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Thread started 12/16/08 8:33am

Thumparello

Did Morris Day rip this man off?

This is one of those groups that are hard to hate...they where original, funky and kept the party going.


Old school original group in 80's at their height
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New group 2007 w/ new Coconuts
http://www.youtube.com/wa...re=related eek

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Reply #1 posted 12/16/08 8:37am

StarMon

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cool, but nope.

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I'm jus' another point of view..
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Reply #2 posted 12/16/08 8:38am

Graycap23

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Edicotte says.....no

The TRUTH.......only exist in 1 form.
The TRUTH.
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Reply #3 posted 12/16/08 10:17am

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Thanks Thump,

That was some good morning entertainment and a good notice on your part. The similarities are undeniable but I don't think we'll ever know for sure if or how much Morris was influenced by August Darnell (Kid Creole).

Hey wait a minute... wasn't Morris' character in Purple Rain called "The Kid?"

It's not as simple as saying this guy copied that guy. Both these guys stage personas are expressions of an arechetype which I'll loosely call "The Playa."

archetype ar·che·type (är'kĭ-tīp')n.

1. An original model or type after which other similar things are patterned.

2. In Jungian psychology, an inherited pattern of thought or symbolic image that is derived from the past collective experience of humanity and is present in the unconscious of the individual. Also called imago.

Like so many lesser knowns from the jazz era before them the slick suited cool playa has been an archetype. Cab Calloway was probably the most well known playa archetype from before but there were many other cool dudes out there.

Kid Creole and Morris Day are carrying on the tradition but camping it up and doing it in a way that pokes a little fun at themselves while simultaneously saying it's cool to be cool.

Since Jaime Starr wink was the architect of the Time's sound and stage concept he very well may have given Morris the framework for his onstage character.

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Reply #4 posted 12/16/08 1:10pm

SoulAlive

Prince was a huge fan of Kid Creole.I always thought that the Morris Day persona/image was inspired by Kid Creole.

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Reply #5 posted 12/16/08 1:24pm

Graycap23

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Morris is Prince's alter ego. Yesssss.

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Reply #6 posted 12/16/08 1:38pm

StarMon

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disbelief

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Reply #7 posted 12/16/08 2:06pm

NDRU

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DakutiusMaximus said:



Hey wait a minute... wasn't Morris' character in Purple Rain called "The Kid?"



Prince's character.

He might have been influenced, but they say Prince was showing the Time videos of Muhammed Ali to get them in the spirit of being badass. I think like all Prince creations, the Time & Morris come from a lot of places (including of course what Morris himself brought to the character)

But I see Kid Creole as being much less crude, much less old school pimp, a bit more classy, and less obnoxious & cocky.

"If you have opinions you can't see"

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Reply #8 posted 12/16/08 5:23pm

tricky2

Survey say's.....53 points. That was the number one answer! biggrin
Absou(freakin)lutely!!

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Reply #9 posted 12/16/08 7:54pm

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Rip off August Darnell? Nahhh....copied? Naaahhhh. Similarities? Not really. Too TOTALLY different styles. August Darnell....wow....I remember when "I'm A Wonderful Thing" came out! Elbow Bones and The Racketeers, Kid Creole and The Coconuts, Machine and Dr. Buzzard's Original Savannah Band....all August Darnell!

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Reply #10 posted 12/16/08 11:56pm

SoulAlive

SteamForest said:

Rip off August Darnell? Nahhh....copied? Naaahhhh. Similarities? Not really. Too TOTALLY different styles. August Darnell....wow....I remember when "I'm A Wonderful Thing" came out! Elbow Bones and The Racketeers, Kid Creole and The Coconuts, Machine and Dr. Buzzard's Original Savannah Band....all August Darnell!

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"I'm A Wonderful Thing,baby" music

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