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As much as love MJ's music I've yet to be impressed with any of the "unreleased" songs or "demos" we've heard so far.  I'm sick and tired of the Prince fans being sick and tired of the Prince fans that are sick and tired! | |
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Never Can Say Goodbye- the 1989 Adult Version that was recorded for Decade
I'll Be There-the 1989 Adult Version that was recorded for Decade. Contrary to some fan's belief, it is not the same version that was featured in the 1992 Pepsi Commercial Nightmare of Edgar Allen Poe- song believed to be written by Michael and Walter Afansieff in 1999-2000 for the planned film "The Nightmare of Edgar Allen Poe" No News Is Good News-written by Stevie Wonder for the J5/Steve collaboration album that was planned for 1974 Nona- written by Jackie Jackson. Intended for the Victory album Nymphette Lover- written by Michael in 1981 Ode To Sorrow- written by Michael in 1977. Possibly one of the classical pieces he wrote in the mid 70s On My Anger- written by Michael and Teddy Riley in 1999 for the Invincible album One Day I'll Marry You- J5 song that was recorded in 1970-73 that wasn't released until 1979 on the Boogie album Ooh Baby Baby- J5's cover of Smokey Robinson and The Miracle's hit single The Pain- written by Rodney Jerkins, Jay Harvey Mason, and Shawn Stockman for Invincible Penny Arcade- J5 song recorded in 1970-73 that wasn't released until 1979 on the Boogie album People Have To Make Some Kind of Joke- written by Michael possibly between 1985-1993 Peter Pan- written by Michael for the planned movie about the fantasy character that turned out to become the 1993 film "Hook" Planet Earth- song written by Michael for the Dangerous album but didn't make the tracklisting. Was included in the liner notes as a poem and again in the 1992 book "Dancing The Dream" Power- written by Jackie Jackson for the Victory album in around 1983-84 Pressure written by Rodney Jerkins, Lashawn Daniels, Fred Jerkins III, and Jay Harvey Mason for the Invincible album The Price of Fams- written by Michael in 1985-86 for the Bad album. Originally slated to appear in the 1987 "Chase" Pepsi commercials, but due to not making the album, it was replaced by a special version of Bad". The Price of Fame version exists. Purple Snowflakes- J5 cover of Marvin Gaye's holiday song for their 1970's Christmas album P.Y.T.- demo version that was written by Michael and Greg Philliganes in 1982. Quincy Jones felt the song should be an uptempo track and asked artist James Ingram to write a dance oriented version. Quicksand- J5's cover of Martha and The Vandella's hit single Red Eye- written by Michael. Date Unknown Rock With You- demo version that was to released on the 2001 Special Edition, but was taken off at the last minute Rolling The Dice- written by Rod Temperton for Thriller Sad Souvenirs- J5's cover of Four Tops song Satisfy You- written by Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis. Duet between by Mariah Carey and Michael and her Charmbracelet album Saved By The Bell- written by Michael and Jermaine Scared of The Moon- written by Michael in 1985 for a book project of the same name Scream- solo version. Part of this version was played during the 1996-97 HIStory World Tour The Scrub- written by Tito's music teacher Shirley Cartman and recorded by The Jackson 5 during the Steeltown days Seduction- written by Michael and Shelby Myrick III during 2001-2005 Seeing Voices- written by Michael, Ray Charles and Sidney Fine. Duet of Michael and Ray Charles And the Ray Charles Choir. Intended for the Invincible album Serious Effect- written by Michael and Teddy Riley for the Dangerous album. Featured LL Cool J. Recorded in 1990 Seven Digits- written by Michael and Bryan Loren. One of the 25 songs they worked together on for the Dangerous album. Shake Me, Wake Me, (When It's Over)- J5's cover of the Four Tops hit She Got It- written by Michael for the Dangerous album. Leaked on the internet in 2007. Was planned to be released on the 2001 edition of Dangerous, but was pulled from the set. Certain fans bought the acetate and held on to the songs She Got It, Work That Body, and Lisa, It's Your Birthday for 5 years. One fan bought another copy of the acetate and shared it to the entire fan community (a big F U to those greedy fans!) She Say What- J5 song for Motown She Was Loving Me- written by Michael and Mark Rooney for Invincible She's Not A Girl- written by Michael possibly for Thriller She's Trouble- written by Terry Britten, Bill Livesy, and Sue Shifrin for Thriller. Michael's version that was recorded in 1981-82 leaked on the internet in the late 90s. Later recorded by Scott Baio for his 1983 album and again by Musical Youth for their "Different Style" album. Their version peaked at #65 on the Pop charts and #25 on the R&B charts Signed, Sealed, Delivered, I'm Yours- J5's cover of Stevie Wonder's classic hit Silent Night- J5's cover of the traditional holiday song for their 1970 Christmas album Silver Bells- J5's version that was recorded for the 1970 Christmas album Since I Lost My Baby- J5's cover of Temptations' hit single Since You've Been Gone- J5 cover of Four Tops' hit Sister Sue- written by Michael. Date Unknown The Sky Is The Limit- written by Michael and Jermaine from 1981-1984 Slapstick- written by Rod Temperton. The early version of Hot Street Slipped Away- written by Michael and Marlon Jackson for the Triumph album. 2 versions exists "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." | |
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I wanna hear Nymphette Lover.
Damn, Mike, release it. "When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all." | |
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dag said: I wanna hear Nymphette Lover.
Damn, Mike, release it. I mainly want to hear the stuff from 1978-1989. That's my favorite period "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." | |
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bboy87 said: dag said: I wanna hear Nymphette Lover.
Damn, Mike, release it. I mainly want to hear the stuff from 1978-1989. That's my favorite period The problem with demos and unreleased tracks, is most are like "Got The Hots". You can HEAR why they were never released. We're dying to hear so many of these, but in the end, there is no guarantee that any of them are good at all. I think there is a reason why they are still in his vault lol. However, there are a select few, like For All Time, that are brilliant. I think we're spoiled as Mj's fans- we get a LOT of leaks of unreleased tracks, and it's awesome! Yay to more leaks! www.maximum-jackson.com
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marnifrances said: bboy87 said: I mainly want to hear the stuff from 1978-1989. That's my favorite period The problem with demos and unreleased tracks, is most are like "Got The Hots". You can HEAR why they were never released. We're dying to hear so many of these, but in the end, there is no guarantee that any of them are good at all. I think there is a reason why they are still in his vault lol. However, there are a select few, like For All Time, that are brilliant. I think we're spoiled as Mj's fans- we get a LOT of leaks of unreleased tracks, and it's awesome! Yay to more leaks! Hey! I happen to love Got The Hots!  "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." | |
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bboy87 said: marnifrances said: The problem with demos and unreleased tracks, is most are like "Got The Hots". You can HEAR why they were never released. We're dying to hear so many of these, but in the end, there is no guarantee that any of them are good at all. I think there is a reason why they are still in his vault lol. However, there are a select few, like For All Time, that are brilliant. I think we're spoiled as Mj's fans- we get a LOT of leaks of unreleased tracks, and it's awesome! Yay to more leaks! Hey! I happen to love Got The Hots! Well, I like most of the leaked, unrelesed stuff. Circus girl Love never felt so good (that´s just perfect) Escape Fly away .... Actually I think that some of the unreleased stuff is better than some of the released stuff. "When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all." | |
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dag said: bboy87 said: Hey! I happen to love Got The Hots! Well, I like most of the leaked, unrelesed stuff. Circus girl Love never felt so good (that´s just perfect) Escape Fly away .... Actually I think that some of the unreleased stuff is better than some of the released stuff. I still stand by my belief that Monkey Business or For All Time should've been on Dangerous instead of Heal The World. That's the album's biggest flaw IMO "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." | |
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FAT should have replaced Heal The World, yes.
I am not saying all of the unreleased stuff is bad- I actually love most of it. What I am saying is that you can tell or hear why a lot of the tracks were left off albums. Although some I will never understand why they were left off- FAT, Fly Away, Love Never Felt So Good, and Escape as said by dag. [Edited 8/24/08 5:52am] www.maximum-jackson.com
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marnifrances said: FAT should have replaced Heal The World, yes.
I am not saying all of the unreleased stuff is bad- I actually love most of it. What I am saying is that you can tell or hear why a lot of the tracks were left off albums. Although some I will never understand why they were left off- FAT, Fly Away, Love Never Felt So Good, and Escape as said by dag. [Edited 8/24/08 5:52am] I will never understand how you are my life was chosen over fall again, that song should have been finished and put on Invincible! | |
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Satisfy You- written by Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis. Duet between by Mariah Carey and Michael and her Charmbracelet album
I don't belive that. MJ wrote and recoded a song with teh same name with Brian Loren! most of those titles must be rumours. | |
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bboy87 said: dag said: Well, I like most of the leaked, unrelesed stuff. Circus girl Love never felt so good (that´s just perfect) Escape Fly away .... Actually I think that some of the unreleased stuff is better than some of the released stuff. I still stand by my belief that Monkey Business or For All Time should've been on Dangerous instead of Heal The World. That's the album's biggest flaw IMO I actually like Heal the World and especially kids love it. When I play it to kids at school while teaching in English, they all like it. For me, weak MJ tracks that were released include, for instance: You are my life This time around Just Good Friends Baby Be Mine Invincible Hold my Hand You are not alone Scream (I understand that he thought it was some innovative music but I was never too keen on that song) etc. There are some weaker MJ songs, even though I am still glad I have them. "When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all." | |
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graecophilos said: Satisfy You- written by Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis. Duet between by Mariah Carey and Michael and her Charmbracelet album
I don't belive that. MJ wrote and recoded a song with teh same name with Brian Loren! most of those titles must be rumours. Some details are incorrect- there are some errors, which I am sure the writers are aware of now, but I believe the book is mostly accurate. However, every song from For The Record has proof behind it- copyrights, records etc. There is a section in the book (For The Record) that deals separately with rumoured and unproven tracks 
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"Nymphette Lover"? Could this be a mistake? In 1980,he wrote and produced a song called "Nighttime Lover" for his sister LaToya.
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Nymphette Lover is the shit! 
It has some cool bass in it. The lyrics are almost naughty. Some parts of it were used on Starlight, the early version of Thriller...  | |
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Great thread bboy87  but i have to say that HTW is a stong track on the dangerous album and matched his persona at the time. | |
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Matronik said: Nymphette Lover is the shit!
It has some cool bass in it. The lyrics are almost naughty. Some parts of it were used on Starlight, the early version of Thriller...  YOu´ve heard it??? Do you still have it???? Could you orgnote me with it? "When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all." | |
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dag said: For me, weak MJ tracks that were released include, for instance:
Baby Be Mine "Whitney was purely and simply one of a kind." ~ Clive Davis | |
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AlexdeParis said: dag said: For me, weak MJ tracks that were released include, for instance:
Baby Be Mine WTF!!!! Dag are u ok??? Baby be mine is one of my all time mj tunes!!! | |
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dag said: Matronik said: Nymphette Lover is the shit!
It has some cool bass in it. The lyrics are almost naughty. Some parts of it were used on Starlight, the early version of Thriller... YOu´ve heard it??? Do you still have it???? Could you orgnote me with it? Actually I haven't. just kidding with my fellow mj fans! | |
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bboy87 said: pjh1972 said: I think if half this stuff existed in a completed or even half completed form, Sony would have found a way to release it by now instead of putting the same old previoulsy released tracks on all the compilations over and over again.
The fact that even on the Ultimate Collection there were not a great deal of previously unreleased tracks, and some of them were demos, shows that the barrel has already been scraped. Otherwise, they would have cashed in and put more unreleased tracks on there and on Thriller 25. Instead, in the latter case, they resorted to pretending that For All Time was from the Thriller sessions when most fans knew it came from the Bad era. I don't buy the idea that MJ has a 'vault', he just isn't productive enough. [Edited 8/14/08 4:13am] [Edited 8/14/08 4:13am] No, because Michael owns all of the unreleased material. Unlike the Motown stuff, he owns the master recordings to those unreleased songs and will possibly own the OTW, Thriller, and Bad masters in the next 2 years. The deal with the Ultimate Collection was that Michael's never been too keen on releasing unreleased stuff. The Jacksons recorded nearly 500 songs for Motown and only about 200 of those have been released. Michael was very productive from 1976 to 1989. Now..... not so much It looks like Michael already owns his masters for all of his albums. If you go to iTunes you will see Off The Wall, Thriller and Bad etc are all owned by MJJ Productions Inc not Sony as opposed to The Jacksons albums which are still owned by Sony under Sony BMG Music Entertainment, and Prince's albums listed ubder Warner Bros.Record and Warners still own Madonna's masters etc. BenS71 | |
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BenS71 said: bboy87 said: No, because Michael owns all of the unreleased material. Unlike the Motown stuff, he owns the master recordings to those unreleased songs and will possibly own the OTW, Thriller, and Bad masters in the next 2 years. The deal with the Ultimate Collection was that Michael's never been too keen on releasing unreleased stuff. The Jacksons recorded nearly 500 songs for Motown and only about 200 of those have been released. Michael was very productive from 1976 to 1989. Now..... not so much It looks like Michael already owns his masters for all of his albums. If you go to iTunes you will see Off The Wall, Thriller and Bad etc are all owned by MJJ Productions Inc not Sony as opposed to The Jacksons albums which are still owned by Sony under Sony BMG Music Entertainment, and Prince's albums listed ubder Warner Bros.Record and Warners still own Madonna's masters etc. MJ was always a smart business man. No doubt about it and without alot of studies. I admire him for that. | |
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Matronik said: BenS71 said: It looks like Michael already owns his masters for all of his albums. If you go to iTunes you will see Off The Wall, Thriller and Bad etc are all owned by MJJ Productions Inc not Sony as opposed to The Jacksons albums which are still owned by Sony under Sony BMG Music Entertainment, and Prince's albums listed ubder Warner Bros.Record and Warners still own Madonna's masters etc. MJ was always a smart business man. No doubt about it and without alot of studies. I admire him for that. Michael Jackson along with David Bowie is one of the few stars to own his masters. Michael's owned the masters for all his album since the recording of the Bad album. He was just waiting for Sony to give him his masters to Off The Wall and Thriller, as promised in Sony/Epic's 1990-91 Billion $ profit potential contract Michael signed for an undisclosed sum. BenS71 | |
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BenS71 said: Matronik said: MJ was always a smart business man. No doubt about it and without alot of studies. I admire him for that. Michael Jackson along with David Bowie is one of the few artists to own their masters. Michael's owned the masters for all his album since the recording of the Bad album. He was just waiting for Sony to give him his masters to Off The Wall and Thriller, as promised in Sony/Epic's 1990-91 Billion $ profit potential contract Michael signed for an undisclosed sum. BenS71 | |
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BenS71 said: Matronik said: MJ was always a smart business man. No doubt about it and without alot of studies. I admire him for that. Michael Jackson along with David Bowie is one of the few stars to own his masters. Michael's owned the masters for all his album since the recording of the Bad album. He was just waiting for Sony to give him his masters to Off The Wall and Thriller, as promised in Sony/Epic's 1990-91 Billion $ profit potential contract Michael signed for an undisclosed sum. Ray Charles paved the way. | |
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Matronik said: AlexdeParis said: WTF!!!! Dag are u ok??? Baby be mine is one of my all time mj tunes!!! I hope so. I don´t know. It´s an OK song, but there are some I like a lot better."When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all." | |
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dag said: Matronik said: WTF!!!! Dag are u ok??? Baby be mine is one of my all time mj tunes!!! I hope so. I don´t know. It´s an OK song, but there are some I like a lot better.But honey, the bass on it is divine! | |
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Matronik said: dag said: I hope so. I don´t know. It´s an OK song, but there are some I like a lot better.But honey, the bass on it is divine! OK. Well, I love the verses, but I am just not crazy about the chorus. "When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all." | |
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graecophilos said: Satisfy You- written by Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis. Duet between by Mariah Carey and Michael and her Charmbracelet album
I don't belive that. MJ wrote and recoded a song with teh same name with Brian Loren! most of those titles must be rumours. Actually "Satisfy" is real. There's info on it on a Mariah Carey site. At least 98% of the book is accurate. Here's a little story: When I started contributing info on the book, there was a certain fan (some MJ fans know who he is) who started talking shit to me and calling me a fraud and a liar because he had never heard any of the info I was giving. Then I posted the US Copyright Office site, and he had shut his mouth
This guy is real jerk  "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." | |
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bboy87 said: graecophilos said: Satisfy You- written by Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis. Duet between by Mariah Carey and Michael and her Charmbracelet album
I don't belive that. MJ wrote and recoded a song with teh same name with Brian Loren! most of those titles must be rumours. Actually "Satisfy" is real. There's info on it on a Mariah Carey site. At least 98% of the book is accurate. Here's a little story: When I started contributing info on the book, there was a certain fan (some MJ fans know who he is) who started talking shit to me and calling me a fraud and a liar because he had never heard any of the info I was giving. Then I posted the US Copyright Office site, and he had shut his mouth
This guy is real jerk Wait a minute. Maybe I have missed something, By contributing ingo on the book, you mean posting here on the org, or actually some book? "When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all." | |
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