scriptgirl said:

I asked my parents and others around that earaabout Switch and how popular they were. My parents are East Coast and my dad says they were popular, my mom says middling. My hairdresser is from LA and she says out here, Switch was banging.

I do think Bobby thought he was more popular than he was, but according to Jermaine Jackson on Unsung, a lot of people were whispering in his ear, turning his head.

El, drugs or no drugs, could have been huge. It was a matter of the material.


I remember reading years ago in a issue of "Right On" that Bobby's voice will no longer be the focal point on Switch albums. This is prior to me finding out that he had gone solo. I think this was around the time they released Switch V.There was a supposed recorded album for which I read was shelved (would love to hear it) Later it was announced he was to sign or was signed with Larry Blackmons Atlanta Artist label. But of course nothing ever materialized.

I personally believe Bobby started to smell himself as my mom would say. His mistake was bringing El into the public. Why would motown need to guys that sound alike with the same sir name? El clearly is the better singer out of the two. Bobby's does alot more hollaring where El is a more of just a straight singer with the ability to do those what I call vocal acrobatics but doesn't have to.

I am told Bobby said in a interview "I have a younger brother who can do what I can do vocally and things that I just can't do.
Reply #148 posted 05/04/09 4:51am

daingermouz2020

I also find it strange as close as they appear to be.Why El and Bobby never worked together
Reply #149 posted 05/04/09 8:04am

scriptgirl

Dainger, thanks for the info!
"Lack of home training crosses all boundaries."
Reply #150 posted 05/04/09 8:06am

scriptgirl

Pics of Debarge from the tv shows they have been on.

El on "Facts of Life"

shows they have been on.
Debarge, minus El and Bunny,but with Chico, on "Punky Brewster"







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Reply #151 posted 05/04/09 8:15am

scriptgirl

Here is EL on a show called "Sidekicks" in 87



El on Miami Vice

El on Facts of Life



DEbarge on "Punky Brewster'


Chico on Moesha

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Reply #152 posted 05/04/09 8:29am

scriptgirl

So much to address-
Firstly, in 86, Tommmy did time for coke charges and then I think he did time in 90 for trying to sell fake coke to a cop. He lives in LA now.He and his wife have also written a book about his life called "There'll Never Be". Not sure when that will be out.

Bobby, out of all the Debarges, took the abuse that he recieved the worst-he also suffered the most abuse from his father. His drug habit imperiled any hopes he had for a successful career. Also, as Jermaine Jackson said, people started whispering in his ear about how he didn't need the other members of Switch, that he could go solo. Wrong. Also, Switch was never really going to make it into the 80s. I think they were really a 2nd tier group-on par with Slave and they just didn't have that extra something to maintain an 80s career.

I don't think Bobby hollers, he just tends to hit high notes-I don't think his lower register is that great. Then again, drugs took a huge toll on his voice-contrast that to El, who despite his own prodigious drug use, can still SANG.

It has been surmised that El and Bobby had a falling out either over Bobby's prison time or his drug habit. There could also have been jealousy over El's success. Either way, as far as I know, El was the only sibling not to have been a part of Bobby's last recording.

There supposedly was material Bobby recorded for a solo LP on Motown. That material has long been assumed to have been lost.

No matter what I or anyone thinks of Bobby's talent, his siblings thought he was the most talented of them all and Berry Gordy called Bobby the most talented artist "he had ever signed."
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Reply #153 posted 05/04/09 8:44am

tonyat

scriptgirl said:

So much to address-
Firstly, in 86, Tommmy did time for coke charges and then I think he did time in 90 for trying to sell fake coke to a cop. He lives in LA now.He and his wife have also written a book about his life called "There'll Never Be". Not sure when that will be out.

Bobby, out of all the Debarges, took the abuse that he recieved the worst-he also suffered the most abuse from his father. His drug habit imperiled any hopes he had for a successful career. Also, as Jermaine Jackson said, people started whispering in his ear about how he didn't need the other members of Switch, that he could go solo. Wrong. Also, Switch was never really going to make it into the 80s. I think they were really a 2nd tier group-on par with Slave and they just didn't have that extra something to maintain an 80s career.

I don't think Bobby hollers, he just tends to hit high notes-I don't think his lower register is that great. Then again, drugs took a huge toll on his voice-contrast that to El, who despite his own prodigious drug use, can still SANG.

It has been surmised that El and Bobby had a falling out either over Bobby's prison time or his drug habit. There could also have been jealousy over El's success. Either way, as far as I know, El was the only sibling not to have been a part of Bobby's last recording.

There supposedly was material Bobby recorded for a solo LP on Motown. That material has long been assumed to have been lost.

No matter what I or anyone thinks of Bobby's talent, his siblings thought he was the most talented of them all and Berry Gordy called Bobby the most talented artist "he had ever signed."
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Thanks scriptgirl!!!!![color=red][/color]
Reply #154 posted 05/04/09 8:50am

tonyat

daingermouz2020 said:

scriptgirl said:

I asked my parents and others around that earaabout Switch and how popular they were. My parents are East Coast and my dad says they were popular, my mom says middling. My hairdresser is from LA and she says out here, Switch was banging.

I do think Bobby thought he was more popular than he was, but according to Jermaine Jackson on Unsung, a lot of people were whispering in his ear, turning his head.

El, drugs or no drugs, could have been huge. It was a matter of the material.


I remember reading years ago in a issue of "Right On" that Bobby's voice will no longer be the focal point on Switch albums. This is prior to me finding out that he had gone solo. I think this was around the time they released Switch V.There was a supposed recorded album for which I read was shelved (would love to hear it) Later it was announced he was to sign or was signed with Larry Blackmons Atlanta Artist label. But of course nothing ever materialized.

I personally believe Bobby started to smell himself as my mom would say. His mistake was bringing El into the public. Why would motown need to guys that sound alike with the same sir name? El clearly is the better singer [b]out of the two.[/b] Bobby's does alot more hollaring where El is a more of just a straight singer with the ability to do those what I call vocal acrobatics but doesn't have to.

I am told Bobby said in a interview "I have a younger brother who can do what I can do vocally and things that I just can't do.



Surely you jest?[color=darkred][/color]


He couldn't have been feeling himself to much if he said some mess like that![color=blue][/color]
Reply #155 posted 05/04/09 8:56am

scriptgirl

Chico Concert Dates

Road to Essence Music Fesitval feat. Joe with Guest Chico DeBarge
Jun. 25 - House of Blues – Chicago

Road To Essence Music Festival featuring Joe & Guest Chico DeBarge
Jul. 01 - House of Blues - Houston

Chico DeBarge
Jun. 24 - House of Blues - Cleveland

Road To Essence Musical Festival feat. Joe with guest Chico Debarge
Jun. 20 - House Of Blues - Myrtle Beach

NEW YORK--- B.B. KING BLUES CLUB & GRILL
JOE + Sp. Guest CHICO DeBARGE
Mon. June 15th 2009 - 8PM
WWW.BBKINGBLUES. COM
B.B. King Blues Club & Grill 237 West 42nd Street NY, NY 10036
B.B. KING BOX OFFICE AND INFORMATION: 212-997-4144
TICKETMASTER: (212) 307-7171
"Lack of home training crosses all boundaries."
Reply #156 posted 05/04/09 8:20pm

daingermouz2020

tonyat said:

daingermouz2020 said:



I remember reading years ago in a issue of "Right On" that Bobby's voice will no longer be the focal point on Switch albums. This is prior to me finding out that he had gone solo. I think this was around the time they released Switch V.There was a supposed recorded album for which I read was shelved (would love to hear it) Later it was announced he was to sign or was signed with Larry Blackmons Atlanta Artist label. But of course nothing ever materialized.

I personally believe Bobby started to smell himself as my mom would say. His mistake was bringing El into the public. Why would motown need to guys that sound alike with the same sir name? El clearly is the better singer [b]out of the two.[/b] Bobby's does alot more hollaring where El is a more of just a straight singer with the ability to do those what I call vocal acrobatics but doesn't have to.

I am told Bobby said in a interview "I have a younger brother who can do what I can do vocally and things that I just can't do.



Surely you jest?[color=darkred][/color]


He couldn't have been feeling himself to much if he said some mess like that![color=blue][/color]


You make a good point but most of the times when we feel we are at the top of our game we they don't mind paying a complement or two to someone else. But when that person proves to be compitition/rival it's usually a diff story hen.
Reply #157 posted 05/05/09 10:23am

scriptgirl

I think what Bobby said speaks to how highly Bobby thought of El's vocal talents
"Lack of home training crosses all boundaries."
Reply #158 posted 05/05/09 2:38pm

DesireeNevermind

I LOVE THIS THREAD/STICKY/WUTEVA yay! woot! dancing jig
Reply #159 posted 05/05/09 2:50pm

scriptgirl

I am so glad! I try to get the best pics I can and have the latest and most up to date info on Debarge.
"Lack of home training crosses all boundaries."
Reply #160 posted 05/05/09 6:29pm

Riverpoet31

Prince.org

The only site in the world where such an un-important, far mediocre and far forgotten R&B group gets their own sticky....
Reply #161 posted 05/05/09 6:37pm

TD3

I don't think El's lack of particpation on Bobby's last album is all that sinster. It may have been El had responsibilities to his own career. El's "Heart, Mind & Soul was released in 94 and Bobby's album in Aug of 95. Things probably just overlapped..... Bobby did mentioned all his siblings by name and thank them for their support during the making of his last Cd, "It's Not Over".
Reply #162 posted 05/05/09 6:38pm

scriptgirl

As you can see by the response on this thread, Debarge is far from forgotten. If they were so mediocre, rappers would not have sampled their tunes. The fact of the matter is, Debarge has had a huge impact on hip hop and rnb. Despite their personal failings, the members of Debarge are prodigiously talented musicians. If you don't care for them, I fail to see why you would come on a thread devoted to them.
"Lack of home training crosses all boundaries."
Reply #163 posted 05/05/09 6:40pm

TD3

Riverpoet31 said:

Prince.org

The only site in the world where such an un-important, far mediocre and far forgotten R&B group gets their own sticky....


Reply #164 posted 05/05/09 10:55pm

Fridayfoster

Hello.I'm new to this site.I've an Debarge fan since they hit the air waves back in '82 or '83.
I have a question.The picture that you posted of Tommy Debarge and his wife Duckie.Wasn't she the one that was murdered by an serial killer back in the day?Like late '80's or early '90's?
Please keep this thread going.I really enjoy the info on this talanted family.Also I wish I would have kept my Right ON! magazines from back in the day.All those Prince,Michael Jackson,New Edtion and Debarge Posters on my wall and ceiling!!!!! So keep it coming
Reply #165 posted 05/05/09 11:05pm

scriptgirl

Well here's the thing: Etterlene Debarge, Tommy's mother, says that Duckie was murdered by a serial killer, while Chico said Duckie died due to crack.
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Reply #166 posted 05/05/09 11:17pm

TD3

scriptgirl said:

Well here's the thing: Etterlene Debarge, Tommy's mother, says that Duckie was murdered by a serial killer, while Chico said Duckie died due to crack.


It's curious two people can see an event at such opposite ends of the spectrum. confused
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Reply #167 posted 05/05/09 11:25pm

scriptgirl

I'm sure Bunny would agree.
"Lack of home training crosses all boundaries."
Reply #168 posted 05/06/09 4:07pm

Fridayfoster

scriptgirl said:

Well here's the thing: Etterlene Debarge, Tommy's mother, says that Duckie was murdered by a serial killer, while Chico said Duckie died due to crack.
[Edited 5/5/09 23:06pm]

Yes.Thats where I got the info from Mamma Debarge site.Then Chico did an interview with Sister2sister magazine when he first got out of prison and dropped his classic album "Long Time No See",which I still bump today,he said that while in prison a couple of people in his family had died.Like his brother Bobby and his sister-in-law Duckie.He said him and Duckie was really close before he went to prison.He didn't say how she died.He just said that they were real close.
Reply #169 posted 05/06/09 4:18pm

scriptgirl

In that same article, which I have, Chico does indeed say Duckie died from crack. According to Tommy's now wife,April, Duckie and Tommy were not married at the time of Duckie's death. Etterlene's account of things and those of her children tend to be different.

Also, Bobby died after Chico was out. He even says that in the NPR interview he and Bunny did in November.
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Reply #170 posted 05/06/09 9:33pm

TD3

Script, I don't think I've ever asked you what are your favorite albums of El's (solo career) and Chico's?
Reply #171 posted 05/06/09 10:19pm

scriptgirl

Hmm-good question. I grew up hearing about Debarge because of my older cousin Reena, who was a huge fan, but Chico was the first time I really paid attention to the family, cause I was in high school when he came out. I don't have a fave solo album of his because I have never listened to any of his cds all the way through.

I don't have a fave El album, simply because I like his stuff with Debarge the most. I have heard "Into the Storm" is great and "Another Chance" is my jam. But like I said, for now, I prefer El's work with his fam.
"Lack of home training crosses all boundaries."
Reply #172 posted 05/07/09 4:53am

daingermouz2020

scriptgirl said:

Well here's the thing: Etterlene Debarge, Tommy's mother, says that Duckie was murdered by a serial killer, while Chico said Duckie died due to crack.
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If she died due to a serial killer whom is Rumored to be the notorious Alton Coleman. Etterlene Debarge seems to be the ONLY ONE with this knowledge because none of his victims names was Yolonda.

Can anyone confirm the name of this serial killer? What year did this take place? Why does Mama D's recollections always differ so much from those of her kids.
Reply #173 posted 05/07/09 8:08am

scriptgirl

I think Etterlene has trouble facing facts. For instance in her book, she says Chico never married, when in fact he did. I also am pretty sure that in her book, she never mentions how Bunny was sexually abused by the Debarge dad. And a lot of things that Bunny writes about in her book Etterlene does not mention at all. In fact, Bunny and her mother had a falling out over Bunny's book.

I have no idea when Yolonda died. Tommy's book may shed more accurate light on the subject. I don't think she names Alton Brown was the serial killer that Etterlene means-I think the serial killer's surname was Italian.
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"Lack of home training crosses all boundaries."
Reply #174 posted 05/07/09 11:28am

Chic35

Riverpoet31 said:

Prince.org

The only site in the world where such an un-important, far mediocre and far forgotten R&B group gets their own sticky....

The Unsung Debarge got people shocked about their life story! They had a clean pure image and then they kinda fell off the map and disappeared.You could NEVER really forget the Debarges cause of people sampling their music so much. El and Mama Debarge are saying El will be released from prison this june of 2009 for good behavior with concert gigs lined up and everythang! It may be a lie but El and his mother whitewash things to make it confuse the public;or maybe to keep us guessing. The apple really does not fall far from tree. That is neither here nor there...

As far as Kristinia Debarge giving out her cell that is the WRONG thing to do! Babyface probably wasn't pleased with that. Somebody betta get the girl a publicist to give her rundown of celebrity life. She gonna have stalkers and all the sick deranged fans stalking her to no end!

Bunny is saying that the family curse has cycled down to their children and she hopes they can break the cycle before it gets to their grand babies! Their children are already doing drugs...Damn say it ain't so! It is true children live by example sometimes!
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Reply #175 posted 05/07/09 12:13pm

Timmy84

Chic35 said:

Riverpoet31 said:

Prince.org

The only site in the world where such an un-important, far mediocre and far forgotten R&B group gets their own sticky....

The Unsung Debarge got people shocked about their life story! They had a clean pure image and then they kinda fell off the map and disappeared.You could NEVER really forget the Debarges cause of people sampling their music so much. El and Mama Debarge are saying El will be released from prison this june of 2009 for good behavior with concert gigs lined up and everythang! It may be a lie but El and his mother whitewash things to make it confuse the public;or maybe to keep us guessing. The apple really does not fall far from tree. That is neither here nor there...

As far as Kristinia Debarge giving out her cell that is the WRONG thing to do! Babyface probably wasn't pleased with that. Somebody betta get the girl a publicist to give her rundown of celebrity life. She gonna have stalkers and all the sick deranged fans stalking her to no end!

Bunny is saying that the family curse has cycled down to their children and she hopes they can break the cycle before it gets to their grand babies! Their children are already doing drugs...Damn say it ain't so! It is true children live by example sometimes!


What the "Unsung" documentary revealed was not even as bad as the stories printed in books and magazines. They can't even save themselves. disbelief And eek @ Kristinia giving out her cell. The hell? confused
Reply #176 posted 05/07/09 12:58pm

scriptgirl

I think the family is getting their shit together. Tommy is doing well, as are James, Chico, Bunny, and the twins. And I don't think the Debarge twins had substance issues-then again, I don't think they were bedviled by the demons and saw the abuse that affected their much older siblings.
"Lack of home training crosses all boundaries."
Reply #177 posted 05/07/09 2:10pm

scriptgirl

"Lack of home training crosses all boundaries."
Reply #178 posted 05/07/09 2:12pm

scriptgirl

Etterlene sings this track

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Reply #179 posted 05/07/09 2:14pm

scriptgirl

Fan tribute to Etterlne for her Bday
"Lack of home training crosses all boundaries."
Reply #180 posted 05/07/09 2:15pm

scriptgirl

Debarge Singles and Album Covers

























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Reply #181 posted 05/07/09 2:50pm

scriptgirl

El sings on this track
"Lack of home training crosses all boundaries."
Reply #182 posted 05/07/09 2:59pm

TD3

^^^^^
music I love that song. Randy bass line, tight!
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Reply #183 posted 05/07/09 3:04pm

scriptgirl

I didn't know Tommy played on this cd.
"Lack of home training crosses all boundaries."
Reply #184 posted 05/07/09 3:18pm

TD3

scriptgirl said:

I didn't know Tommy played on this cd.


Tommy, Randy or Randy, Tommy... I get confuse

smile
Reply #185 posted 05/08/09 9:20am

Timmy84

TD3 said:

scriptgirl said:

I didn't know Tommy played on this cd.


Tommy, Randy or Randy, Tommy... I get confuse

smile


Had to be Randy, lol.
Reply #186 posted 05/08/09 9:56am

scriptgirl

I don't think Randy plays bass
"Lack of home training crosses all boundaries."
Reply #187 posted 05/08/09 2:00pm

DesireeNevermind

so with all the drama they've endured, do they have any money? are they MC Hamner Broke?
Reply #188 posted 05/08/09 2:00pm

scriptgirl

One thing I would love to ge to the bottom of: Does Debarge absolutely, positively not own their publishing at all or does Motown own it? And does El own any of his publishing from his solo stuff on Warner Brothers?
"Lack of home training crosses all boundaries."
Reply #189 posted 05/08/09 2:09pm

Timmy84

scriptgirl said:

One thing I would love to ge to the bottom of: Does Debarge absolutely, positively not own their publishing at all or does Motown own it? And does El own any of his publishing from his solo stuff on Warner Brothers?


Motown owns all their stuff but I do think BECAUSE their names are on their most popular songs (save from "Rhythm of the Night" and "Who's Holding Donna Now"), that they do get royalties but as for publishing? Nope that's in JOBETE, aka now part of Universal Motown.
Reply #190 posted 05/08/09 2:13pm

scriptgirl

Motown owns it because they own the masters, right? What about El's solo WB stuff? Does Motown own Switch's music as well?
"Lack of home training crosses all boundaries."
Reply #191 posted 05/08/09 2:19pm

Timmy84

scriptgirl said:

Motown owns it because they own the masters, right? What about El's solo WB stuff? Does Motown own Switch's music as well?


Yeah Motown owns the masters. As for the Warner Bros. stuff, I don't know, it's possible that Warner MAY own the masters too. Yeah all of Switch's songs (and the majority of Motown's material pre-1988) were copyrighted to Jobete, Berry's musical publishing company. All of Motown's Jobete music is now in control at Universal Motown.
Reply #192 posted 05/08/09 3:19pm

thatruth

EMI owns most of Debarge publishing along with the rest of the Jobete roster, I think/I hope that they're getting their 50%, publishing deals are usually 50/50 split between artist and publisher, but when it comes to that as well as artists/performance royalties, it depends on what kind of contract they signed back in the day, probably 70/30 or 80/20 split which is pathetic. As far as masters, that's a no brainer, big fat no. Very few artists own their own masters.
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Reply #193 posted 05/08/09 3:23pm

DesireeNevermind

thatruth said:

EMI owns most of Debarge publishing along with the rest of the Jobete roster, I think/I hope that they're getting their 50%, publishing deals are usually 50/50 split between artist and publisher, but when it comes to that as well as artists royalties, it depends on what kind of contract they signed back in the day, probably 70/30 or 80/20 split which is pathetic. As far as masters, that's a no brainer, big fat no. Very few artists own their own masters.



And the one's that do, still aren't getting paid unless some other artists wants to re-record the song or if some ad exec wants to feature the songs in commercials. Ray Charles got PAYEEED and his family gettin' PAAIIIIIDDDD!!! That dude knew what was up!
Reply #194 posted 05/08/09 3:49pm

Timmy84

DesireeNevermind said:

thatruth said:

EMI owns most of Debarge publishing along with the rest of the Jobete roster, I think/I hope that they're getting their 50%, publishing deals are usually 50/50 split between artist and publisher, but when it comes to that as well as artists royalties, it depends on what kind of contract they signed back in the day, probably 70/30 or 80/20 split which is pathetic. As far as masters, that's a no brainer, big fat no. Very few artists own their own masters.



And the one's that do, still aren't getting paid unless some other artists wants to re-record the song or if some ad exec wants to feature the songs in commercials. Ray Charles got PAYEEED and his family gettin' PAAIIIIIDDDD!!! That dude knew what was up!


RIGHT! Ray was one of the ONLY artists who got it right, that's why he was smooth sailing. Thanks thatruth, I forgot about EMI but yeah they do own Motown masters.
Reply #195 posted 05/08/09 4:09pm

OldTeenager

Chic35 said:

BarackNRolla said:







Yall aint playing with this DeBarge Thread!!! But may I say something about the incident where El got arrested for domestic violence charges. Wasn't that the girlfriend he was accused for those charges? The reason why I said that was I remember him saying in a interview he did in Chico's 9s magazine that he and his girlfriend had been going at all day and at times it got heated. She left that evening and he went to sleep. But early that next morning he woke up from some banging on his door and it was the cops. I supply the link for you.Here's a little of what he said in that article. I don't believe Monique was the one he was accused of beating up on. Unless the girlfriend is Monique and I doubt that. Again here's the link!!!


El is just coming off of a run in with the law, where he was hit with a domestic
charge that was later thrown out in court, but brought to the forefront a handful of
other unresolved issues from years back. El, now a free man talked candidly about
his arrest and brief stint in the county jail. “It was eye opening,” El said wiping down
the center island in his kitchen and pausing to explain that they had a Barbeque
earlier. There were still trays and containers of food on the stove and on the counter
behind him. El continued to recount his recent struggles, explaining that the alleged
fight was just a blow up between his girlfriend and him that “got pretty heated at
times.” He admits that it seemed to go on and on and by the end of the evening,
she was gone and he was exhausted. He says that he went to bed and was
awakened by a persistent banging at the front door of his Palmdale, CA home. It
was the police following up on a call that they had received alleging assault on his
girlfriend. El says that he remembers thinking “Oh this is great,” as he was arrested
and booked. But that was only the beginning of his legal woes. Once in the system,
the state found several prior offenses, and failure to appear charges that El had yet
to address in court. El laughs, I knew that I was going to have some time to cool my
heals.


http://www.the9smag.com/sept07.pdf

Thank you!!!!! Thank you for clearing that up! Aint nobody playing with this freakin thread.....Nobody is doing malicious gossip! El is so down to earth it is pitiful.....My niece met El in her apt building when she moved from Boston and he was cool as a fan. I am a BIG Debarge FAN! I am just a straight shooter I don't sugar coat nothing! El is straight hood and it's all good with me! Now I just found out Monique and his divorce is final, and she knows about the molestation and incest that goes on in that Debarge family. When their divorce was final she stated that she NO LONGER will lets the kids around El's family! I can't blame Monique PROTECT YOUR BABIES!!! El love's women that is just him, and he had another women when he was with Tracey the first wife. When things go sour El don't see the point in hanging around...Uhhh NEXT! This suspposed to be a thread to discuss the Debarges well hell let's do just that. I ordered the Kept Ones book...can't wait for it to arrive!!!

That book will heal a lotta hurting people that are going through the same thing!

You remember back in the day during the Busy Body tour with Luther Vandross the Debarges was opening for Luther. It was a four month stint. Luther walked in and caught Bobby Debarge sexually assaulting James Debarge? Of course Luther was shocked but didn't make a big deal about it because he was gay waaaayyyy back then. The Debarges image was not that innocent some of the dirt leaked out. Not everybody was young naive fans that only believed what we saw on T.V. Back then the Debarges overshadowed the ENTIRE tour people went fanatic crazy over them![i]
I am not sure what's wrong, but it's probably your fault!
Reply #196 posted 05/08/09 4:18pm

Timmy84

OldTeenager said:

Chic35 said:


Thank you!!!!! Thank you for clearing that up! Aint nobody playing with this freakin thread.....Nobody is doing malicious gossip! El is so down to earth it is pitiful.....My niece met El in her apt building when she moved from Boston and he was cool as a fan. I am a BIG Debarge FAN! I am just a straight shooter I don't sugar coat nothing! El is straight hood and it's all good with me! Now I just found out Monique and his divorce is final, and she knows about the molestation and incest that goes on in that Debarge family. When their divorce was final she stated that she NO LONGER will lets the kids around El's family! I can't blame Monique PROTECT YOUR BABIES!!! El love's women that is just him, and he had another women when he was with Tracey the first wife. When things go sour El don't see the point in hanging around...Uhhh NEXT! This suspposed to be a thread to discuss the Debarges well hell let's do just that. I ordered the Kept Ones book...can't wait for it to arrive!!!

That book will heal a lotta hurting people that are going through the same thing!

You remember back in the day during the Busy Body tour with Luther Vandross the Debarges was opening for Luther. It was a four month stint. Luther walked in and caught Bobby Debarge sexually assaulting James Debarge? Of course Luther was shocked but didn't make a big deal about it because he was gay waaaayyyy back then. The Debarges image was not that innocent some of the dirt leaked out. Not everybody was young naive fans that only believed what we saw on T.V. Back then the Debarges overshadowed the ENTIRE tour people went fanatic crazy over them![i]


James mentions Bobby violently assaulting him during his childhood. But this is way over the top! eek
Reply #197 posted 05/08/09 4:37pm

scriptgirl

And of course you have cold hard facts to back up your potentially SLANDEROUS claim, right, Old Teenager?
[Edited 5/8/09 16:38pm]
"Lack of home training crosses all boundaries."
Reply #198 posted 05/08/09 4:55pm

TD3

scriptgirl said:

And of course you have cold hard facts to back up your potentially SLANDEROUS claim, right, Old Teenager?


luv4u said:
I notice that whatever you've been posting you have not posted any links to back up your posts. So I think we can all take what you say with a grain of salt. And another thing.... it's not nice to troll on a thread, mmmmKay??


Didn't our Moderator already admonish a certain someone for this sillyness?
Damn, how old are we? confused
Reply #199 posted 05/09/09 4:37am

Shango

Before Bobby, Gregory Williams and another member started Switch, they were part of "White Heat", Barry White's backing band.
They recorded one album. Bobby seemed about 19 years old and is seated on the frontcover (third from the right), and on the backcover (far right) :



I couldn't hear Bobby in this following clip though :

Reply #200 posted 05/09/09 11:49am

Timmy84

Shango said:

Before Bobby, Gregory Williams and another member started Switch, they were part of "White Heat", Barry White's backing band.
They recorded one album. Bobby seemed about 19 years old and is seated on the frontcover (third from the right), and on the backcover (far right) :



I couldn't hear Bobby in this following clip though :



It ain't hard to find Bobby in the cover. lol The long-haired, light one right there on the keyboards and sitting down near the saxophonist! lol
[Edited 5/9/09 11:49am]
Reply #201 posted 05/09/09 2:35pm

Ottensen

OldTeenager said:

Chic35 said:


Thank you!!!!! Thank you for clearing that up! Aint nobody playing with this freakin thread.....Nobody is doing malicious gossip! El is so down to earth it is pitiful.....My niece met El in her apt building when she moved from Boston and he was cool as a fan. I am a BIG Debarge FAN! I am just a straight shooter I don't sugar coat nothing! El is straight hood and it's all good with me! Now I just found out Monique and his divorce is final, and she knows about the molestation and incest that goes on in that Debarge family. When their divorce was final she stated that she NO LONGER will lets the kids around El's family! I can't blame Monique PROTECT YOUR BABIES!!! El love's women that is just him, and he had another women when he was with Tracey the first wife. When things go sour El don't see the point in hanging around...Uhhh NEXT! This suspposed to be a thread to discuss the Debarges well hell let's do just that. I ordered the Kept Ones book...can't wait for it to arrive!!!

That book will heal a lotta hurting people that are going through the same thing!

You remember back in the day during the Busy Body tour with Luther Vandross the Debarges was opening for Luther. It was a four month stint. Luther walked in and caught Bobby Debarge sexually assaulting James Debarge? Of course Luther was shocked but didn't make a big deal about it because he was gay waaaayyyy back then. The Debarges image was not that innocent some of the dirt leaked out. Not everybody was young naive fans that only believed what we saw on T.V. Back then the Debarges overshadowed the ENTIRE tour people went fanatic crazy over them![i]


Unless you can provide a source this is straight up unsubstantiated hearsay and downright slander. confused
Reply #202 posted 05/09/09 3:12pm

Shango

Timmy84 said:


It ain't hard to find Bobby in the cover. lol The long-haired, light one right there on the keyboards and sitting down near the saxophonist! lol
[Edited 5/9/09 11:49am]

doh! yepz falloff ... ya never can't be too shure lol
Reply #203 posted 05/09/09 3:46pm

TD3

Shango said:

Timmy84 said:


It ain't hard to find Bobby in the cover. lol The long-haired, light one right there on the keyboards and sitting down near the saxophonist! lol
[Edited 5/9/09 11:49am]

doh! yepz falloff ... ya never can't be too shure lol


Well damn, why they put Bobby waaaaay back there? Hell, a puff of wind could've blown him off the cliff!
Reply #204 posted 05/10/09 12:36pm

Cinnie

TD3 said:

Shango said:


doh! yepz falloff ... ya never can't be too shure lol


Well damn, why they put Bobby waaaaay back there? Hell, a puff of wind could've blown him off the cliff!

giggle

Reply #205 posted 05/10/09 12:50pm

Timmy84

Ottensen said:

OldTeenager said:


You remember back in the day during the Busy Body tour with Luther Vandross the Debarges was opening for Luther. It was a four month stint. Luther walked in and caught Bobby Debarge sexually assaulting James Debarge? Of course Luther was shocked but didn't make a big deal about it because he was gay waaaayyyy back then. The Debarges image was not that innocent some of the dirt leaked out. Not everybody was young naive fans that only believed what we saw on T.V. Back then the Debarges overshadowed the ENTIRE tour people went fanatic crazy over them![i]


Unless you can provide a source this is straight up unsubstantiated hearsay and downright slander. confused


highfive
Reply #206 posted 05/10/09 12:56pm

scriptgirl

My question is this-re Debarge and their publishing and their masters-doesn't that stuff eventually become public domain anyway?
"Lack of home training crosses all boundaries."
Reply #207 posted 05/10/09 1:22pm

TD3

scriptgirl said:

My question is this-re Debarge and their publishing and their masters-doesn't that stuff eventually become public domain anyway?


United States Copyright Law
US copyright law is found in Title 17 of the United States Code and is administered by the US Copyright Office. " Terms for Copyright Protection", a U.S. Government publication, summarizes the current duration of copyright protection for published works as follows:

Works created after 1/1/1978 - life of the longest surviving author plus 70 years - earliest possible PD date is 1/1/2048
Works registered before 1/1/1978 - 95 years from the date copyright was secured.
Works registered before 1/1/1923 - Copyright protection for 75 years has expired and these works are in the public domain.

Rule of Thumb for Public Domain Music
Works published in the United States with a copyright date of 1922 or earlier are in the public domain in the United States.
Copyright protection outside the USA is determined by the laws of the country where you wish to use a work. Copyright protection may be 95 years from publication date, 50 to 70 years after the death of the last surviving author, or other criteria depending on where the work was first published and how the work is to be used.
Reply #208 posted 05/10/09 2:13pm

scriptgirl

Thanks for that!
"Lack of home training crosses all boundaries."
Reply #209 posted 05/10/09 2:16pm

scriptgirl

Too bad that White Heat Album cover isn't clearer.
"Lack of home training crosses all boundaries."
Reply #210 posted 05/10/09 2:19pm

scriptgirl

Some Debarge Concert/Performance pics








[Edited 5/10/09 14:23pm]
"Lack of home training crosses all boundaries."
Reply #211 posted 05/10/09 2:29pm

scriptgirl

Here is the first single off of "All This Love". It was released before "I Like It".
"Lack of home training crosses all boundaries."
Reply #212 posted 05/10/09 2:32pm

scriptgirl

El, Barry White, James Ingram and Barry White, singing "Secret Garden"
"Lack of home training crosses all boundaries."
Reply #213 posted 05/11/09 3:33am

TD3

Reply #214 posted 05/11/09 6:40pm

scriptgirl

Tracks from Chico's 2nd cd


[Edited 5/11/09 18:43pm]
"Lack of home training crosses all boundaries."
Reply #215 posted 05/12/09 1:17pm

DesireeNevermind

Timmy84 said:

OldTeenager said:


You remember back in the day during the Busy Body tour with Luther Vandross the Debarges was opening for Luther. It was a four month stint. Luther walked in and caught Bobby Debarge sexually assaulting James Debarge? Of course Luther was shocked but didn't make a big deal about it because he was gay waaaayyyy back then. The Debarges image was not that innocent some of the dirt leaked out. Not everybody was young naive fans that only believed what we saw on T.V. Back then the Debarges overshadowed the ENTIRE tour people went fanatic crazy over them![i]


James mentions Bobby violently assaulting him during his childhood. But this is way over the top! eek



What the hell??? Noooo. that must be a mistake. He must a just beat him up. I cannot believe that Bobby would do that to his younger brother. That is nasty and evil and why would he single out james and not the others. This is wrong, wrong wrong!!!! hmph!
Reply #216 posted 05/12/09 4:57pm

Fridayfoster

DesireeNevermind said:[quote]

Timmy84 said:



James mentions Bobby violently assaulting him during his childhood. But this is way over the top! eek



What the hell??? Noooo. that must be a mistake. He must a just beat him up. I cannot believe that Bobby would do that to his younger brother. That is nasty and evil and why would he single out james and not the others. This is wrong,
ong wrong!!!! hmph![/quote


This is so wrong on so many levels.All I can say is WOW sad
Reply #217 posted 05/12/09 5:51pm

scriptgirl

First of all that story has no factual basis. It is a sensational story designed to cause trouble and get everyone's drawers in an uproar. IGNORE IT and stories like it. That is not what this thread is about. If you want to comment about bs nasty rumors like that, pm the person who posts it, but I and others would appreciate it if tales like that were not posted on this thread or responded to.

MOVING ON!
[Edited 5/12/09 17:52pm]
"Lack of home training crosses all boundaries."
Reply #218 posted 05/12/09 11:35pm

Timmy84

DesireeNevermind said:

Timmy84 said:



James mentions Bobby violently assaulting him during his childhood. But this is way over the top! eek



What the hell??? Noooo. that must be a mistake. He must a just beat him up. I cannot believe that Bobby would do that to his younger brother. That is nasty and evil and why would he single out james and not the others. This is wrong, wrong wrong!!!! hmph!


Ask him, lol.
Reply #219 posted 05/13/09 5:23am

daingermouz2020

OldTeenager said:

Chic35 said:


Thank you!!!!! Thank you for clearing that up! Aint nobody playing with this freakin thread.....Nobody is doing malicious gossip! El is so down to earth it is pitiful.....My niece met El in her apt building when she moved from Boston and he was cool as a fan. I am a BIG Debarge FAN! I am just a straight shooter I don't sugar coat nothing! El is straight hood and it's all good with me! Now I just found out Monique and his divorce is final, and she knows about the molestation and incest that goes on in that Debarge family. When their divorce was final she stated that she NO LONGER will lets the kids around El's family! I can't blame Monique PROTECT YOUR BABIES!!! El love's women that is just him, and he had another women when he was with Tracey the first wife. When things go sour El don't see the point in hanging around...Uhhh NEXT! This suspposed to be a thread to discuss the Debarges well hell let's do just that. I ordered the Kept Ones book...can't wait for it to arrive!!!

That book will heal a lotta hurting people that are going through the same thing!

You remember back in the day during the Busy Body tour with Luther Vandross the Debarges was opening for Luther. It was a four month stint. Luther walked in and caught Bobby Debarge sexually assaulting James Debarge? Of course Luther was shocked but didn't make a big deal about it because he was gay waaaayyyy back then. The Debarges image was not that innocent some of the dirt leaked out. Not everybody was young naive fans that only believed what we saw on T.V. Back then the Debarges overshadowed the ENTIRE tour people went fanatic crazy over them![i]



When Debarge opened for Luther Bobby Debarge was not apart of Debarge so what was he doing there. was he just tagging along. This story however is highly unlikely.
Reply #220 posted 05/13/09 8:19am

scriptgirl

Please drop this. This story is not worth talking about. Let's MOVE ON!
"Lack of home training crosses all boundaries."
Reply #221 posted 05/13/09 8:55am

DesireeNevermind

How many kids does El have? From each wife? Its sad that love is not consistent in his life...his ballads were so heartfelt. Yeah Yeah I know, somebody else wrote them but he made them his in the way he sang. My favs will always be I Call Your Name and Love Me In A Special Way. sigh
Reply #222 posted 05/13/09 9:14am

scriptgirl

El has 11 kids-there is the mother of his eldest, daughter Adris, his first wife, a former Soul Train dancer who is the mother of El Jr, his second wife Tracey, who is the mother of 2 of his kids and his third wife Monique, who he had 5 kids with. There are 2 kids that I know nothing about.
"Lack of home training crosses all boundaries."
Reply #223 posted 05/13/09 12:41pm

DesireeNevermind

scriptgirl said:

El has 11 kids-there is the mother of his eldest, daughter Adris, his first wife, a former Soul Train dancer who is the mother of El Jr, his second wife Tracey, who is the mother of 2 of his kids and his third wife Monique, who he had 5 kids with. There are 2 kids that I know nothing about.



Wow 11 kids? I hope he is able to financially provide for them but it doesn't seem that way when drugs take up a big chunk of yo money. Pretty boys always have a bunch of kids. Sheesh these women! But I guess if i was married to him i'd knock out at least one for love and legacy purposes. confused
Reply #224 posted 05/13/09 12:47pm

Timmy84

DesireeNevermind said:

How many kids does El have? From each wife? Its sad that love is not consistent in his life...his ballads were so heartfelt. Yeah Yeah I know, somebody else wrote them but he made them his in the way he sang. My favs will always be I Call Your Name and Love Me In A Special Way. sigh


He did write them ("All This Love", "Love Me in a Special Way", "Time Will Reveal", tho I think Bunny wrote the lyrics on the last one).

"I Call Your Name" is a Switch song. smile
Reply #225 posted 05/13/09 12:50pm

DesireeNevermind

Timmy84 said:

DesireeNevermind said:

How many kids does El have? From each wife? Its sad that love is not consistent in his life...his ballads were so heartfelt. Yeah Yeah I know, somebody else wrote them but he made them his in the way he sang. My favs will always be I Call Your Name and Love Me In A Special Way. sigh


He did write them ("All This Love", "Love Me in a Special Way", "Time Will Reveal", tho I think Bunny wrote the lyrics on the last one).

"I Call Your Name" is a Switch song. smile



But i heard that was Eldra's vocals on the song. He shoulda had bankroll then if he wrote the songs. Well i guess that's how he affording 11 kids. confused
Reply #226 posted 05/13/09 1:02pm

TD3

Script. Rate your favorite Chico albums in order. Did you like "Kiss Serious"?
Reply #227 posted 05/13/09 2:09pm

scriptgirl

You can't trust hearsay. El was not in Switch-it was his brother Bobby. Also, El did write those songs. As has been discussed in this thread, El does not own the rights to his publishing.

TD3, I wasn't aware of Chico until "Long Time" came out. I haven't heard his 80s stuff till now and with few exceptions, I don't think i'ts very good.
"Lack of home training crosses all boundaries."
Reply #228 posted 05/13/09 2:34pm

DesireeNevermind

scriptgirl said:

You can't trust hearsay. El was not in Switch-it was his brother Bobby. Also, El did write those songs. As has been discussed in this thread, El does not own the rights to his publishing.

TD3, I wasn't aware of Chico until "Long Time" came out. I haven't heard his 80s stuff till now and with few exceptions, I don't think i'ts very good.



So that's Bobby singing on I call Your Name? Dayum they sound exactly alike. Bobby just doesn't look like a falsetto to me...I can't explain it. When i googled the lyrics El's name pops up. that's so sad Bobby died of aids. if they would have had a decent father i don't think they would have fallen prey to the demons of the entertainment industry. sad
Reply #229 posted 05/13/09 3:13pm

scriptgirl

I don't think you can just place the blame with their father. The mother kept going back to him and having kids by him.
"Lack of home training crosses all boundaries."
Reply #230 posted 05/13/09 3:34pm

scriptgirl

Chico last weekend
"Lack of home training crosses all boundaries."
Reply #231 posted 05/13/09 4:11pm

Fridayfoster

scriptgirl said:

I don't think you can just place the blame with their father. The mother kept going back to him and having kids by him.



Please explain your theory of this.Their mother was having children during the 50's and 60's.Remember there was no shelter for abused women back then and much less for a black woman.On the Unsung program The mother said she could not go to her family because she had to many children to house.But the father is the abuser of that family.Sexually,mentally and phisically.Yes,I think the father is a BIG problem of thier mishaps.Maybe Ms.Debarge could have protected them better,but what is a woman to do when she is getting beat down too?Abuse is an UGLY thing.If you haven't been through it you can't speak on it.
Reply #232 posted 05/13/09 4:35pm

scriptgirl

I think she helped to enable the dad by staying. I also don't understand why you would keep having kids by a man who is abusing you and the kids you already have. I don't have to have been abused to speak about it, just like I don't have to be an alcoholic to speak about that either. People have opinions. You may think mine is wrong, but there it is.
"Lack of home training crosses all boundaries."
Reply #233 posted 05/14/09 1:32pm

DesireeNevermind

scriptgirl said:

I think she helped to enable the dad by staying. I also don't understand why you would keep having kids by a man who is abusing you and the kids you already have. I don't have to have been abused to speak about it, just like I don't have to be an alcoholic to speak about that either. People have opinions. You may think mine is wrong, but there it is.



Marital Rape and illegal abortion = a bunch a kids by an abusive husband.

I seriously don't think she laid with him willingly and I could understand a mother not wanting to split up her children via foster care or wards of the state i think the term was many years ago.
Reply #234 posted 05/14/09 1:59pm

scriptgirl

I think things in the beginning were quite different. I think there may have been real love there-at least on the mom's part.
"Lack of home training crosses all boundaries."
Reply #235 posted 05/14/09 3:13pm

DesireeNevermind

the other possiblity is...and I know somebody gonna have a problem with this...but maybe she wanted as many mixed babies as her body would allow. Now I don't think it was necessarily like that, but I've seen some chicks with a lot of mixed kids by dudes who weren't worth the skin they were born in all cuz some chick wanted so called "pretty" babies.

alright let the onslaught begin confused
Reply #236 posted 05/14/09 3:18pm

scriptgirl

She is very religious and I doubt she would have used birth control anyway
"Lack of home training crosses all boundaries."
Reply #237 posted 05/14/09 3:21pm

scriptgirl

"Lack of home training crosses all boundaries."
Reply #238 posted 05/14/09 3:23pm

scriptgirl

New Kristinia song
"Make a Girl Happy"
"Lack of home training crosses all boundaries."
Reply #239 posted 05/14/09 3:29pm

scriptgirl

New Kristina song, "Gotta Be Love"
"Lack of home training crosses all boundaries."
Reply #240 posted 05/14/09 3:50pm

scriptgirl

Debarges with other famous people
El and Missy

Chico and Kelley Price

El and Miss Ross



El and Teena Marie

Chico and Bobby Brown

El, Stephanie Mills and the Winans

Debarge members and Bobby with Jesse Jackson

Chico and Keith Sweat

[Edited 5/14/09 15:55pm]
"Lack of home training crosses all boundaries."
Reply #241 posted 05/14/09 4:06pm

scriptgirl

Great Song from "All This Love:
"Lack of home training crosses all boundaries."
Reply #242 posted 05/14/09 4:13pm

DesireeNevermind

Everytime I see Keith Sweat I think of that Atlanta Housewife! confused


Wow El was skinnier than Mz Ross!!!


i love all these pics mushy
Reply #243 posted 05/14/09 4:25pm

Fridayfoster

DesireeNevermind said:

Everytime I see Keith Sweat I think of that Atlanta Housewife! confused


Wow El was skinnier than Mz Ross!!!


i love all these pics mushy



He is skinny isn't he? I bet he could eat some food though.Most skinny folks do.
Reply #244 posted 05/14/09 4:29pm

DesireeNevermind

Fridayfoster said:

DesireeNevermind said:

Everytime I see Keith Sweat I think of that Atlanta Housewife! confused


Wow El was skinnier than Mz Ross!!!


i love all these pics mushy



He is skinny isn't he? I bet he could eat some food though.Most skinny folks do.



Skinny dudes have big schlongs too. Nature has a sense of humor don't she?
Reply #245 posted 05/14/09 4:30pm

Fridayfoster

DesireeNevermind said:

the other possiblity is...and I know somebody gonna have a problem with this...but maybe she wanted as many mixed babies as her body would allow. Now I don't think it was necessarily like that, but I've seen some chicks with a lot of mixed kids by dudes who weren't worth the skin they were born in all cuz some chick wanted so called "pretty" babies.

alright let the onslaught begin confused



This is sad but true to SOME black women.I wish SOME sistas would not think like this and love their beautiful brown skin.It is slave thinking.
Reply #246 posted 05/14/09 4:34pm

Fridayfoster

DesireeNevermind said:

Fridayfoster said:




He is skinny isn't he? I bet he could eat some food though.Most skinny folks do.



Skinny dudes have big schlongs too. Nature has a sense of humor don't she?


That maybe true about skinny dudes with big you know what (trying to be nice here wink ) Yes Ms.Nature has a sense of humor.
Reply #247 posted 05/14/09 4:43pm

DesireeNevermind

Fridayfoster said:

DesireeNevermind said:

the other possiblity is...and I know somebody gonna have a problem with this...but maybe she wanted as many mixed babies as her body would allow. Now I don't think it was necessarily like that, but I've seen some chicks with a lot of mixed kids by dudes who weren't worth the skin they were born in all cuz some chick wanted so called "pretty" babies.

alright let the onslaught begin confused



This is sad but true to SOME black women.I wish SOME sistas would not think like this and love their beautiful brown skin.It is slave thinking.



there are white girls that think this way too. I have a friend. She won't date anybody but a black guy and has 2 kids cuz she wanted her own lil "lisa bonet" as she calls it and some dude from Highschool musical (can't remember the name) she says she won't have a baby by a white guy cuz "she's not tryna do her kids like that". I luv the kids but they are nothing special to look at.
confused
Reply #248 posted 05/14/09 10:46pm

Ottensen

scriptgirl said:

She is very religious and I doubt she would have used birth control anyway


But you also have to keep in mind that this was different era in terms of what was available to women for contraception. First of all, although the birth control pill was FDA approved in 61, it wasn't available to prescribe to married women until '65 , and it took a Supreme Court ruling for that to happen (and for single women, they couldn't be prescribed the pill until the early 70's)... IUDs were just coming into wider use in the 60's in the United States, and statistics from that time show that only 30% of American married couples used diaphragms. So just assuming she would not have used birth control isn't very logical or fair, considering how restricted its' availability was in her time.

Birth control for a woman in a repressed patriarcal society, and a black woman in an interracial marriage in a nation with no women's reproductive rights,let alone civil rights essentially meant two things:

1. Attempt to refuse the advances of your husband (which I can't see living in the 1950's when womwn were still treated as 2nd class citizens, let alone a black woman having the nerve to be married to a white man. That was stigmatic in itself and pushed her further down the social totem pole)...

2. If you get caught up with a baby in your belly, you have to somehow find the money, resources,and connection to make a date with a coat hanger in some dingy back alley "medical office"...
Reply #249 posted 05/14/09 10:53pm

DesireeNevermind

Ottensen said:

scriptgirl said:

She is very religious and I doubt she would have used birth control anyway


But you also have to keep in mind that this was different era in terms of what was available to women for contraception. First of all, although the birth control pill was FDA approved in 61, it wasn't available to prescribe to married women until '65 , and it took a Supreme Court ruling for that to happen (and for single women, they couldn't be prescribed the pill until the early 70's)... IUDs were just coming into wider use in the 60's in the United States, and statistics from that time show that only 30% of American married couples used diaphragms. So just assuming she would not have used birth control isn't very logical or fair, considering how restricted its' availability was in her time.

Birth control for a woman in a repressed patriarcal society, and a black woman in an interracial marriage in a nation with no women's reproductive rights,let alone civil rights essentially meant two things:

1. Attempt to refuse the advances of your husband (which I can't see living in the 1950's when womwn were still treated as 2nd class citizens, let alone a black woman having the nerve to be married to a white man. That was stigmatic in itself and pushed her further down the social totem pole)...

2. If you get caught up with a baby in your belly, you have to somehow find the money, resources,and connection to make a date with a coat hanger in some dingy back alley "medical office"...



Good Lord we were like Afghanistan at one time. All that's missing from this is a Burka!
Reply #250 posted 05/14/09 10:53pm

scriptgirl

Ottensen, I bow to you. Thanks for sharing your thoughts and knowledge.
"Lack of home training crosses all boundaries."
Reply #251 posted 05/14/09 11:22pm

Ottensen

DesireeNevermind said:

Ottensen said:



But you also have to keep in mind that this was different era in terms of what was available to women for contraception. First of all, although the birth control pill was FDA approved in 61, it wasn't available to prescribe to married women until '65 , and it took a Supreme Court ruling for that to happen (and for single women, they couldn't be prescribed the pill until the early 70's)... IUDs were just coming into wider use in the 60's in the United States, and statistics from that time show that only 30% of American married couples used diaphragms. So just assuming she would not have used birth control isn't very logical or fair, considering how restricted its' availability was in her time.

Birth control for a woman in a repressed patriarcal society, and a black woman in an interracial marriage in a nation with no women's reproductive rights,let alone civil rights essentially meant two things:

1. Attempt to refuse the advances of your husband (which I can't see living in the 1950's when womwn were still treated as 2nd class citizens, let alone a black woman having the nerve to be married to a white man. That was stigmatic in itself and pushed her further down the social totem pole)...

2. If you get caught up with a baby in your belly, you have to somehow find the money, resources,and connection to make a date with a coat hanger in some dingy back alley "medical office"...



Good Lord we were like Afghanistan at one time. All that's missing from this is a Burka!


Gurl, you ain't neva lied!
Reply #252 posted 05/14/09 11:55pm

Ottensen

scriptgirl said:

Ottensen, I bow to you. Thanks for sharing your thoughts and knowledge.


I'm telling you, Ladies, we are so lucky to have neen born in the times that we were born in nod

I mean, think about it...it's the 1950's, interracial marriage is a crime punishable by law in parts of the country...even into the 60's where anti-mscegenation (anti-race mixing) laws were being repealed, they used to take Gallup polls showing that over 95% of white Americans disapproved of interrracial marriage...this family must have been a living breathing walking freak show wherever they went.

Add that to being a poor, black, unskilled wife who married young; without a college education she would have had limited choices for lucrative employment and setting aside money for her escape. Even if she could have landed a job as waitress or maid...that would mean she would have had to leave her kids at home in his care. Because after all, who's going to help the walking freakshow family? It not like there was money or resources for childcare service back then, and even if there was, do you really think (based on the stigma at the time) anyone wold be interested in taking on those types of children?

So basically, being a religious woman, stuck with an abusive husband who holds all the social power simply because he is white (remember the tales of the police showing up for their domestic disputes but then always leaving without filling out a report once they saw that they were an interracial couple?), you're already a 2nd class citizen as woman in 1950's America, and you have few reproductive rights...sorry, but you culdn't PAY me to go back to this era...not even you you guaranteed me 100 million dollas and a trip back to the future wink. So yup, I tend to be a littl easier on the mother involved in this scenario...

The only thing I've often wrestled with, with this concept, is the sexual abuse against the children and how she couldwithstand it (if she even knew about it). I mean, we've all read enough Alice Walker and Toni Morrison to know that these stories are out there in real life. But part of me is actually surprised not that she didn't leave him, but how he managed to not, well, get killed. I guess ultimately it goes back to him being the sole provider, higher on the social totem pole (even though he was clearly a sick bastard) and had he suddenly turned up missing, they would have got her ass, and then the kids would have ended up as orphans in a very unforgiving system...

I still could see myself thinking though,

"You know Bob, you are very lucky to be alive, my friend"


Yeah,the more I thinkof it, we really are lucky that we have a million choices as women today, and we don't have to be rich to have them either shake
Reply #253 posted 05/15/09 1:05am

scriptgirl

I think the mom did know about the abuse. Bunny said recently, she and her mom weren't speaking and that is due in part to Bunny's book, but maybe also because of the mom not protecting Bunny from the dad.

I could be wrong, but I don't think Chico (born 66) and the twins (born in 70)
went through a lot of trauma re being biracial. I knos Chico has never spoken of it-not that that means anything-but I since they were born so much later than many of their siblings, I wonder if the impact of abuse was lessened.
"Lack of home training crosses all boundaries."
Reply #254 posted 05/15/09 3:22am

daingermouz2020

DesireeNevermind said:

the other possiblity is...and I know somebody gonna have a problem with this...but maybe she wanted as many mixed babies as her body would allow. Now I don't think it was necessarily like that, but I've seen some chicks with a lot of mixed kids by dudes who weren't worth the skin they were born in all cuz some chick wanted so called "pretty" babies.

alright let the onslaught begin confused



DesireeNevermind I was thinking the same thing.
Reply #255 posted 05/15/09 6:05pm

scriptgirl

From Reuters:
One of the prominent R&B family acts of the '80s was Motown's DeBarge. Now Kristinia DeBarge, daughter of founding member/keyboardist James, is taking the group's musical legacy to new heights.

The 19-year-old recently entered the Billboard Hot 100 with her first single, "Goodbye." Sampling Steam's 1969 pop No. 1, "Na Na Hey Hey Kiss Him Goodbye," the song is No. 30 on the tally and also appears in the latest Nivea ad campaign.

DeBarge is signed to Sodapop Music, a new label co-founded by Kenneth "Babyface" Edmonds and industry veteran Jeff Burroughs. Her as-yet-untitled album is scheduled for a summer release through Island Def Jam.

DeBarge describes the album as "empowering and inspirational, aiming to give women strength and help young girls feel like they're not alone. It's the kind of album that will make you feel like everything is OK."

Tracks include "Cry Me a River," about a girl ready to move on from a painful breakup; "Sabotage," chronicling the struggles of peer pressure; and the ballad "It's Gotta Be Love."

DeBarge says she separates herself from other artists by embracing her vulnerability instead of looking on it as a bad thing. "It allows me to be who I am, to be compassionate and sing beautiful songs," she says.

She launched her career when she participated in "American Juniors," an "American Idol" spinoff, in 2003, and reached the top 20. Once filming ended, she joined her father on tour.

It was during one of those shows that the 14-year-old DeBarge met Edmonds. He took her under his wing and has been working with her for the past five years. Their efforts paid off on the eve of her 19th birthday in April, when DeBarge met with Island Def Jam chairman Antonio "L.A." Reid and signed her first label contract.

Now she's ready to further develop her birthright. "Being a DeBarge has done nothing but bring good things my way," she says. "I've worked hard for everything that's come my way. But I also know my last name has been in my corner."
"Lack of home training crosses all boundaries."
Reply #256 posted 05/15/09 6:27pm

TD3

I wish Ms. Kristinia DeBarge well but what I've heard. bored2
I'm aware of her "target audience" but lets hope she has the talent to produce something with a lil bit more.. substanance.
Reply #257 posted 05/15/09 7:10pm

scriptgirl

Yeah, I am not crazy about her music-that said, she does have a VERY good voice-youtube her American juniors perf. The fact that her music is so poor has more to do with the shittiness of the biz in general. That said, it is nice to see another Debarge out there, keeping the name alive!
"Lack of home training crosses all boundaries."
Reply #258 posted 05/15/09 8:40pm

scriptgirl

New Chico pics from his forth coming cd, "Addiction"






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"Lack of home training crosses all boundaries."
Reply #259 posted 05/15/09 11:23pm

Chic35

Ottensen said:

scriptgirl said:

Ottensen, I bow to you. Thanks for sharing your thoughts and knowledge.


I'm telling you, Ladies, we are so lucky to have neen born in the times that we were born in nod

I mean, think about it...it's the 1950's, interracial marriage is a crime punishable by law in parts of the country...even into the 60's where anti-mscegenation (anti-race mixing) laws were being repealed, they used to take Gallup polls showing that over 95% of white Americans disapproved of interrracial marriage...this family must have been a living breathing walking freak show wherever they went.

Add that to being a poor, black, unskilled wife who married young; without a college education she would have had limited choices for lucrative employment and setting aside money for her escape. Even if she could have landed a job as waitress or maid...that would mean she would have had to leave her kids at home in his care. Because after all, who's going to help the walking freakshow family? It not like there was money or resources for childcare service back then, and even if there was, do you really think (based on the stigma at the time) anyone wold be interested in taking on those types of children?

So basically, being a religious woman, stuck with an abusive husband who holds all the social power simply because he is white (remember the tales of the police showing up for their domestic disputes but then always leaving without filling out a report once they saw that they were an interracial couple?), you're already a 2nd class citizen as woman in 1950's America, and you have few reproductive rights...sorry, but you culdn't PAY me to go back to this era...not even you you guaranteed me 100 million dollas and a trip back to the future wink. So yup, I tend to be a littl easier on the mother involved in this scenario...

The only thing I've often wrestled with, with this concept, is the sexual abuse against the children and how she couldwithstand it (if she even knew about it). I mean, we've all read enough Alice Walker and Toni Morrison to know that these stories are out there in real life. But part of me is actually surprised not that she didn't leave him, but how he managed to not, well, get killed. I guess ultimately it goes back to him being the sole provider, higher on the social totem pole (even though he was clearly a sick bastard) and had he suddenly turned up missing, they would have got her ass, and then the kids would have ended up as orphans in a very unforgiving system...

I still could see myself thinking though,

"You know Bob, you are very lucky to be alive, my friend"


Yeah,the more I thinkof it, we really are lucky that we have a million choices as women today, and we don't have to be rich to have them either shake


Wow Wow Wow you hit on some VERY GREAT points!!!! The fact still remains that she could have left before she produced more children. In fact the sad part is she did keep leaving him in between children; she kept stating NOBODY WANTED TO TAKE CARE OF ME AND ALL THOSE KIDS!!!

Etterlene came from a huge christian family right there there in Detroit with her. If you read between the lines they didn't want to or couldn't afford to take care of her and all those kids.... She knew about the sexual abuse going on and did nothing about it maybe she felt helpless. Her brothers didn't like what was going on under that roof and tried to intervene but she took up for her husband! Back then they would have been lynched for abusing a white man! What a shitty situation to be in. Mama D had to have low self esteem about being so dark; and needing to be loved no matter how dysfunctional it seemed. She said she didn't think Robert Debarge would like her because she was so dark; that is an emotionally unstable comment right there.

She had to feel guilty about the abuse because she let the children run the streets they were wild and ghetto. They were street with no home training and neither of those 10 children she had graduated from high school. Not a single child. Bunny, Bobby and Tommy was already dabbling into drugs before fortune and fame. Their mother is and was color struck and she had no attraction to the black man. It could be because they teased her growing up about her being so dark! You are soooo right about those abortion methods my Grandmother was telling me, you had to use a coat hanger and COCA COLA, it was so STRONG they used it for abortions!!!

Bunny said she hated that her mother and father was married it was embarrassing when they went out in public. She said they didn't see any kids that looked like them. People stared at them all the time pointing and whispering. I can see why Bunny started using drugs at a early age. They caught pure HELL everywhere they went for being multi-racial. African americans can be very racist as well against their own kind let alone a white person, especially back then. El said they were teased and called half-breeds everyday.

Our own black president started doing destructive behavior during his teens because he was mixed and being raised by his white mother and grandma. He said he felt worthless. Mixed kids till this day catch hell!

Bobby didn't introduce them to drugs Bunny did...I hope hatred is not in their hearts against their mother.
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Reply #260 posted 05/15/09 11:25pm

TD3

scriptgirl said:

Yeah, I am not crazy about her music-that said, she does have a VERY good voice-youtube her American juniors perf. The fact that her music is so poor has more to do with the shittiness of the biz in general. That said, it is nice to see another Debarge out there, keeping the name alive!


This is soooo true. Though I think if they (the record companies) continue to put our junk, the are writing their own epitaph. As far as the younger generation of DeBarges I haven't heard anyone yet I thought could sing. Being able to sing on key doesn't make you a good singer let alone a great one. The only one who appears to have a little something on the ball is Andrew...I don't know who's kid he is. He seems to have some arranging/ songwriting/production skills and plays a mean guitar plus keyboard. Singing, I don't know maybe Andrew needs time to find his own voice.
Reply #261 posted 05/15/09 11:34pm

scriptgirl

Andrew is Bobby's son. Give it time. There's 50 million Debarge grandkids. Someone has to have talent!
"Lack of home training crosses all boundaries."
Reply #262 posted 05/15/09 11:40pm

TD3

scriptgirl said:

Andrew is Bobby's son. Give it time. There's 50 million Debarge grandkids. Someone has to have talent!


falloff
Reply #263 posted 05/16/09 12:02am

Chic35

DesireeNevermind said:

Timmy84 said:



James mentions Bobby violently assaulting him during his childhood. But this is way over the top! eek



What the hell??? Noooo. that must be a mistake. He must a just beat him up. I cannot believe that Bobby would do that to his younger brother. That is nasty and evil and why would he single out james and not the others. This is wrong, wrong wrong!!!! hmph!

My mother went to this Busy Body concert back in the day she was a Big Luther Vandross fan. It was a big stank about that but it was quickly hushed up when James and Janet eloped! James kept saying Bobby abused them dearly especially him because James was his daddy's favorite child, he got all the love and attention including more toys. This family has had deep incest going on in it. I believe if CPS could have stepped in back then they wouldn't because the Debarge clan was considered to be walking half- breed FREAKS! They had no protection, and if you read between the lines, Unsung is saying in the nicest way possible every evil, terrible thing their father wanted to do to them; he did! It affected Bobby mentally as well. That clan suffered a lot abuse at the hands of their dad! Like Bonnie said the damage is already done in her life... sad

You can't really point the finger because EVERY PREDATOR was once a victim in most cases; and in other cases people just need medication for mental issues. Quincy Jones and Babyface know about the abuse, believe it or not a lotta stars know about the Debarge deep dark secrets. To them it's no big deal to them because they got their deep dark secrets as well.... neutral
The message you are about to hear are not meant for transmission. Should ONLY be accessed in the privacy of your mind. Words are so intense so if you dare to listen.Take off your clothes and meet me between the lines. wildsign
Reply #264 posted 05/16/09 12:32am

Chic35

DesireeNevermind said:

scriptgirl said:

El has 11 kids-there is the mother of his eldest, daughter Adris, his first wife, a former Soul Train dancer who is the mother of El Jr, his second wife Tracey, who is the mother of 2 of his kids and his third wife Monique, who he had 5 kids with. There are 2 kids that I know nothing about.



Wow 11 kids? I hope he is able to financially provide for them but it doesn't seem that way when drugs take up a big chunk of yo money. Pretty boys always have a bunch of kids. Sheesh these women! But I guess if i was married to him i'd knock out at least one for love and legacy purposes. confused


These silly over crazed groupie female fans keep having babies by poor EL, not to mention his wives added to the count! He is in financial hardship his mother said they are strapped for money! Duh El said that was his home he was arrested in, Okay Palmdale/Lancaster,CA is the slums. There are gangs, violence, crack and meth infestestation right in the area he lives in. The stench of Meth is in the air just go take a drive down there. If he had a fat bank roll then why the hell would he be living in that dumpy area??? Illegal drugs are expensive, them dope dealers ain't riding around in expensive cars and living the ghetto fabulous life for nothing!!!

El got more kids than that and counting! His mama said he was the father of a NATION!!! That is putting it lightly. You gotta know if he's high while he's performing (Go on youtube and watch it for yourselves) the groupies are waiting on him to party and play. These dumb groupies will KEEP HAVING HIS BABIES coked out or not.... I believe he conceived most of them while he was high. The sad part is the groupie don't love him they only wanna be with him because he is EL Debarge and he got light-skin with good hair. It sounds ridiculous but it's a lotta stupid women out there... eek Damn the man is doing bad these Ladies need to let him MAKE IT!!!! lol
The message you are about to hear are not meant for transmission. Should ONLY be accessed in the privacy of your mind. Words are so intense so if you dare to listen.Take off your clothes and meet me between the lines. wildsign
Reply #265 posted 05/16/09 2:37pm

scriptgirl

Andrew Debarge live
"Lack of home training crosses all boundaries."
Reply #266 posted 05/16/09 2:40pm

scriptgirl

Another Andrew Video
"Lack of home training crosses all boundaries."
Reply #267 posted 05/16/09 2:45pm

scriptgirl

"Lack of home training crosses all boundaries."
Reply #268 posted 05/16/09 2:51pm

scriptgirl

Actually, I think Andrew is Tommy's son-Bobby's sons are named Bobby and Christian.
"Lack of home training crosses all boundaries."
Reply #269 posted 05/16/09 2:54pm

scriptgirl

"Lack of home training crosses all boundaries."
Reply #270 posted 05/16/09 2:59pm

scriptgirl

The Brothers Debarge
James, Mark El and Tommy, 2007

James, El and Tommy 2007

El and Randy in Hawaii

El (in red) and Chico

Debarge at Jet offices (interesting note-during Debarge's heyday, Jet and Ebony never did an article on them!)

Chico and James

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"Lack of home training crosses all boundaries."
Reply #271 posted 05/16/09 3:08pm

scriptgirl

"Lack of home training crosses all boundaries."
Reply #272 posted 05/16/09 9:01pm

BarackNRolla

Chic35 said:

BarackNRolla said:







Yall aint playing with this DeBarge Thread!!! But may I say something about the incident where El got arrested for domestic violence charges. Wasn't that the girlfriend he was accused for those charges? The reason why I said that was I remember him saying in a interview he did in Chico's 9s magazine that he and his girlfriend had been going at all day and at times it got heated. She left that evening and he went to sleep. But early that next morning he woke up from some banging on his door and it was the cops. I supply the link for you.Here's a little of what he said in that article. I don't believe Monique was the one he was accused of beating up on. Unless the girlfriend is Monique and I doubt that. Again here's the link!!!


El is just coming off of a run in with the law, where he was hit with a domestic
charge that was later thrown out in court, but brought to the forefront a handful of
other unresolved issues from years back. El, now a free man talked candidly about
his arrest and brief stint in the county jail. “It was eye opening,” El said wiping down
the center island in his kitchen and pausing to explain that they had a Barbeque
earlier. There were still trays and containers of food on the stove and on the counter
behind him. El continued to recount his recent struggles, explaining that the alleged
fight was just a blow up between his girlfriend and him that “got pretty heated at
times.” He admits that it seemed to go on and on and by the end of the evening,
she was gone and he was exhausted. He says that he went to bed and was
awakened by a persistent banging at the front door of his Palmdale, CA home. It
was the police following up on a call that they had received alleging assault on his
girlfriend. El says that he remembers thinking “Oh this is great,” as he was arrested
and booked. But that was only the beginning of his legal woes. Once in the system,
the state found several prior offenses, and failure to appear charges that El had yet
to address in court. El laughs, I knew that I was going to have some time to cool my
heals.


http://www.the9smag.com/sept07.pdf

Thank you!!!!! Thank you for clearing that up! Aint nobody playing with this freakin thread.....Nobody is doing malicious gossip! El is so down to earth it is pitiful.....My niece met El in her apt building when she moved from Boston and he was cool as a fan. I am a BIG Debarge FAN! I am just a straight shooter I don't sugar coat nothing! El is straight hood and it's all good with me! Now I just found out Monique and his divorce is final, and she knows about the molestation and incest that goes on in that Debarge family. When their divorce was final she stated that she NO LONGER will lets the kids around El's family! I can't blame Monique PROTECT YOUR BABIES!!! El love's women that is just him, and he had another women when he was with Tracey the first wife. When things go sour El don't see the point in hanging around...Uhhh NEXT! This suspposed to be a thread to discuss the Debarges well hell let's do just that. I ordered the Kept Ones book...can't wait for it to arrive!!!

That book will heal a lotta hurting people that are going through the same thing!





Now I hope you aren't trying to say I WAS SAYING YOU WAS SPREADING MALICIOUS GOSSIP ABOUT EL because I wasn't saying that. When I said Yall aint playing with this Debarge thread I meant how long this thread has got!!! Keep doing your thang Scriptgirl!! I see you!!! cool
Reply #273 posted 05/16/09 9:16pm

scriptgirl

Thank you-I plan to keep updating the thread and bringing the latest on the clan, so keep the faith!
"Lack of home training crosses all boundaries."
Reply #274 posted 05/18/09 12:21am

scriptgirl

Rare Chico vids-his full 1987 soul train appearance


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Reply #275 posted 05/18/09 2:43am

Ottensen

DesireeNevermind said:

Fridayfoster said:




He is skinny isn't he? I bet he could eat some food though.Most skinny folks do.



Skinny dudes have big schlongs too. Nature has a sense of humor don't she?


Why is that? hmmm I notice that a skinny dude with bow legs is an even more lethal combination. lurking

I heard a Babyface interview on one of the syndicated radio drive shows once (I can't remember if it was Foxx, Tom Joyner, or Steve Harvey), but he said the groupie scenes around Debarge when they were famous was off the charts. One of my girlfriends heard that and the first thing she said is "Some of those Debarge brothers must be bowlegged like a moth***** smoker..."

I almost died evillol
Reply #276 posted 05/18/09 10:37am

DesireeNevermind

Ottensen said:

DesireeNevermind said:




Skinny dudes have big schlongs too. Nature has a sense of humor don't she?


Why is that? hmmm I notice that a skinny dude with bow legs is an even more lethal combination. lurking

I heard a Babyface interview on one of the syndicated radio drive shows once (I can't remember if it was Foxx, Tom Joyner, or Steve Harvey), but he said the groupie scenes around Debarge when they were famous was off the charts. One of my girlfriends heard that and the first thing she said is "Some of those Debarge brothers must be bowlegged like a moth***** smoker..."

I almost died evillol


Alls I can say is nature has a way of compensating so that reproduction continues or that the particular individual thrives in the world thus allowing the species to overall survive. Now a skinny dude might not get any play b/c he is not seen as masculine and strong and therefore able to produce offspring. Natures compensates him by giving him a bick member and he becomes more appealing to the opposite sex and breeding commences. Kinda like ugly girls with big tits/ass. Or blind people with really good hearing. Or that brilliant Stephen Hawkins dude and his debilitating (sp) disease. Whatever negative thing Nature gave you...best believe she gave you something positive to balance it out.

I take that back....whatever negative thing the nature gave you...God gave you something positive to balance it out. I say that cuz nature is a result of certain DNA coming together...but the DNA won't come together unless the hosts make certain choices and I often think those choices are influenced by otherworldly entities. I digress...CARRY ON
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Reply #277 posted 05/18/09 10:53am

scriptgirl

Hey, can we get back on topic? This thread is not about members size, but rather Debarge. Thanks.
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"Lack of home training crosses all boundaries."
Reply #278 posted 05/18/09 11:26am

DesireeNevermind

scriptgirl said:

Hey, can we get back on topic? This thread is not about members size, but rather Debarge. Thanks.
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but....we were talking about El Debarge's size boxed biggrin
Reply #279 posted 05/18/09 11:46am

DesireeNevermind

this thread is a monster and I love it. most of it anywayz. the sad stuff breaks my heart but their stories must be told.


been listening to that Debarge child's new song and its okay but perfect for the bubble gum teens just fresh off their JoJo high. How many kids does James have? Is he currently married? Is he clean off the drugs? I wonder if he would ever consider counseling or touring the nation to speak on the evils of drugs to the youth.
Reply #280 posted 05/18/09 12:07pm

scriptgirl

James has 4 kids. Not sure if he is married still. I do think he is clean and he knows that you need to take sobriety day by day. James does minister from time to time.

I am not fond of Kristinia's music either, esp as she has a lovely voice. But such are the times we live in. Music is shit.
"Lack of home training crosses all boundaries."
Reply #281 posted 05/18/09 12:11pm

DesireeNevermind

scriptgirl said:

James has 4 kids. Not sure if he is married still. I do think he is clean and he knows that you need to take sobriety day by day. James does minister from time to time.

I am not fond of Kristinia's music either, esp as she has a lovely voice. But such are the times we live in. Music is shit.



nod nod

Are all his kids by the same woman?
Reply #282 posted 05/18/09 1:00pm

scriptgirl

Don't know about that.
"Lack of home training crosses all boundaries."
Reply #283 posted 05/18/09 1:08pm

DesireeNevermind

how many kids Chico got?
Reply #284 posted 05/18/09 1:18pm

scriptgirl

Chico has 5 kids-4 by his ex wife.If you have any more questions about how many kids each Debarge has go to their mother's website. You can find out the answers there
"Lack of home training crosses all boundaries."
Reply #285 posted 05/18/09 1:20pm

DesireeNevermind

link please?


goodness gracious they are prolific breeders.
Reply #286 posted 05/18/09 1:32pm

scriptgirl

I don't have the link-as my boss would say, google is your friend.
"Lack of home training crosses all boundaries."
Reply #287 posted 05/18/09 2:30pm

DesireeNevermind

oh alright.

why does your boss say that? confuse
Reply #288 posted 05/18/09 4:47pm

Fridayfoster

DesireeNevermind said:

scriptgirl said:

Hey, can we get back on topic? This thread is not about members size, but rather Debarge. Thanks.
[Edited 5/18/09 10:53am]



but....we were talking about El Debarge's size boxed biggrin



You'r being naughty wink !!!!!
Reply #289 posted 05/18/09 4:48pm

Fridayfoster

DesireeNevermind said:

link please?


goodness gracious they are prolific breeders.




I think its MommaDebarge.com
Reply #290 posted 05/18/09 11:35pm

scriptgirl

I wonder whose idea it was to have Bobby join Debarge after El and Bunny left. I mean why not ask Tommy or the baby brother, Darrell?
"Lack of home training crosses all boundaries."
Reply #291 posted 05/19/09 11:46am

DesireeNevermind

Fridayfoster said:

DesireeNevermind said:




but....we were talking about El Debarge's size boxed biggrin



You'r being naughty wink !!!!!



Always!
Reply #292 posted 05/19/09 1:45pm

Chic35

BarackNRolla said:

Chic35 said:


Thank you!!!!! Thank you for clearing that up! Aint nobody playing with this freakin thread.....Nobody is doing malicious gossip! El is so down to earth it is pitiful.....My niece met El in her apt building when she moved from Boston and he was cool as a fan. I am a BIG Debarge FAN! I am just a straight shooter I don't sugar coat nothing! El is straight hood and it's all good with me! Now I just found out Monique and his divorce is final, and she knows about the molestation and incest that goes on in that Debarge family. When their divorce was final she stated that she NO LONGER will lets the kids around El's family! I can't blame Monique PROTECT YOUR BABIES!!! El love's women that is just him, and he had another women when he was with Tracey the first wife. When things go sour El don't see the point in hanging around...Uhhh NEXT! This suspposed to be a thread to discuss the Debarges well hell let's do just that. I ordered the Kept Ones book...can't wait for it to arrive!!!

That book will heal a lotta hurting people that are going through the same thing!





Now I hope you aren't trying to say I WAS SAYING YOU WAS SPREADING MALICIOUS GOSSIP ABOUT EL because I wasn't saying that. When I said Yall aint playing with this Debarge thread I meant how long this thread has got!!! Keep doing your thang Scriptgirl!! I see you!!! cool

Oh Im cool Im just glad you supplied the link. Mama D said that was the issue of what broke El and Monique up for good. Chico was indeed turned out in prison or before. What straight man you know looks this fruity in a video? Im not saying he is totally gay but you be the judge...

Here's the video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_qppfB-cuRE He roots for both teams and he likes trans-sexuals as well! I don't have anything against a gay or bi man but an in the closet... I don't like em. Some women are cool with DL men. If you see this and still kick it with Chico then that is on you ladies!!! Chico is known to hug and kiss the lady fans in person. I don't believe El is gay at all!!!! El and Bunny are my favorite Debarges, James is nice looking but weird to me. I'd still attend one of Chico's concerts as well. It is what it is. wink I thought that was Vanity in the video but it's not. The song sucks but Kissme Serious and Talk to me was blowing up the charts back then.
The message you are about to hear are not meant for transmission. Should ONLY be accessed in the privacy of your mind. Words are so intense so if you dare to listen.Take off your clothes and meet me between the lines. wildsign
Reply #293 posted 05/19/09 2:05pm

Chic35

DesireeNevermind said:

scriptgirl said:

Hey, can we get back on topic? This thread is not about members size, but rather Debarge. Thanks.
[Edited 5/18/09 10:53am]



but....we were talking about El Debarge's size boxed biggrin

This thread might not be about their sizes but what kind of fans would we be if we didn't NOTICE IT! He's so skinny but his member is recognizable. Mother nature is a good girl sometimes...
The message you are about to hear are not meant for transmission. Should ONLY be accessed in the privacy of your mind. Words are so intense so if you dare to listen.Take off your clothes and meet me between the lines. wildsign
Reply #294 posted 05/19/09 2:13pm

scriptgirl

First of all, everyone looked like that in the 80s and secondly, unless you have proof of Chico's bi or gay tendencies, keep your nasty, slanderous comments to yourself. THAT IS NOT WHAT THIS THREAD IS ABOUT!
"Lack of home training crosses all boundaries."
Reply #295 posted 05/19/09 3:50pm

TD3

From El's self titled 1st solo album the only other cut I like off this ablum is a Burt Bacharach written tune "Love Always".


Reply #296 posted 05/19/09 4:04pm

Chic35

scriptgirl said:

First of all, everyone looked like that in the 80s and secondly, unless you have proof of Chico's bi or gay tendencies, keep your nasty, slanderous comments to yourself. THAT IS NOT WHAT THIS THREAD IS ABOUT!

You are in denial...this Debarge thread shouldn't be this serious to you...Take a chill pill, you get offended at EVERYBODY that makes a comment or states their opinion. You don't have proof of anything either and ain't supplying links but wanna go off on everybody else WHO YOU THINK DOES NOT KNOW THE DEBARGES PERSONALLY!

You don't even like most of their music and your comments are just as negative as some of ours. Why do you have this thread up? You are not a Debarge fan yourself that I know for sure....You don't like none of Switch's, Bunny or El's music let alone Chico's. You want everybody to walk on eggshells. Keep in mind the Debarges are everywhere and you don't know who knows who. You are just obsessed by their looks and don't really care about the truth. Can you supply a link that let's us know that Duckie died of crack? Im still waiting on that one... wink
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The message you are about to hear are not meant for transmission. Should ONLY be accessed in the privacy of your mind. Words are so intense so if you dare to listen.Take off your clothes and meet me between the lines. wildsign
Reply #297 posted 05/19/09 4:12pm

scriptgirl

I am a Debarge fan and I try to concentrate on the POSITIVE. I don't go into sordid details about their alleged sexual history and I am not on this thread always bringing up slanderous details. That is all you ever do. And your opinion of their alleged sexual proclivities is just that-it is not fact, just rumors you are spreading. I did not create this thread, the mods did and if you would get your facts straight FOR ONCE, you would know that!

Chico said that about Duckie in an article in Sister to Sister in 1998. I don't have a link for it. I have the article.
"Lack of home training crosses all boundaries."
Reply #298 posted 05/19/09 4:23pm

DesireeNevermind

sigh
Reply #299 posted 05/19/09 4:37pm

scriptgirl

TD3, I have never liked that song. It was played too much on soft rock stations.
"Lack of home training crosses all boundaries."
Reply #300 posted 05/19/09 4:38pm

Chic35

scriptgirl said:

I am a Debarge fan and I try to concentrate on the POSITIVE. I don't go into sordid details about their alleged sexual history and I am not on this thread always bringing up slanderous details. That is all you ever do. And your opinion of their alleged sexual proclivities is just that-it is not fact, just rumors you are spreading. I did not create this thread, the mods did and if you would get your facts straight FOR ONCE, you would know that!

Chico said that about Duckie in an article in Sister to Sister in 1998. I don't have a link for it. I have the article.


Whatever you hate most of their music and I took the time to read the threads from 07 when it was first created and you are on here with your nasty behavior badgering everybody that makes a comment you disagree with. You also have posted under another name to keep this thread going until somebody called you out for being obsessed with the Debarges! Flimdenoir or whateva name you used back then.

You just told somebody else that google is your friend. That is what you are doing as well and you can't prove your INFO to be the TRUTH either. If Chico was that close to Duckie I don't believe he would put her on blast about overdosing of Crack, and he's a heroine and crack addict himself. Do you history on the Debarges and stop sugar coating everything!

You don't know who I am or if I even know the Debarges or not. Do your research before you keep blasting other peoples comments. You see the other person supplied a link about El and his girlfriend gettin into it in the 9's magazine. You need to start supplying links since you constantly badger everybody else!!!!
The message you are about to hear are not meant for transmission. Should ONLY be accessed in the privacy of your mind. Words are so intense so if you dare to listen.Take off your clothes and meet me between the lines. wildsign
Reply #301 posted 05/19/09 4:40pm

DesireeNevermind

pray please don't let this thread get locked. please please
Reply #302 posted 05/19/09 4:45pm

scriptgirl

The Debarge Family in younger days

Robert Sr

Etterlene


Bunny

El


James

Chico

[Edited 5/19/09 23:55pm]
"Lack of home training crosses all boundaries."
Reply #303 posted 05/19/09 4:47pm

DesireeNevermind

how old is she there? she looks like a kid. that's the mother right?
Reply #304 posted 05/19/09 4:53pm

scriptgirl

I do NOT hate the music of the Debarges. THere are certain songs I don't like.CHico said what he said as a fact. He was not putting Duckie on blast. You are the one who si putting people on blast, by your slandrerous comments. If you knew Debarge, you would not put their personal business in the street like that. A good person or friend of the family wouldn't do that.

Desiree, all the information I have I give you. If I don't state anything else, that is because I don't know anything more info. You can always find out information for yourself.

James sings this track

[Edited 5/19/09 16:54pm]
"Lack of home training crosses all boundaries."
Reply #305 posted 05/19/09 4:54pm

Chic35

DesireeNevermind said:

link please?


goodness gracious they are prolific breeders.

She ain't got no links to give go read all her past notes...Saying Monique and Tracey are related and that Monique and El wasn't really married. It will be confusing cause she's listed under the Filmdenoir name...Go back and read these message threads. Her attitude is terrible to people.
The message you are about to hear are not meant for transmission. Should ONLY be accessed in the privacy of your mind. Words are so intense so if you dare to listen.Take off your clothes and meet me between the lines. wildsign
Reply #306 posted 05/19/09 4:56pm

scriptgirl

It is not "ain't got" it is "does not have".
I said Monique and Tracy looked enough alike to be related. That is all I said.
This thread was NOT created in 2007. It was created a few months ago. GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT.
[Edited 5/19/09 16:57pm]
[Edited 5/19/09 17:01pm]
"Lack of home training crosses all boundaries."
Reply #307 posted 05/19/09 5:14pm

Chic35

scriptgirl said:

It is not "ain't got" it is "does not have". Your grammar skills are awful.
I said Monique and Tracy looked enough alike to be related. That is all I said.
This thread was NOT created in 2007. It was created a few months ago. GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT.
[Edited 5/19/09 16:57pm]

You said EL and his whole family is off you dislike Mama Debarge calling the whole clan crazy. Somebody checked you back in the threads about being gossipy now you trying to call me out...and everybody else! Trying to tell us what we can't or can talk about that shit is crazy. Family members are the main ones to put your business in the street. Just go back and read the comments she's making about the Debarges they are negative as hell. You sugarcoats everything but the pictures are great. She eats shit and breaths the Debarges and that is NOT healthy! That is mentally unstable. Im convince you are an Obsessed wanna be fan...The Debarges are not role models by a longshot and they should be portrayed in the true light and not just gray areas. They jacked up their life with drugs and you are in denial. The Debarges need to help themselves. They don't get my sympathy card at all. No matter how many pics you post the fact still remains they are TRUE JUNKIES! Family member or not...ya heard! I will not uphold anybody in their wrong.
The message you are about to hear are not meant for transmission. Should ONLY be accessed in the privacy of your mind. Words are so intense so if you dare to listen.Take off your clothes and meet me between the lines. wildsign
Reply #308 posted 05/19/09 5:42pm

TD3

You know what ladies? We need to take it down... way down a couple of notches. It ain't all that serious, it's amazing we've made to DeBarge Part 2 and only recently we've run into drama. Why is this? As I've mentioned before our org Moderator has already admonish a certain someone for this sillyness?

With all the great material supplied by scriptgirl and shango, lets enjoy, debate even about the music and SPEAK of what we know. Lord knows many in the DeBarge Family have shared their joys, heartaches, and mistakes of late.


Peace.
Reply #309 posted 05/19/09 6:54pm

DesireeNevermind

I have sympathy for them because of their rough childhood be the child abuse rumors true or untrue. There was some pain, heartache and broken family drama and couple that with the high pressures and expectations of the entertainment industry, its no wonder they had drug problems. they were just kids so i can have sympathy for them. but the unwillingness to kick the drug habit and all those associated with drugs is really fucked up. so my sympathy only goes so far.

i do love the pics in this thread and the back stories. I stopped feeling Debarge after The Last Dragon move. Can't remember why I fell off the wagon. I missed a lot of great music it seems. Thx for the infor ev1.
grouphug
Reply #310 posted 05/19/09 7:34pm

TD3

Picked up this album a couple of weeks ago. I didn't dislike it but I wasn't a crazy about "FREE" album when Chico dropped it. After hearing several cuts on Pandora, I've changed my mind, I like it.


Reply #311 posted 05/19/09 7:38pm

scriptgirl

I don't think they are unwilling to kick drugs. they are addicts. There IS a difference.
"Lack of home training crosses all boundaries."
Reply #312 posted 05/19/09 8:14pm

TD3

scriptgirl said:

I don't think they are unwilling to kick drugs. they are addicts. There IS a difference.



nod

I too use to think the same thing, damn if you are tired and it's F-in-up your life just quite! Sadly, it's not that easy after speaking with doctors who deal with addiction and how the brain is rewired. It takes many attempts and even so some people aren't able to walk away.

Years ago: I have a friend who's a recovering alcoholic, at the time he was two years into his sobriety, I ordered a beer took 3 swallows and didn't want anymore. He shook his head, I felt guilty and was about apologize for drinking infront of him. He said, "No, that's not the issue; I marvel at your ablity to enjoy a drink and leave it. I've never not finished off a glass, a bottle, a 6/12 pack of beer, a fifth or a gallon of whiskey. However much I had infront of me I would drink it up even though everytime I'd lie to myself and say I'm only going to have a shot, a beer, or a glass of wine."
Reply #313 posted 05/19/09 8:43pm

Timmy84

DesireeNevermind said:

how old is she there? she looks like a kid. that's the mother right?


Yeah, she looks about 15, 16 in that photo.
Reply #314 posted 05/19/09 10:41pm

OldTeenager

They are some addicts looking for their next fix. They fell off so bad nobody was checking for them until Unsung aired their dirty laundry out. Why argue over some addicts that enjoy drugs. Drugs are not easy to kick but at least try to enter the door of a rehab. Just because you have a bad childhood you don't have to turn to drugs. After a while nobody will care about the Debarges story and it will die down.
I am not sure what's wrong, but it's probably your fault!
Reply #315 posted 05/20/09 6:17am

Shango

I'll just add this. Bunny and Randy have stated in Unsung that some family-members are in denial, so with that said, it's not the complete family who is avoiding their problems and troubles of the past and present.

No, a bad childhood doesn't have to be a reason to turn to drugs, but in this case they did, with Bobby as one of the first and the tragic passing which the family had to face in his final hours. Bobby had a very lost soul, as was told in Unsung. He sometimes wandered the streets for days.
Every person in the world reacts differently to situations of their past, so there's no rule how one should act due to the way how they were raised.

And as for their staying-power. A few classic songs of Debarge have left a strong mark in the musicbiz and have inspired a number of recent artists, so yeah, that's why their place in the music history is relevant. And there's a new genereration of talent in the family which is a good thing.

We as outsiders can assume, judge, talk hood till we're blue in the face. Bottomline is that it's up to the family to eventually face and solve their problems, and there's nothing we can or should do about it. People are not perfect and make mistakes. Let's just hope for the best in their future , or for any family in the world facing deep problems, because punching them any further in the ground is a waste of energy.
Reply #316 posted 05/20/09 8:02pm

TD3

Bless you Shango.


Less hope U-Tube & Warner Music Group can resolve their issues soon so we can upload El's solo work he did with WMG.

I love both of these songs. music

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k88_-e_UX9Q


I had to change the "Cross My Heart" because the first video didn't have the the begining of the song.... 40 secounds that I love. It's this little things that don't appear to a big deal that makes El a gifted arranger.
[Edited 5/20/09 21:58pm]
Reply #317 posted 05/21/09 2:29am

Shango

TD3 said:

Bless you Shango.

cool Keep on keepin on. Great songs you posted.
Reply #318 posted 05/21/09 3:21am

Chic35

Shango said:

I'll just add this. Bunny and Randy have stated in Unsung that some family-members are in denial, so with that said, it's not the complete family who is avoiding their problems and troubles of the past and present.

No, a bad childhood doesn't have to be a reason to turn to drugs, but in this case they did, with Bobby as one of the first and the tragic passing which the family had to face in his final hours. Bobby had a very lost soul, as was told in Unsung. He sometimes wandered the streets for days.
Every person in the world reacts differently to situations of their past, so there's no rule how one should act due to the way how they were raised.

And as for their staying-power. A few classic songs of Debarge have left a strong mark in the musicbiz and have inspired a number of recent artists, so yeah, that's why their place in the music history is relevant. And there's a new genereration of talent in the family which is a good thing.

We as outsiders can assume, judge, talk hood till we're blue in the face. Bottomline is that it's up to the family to eventually face and solve their problems, and there's nothing we can or should do about it. People are not perfect and make mistakes. Let's just hope for the best in their future , or for any family in the world facing deep problems, because punching them any further in the ground is a waste of energy.

Bunny was strung out so bad on drugs CPS took her kids, she just recently got them back now that she is sober.
The message you are about to hear are not meant for transmission. Should ONLY be accessed in the privacy of your mind. Words are so intense so if you dare to listen.Take off your clothes and meet me between the lines. wildsign
Reply #319 posted 05/21/09 3:23am

daingermouz2020

Chic35 said:

Shango said:

I'll just add this. Bunny and Randy have stated in Unsung that some family-members are in denial, so with that said, it's not the complete family who is avoiding their problems and troubles of the past and present.

No, a bad childhood doesn't have to be a reason to turn to drugs, but in this case they did, with Bobby as one of the first and the tragic passing which the family had to face in his final hours. Bobby had a very lost soul, as was told in Unsung. He sometimes wandered the streets for days.
Every person in the world reacts differently to situations of their past, so there's no rule how one should act due to the way how they were raised.

And as for their staying-power. A few classic songs of Debarge have left a strong mark in the musicbiz and have inspired a number of recent artists, so yeah, that's why their place in the music history is relevant. And there's a new genereration of talent in the family which is a good thing.








We as outsiders can assume, judge, talk hood till we're blue in the face. Bottomline is that it's up to the family to eventually face and solve their problems, and there's nothing we can or should do about it. People are not perfect and make mistakes. Let's just hope for the best in their future , or for any family in the world facing deep problems, because punching them any further in the ground is a waste of energy.

Bunny was strung out so bad on drugs CPS took her kids, she just recently got them back now that she is sober.




sorry about that post above but wow I never heard that one
[Edited 5/21/09 3:25am]
Reply #320 posted 05/21/09 5:31am

destinyc1

Chic35 said:

Shango said:

I'll just add this. Bunny and Randy have stated in Unsung that some family-members are in denial, so with that said, it's not the complete family who is avoiding their problems and troubles of the past and present.

No, a bad childhood doesn't have to be a reason to turn to drugs, but in this case they did, with Bobby as one of the first and the tragic passing which the family had to face in his final hours. Bobby had a very lost soul, as was told in Unsung. He sometimes wandered the streets for days.
Every person in the world reacts differently to situations of their past, so there's no rule how one should act due to the way how they were raised.

And as for their staying-power. A few classic songs of Debarge have left a strong mark in the musicbiz and have inspired a number of recent artists, so yeah, that's why their place in the music history is relevant. And there's a new genereration of talent in the family which is a good thing.

We as outsiders can assume, judge, talk hood till we're blue in the face. Bottomline is that it's up to the family to eventually face and solve their problems, and there's nothing we can or should do about it. People are not perfect and make mistakes. Let's just hope for the best in their future , or for any family in the world facing deep problems, because punching them any further in the ground is a waste of energy.

Bunny was strung out so bad on drugs CPS took her kids, she just recently got them back now that she is sober.
Reply #321 posted 05/21/09 7:48am

scriptgirl

Bunny's kids are adults who all have children, so that story is not true-how on earth would an adult mother just regain custody of her ADULT kids?
[Edited 5/21/09 7:49am]
"Lack of home training crosses all boundaries."
Reply #322 posted 05/21/09 8:41am

TD3

scriptgirl said:

Bunny's kids are adults who all have children, so that story is not true-how on earth would an adult mother just regain custody of her ADULT kids?


Yea, Bunny's a grandmother now isn't she? confused
Reply #323 posted 05/21/09 9:34am

DesireeNevermind

confuse
Reply #324 posted 05/21/09 10:14am

scriptgirl

2 of Bunny's daughters-they don't look like kids to me.
"Lack of home training crosses all boundaries."
Reply #325 posted 05/21/09 10:34am

DesireeNevermind

well shit i wish Boris Kdojoe and Bill Gates would co-adopt me. biggrin
Reply #326 posted 05/21/09 5:25pm

June7

Moderator

moderator

[Let's keep the posts somewhat believable, please. Rumor posts are not cool, as some people are trying to use this thread as a informational tool to find out what the family's been up to. Stop the BS posts, and stick to the facts, please. rolleyes - June7]
Respect is never promised
Love ain't free
Trust is earned
And it hurts to be alone
This is what I've learned

From the original song, "What I've Learned" by Tomás
Reply #327 posted 05/21/09 7:48pm

OldTeenager

Hey,Bunny has a 10-11 year old son that is not grown named Daniel and another daughter not listed in that pic above. Keep in mind Bunny was strung out bad on drugs just like the other Debarges, it could be some truth to that!
I am not sure what's wrong, but it's probably your fault!
Reply #328 posted 05/21/09 7:55pm

scriptgirl

Note what it says above about rumor posts!
"Lack of home training crosses all boundaries."
Reply #329 posted 05/22/09 4:20am

marzellus

Chic35 said:

scriptgirl said:

I am a Debarge fan and I try to concentrate on the POSITIVE. I don't go into sordid details about their alleged sexual history and I am not on this thread always bringing up slanderous details. That is all you ever do. And your opinion of their alleged sexual proclivities is just that-it is not fact, just rumors you are spreading. I did not create this thread, the mods did and if you would get your facts straight FOR ONCE, you would know that!

Chico said that about Duckie in an article in Sister to Sister in 1998. I don't have a link for it. I have the article.


Whatever you hate most of their music and I took the time to read the threads from 07 when it was first created and you are on here with your nasty behavior badgering everybody that makes a comment you disagree with. You also have posted under another name to keep this thread going until somebody called you out for being obsessed with the Debarges! Flimdenoir or whateva name you used back then.

You just told somebody else that google is your friend. That is what you are doing as well and you can't prove your INFO to be the TRUTH either. If Chico was that close to Duckie I don't believe he would put her on blast about overdosing of Crack, and he's a heroine and crack addict himself. Do you history on the Debarges and stop sugar coating everything!

You don't know who I am or if I even know the Debarges or not. Do your research before you keep blasting other peoples comments. You see the other person supplied a link about El and his girlfriend gettin into it in the 9's magazine. You need to start supplying links since you constantly badger everybody else!!!!
Reply #330 posted 05/22/09 4:21am

marzellus

marzellus said:

Chic35 said:


Scriptgirl is that true are you film de noir?

Whatever you hate most of their music and I took the time to read the threads from 07 when it was first created and you are on here with your nasty behavior badgering everybody that makes a comment you disagree with. You also have posted under another name to keep this thread going until somebody called you out for being obsessed with the Debarges! Flimdenoir or whateva name you used back then.

You just told somebody else that google is your friend. That is what you are doing as well and you can't prove your INFO to be the TRUTH either. If Chico was that close to Duckie I don't believe he would put her on blast about overdosing of Crack, and he's a heroine and crack addict himself. Do you history on the Debarges and stop sugar coating everything!

You don't know who I am or if I even know the Debarges or not. Do your research before you keep blasting other peoples comments. You see the other person supplied a link about El and his girlfriend gettin into it in the 9's magazine. You need to start supplying links since you constantly badger everybody else!!!!
Reply #331 posted 05/22/09 4:49am

marzellus

Hi scriptgirl
Why do you gotta keep putting up most these pics up here from DBnet? And how come you keep saying negative things about DeBarges? I agree with Chic35. You are bashing the debarges and then you like them. Which one is it? Pick one? DO u like the DeBarges? Or just beg for information about chico to people? And why do you gotta keep bringing up they are addicts? Get over the fact that you think you know everything because in reality you get half ur info from DBNET! And the other half you fall asleep on your on BS! Get straight with your sideways brain! Quit posting pics you think you took personally..quit bashing Mama D...quit talking crap about the whole family that YOU WISH to know! They don't want your negative words spreaded everywhere. So get your facts and stories straight!
Quit talking about people who aren't alive because they can't defend them selfs..and who cares about their sexual prefs..maybe you have a personal issue with your self. Get ur mind checked.

And about you saying Kristinia's music is ...Get Real KC! Her music is blowing up the charts! U wish u were her. I bet you can't sing worth nothing Storyspice!
Reply #332 posted 05/22/09 6:29am

Shango

Can we stay on topic here ? This personal attacking & bashing on the thread is leading nowhere with all these agenda-issues.
Keep it positive, peace.
Reply #333 posted 05/22/09 10:43am

DesireeNevermind

zzz




sun




pc




confuse



faint
Reply #334 posted 05/22/09 10:59pm

Ottensen

DesireeNevermind said:

zzz




sun




pc




confuse



faint




This is almost as entertaining (or as tragic) as watching what goes back and forth in Associated Artists

popcorn
Reply #335 posted 05/23/09 2:42am

Shango

daingermouz2020 said:


I remember reading years ago in a issue of "Right On" that Bobby's voice will no longer be the focal point on Switch albums. This is prior to me finding out that he had gone solo. I think this was around the time they released Switch V.There was a supposed recorded album for which I read was shelved (would love to hear it) Later it was announced he was to sign or was signed with Larry Blackmons Atlanta Artist label. But of course nothing ever materialized.

Yeah, too bad that no released work ever evolved from that collaboration. Back then, Bobby was also announced in Billboard as a staff producer for Atlanta Artists :



It could've been an interesting project. Cameo used to have another great falsetto-singer in their band, the late Wayne Cooper, and through their career they recorded a number of tracks with high-pitched voices.
I feel they had serious plans with Bobby which never flourished unfortunately. They even brought up Bobby's name in their song "This Life Is Not For Me" which describes their daily careerlife and seems to be
a warning for those who might not be able to handle a career as an artist. At least, that's the vibe which i got from the lyrics :

CD http://www.imeem.com/fuzebox/music/5Jn0uxJp/this-life-is-not-for-me/

This life is not for me ... no ... no !
As far as i can see ... no ... no !
This job is all i see ... oh ... no ! (uhmmm hmmm)
There must be more for me ... yaaayyy-aaahhhh !

Don't get with my baby, is what i need to do
But i start in this place with a ( ? jive on the ... ? )
I need to party, ( ? to suck it in my blood ? )
With Bobby, Billy, Sue and the rest of the crew
Don't tell me your problems, i got some for myself
Cuz who's gonna love ya if you don't love yourself
That footstompin' rhythm, will take care of my ills
Cuz there's much more to life than being iiilll !

This life is not for free ... no ... no !
You'll turn into a freak ... oh ... no !
This ain't the place to be ... no ... no ! (uhmmm hmmm)
As far as i can see .... Yaaayyy-aaahhhh !

Taking care of business, is the only way we know
Cuz no matter what the weather we say : "on with the show !"
It ain't no secret, to the magic that we make
When we look through the crowd and see the smiles on their face
The ? is electric, cuz we really take charge
When we come on right after Bobby Debarge

That footstompin' rhythm, to take care of my ills
Cuz there's much more to life than being iiilll !

This life is not for me ... no ... no !
As far as i can see ... no ... no !
This job is all i see .... oh ... no !
There must be more for me ... yaaayyy-aaahhh !


( ps, i couldn't hear some words clearly when i wrote them down, lol )
[Edited 5/23/09 2:59am]
Reply #336 posted 05/23/09 3:49pm

TD3

Shango said:




It could've been an interesting project. Cameo used to have another great falsetto-singer in their band, the late Wayne Cooper, and through their career they recorded a number of tracks with high-pitched voices.
I feel they had serious plans with Bobby which never flourished unfortunately. They even brought up Bobby's name in their song "This Life Is Not For Me" which describes their daily careerlife and seems to be
a warning for those who might not be able to handle a career as an artist. At least, that's the vibe which i got from the lyrics :

CD http://www.imeem.com/fuzebox/music/5Jn0uxJp/this-life-is-not-for-me/

This life is not for me ... no ... no !
As far as i can see ... no ... no !
This job is all i see ... oh ... no ! (uhmmm hmmm)
There must be more for me ... yaaayyy-aaahhhh !

Don't get with my baby, is what i need to do
But i start in this place with a ( ? jive on the ... ? )
I need to party, ( ? to suck it in my blood ? )
With Bobby, Billy, Sue and the rest of the crew
Don't tell me your problems, i got some for myself
Cuz who's gonna love ya if you don't love yourself
That footstompin' rhythm, will take care of my ills
Cuz there's much more to life than being iiilll !

This life is not for free ... no ... no !
You'll turn into a freak ... oh ... no !
This ain't the place to be ... no ... no ! (uhmmm hmmm)
As far as i can see .... Yaaayyy-aaahhhh !

Taking care of business, is the only way we know
Cuz no matter what the weather we say : "on with the show !"
It ain't no secret, to the magic that we make
When we look through the crowd and see the smiles on their face
The ? is electric, cuz we really take charge
When we come on right after Bobby Debarge

That footstompin' rhythm, to take care of my ills
Cuz there's much more to life than being iiilll !

This life is not for me ... no ... no !
As far as i can see ... no ... no !
This job is all i see .... oh ... no !
There must be more for me ... yaaayyy-aaahhh !


( ps, i couldn't hear some words clearly when i wrote them down, lol )
[Edited 5/23/09 2:59am]


You learn somethin everyday. Wow, Bobby and Cameo, what might have been. hmmm

cool

Oh, Did I say thanks? Nope. Thank You.
[Edited 5/23/09 22:48pm]
Reply #337 posted 05/23/09 10:14pm

Timmy84

Shango said:

daingermouz2020 said:


I remember reading years ago in a issue of "Right On" that Bobby's voice will no longer be the focal point on Switch albums. This is prior to me finding out that he had gone solo. I think this was around the time they released Switch V.There was a supposed recorded album for which I read was shelved (would love to hear it) Later it was announced he was to sign or was signed with Larry Blackmons Atlanta Artist label. But of course nothing ever materialized.

Yeah, too bad that no released work ever evolved from that collaboration. Back then, Bobby was also announced in Billboard as a staff producer for Atlanta Artists :



It could've been an interesting project. Cameo used to have another great falsetto-singer in their band, the late Wayne Cooper, and through their career they recorded a number of tracks with high-pitched voices.
I feel they had serious plans with Bobby which never flourished unfortunately. They even brought up Bobby's name in their song "This Life Is Not For Me" which describes their daily careerlife and seems to be
a warning for those who might not be able to handle a career as an artist. At least, that's the vibe which i got from the lyrics :

CD http://www.imeem.com/fuzebox/music/5Jn0uxJp/this-life-is-not-for-me/

This life is not for me ... no ... no !
As far as i can see ... no ... no !
This job is all i see ... oh ... no ! (uhmmm hmmm)
There must be more for me ... yaaayyy-aaahhhh !

Don't get with my baby, is what i need to do
But i start in this place with a ( ? jive on the ... ? )
I need to party, ( ? to suck it in my blood ? )
With Bobby, Billy, Sue and the rest of the crew
Don't tell me your problems, i got some for myself
Cuz who's gonna love ya if you don't love yourself
That footstompin' rhythm, will take care of my ills
Cuz there's much more to life than being iiilll !

This life is not for free ... no ... no !
You'll turn into a freak ... oh ... no !
This ain't the place to be ... no ... no ! (uhmmm hmmm)
As far as i can see .... Yaaayyy-aaahhhh !

Taking care of business, is the only way we know
Cuz no matter what the weather we say : "on with the show !"
It ain't no secret, to the magic that we make
When we look through the crowd and see the smiles on their face
The ? is electric, cuz we really take charge
When we come on right after Bobby Debarge

That footstompin' rhythm, to take care of my ills
Cuz there's much more to life than being iiilll !

This life is not for me ... no ... no !
As far as i can see ... no ... no !
This job is all i see .... oh ... no !
There must be more for me ... yaaayyy-aaahhh !


( ps, i couldn't hear some words clearly when i wrote them down, lol )
[Edited 5/23/09 2:59am]


That's very interesting indeed. Thanks for this!
Reply #338 posted 05/24/09 1:36am

daingermouz

Timmy84 said:

Shango said:


Yeah, too bad that no released work ever evolved from that collaboration. Back then, Bobby was also announced in Billboard as a staff producer for Atlanta Artists :



It could've been an interesting project. Cameo used to have another great falsetto-singer in their band, the late Wayne Cooper, and through their career they recorded a number of tracks with high-pitched voices.
I feel they had serious plans with Bobby which never flourished unfortunately. They even brought up Bobby's name in their song "This Life Is Not For Me" which describes their daily careerlife and seems to be
a warning for those who might not be able to handle a career as an artist. At least, that's the vibe which i got from the lyrics :

CD http://www.imeem.com/fuzebox/music/5Jn0uxJp/this-life-is-not-for-me/

This life is not for me ... no ... no !
As far as i can see ... no ... no !
This job is all i see ... oh ... no ! (uhmmm hmmm)
There must be more for me ... yaaayyy-aaahhhh !

Don't get with my baby, is what i need to do
But i start in this place with a ( ? jive on the ... ? )
I need to party, ( ? to suck it in my blood ? )
With Bobby, Billy, Sue and the rest of the crew
Don't tell me your problems, i got some for myself
Cuz who's gonna love ya if you don't love yourself
That footstompin' rhythm, will take care of my ills
Cuz there's much more to life than being iiilll !

This life is not for free ... no ... no !
You'll turn into a freak ... oh ... no !
This ain't the place to be ... no ... no ! (uhmmm hmmm)
As far as i can see .... Yaaayyy-aaahhhh !

Taking care of business, is the only way we know
Cuz no matter what the weather we say : "on with the show !"
It ain't no secret, to the magic that we make
When we look through the crowd and see the smiles on their face
The ? is electric, cuz we really take charge
When we come on right after Bobby Debarge

That footstompin' rhythm, to take care of my ills
Cuz there's much more to life than being iiilll !

This life is not for me ... no ... no !
As far as i can see ... no ... no !
This job is all i see .... oh ... no !
There must be more for me ... yaaayyy-aaahhh !


( ps, i couldn't hear some words clearly when i wrote them down, lol )
[Edited 5/23/09 2:59am]


That's very interesting indeed. Thanks for this!



Wow! I've never even heard this song before. interesting.
Reply #339 posted 05/24/09 1:47am

daingermouz

Word has it Wayne Cooper was going to be produced by Larry Blacknon (read it in not "Right On!" or Rock N Soul but that other popular mag that was out at the time)

Has anyone ever heard Wayne's non falsetto voice? If so,what song?


After listening to the above track I'm curious about what possibly could have been. Bobby Debarge singing with more of a hard funky souund (cameo, slave ) somebody's gotta have a copy of that unrealeased lp that motown shelved. I just know it (as well as any tracks wayne had recorded) I feel it all still exist. I haven't given up hope yet. somebody's gonna come through with the goods sooner or later. lol
Reply #340 posted 05/24/09 9:47am

Shango

TD3TD3 said:


You learn somethin everyday. Wow, Bobby and Cameo, what might have been. hmmm

cool

Oh, Did I say thanks? Nope. Thank You.

Timmy84 said:


That's very interesting indeed. Thanks for this!

daingermouz said:


Wow! I've never even heard this song before. interesting.

thumbs up! My pleasure yall exclaim





daingermouz said:

Word has it Wayne Cooper was going to be produced by Larry Blacknon (read it in not "Right On!" or Rock N Soul but that other popular mag that was out at the time)

Yeah, these mags have great info. Other zines like "Black Beat" and "Black Stars" were also a good reference."Ebony" and "Jet" had some cool articles any now and then imho.
And "Right On!" had some sub-mags like "Class" and "Focus" which sometimes featured a complete issue about one particular artist or subjct in entertainment.
Recently i found a "Focus"-issue about the upcoming video-era in the early 80's.

daingermouz said:


Has anyone ever heard Wayne's non falsetto voice? If so,what song?

I might have to do a re-check in which Cameo-song or co-production he sings with a lower voice. My complete collection is temporarily stored somewhere else because my appartment is getting a make-over, lol.

daingermouz said:


After listening to the above track I'm curious about what possibly could have been. Bobby Debarge singing with more of a hard funky souund (cameo, slave ) somebody's gotta have a copy of that unrealeased lp that motown shelved. I just know it (as well as any tracks wayne had recorded) I feel it all still exist. I haven't given up hope yet. somebody's gonna come through with the goods sooner or later. lol

Yeah, makes me wonder too how that would've sounded. Cameo seemed very impressed with Bobby's talent. The above track is from their album "Style", released around
1983 and the first official album on Atlanta Artists. What me surprised also is that the Billboard-issue describes that Atlanta Artists already excisted in 1980.

I have an online-listlink bookmarked with Motown-releases, including unreleased projects. Bobby's album is unfortunately not listed in there, but hopefully something about it will see the light of day.
You knever know. Through recent years, unreleased work from a number of artists has finally made it for the public. From my memory i've heard vault-sessions from Angela Bofill, Phyllis Hyman,
Lou Rawls,EW&F, The O'Jays, various P-Funk artists, etc.

I bolded the unreleased albums, though i also made some corrections in there of released albums which were noted as "unreleased". I might've overseen a few more :

TAMLA MOTOWN part 2

Catalogue # / Artist / Title / Release Date

911 / Bonnie Pointer / Bonnie Pointer / 10.1978
912 / Commodores / Greatest Hits / 10.1978
913 / T. Boy Ross / Changes / 2.1979
914 / The 5th Dimension / High On Sunshine / 1.1979
915 / Billy Preston & Syreeta / Music From The Motion Picture Fast Break / 3.1979
916 / Finished Touch / Finished Touch / NR
917 / Mandre / M3000 / 2.1979
918 / Platinum Hook / It's Time / 31979
919 / Cuba Gooding / Love Dancer / 4.1979
920 / Scherrie & Susaye / Partners / 10.1979
921 / Various / Pops We Love You ... The Album / 4.1979
922 / Patrick Gammon / Don't Touch Me / 5.1979
923 / Diana Ross / The Boss / 5.1979
924 / Dr Strut / Dr Strut / 5.1979
925 / Billy Preston / Late At Night / 7.1979
926 / Commodores / Midnight Magic / 7.1979
927 / Mary Wilson / Mary Wilson / 8.1979
928 / Jermaine Jackson / Let's Get Serious / 3.198
929 / Bonnie Pointer / Bonnie Pointer / 11.1979
930 / Cook County / Pinball Playboy (Playboy Theme) / 11.1979
931 / Dr Strut / Struttin' / 2.1980
932 / Flight / Excursion Beyond / 2.1980
933 / Grover Washington,Jr. / Skylarkin' / 2.1980
934 / The Planets / The Planets / 2.1980
935 / ? / ? / ?
936 / Diana Ross / Diana / 5.1980
937 / Various / 20/20- Twenty No. 1 Hits From Twenty Years At Motown / 3.1980
938 / Ozone / Walk On / 4.1980
939 / Commodores / Heroes / 6.1980
940 / Grover Washington,Jr. / Baddest / 8.1980
941 / Billy Preston / The Way I Am / 2.1981
942 / Black Russian / Black Russian / 5.1980
943 / Platinum Hook / Ecstasy Paradise / NR
944 / Michal Urbaniak / Serenade For The City / 8.1980
945 / Ahmad Jamal / Night Song / 10.1980
946 / The Dazz Band / Invitation To Love / 10.1980
947 / Various / It's My Turn (f/s.) / 10.1980
948 / Jermaine Jackson / Jermaine / 11.1980
949 / Various / Loving Couples (f/s.) / 11.1980
950 / Ozone / Jump On It / 1.1981
951 / Diana Ross / To Love Again / 2.1981
952 / Jermaine Jackson / I Like Your Style / 8.1981
953 / Jose Feliciano / Jose Feliciano / 10.1981
954 / Commodores / Anthology / NR
955 / Commodores / In The Pocket / 6.1981
956 / Michael Jackson / One Day In Your Life / 3.1981
957 / Dazz Band / Let The Music Play / 5.1981
958 / Billy Preston & Syreeta / Billy Preston & Syreeta / 7.1981
959 / Lovesmith / Lovesmith / 8.1981
960 / Diana Ross / All The Great Hits / 10.1981
961 / Grover Washington,Jr. / Anthology / 9.1981
962 / Ozone / Send It / 9.1981
6000M / Bettye Lavette / Tell Me A Lie / 1.1982
6001T / Smokey Robinson / Yes, It's You Lady / 1.1982
6002T / Stevie Wonder / Stevie Wonder's Original Musiquarium / 5.1982
6003G / Nolen & Crossley / Ambience / 2.1982
6004M / Dazz Band / Keep It Live / 2.1982
6005G / Rick James / Throwin' Down / 5.1982
6006G / High lnergy / So Right / 4.1982
6007M / Lionel Richie / Lionel Richie / 9.1982 (CD: 2.1984)
6008G / The Temptations / Reunion / 4.1982
6009M / Charlene / I've Never Been To Me / 3.1982
6010M / Jean Carn(e) / Trust Me / 5.1982
6011M / Ozone / Li'l Suzy / 7.1982
6012G / DeBarge All This Love / 7.1982
6013M / Lawanda Page / Watch It Sucker / NR
6014M / Regal Funkharmonic Orchestra / Strung Out On Motown / 7.1982
6015T / Gene Van Buren / What's Your Pleasure / 12.1982
6016 / ? / ? / ?
6017M / Jermaine Jackson / Let Me Tickle Your Fancy / 7.1982
6018L / Jose Feliciano / Escenas De Amor (Love Scenes) / 7.1982
6019M / O.C. Smith / Love Changes / 5.1982
6020M / Billy Preston / Pressin' On / 8.1982
6021L / Pedro Montero / Amor Secreto / 8.1982
6022M / Bobby Nunn / Second To Nunn / 8.1982
6023G / Bobby Militello / Blow (Rick James Presents) / 10.1982
6024M / Charlene / The Sky Is The Limit / 12.1982
6025 / ? / ? / ?
6026M / Bill Cosby / Himself / 11.1982 (CD: 5.1986)
6027M / Charlene / Used To Be / 10.1982
6028M / Commodores / All The Great Hits / 11.1982
6029G / Monalisa Young / Knife / 11.1983
6030T / Smokey Robinson / Touch The Sky / 1.1983
6031M / Dazz Band / On The One / 1.1983
6032G / The Temptations / Surface Thrills / 2.1983
6033M / Stephanie Mills / Love Has Lifted Me / 11.1982
6034M / Thelma Houston / Reachin' All Around / 11.1982
6035M / Jose Feliciano / Romance In The Night / 3.1983
6036M / Finis Henderson / Finis / 4.1983
6037M / Ozone / Glasses / 3.1983
6038M / Kagny & the Dirty Rats / Kagny And The Dirty Rats / 3.1983
6039T / Syreeta / The Spell / 4.1983
604OG / Mary Jane Girls / Mary Jane Girls / 4.1983
6041G / High Inergy / Groove Patrol / 4.1983
6042G / Stone City Band / Out Of The Shadows : Meet The Stone City Band / 7.1983
6043G / Rick James / Cold Blooded / 8.1983
6044M / Commodores / Anthology / 5.1983
6045M / Michael Lovesmith / Can Make It Happen / 6.1983
6046C / Wolf & Wolf / Wolf And Wolf / 5.1984
6047T / Stevie Wonder / People Move, Human Plays / NR
6048M / Various / The Motown Story (box set) / 5.1983
6049M / Diana Ross / Anthology / 5.1983
6050T / Smokey Robinson / Untitied / NR
6051M / Bobby Nunn / Private Party / 9.1983
6052M / Rockwell / Somebody's Watching Me / 1.1984
6053M / Junior Walker / Blow The House Down / 8.1983
6054M / Commodores / 13 / 9.1983
6055L / Jose Feliciano / Me Enamore / NR
6056C / Kidd Glove / Killer Instinct / 2.1984
6057G / Dennis Edwards / Don't Look Any Further / 1.1984
6058M / Marvin Gaye / Every Great Motown Hit : 15 Spectacular Performances / 9.1983
6059M / Lionel Richie / Can't Slow Down / 10.1983 (CD: 2.1984)
606OC / Jakata / Light The Night / 8.1984
6061G / DeBarge / In A Special Way / 9.1983
6062M / Various / The Big Chill / 9.1983
6063C / The Coyote Sisters / The Coyote Sisters / 7.1984
6064T / Smokey Robinson / Blame It On Love And All The Great Hits / 8.1983
6065C / Various / Get Crazy (f/s.) / 8.1983
6066M / Four Tops / Back Where I Belong / 10.1983
6067C / Tiggi Clay / Tiggi Clay / 1.1984
6068M / Commodores / Compact Command Performances : 14 Greatest Hits / 2.1984
6069T / Marvin Gaye / Compact Command Performances : 15 Greatest Hits / 2.1984
6070M / Michael Jackson & Jackson 5 / Compact Command Performances : 18 Greatest Hits / 2.1984
6071T / Smokey Robinson & The Miracles / Compact Command Performances : 18 Greatest Hits / 2.1984
6072M / Diana Ross / Compact Command Performances : 14 Greatest Hits / 2.1984
6073M / Diana Ross & The Supremes / Compact Command Performances: 20 Greatest Hits / 2.1984
6074M / Commodores / Machine Gun + Movin' On / 9.1983
6075M / Four Tops / Four Tops + Reach Out / 9.1983
6076M / Marvin Gaye / Live! + Let's Get It On / 9.1983
6077M / Michael Jackson / Got To Be There + Ben / 9.1983
6078M / Rick James / Come Get It + Fire It Up / 9.1983
6079M / The Temptations / Meet The Temptations + Masterpiece / 9.1983
6080M / Grover Washington,Jr. / Mister Magic + Feels So Good / 9.1983
6081M / Stevie Wonder / Signed Seated Delivered + My Cherie Amour / 9.1983
6082M / Diana Ross / Touch Me In The Morning + Live ! At Caesar's Palace / 9.1983
6083M / Marvin Gaye & Tammi Terrell / You're All I Need + United / 9.1983
6084M / Dazz Band / Joystick / 11.1983
6085G / The Temptations / Back To Basics / 10.1983
6086M / Various Christine (f/s.) / 11.1983
6087G / Teena Marie / You Got The Love / NR
6088M / Bobby King / Love In The Fire / 3.1984
6089T / Gene Van Buren / Love Never Dies / NR
6090M / Charlene / Hit And Run Lover / 7.1984
6091M / Various / Making Trax.. The Great Instrumentals / 3.1984
6092G / Mary Jane Girls / Only Four You / 2.1985 (CD. 9.1985)
6093M / Michael Lovesmith / Diamond In The Raw / 4.1984
6094M / Various / More Songs From The Original Soundtrack : 'The Big Chill' / 4.1984
6095G / Rick James / Reflections Of Rick James / 8.1984 (CD: 9.1984)
6096M / Koko-Pop / Koko-Pop / 5.1984
6097C / Duke Jupiter / White Knuckle Ride / 4.1984
6098T / Smokey Robinson / Essar / 5.1984
6099M / Michael Jackson & Jackson 5 / 14 Greatest Hits (pic. disc) / 5.1984
6100M / Michael Jackson & Jackson 5 / 16 Greatest Hits / 5.1984
6101M / Michael Jackson / Farewell My Summer Love / 5.1984
6102M / Vanity / Wild Animal / 8.1984
6103M / Sam Harris / Sam Harris / 8.1984 (CD: 2.1985)
6104M / Kagny / Mind Control / NR
6105M / Diana Ross / All The Great Love Songs / 9.1984
6106M / Four Tops / Compact Command Performances (19 Greatest Hits) / 9.1984
6107M / Commodores / All The Great Love Songs / 9.1984
6108M / Stevie Wonder / Woman In Red (f/s.) / 8.1984 (CD: 12.1984)
6109M / Gladys Knight & The Pips / Compact Command Performances: 17 Greatest Hits / 9.1984
6110M / Various / Motown Grammy R&B Performances Of The 1960s And 1970s / 9.1984
6111M / Al Green / Compact Command Performances: 14 Greatest Hits / 8.1984
6112M / Phyllis St. James / Ain't No Tumin'Back / 8.1984
6113T / Stevie Wonder / Original Musiquarium Vol.1 and Vol.2 / 1.1985
6114 / ? / ? / ?
6115T / Stevie Wonder / Songs In The Key Of Life Vol.1 and Vol.2 / 12.1984
6116 / ? / ? / ?
6117M / Dazz Band / Jukebox / 9.1984
6118M / Bobby Nunn / Fresh / NR
6119G / The Temptations / Truly For You / 10.1984
6120M / Various / The Big Chill / 11.1984
6121M / Thomas McClary / Thomas McClary / 11.1984
6122M / Rockwell / Captured / 1.1985
6123G / DeBarge / Rhythm Of The Night / 2.1985 (CD: 4.1985)
6124M / Commodores / Nightshift / 1.1985 (CD: 4.1985)
6125G / The Temptations / Compact Command Performances: 17 Greatest Hits / 3.1985
6126M / Grover Washington,Jr. / At His Best / 3.1985
6127T / Stevie Wonder / Stevie Wonder's Journey Through The Secret Life Of Plants / 3.1985
6128M / Various / Berry Gordy's 'The Last Dragon'(fls.) / 2.1985
6129 / ? / ? / ?
6130M / Four Tops / Magic / 5.1985
6131M / Various / The Flamingo Kid (f/s.) / 1.1985
6132M / Various / 25# 1 Hits From Twenty-Five Years / 4.1985
6133M / Diana Ross / Lady Sings The Blues (f/s.) / 4.1985
6134T / Stevie Wonder / In Square Circle / 9.1985 (CD: 10.1985)
6135G / Rick James / Glow / 4.1985
6136M / The Emotions / If I Only Knew / 3.1985
6137M / Various / 20 Greatest Songs In Motown History / 8.1985
6138M / Various / The Composer Series - The Greatest Songs Written By Holland-Dozier-Holiand / 9.1985
6139M / Various / The Composer Series - The Greatest Songs Written By Smokey Robinson / 8.1985
6140M / Various / The Composer Series - 7he Greatest Songs Written By Ashford & Simpson / 8.1985
6141M / Maureen Steele / Nature Of The Beast / 4.1985
6142M / Willie Hutch / Making A Game Out Of Love / 6.1985
6143M / Lional Richie / The Composer Various Artist : Great Love Songs With The Commodores And Diana Ross / 8.1985
6144T / Stevie Wonder / Love Songs - 20 Classic Hits / 8.1985
6145M / Michael Lovesmith / Rhymes Of Passion / 6.1985
6156M / Alfie / That Look / 1.1986
6147G / Val Young / Seduction / 7.1985
6148G / Dennis Edwards / Coolin' Out / 6.1985
6149M / Dazz Band / Hot Spot / 7.1985
6150M / Lushus Daim & Pretty Vain / More Than You Can Handle / 9.1985
6151T / Stevie Wonder / Talking Book / 11.1985
6152T / Stevie Wonder / Innervisions / 11.1985
6153T / Marvin Gaye / Marvin Gaye & His Women - Classic Duets / 10.1985
6154M / Nick Jameson / A Crowd Of One / NR
6155M / Koko-Pop / Secrets Of Lonely Boys / 8.1985
6156T / Smokey Robinson / Smoke Signals / 1.1986 (CD: 3.1986)
6157M / Pal / Truth For The Moment
6158M / Lionel Richie / Dancing On The Ceiling / 8.1986 (CD: 8.1986)
6159 / Various / Good Feeling Music of The Big Chill Generation Vol.1 / 12.1985
6160 / Various / Good Feeling Music of The Big Chill Generation Vol.2 / 12.1985
6161 / Various / Good Feeling Music of The Big Chill Generation Vol.3 / 12.1985
6162M / Duke Jupiter / The Line Of Your Fire / 9.1985
6163M / Warp 9 / Fade In, Fade Out / 1.1986
6164G / The Temptations / Touch Me / 11.1985
6165M / Sam Harris / Sam-I-Am / 1.1986
6166M / Troy Johnson / Getting A Grip On Love / 3.1986
6167M / Vanity / Skin On Skin / 2.1986
6168M / Guinn / Guinn / 3.1986
6169T / The Marvelettes / Compact Command Performances: 23 Greatest Hits / 3.1986
617OG / Martha Reeves & The Vandellas / Compact Command Performances: 24 Greatest Hits / 3.1986
6171M / Mary Wells / Compact Command Performances: 22 Greatest Hits / 5.1986
6172T / Marvin Gaye / Motown Remembers Marvin Gaye / 3.1986
6173G / DeBarge Greatest Hits / 5.1986
6174M / Various / Motown's Biggest Pop Hits / 5.1986
6175T / Stevie Wonder / Original Musiquarium Vol.1
6176T / Stevie Wonder / Original Musiquarium Vol.2
6177M / Various / Endless Love - 15 Of Motown's Greatest Love Songs / 4.1986
6178M / Rockwell / The Genie / 5.1986
6179M / Fizzy Owick / Fizzy Qwick / 6.1986
6180M / Various / A Fine Mess (f/s.) / 7.1986
6181G / El DeBarge / El DeBarge / 5.1986 (CD: 7.1986)
6182G / Teena Marie / Compact Command Performances / 9.1986
6183M / Various / 20 Hard To Find Motown Classics Vol. 1 / 5.1986
6184M / Various / 20 Hard To Find Motown Classics Vol. 2 / 5.1986
6185G / Rick James / The Flag / 5.1986 (CD: 5.1986)
6186M / Various / Pippin (Original Cast) / 6.1986
6187M / Various / Guys And Dolls (Original Cast) / NR
6188M / Four Tops / Anthology / 10.1986
6189G / The Temptations / Anthology / 10.1986
6190M / Various / The Motown Story - The First 25 Years / 11.1986
6191T / Marvin Gaye / Live ! At The London Palladium / 10.1986
6192M / Various / You Can't Hurry Love / 8.1986
6193M / Diana Ross & The Supremes / 25th Anniversary / 10.1986
6194M / Jackson 5 / Anthology / 10.1986
6195M / Michael Jackson / Anthology / 10.1986
6196T / Smokey Robinson & The Miracles / Anthology / 10.1986
6197M / Diana Ross / Anthology / 10.1986
6198M / Diana Ross & The Supremes / Anthology / 10.1986
6199T / Marvin Gaye / Anthology / 10.1986
6200M / Gladys Knight & The Pips / Anthology / 10.1986
6201T / Marvin Gaye / Compact Command Performances : Vol. 2 / 9.1986
6202T / Smokey Robinson & The Miracles / Compact Command Performances : Vol.2 / 9.1986
6203M / Jr Walker & The All Stars / Compact Command Performances / 9.1986
6204M / The Temptations / 25th Anniversary / 10.1986
6205T / Stevie Wonder / Hotter Than July / 9.1986
6206M / Jimmy Reed / Compact Command Performances / 9.1986
6207G / The Temptations / To Be Continued / 6.1986 (CD: 12.1986)
6208M / Little Richard / Compact Command Performances / 9.1986
6209M / Jakata / Designs Of The Heart / NR
6210M / Nick Jameson / A Crowd of One / 7.1986
6211M / Four Tops / Hot Nights / NR
6212M / Stacy Lattisaw / Take Me All The Way / 9.1986
6213G / Mary Jane Girls / Conversation / NR
6214M / Chico DeBarge / Chico DeBarge / 9.1986
6215M / Various / Hits From The Legendary Vee-Jay Records / 11.1986
6216G / General Kane / In Full Chill / 10.1986
6217M / Bunny DeBarge / In Love / 1.1987
6218M / Duane Eddy / Compact Command Performances / 1.1987
6219M / Various / 25 Hard-To-Find Motown Classics: Vol.3 / 1.1987
622OG / Dr Martin Luther King / Compact Command Performances (His Greatest Speeches) / 12.1986
6221M / Various / 24 Enduring Classics From The Small Label Era Of Rock Music / NR
6222M / Bruce Willis / The Return Of Bruno / 1.1987 (CD: 1.1987)
6223M / Carrie McDowell / Carrie McDowell / 7.1987
6224M / Blake & Hines / Blake & Hines / 3.1987
6225M / F.G.0. / Give Her What She Wants / NR
6226M / Smokey Robinson / One Heartbeat / 2.1987 (CD: 4.1987)
6227M / Bobby Darin / Live ! At The Desert Inn / 4.1987
6228M / Angela Cola / Turn Up The Beat / NR
6229M / Georgio Sexappeal / 3.1987 (CD: 3.1988)
6230M / Various / Motown Dance Party Vol. 1 / 4.1987
6231M / Various / Motown Dance Party Vol. 2 / 4.1987
6232M / Various / Motown Around The World / 4.1987
6233M / Diana Ross & The Supremes / The Rodgers & Hart Collection / 4.1987
6234M / Garry Glenn / Feels Good To Feel Good / 6.1987 (CD: 9.1987)
6235M / Various / Artists / Music From The Motion Picture Soundtrack Police Acadamy IV 'Citizens On Patrol'/ 3.1987
6236M / Kim O'Leary / Kim O'Leary / NR
6237M / Darryl Duncan / Heaven / 2.1988
6238M / General Kane / Wide Open / 7.1987
6239M / Various Artists / Motown Dance Party '88 / NR
6240M / El DeBarge / Real Love
6241M / Ada Dyer / Meant To Be / 4.1988
6242M / Family Dream / NR
6243M / Superiors / NR
6244M / Wilson Pickett / American Soul Man / 8.1987
6245M / Chris Rea / Dancing With Strangers / 9.1987 (CD: 9.1987)
6246M / Temptations / Together Again / 9.1987 (CD: 9.1987)
6247M / Stacy Lattisaw / Personal Attention / 2.1988 (CD: 2.1988)
6248M / Stevie Wonder / Characters / 11.1987 (CD: 11.1987)
6249M / Chico DeBarge / Kiss Serious / 9.1987
6250M / Michael Jackson / The Original Soul Of... / 11.1987 (CD: 11.1987)
6251M / Brownmark / Just Like That / 2.1988 (CD: 2.1988)
6252M / Magic Lady / Magic Lady / 4.1988 (CD: 4.1988)

http://www.geocities.com/Vienna/1071/motown2.htm
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Reply #341 posted 05/25/09 5:52am

TD3

I think it's time to hear another Switch/Bobby song. music


From Switch fourth album: "Reaching for Tomorrow"



"Reaching for Tommorrow" was Switch second album release in 1980, the first being "This Is My Dream".
Reply #342 posted 05/25/09 6:16am

RosesRred

TD3 said:

I think it's time to hear another Switch/Bobby song. music


From Switch fourth album: "Reaching for Tomorrow"



"Reaching for Tommorrow" was Switch second album release in 1980, the first being "This Is My Dream".


lol how appropriate
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*never give Up.♥
Reply #343 posted 05/25/09 7:12pm

BarackNRolla

scriptgirl said:

Tommy and his first wife, Yolanda or "Duckie"

Bobby and his wife, Terri

Janet and James

El and his second wife, Tracey


El's current and maybe ex wife, Monique



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I read somewhere that El's second wife has her own magazine. Don't know if she still has it or not. But the Monarch magazine did a profile on her in the spring of 2008. I was comparing the pics of her here and on Mama D's site and I believe this is her. She still looks the same. But she has shorter hair and plus she's older now. She's a beautiful lady. It's good to see african americans having their own business. Good for her. Here's a link to the profile.
Enjoy!!

http://www.monarchmagazine.com/issue6_spring2008/profile_ferguson.php
Reply #344 posted 05/26/09 12:50pm

DesireeNevermind

I hope Monique stays around. He needs a ride or die chick. For better or for worse kind of love.
Reply #345 posted 05/26/09 2:02pm

BarackNRolla

DesireeNevermind said:

I hope Monique stays around. He needs a ride or die chick. For better or for worse kind of love.



What was wrong with the second wife? I just believe she wasn't staying around and putting up with his foolishness!!! Tracey seems like someone who is educated and who has her own!!!
Reply #346 posted 05/26/09 2:20pm

DesireeNevermind

BarackNRolla said:

DesireeNevermind said:

I hope Monique stays around. He needs a ride or die chick. For better or for worse kind of love.



What was wrong with the second wife? I just believe she wasn't staying around and putting up with his foolishness!!! Tracey seems like someone who is educated and who has her own!!!



Shoot I don't even know what was wrong with first wifey but somebody has to save this man with the healing powers of love. I honestly don't think he feels loved and therefore doesn't give a shit about himself and kills his pain with drugs. sad
Reply #347 posted 05/27/09 10:56am

TD3

RosesRred said:

TD3 said:

I think it's time to hear another Switch/Bobby song. music


From Switch fourth album: "Reaching for Tomorrow"


"Reaching for Tommorrow" was Switch second album release in 1980, the first being "This Is My Dream".


lol how appropriate



shrug


giggle

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Over the Memorial Day Holiday I bought Debarge's "All This Love" album in pristine condition out of a ritzy women's boutique of all place, $4.00 including tax. My other album had seen better days. cool
Reply #348 posted 05/27/09 1:13pm

OldTeenager

marzellus said:

Hi scriptgirl
Why do you gotta keep putting up most these pics up here from DBnet? And how come you keep saying negative things about DeBarges? I agree with Chic35. You are bashing the debarges and then you like them. Which one is it? Pick one? DO u like the DeBarges? Or just beg for information about chico to people? And why do you gotta keep bringing up they are addicts? Get over the fact that you think you know everything because in reality you get half ur info from DBNET! And the other half you fall asleep on your on BS! Get straight with your sideways brain! Quit posting pics you think you took personally..quit bashing Mama D...quit talking crap about the whole family that YOU WISH to know! They don't want your negative words spreaded everywhere. So get your facts and stories straight!
Quit talking about people who aren't alive because they can't defend them selfs..and who cares about their sexual prefs..maybe you have a personal issue with your self. Get ur mind checked.

And about you saying Kristinia's music is ...Get Real KC! Her music is blowing up the charts! U wish u were her. I bet you can't sing worth nothing Storyspice!

Speaking of Debarge Network those pictures listed all through this thread are from their site I just went and checked. Here is a video of EL singing a song Listen Up by Quincy Jones collaborated ensemble, in the early 90's... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UlWzt5kENTE I have never seen El this underweight! He comes in at 3:38, 4:24 and 6:10 Don Cornelious is talking to him, he looks weak and feeble. That voice is still on point though. I gasped when i saw this.
I am not sure what's wrong, but it's probably your fault!
Reply #349 posted 05/27/09 3:17pm

DesireeNevermind

Damn Shame sad
Reply #350 posted 05/29/09 6:32pm

Riverpoet31

Is this debarge-shit still going on?

It shows too many people here follow the superficial, blatant route.

Debarge is a bunch of VERY, very, very mediocre soul-wannabees. The fact that half of them went into prison, and their music is considered insignificant R&B dribble tells enough.

it is plain shit.
Reply #351 posted 05/29/09 6:53pm

TD3

From Bobby's last album: "It's Not Over"

Reply #352 posted 05/31/09 3:07pm

Shango

I found this great wintershot at a yahoo-group of DeBarge :



You can see Tommy DeBarge, Philip Ingram, Gregory Williams and a few (for me) unidentified cats here who formed under different groupnames such as First Class and Hot Ice.
Not shure in what order those changes of groupnames went, since they also called themselves White Heat, and some were in the group Smash as well, lol.


Promo photo :



Billboard appearances :







Reply #353 posted 06/03/09 9:39am

TD3

The promo pic Shando uploaded of Switch was sold as a poster at concerts... mine didn't last long because all of my girlfriends drulled all over it. lol

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qnVHyeO8Snw&feature=related

Reply #354 posted 06/03/09 11:02am

RosesRred

When is EL coming out?


When is Chico dropping his CD?
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*never give Up.♥
Reply #355 posted 06/03/09 12:07pm

TD3

RosesRred said:

When is EL coming out?


When is Chico dropping his CD?


As your probably know El's due to be released this mounth the exact date, I don't know.

Chico - Addiction June 2009 album, I think on the 25th.
Reply #356 posted 06/03/09 1:37pm

OldTeenager

Marvin Gaye and El Debarge have a lot in common. Marvin's dad was a cross dresser weirdo. El's dad was a sicko and abusive. Drugs destroyed both of their lives. Marvin was teased because of his last name, and because his dad dressed in drag. El was teased for being bi-racial.

Marvin and El laid hands on women. Motown ripped them off very badly. They both had financial troubles. They both had strong christian beliefs. They both had unstable mental issues stemming from their childhood. El was once running from the law. Marvin ran from the IRS to Europe.

El and Marvin were ladies men. They both made great music. On the DBnet the Debarges are the second coming over there.
I am not sure what's wrong, but it's probably your fault!
Reply #357 posted 06/03/09 2:33pm

DesireeNevermind

i actually just dig El, Bobby and Bunny as far as the music goes. As far as physical attraction, i used to want to be part of an El and Chico sandwhich. but with that drug and abuse history...no thanks, not now, not ever. confused

I hope the grandkids have much success though. It will make their parents proud. nod
Reply #358 posted 06/03/09 4:28pm

TD3

DesireeNevermind said:

i actually just dig El, Bobby and Bunny as far as the music goes. As far as physical attraction, i used to want to be part of an El and Chico sandwhich. but with that drug and abuse history...no thanks, not now, not ever. confused

I hope the grandkids have much success though. It will make their parents proud. nod


falloff

I here ya, some peoples issues are theres to see there way through. (No other way....) I would still like to hear from El, what goes on in his head as far as arranging, producing and writing song(s) goes. I'm not all that interested in picking at peoples wounds for entertainment sake.
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Reply #359 posted 06/03/09 4:41pm

Fridayfoster

DesireeNevermind said:

i actually just dig El, Bobby and Bunny as far as the music goes. As far as physical attraction, i used to want to be part of an El and Chico sandwhich. but with that drug and abuse history...no thanks, not now, not ever. confused

I hope the grandkids have much success though. It will make their parents proud. nod



Girl,you and me both.I thought I was gonna be a Mrs.Debarge one day.I even got mad at Janet for hooking up with James.After hearing what they went through and after what El and Chico went through.I said they can have that shit.On the real.I still love their music though.I think Chico music became better after he was release from prison."Long Time No See" will forever be a classic.
Reply #360 posted 06/03/09 10:41pm

Chic35

http://mokellyreport.blogspot.com/2008/01/breaking-el-debarge-threatens-mokelly.html
El made a threat to Mo'Kelly...
El was still on probation when he emailed that threat! I bet Mo'Kelly would be scared as hell if he ran into the Debarges, it's a clan of them and they usually run in packs!
The message you are about to hear are not meant for transmission. Should ONLY be accessed in the privacy of your mind. Words are so intense so if you dare to listen.Take off your clothes and meet me between the lines. wildsign
Reply #361 posted 06/03/09 11:55pm

scriptgirl

That's a fake for christ sake. Mo'Kelly admitted it in a later column and anyone can see that is a fake. Mo'Kelly is a satirist and a comic. I cannot believe anyone would be so gullible as to believe that is real. hmm
"Lack of home training crosses all boundaries."
Reply #362 posted 06/04/09 6:11am

BarackNRolla

scriptgirl said:

That's a fake for christ sake. Mo'Kelly admitted it in a later column and anyone can see that is a fake. Mo'Kelly is a satirist and a comic. I cannot believe anyone would be so gullible as to believe that is real. hmm




I had read that before. I didn't know if it was fake or not!!! But anyways, I hear El is coming home soon. I hope he get himself together for sake of his children.
Happy Born Day to you!!!!! Wow, I can't believe he's 48!!! I used to AND still groove to the DeBarge and his music(his solo stuff). Happy 48th!!!
Reply #363 posted 06/04/09 1:13pm

Chic35

That threat is not fake, that email was valid and verified by relatives. Yeah El will be out soon, like I said in the a previous message. He's getting out for good behavior, and I hope he can get off drugs and make a better life for himself. I guess "Time will reveal" if he is sincere. Some fans are just in denial!

Happy Birthday El, I hope somebody do an intervention for this man. It's such a waste of talent!
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I love this song by Switch. Bobby really sang this one hitting those high notes!
They don't make love songs anymore like this. sad
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[Edited 6/4/09 14:54pm]
The message you are about to hear are not meant for transmission. Should ONLY be accessed in the privacy of your mind. Words are so intense so if you dare to listen.Take off your clothes and meet me between the lines. wildsign
Reply #364 posted 06/04/09 6:10pm

DesireeNevermind

Mo shouldn't be poking fun in any way shape or form at El. I wish El would kick Mo's ass. neutral
Reply #365 posted 06/04/09 7:31pm

Timmy84

Chic35 said:

That threat is not fake, that email was valid and verified by relatives. Yeah El will be out soon, like I said in the a previous message. He's getting out for good behavior, and I hope he can get off drugs and make a better life for himself. I guess "Time will reveal" if he is sincere. Some fans are just in denial!

Happy Birthday El, I hope somebody do an intervention for this man. It's such a waste of talent!
[Edited 6/4/09 13:20pm]


I love this song by Switch. Bobby really sang this one hitting those high notes!
They don't make love songs anymore like this. sad
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[Edited 6/4/09 14:54pm]


You think that's high?

whistle http://www.imeem.com/artists/switch/music/RH75OV56/switch-you-and-i/ whistle
Reply #366 posted 06/06/09 5:48pm

NMuzakNSoul

Chico came by the Brian Mcknight late night show and definitely showcased his talent.

http://www.brianmcknightshow.com/Article.asp?id=1356185&spid=33024

URL: http://prince.org/msg/8/304188?&pg=10

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