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Words of Wisdom from Mr. Quincy Jones | |
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Good read and I agree. I will paste it here because people may not like clicking links.
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Seems pretty obvious, but maybe that's the problem.
"Ya see, we're not interested in what you know...but what you are willing to learn. C'mon y'all." | |
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Absolutely Brilliant Post. Quincy is the last of a dying Breed of people who actually GET IT. I can honestly say that I haven't bought an album at least in the past 7 years that actually was Amazing from beginning to End. This is the reason for the downloading problem. Why spend money on crap? "I will touch thee in the softest manner...like Europa in the hands of Santana"
~Prince http://www.imeem.com/bishopsaynomore http://www.youtube.com/bishopsaynomore | |
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But I bet if you look at what songs are most downloaded from Marvin Gaye, it IS the singles from his groundbreaking albums.
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Quincy is so right when it comes to album cover artwork. Of course people will buy the whole album if the price is right, the actual product looks and feels good ( you know, with a good booklet, a nice jewel case with some extra gimmick, nice pictures, lyrics etc.)., but , most of all, the music has to be good, no unnecessary fillers. | |
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He is right. | |
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He's wrong and so is everyone else here (apart from Cinnie). Albums aren't selling because most people never did like albums all the way through. Even if the albums were great, most people probably wouldn't know it because they don't like listening to things they're not already familiar with. People don't have the patience. | |
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midnightmover said: He's wrong and so is everyone else here (apart from Cinnie). Albums aren't selling because most people never did like albums all the way through. Even if the albums were great, most people probably wouldn't know it because they don't like listening to things they're not already familiar with. People don't have the patience.
I personally love albums and don't subscribe to the assumption that the single is necessarily better than the rest of the songs on an album. Sometimes that is true, but I am often interested to know what the rest of the material is. Hell, sometimes the single is merely the most "commercial" song on the album because it fits a certain radio format and doesn't even indicate what the artist is capable of. I sure hope Quincy doesn't think everything should fit a radio format, and I don't think that's what he meant either. | |
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Nicely said, Quincy. "When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all." | |
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Cinnie said: midnightmover said: He's wrong and so is everyone else here (apart from Cinnie). Albums aren't selling because most people never did like albums all the way through. Even if the albums were great, most people probably wouldn't know it because they don't like listening to things they're not already familiar with. People don't have the patience.
I personally love albums and don't subscribe to the assumption that the single is necessarily better than the rest of the songs on an album. Sometimes that is true, but I am often interested to know what the rest of the material is. Hell, sometimes the single is merely the most "commercial" song on the album because it fits a certain radio format and doesn't even indicate what the artist is capable of. I sure hope Quincy doesn't think everything should fit a radio format, and I don't think that's what he meant either. I agree with Quincy AND you guys. I wouldn’t be so reluctant to buy albums if I didn’t think the material outside of the one or two singles were going to be crap. I don’t hesitate with artists I know have a history of quality output. But I also think we bought albums back in the day because we didn’t really have a choice. When 45s of my favorite songs became available, I bought those. Same with cassingles and CD singles. I didn’t necessarily want the whole album. I may not have even liked the artist but I wanted the song or the extended version or remix. However, I definitely enjoyed sitting down with my big ole album and LISTENING to the music, studying the artwork, reading the liner notes, learning about the various songwriters, musicians, instruments, producers and engineers that contributed to the product. The world is so fast today adults don’t have the time, kids don’t have the patience (or interest). And now albums are so long... back in the day there were only 9 - 12 songs to get to learn 2 or 3 of which we already probably knew about. Now you’ve got albums with 17 or 21 tracks! Just because you have the space doesn’t mean you have to fill it and a portion of that may be interludes, reprises, skits, etc. If I wanted a skit I’d turn on the TV! [Edited 10/8/08 10:39am] [Edited 10/8/08 10:40am] coz if you run your mother break a bottle sicker run day boo, I will hunt chu damn | |
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One More Words Of Wisdom:
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midnightmover said: He's wrong and so is everyone else here (apart from Cinnie). Albums aren't selling because most people never did like albums all the way through. Even if the albums were great, most people probably wouldn't know it because they don't like listening to things they're not already familiar with. People don't have the patience.
I'd have to totally disagree. Your opinion may be true for current listeners with short attention spans. When I was coming up, part of the beauty of listening to complete albums were the gems you would find that were not the songs you were already familiar with. tA Tribal Disorder
http://www.soundclick.com...dID=182431 "Ya see, we're not interested in what you know...but what you are willing to learn. C'mon y'all." | |
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love Q but I don't think it would help...I have friends with huge music collections pre-illegal downloads...cassettes, albums the works..post "download" era they don't buy any cd's...even the ones they like. You can thumb through their whole collection There was also a poll that came out last year that said only half of teenagers even bought cd's that year the other half just downloaded it. I really don't know how artist make money for that matter labels. The music biz as we know it is dead! "- Hakeem Olajuwon-The Greatest Center of All Time " | |
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People have long bought singles, it was only when we got rid of the 45 that it started to suffer. Who wants a $5 cd single with a few crappy remixes?
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theAudience said: midnightmover said: He's wrong and so is everyone else here (apart from Cinnie). Albums aren't selling because most people never did like albums all the way through. Even if the albums were great, most people probably wouldn't know it because they don't like listening to things they're not already familiar with. People don't have the patience.
I'd have to totally disagree. Your opinion may be true for current listeners with short attention spans. When I was coming up, part of the beauty of listening to complete albums were the gems you would find that were not the songs you were already familiar with. tA Tribal Disorder
http://www.soundclick.com...dID=182431 I´m definately with you on this, the Audience. "When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all." | |
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theAudience said: Your opinion may be true for current listeners with short attention spans.
I believe that's a huge slice of the music listener market pie. ![]() | |
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Cinnie said: theAudience said: Your opinion may be true for current listeners with short attention spans.
I believe that's a huge slice of the music listener market pie. ![]() The New World Order (nWo) of the ORG: Timmy84 - bboy87 - MuthaFunka - phunkdaddy - LittleBLUECorvette - Christopher
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StarMon said: I couldn't wait to get my mitts on the LP for the none radio play jams.
The only way this happens is to have a kick-ass single though. We're going around in circles | |
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Cinnie said: StarMon said: I couldn't wait to get my mitts on the LP for the none radio play jams.
The only way this happens is to have a kick-ass single though. We're going around in circles ...and back when there were Disc Jockeys, you had radio jocks that played the deep cuts.. some more than the official released singles, ..and likely with a lot a flack from the radio "program director" and local major label AD of A&R guys. [Edited 10/8/08 18:25pm] | |
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There was a time when artists didnt have be told, "hey, just make sincerely good music". If we dont fund the arts in schools there wont be anybody left to make real music. " Thats it?"...."I got it, I'm gone." Do the Right Thing | |
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Why buy the singles, when you can download the whole album? Quincy is not entirely right here, I'm not gonna buy a Britney Spears, Christina Aguilera, Janet Jackson, Mariah Carey album when I can download them, there are only a very few artists who I will actually go out and buy their albums.
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carlcranshaw said: Great find! Thanks for posting this. tA Tribal Disorder
http://www.soundclick.com...dID=182431 "Ya see, we're not interested in what you know...but what you are willing to learn. C'mon y'all." | |
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Cinnie said: theAudience said: Your opinion may be true for current listeners with short attention spans.
I believe that's a huge slice of the music listener market pie. ![]() That's not right. | |
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There are plenty of albums released each year that are great/near great.
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