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junebug18

Where does Mint Condition rank in male 90's R&B groups?

Yes they are a band, and should not be considered a "group"... but whatever.... scratch that. Where do you rank them on your male 90's r&b groups/bands list? Number 1? Top 3? Top 5? Top 10? Top 20?

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Reply #1 posted 07/13/08 7:00pm

Justaphase

I'd have them second, right behind Tony!Toni!Tone!...

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Reply #2 posted 07/13/08 7:01pm

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Justaphase said:

I'd have them second, right behind Tony!Toni!Tone!...


I think that's a fair analysis even though i like mint better
as a band.

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Reply #3 posted 07/13/08 7:02pm

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junebug18 said:

Yes they are a band, and should not be considered a "group"... but whatever.... scratch that. Where do you rank them on your male 90's r&b groups/bands list? Number 1? Top 3? Top 5? Top 10? Top 20?



Let's start by putting them behind Boys II Men. . . . .

I say you're my best friend/Cause I really don't want 'em to know
Each times a betrayal/ But your arms the only place I can go
And it hurts us so/ But their illusions have no end
And I call you my best friend
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Reply #4 posted 07/13/08 7:10pm

phunkdaddy

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SUPRMAN said:

junebug18 said:

Yes they are a band, and should not be considered a "group"... but whatever.... scratch that. Where do you rank them on your male 90's r&b groups/bands list? Number 1? Top 3? Top 5? Top 10? Top 20?



Let's start by putting them behind Boys II Men. . . . .


eek I felt boyz II men were a one album wonder. I know i'm in
the minority but a lot of their first album was cheesy new jack.
Their second album was a masterpiece which featured the polished
production of L.A-Face and jam-lewis. Albums after that were
pretty forgettable.

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Reply #5 posted 07/13/08 7:18pm

SUPRMAN

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phunkdaddy said:

SUPRMAN said:




Let's start by putting them behind Boys II Men. . . . .


eek I felt boyz II men were a one album wonder. I know i'm in
the minority but a lot of their first album was cheesy new jack.
Their second album was a masterpiece which featured the polished
production of L.A-Face and jam-lewis. Albums after that were
pretty forgettable.


I think their first two albums were very good and the one they produced themselves was ok . . .
Never really into Mint Condition

I say you're my best friend/Cause I really don't want 'em to know
Each times a betrayal/ But your arms the only place I can go
And it hurts us so/ But their illusions have no end
And I call you my best friend
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Reply #6 posted 07/13/08 7:20pm

LittleBLUECorv
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Lets see ...


you got Tony Toni Tone
Guy
Jodeci
Shai
BLACKstreet
LeVert
Boyz II Men
H-Town
Dru Hill
Jadded Edge
112
Next
Ideal
Az Yet
The Boys
Bel Biv DeVoe
Hi-Five
Soul IV Real
Immature
Public Announcement

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Reply #7 posted 07/13/08 8:52pm

SUPRMAN

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LittleBLUECorvette said:

Lets see ...


you got Tony Toni Tone
Guy
Jodeci
Shai
BLACKstreet
LeVert
Boyz II Men
H-Town
Dru Hill
Jadded Edge
112
Next
Ideal
Az Yet
The Boys
Bel Biv DeVoe
Hi-Five
Soul IV Real
Immature
Public Announcement


Wow, lots of one hit wonders . . . No
Dru Hill, Guy, Soul IV Real, Boyz II Men, Tony Toni Tone . . . .
I'd still go with Boyz II Men, then TTT, then Guy, Dru Hill and Soul IV Real.
The others I couldn't name more than one or two singles . . .

I say you're my best friend/Cause I really don't want 'em to know
Each times a betrayal/ But your arms the only place I can go
And it hurts us so/ But their illusions have no end
And I call you my best friend
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Reply #8 posted 07/13/08 9:00pm

Stymie

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i don't put Mint in a category with most of those groups. Thir music has always felt more grown up to me. Most of those cats named didn't even play an instrument. i think they belong in their category.

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Reply #9 posted 07/13/08 10:35pm

lowkey

they are top 5 for me, i love them
(in no order)
mint
jodeci
boys 2 men
dru hill
blackstreet

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Reply #10 posted 07/13/08 11:27pm

BlaqueKnight

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junebug18 said:

Yes they are a band, and should not be considered a "group"... but whatever.... scratch that. Where do you rank them on your male 90's r&b groups/bands list? Number 1? Top 3? Top 5? Top 10? Top 20?


Numero uno.
They are like an 70s- early 80s band (in terms of skills) that came out in the 90s.

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Reply #11 posted 07/14/08 6:13am

junebug18

LittleBLUECorvette said:

Lets see ...


you got Tony Toni Tone
Guy
Jodeci
Shai
BLACKstreet
LeVert
Boyz II Men
H-Town
Dru Hill
Jadded Edge
112
Next
Ideal
Az Yet
The Boys
Bel Biv DeVoe
Hi-Five
Soul IV Real
Immature
Public Announcement

Are you serious? One hit/One album wonder groups and certain groups where the singers can barely sing are better than MC?

Anyways, personally Mint is my favorite, followed by Jodeci, then these groups come afterwards in no specific order.

Silk, Dru Hill, Tony Toni Tone, Boyz II Men.

I think MC should at least be in everyones top 10.

As for that BIIM comment, I kinda agree with that. Their first 2 albums were good, but when they dropped Evolution, they started to lose me.

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Reply #12 posted 07/14/08 6:58am

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R&B group in the 1990s? What's that? lol

Anyway, my favorite R&B groups (or artists with a band) of the 1990s are some of the same from the 1970s and 1980s....Prince, Chic, War, Cameo, The Barkays, and Roger. All these groups had a decent album in the 1990s. Unfortunately the music scene was so damn dull in the 1990s that they got very little or no airplay.

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Reply #13 posted 07/14/08 2:15pm

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Guy would be my favorite, but half of their great material is from the late '80s. Vocally, Shai was my favorite by a long shot, but they never managed to create a consistently great album (well, other than the remix CD -- that one is fire!). Boyz II Men and Jodeci will always hold a special place in my heart, but they both followed the same blazing-start-and-quick-fade career path (something Dru Hill repeated -- always following Jodeci lol).

Mint Condition certainly weren't among the biggest hit makers, but they were right up at the top talent-wise. Personally, I prefer Tony! Toni! Toné!, but Mint rocks. "U Send Me Swingin'" is one of the best R&B songs of the decade IMO.

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Reply #14 posted 07/14/08 3:03pm

junebug18

vainandy said:

R&B group in the 1990s? What's that? lol

Anyway, my favorite R&B groups (or artists with a band) of the 1990s are some of the same from the 1970s and 1980s....Prince, Chic, War, Cameo, The Barkays, and Roger. All these groups had a decent album in the 1990s. Unfortunately the music scene was so damn dull in the 1990s that they got very little or no airplay.

I guess I shoulda clarified. NEW R&B groups or bands of the 90's i.e. boyz ii men, jodeci, you know, the groups that were introduced into the mainstream in the 90's and were in their respective primes.

EWF and such groups were still making music, yes, but they are generally considered artists of another decade specifically, the 70's.

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Reply #15 posted 07/14/08 4:18pm

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Number 1 in my book.
They are the Isley Brothers/EWF/Slave of todays music.
[Edited 7/14/08 16:20pm]

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Reply #16 posted 07/14/08 7:15pm

phunkdaddy

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I would vote them number 1 based on their live shows and only the
original tonies lineup come close.

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Reply #17 posted 07/14/08 7:17pm

LittleBLUECorv
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junebug18 said:

LittleBLUECorvette said:

Lets see ...


you got Tony Toni Tone
Guy
Jodeci
Shai
BLACKstreet
LeVert
Boyz II Men
H-Town
Dru Hill
Jadded Edge
112
Next
Ideal
Az Yet
The Boys
Bel Biv DeVoe
Hi-Five
Soul IV Real
Immature
Public Announcement

Are you serious? One hit/One album wonder groups and certain groups where the singers can barely sing are better than MC?

I was merely throwin' out names. No way in hell groups like Immature and Hi-Five are better than Mint C.

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Reply #18 posted 07/16/08 3:59pm

junebug18

LittleBLUECorvette said:

junebug18 said:


Are you serious? One hit/One album wonder groups and certain groups where the singers can barely sing are better than MC?

I was merely throwin' out names. No way in hell groups like Immature and Hi-Five are better than Mint C.

LOL. true true....but where would you rank them tho?

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Reply #19 posted 07/16/08 7:28pm

LittleBLUECorv
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junebug18 said:

LittleBLUECorvette said:


I was merely throwin' out names. No way in hell groups like Immature and Hi-Five are better than Mint C.

LOL. true true....but where would you rank them tho?

Me personally, behind Guy/Toni/Jodeci and maybe BLACKstreet.

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Reply #20 posted 07/18/08 6:01pm

junebug18

LittleBLUECorvette said:

junebug18 said:


LOL. true true....but where would you rank them tho?

Me personally, behind Guy/Toni/Jodeci and maybe BLACKstreet.

What was so special about BLACKsteet? I never saw it from day one.

Personally Jodeci, Guy, And Toni, I wouldnt put over Mint but are in the same range, so I can understand someone else doing putting them over Mint in a way, but BLACKstreet? I really think there was nothing special about those guys at all....

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Reply #21 posted 07/18/08 7:45pm

nammie

Mint is in a category all their own, just 'cause I love them so damn much. I just wish they would change their set a bit. So much to peform but they get stuck playing the same songs, at least here in NYC...

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Reply #22 posted 07/18/08 7:51pm

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Number 1 in Graycap's book

"Yeah, you can find some shit-hop that is good." - TheMightyCelestial
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Reply #23 posted 07/18/08 7:56pm

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Tony Toni Tone
Blackstreet
Jodeci
Mint Condition
Dru Hill
Boyz II Men
Guy
112
New Edition
Color me Bad boxed

CindeRiOT!
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Reply #24 posted 07/18/08 8:38pm

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Cinnie said:

Number 1 in Graycap's book


Count me in too. cool

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Reply #25 posted 07/18/08 8:52pm

Dance

Groups and bands aren't the same damn thing. Groups are ex-strippers, drug dealers, and inmates. Bands are musicians, artists, and performers.

Anyway, they don't rank anywhere because those groups aren't on their level.

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Reply #26 posted 07/18/08 10:50pm

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Dance said:

Groups and bands aren't the same damn thing. Groups are ex-strippers, drug dealers, and inmates. Bands are musicians, artists, and performers.

Anyway, they don't rank anywhere because those groups aren't on their level.

Well in that case, not only is Mint a band but so is Guy, Jodeci and Immature. lol

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Reply #27 posted 07/18/08 11:27pm

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They're the top group. Musicianship, writing skills, hits. They're the top group, despite the comparative weakness of their latest project.

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Reply #28 posted 07/19/08 1:03am

Cinnie

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ThreadBare said:

They're the top group. Musicianship, writing skills, hits.


okay name them redface

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Reply #29 posted 07/19/08 5:48am

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Cinnie said:

ThreadBare said:

They're the top group. Musicianship, writing skills, hits.


okay name them redface

Here you go:

Breakin' My Heart (Pretty Brown Eyes) - #3
Forever in Your Eyes - #7
U Send Me Swingin' - #2
What Kind of Man Would I Be - #2
You Don't Have to Hurt No More - #10
If You Love Me - #5

Six top-10 hits... certainly not a bad track record, but nothing compared to Tony! Toni! Toné!, who have 12 top-10 hits, 10 of which were top 5 and 5 of which ("Little Walter," "The Blues," "Feels Good," "It Never Rains," and "Whatever You Want") reached #1.

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