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Thread started 06/29/08 8:07pm

GoActive

Nasty Girl's of Rap You've (Probably) Never Heard Of

I thought it'd be worth a shot in the dark to bring attention to what can be considered the precursor's (early 90's) to the hyper-sexualized female rapper that Lil' Kim successfully ushered into the mainstream with 1996's, Hardcore.

Unlike Kim, these females were more along the lines of being rap novelties; I doubt you would ever hear their name being brought up in a discussion in regards to impressive lyricisim. While Luke Campbell's 2 Live Crew flaunted their obscenity for all to hear and see from a male perspective, these brazen women sent shock waves throughout the industry by assuming the roles of their male counterparts (with a feminine touch no less). Whether they spoke of sodomizing their male partner with a dildo, willing participation in prostitution, engaging in around-the-clock gangbangs, or simply "fucking for a nut;" no topic proved too risque to be touched upon.

At a time when femcees the likes of Queen Latifah, Harmony, and Yo-Yo were promoting messages of African-American female empowerment and self-worth, these ladies threw every rule of a conventional female rapper out the window and laid on their backs with their legs spread wide open! How's that for being as nasty as they wanna be?


First up, B.W.P. (Bytches With Problems):
The female duo Bitches With Problems (BWP) debuted in 1991 to a mix of outrage and indifference with The Bytches on No Face. They were subsequently signed by RAl-Chaos, a label distributed by Columbia, and issued Life's a Bitch in 1993. This duo talked about stuff that women talked about behind closed doors. Periods were not off limits as with the song "Cotex," with one half of the group shouting, "B.... go change your Cotex," referring to a female funking it up. They talked about child support, deadbeat boyfriends, and cash. "Is the P Still Good," is about just what it sounds. Like Hoes with Attitude, Bytches with Problems was often called a female 2 Live Crew because of its X-rated, rude and crude lyrics. And like the Crew, the Bytches were a guilty pleasure one would enjoy only after his girlfriend had left the room (Life's a Bitch was subsequently shelved for reasons unknown just days before it's scheduled release).




Not too far off, Choice:
Texan female rapper Choice debuted on Rap-A-Lot Records in 1989. She was featured on Willie D's album bragging about her pussy that was "the size of Bolivia". Her stint on Willie's album paved the way for her now infamous debut, "The Big Payback". Rap audiences were left speechless when Choice dared to diss all of the big male rap acts of the time (NWA, Geto Boys, Too Short) on her debut single "Payback". Whether she was calling them ugly or questioning their sexuality, Choice let these men know she was not to be messed with! As for the rest of the album, Choice took the time to tackle serious issues plaguing the female African American youth at the time: small dick boyfriends, premature ejaculation, masturbation, and cunninlingus.

In 1992 Choice released her sophomore effort, "Stick-N-Moove". This album would set the standards for raunchy female rappers for the years to come. Choice took things to the other level with such sexually charged tracks like "Tales From The Sexside" and "One Just Ain't Enough". Choice, the finest woman living in Texas, once again didn't censor herself. Her songs about gang bangs, anal sex, and raping her man with a dildo, left listeners in awe. No other woman in rap had ever taken things to such an extreme. Of course, in her quest to be multi-dimensional, Choice took the time to explore topics that didn't have to do with just her sexual escapades. "HIV Positive" was the album's first single and served as a sort of public awareness for HIV dilemma occurring in the country. "Storybook Ho's" saw Choice breaking down the gritty truth of life in the ghetto using famous cartoon/fairytale characters.





Last, but certainly not least (aside from their barely there wardrobe), H.W.A. (Hoez With Attitude):
If BWP (Bitches With Problems) weren't hip-hop's most controversial female group of the early '90s, then HWA (Hoes With Attitudes) certainly qualified. Openly flaunting a loose (to put it mildly) sexual attitude and standing vulgarity to vulgarity with any male rapper, HWA failed to generate much sales action, but certainly got plenty of publicity, including a lengthy article in The Source and condemnation from sources as diverse as Rev. Calvin Butts and filmmaker Spike Lee.

Released in 1990, Livin' in a Hoe House is hardly the first example of women talking dirty. Vanity and other Prince disciples did it in the '80s, and Lucille Bogan's '30s blues classic "Shave 'Em Dry" is as X-rated as anything that H.W.A., B.W.P., or Lil' Kim ever recorded. But while this album isn't revolutionary, it's entertaining -- that is, if you have a taste for crude humor. No topic was taboo, whether it be the struggles with a not so well endowed boyfriend ("Little Dick"), phone sex hotlines ("1-900-Bitches"), good pussy ("Tight"), cunninglus ("Eat This"), or the days in the life of a nymphomaniac ("Freaky Daze").

In 1994, HWA returned with an EP titled, "Az Much Ass Azz U Want". Now under the supervision of rap legend Eazy-E on his Ruthless Records label, the hoez's second release boasted better production, lyrics and a nicer album cover! This EP has most definitely aged well like many of the other "West Coast" rap releases from the era. Lyrically, no new territory was explored, but the EP's purpose was to prepare the public for the upcoming full length album "Hoez In Training". Unfortunately with Eazy-E's untimely death the following year that album never happened and HWA split.



[Edited 6/29/08 20:20pm]
Reply #1 posted 06/29/08 8:10pm

Stymie

i know all of them. lol

BWP and the song Two Minute Brother. Ah, good times. lol
Reply #2 posted 06/29/08 8:15pm

TonyVanDam

I remember HWA's debut album. Those girls were crazy back in the days.
Reply #3 posted 06/29/08 8:15pm

GoActive

Stymie said:

i know all of them. lol

BWP and the song Two Minute Brother. Ah, good times. lol

I have more of an affinity towards Is The Pussy Still Good? lol
Reply #4 posted 06/29/08 8:21pm

GoActive

More H.W.A. goodness:

Funk Me:
Reply #5 posted 06/29/08 8:35pm

Stymie

GoActive said:

More H.W.A. goodness:

Funk Me:
that video was out when I was still trying to figure out who I was sexually. I honestly remember it making like girls a lot. lol
Reply #6 posted 06/29/08 8:40pm

GoActive

Stymie said:

GoActive said:

More H.W.A. goodness:

Funk Me:
that video was out when I was still trying to figure out who I was sexually. I honestly remember it making like girls a lot. lol

For good reason, I've never seen white stretch pants look so good. lol

I really dig the production however. music
Reply #7 posted 06/30/08 12:19am

Abdul

GoActive said:

I have more of an affinity towards Is The Pussy Still Good? lol
LMAO, especially the part at the end when she Cum's and then says "NOW GET THE FUCK OUT!" "GET YOUR FUNKY ASS UP AND OUT MUTHAFUCKA" GO BACK TO THAT BITCH YOU LEFT ME FOR" lol!!!  I still got my BWP CD, "Cotex" is my other favorite off there.HWA had a few funny songs off that first CD, "Eat My Pussy" and "Little Dick" being the funniest.
Reply #8 posted 06/30/08 12:28am

Abdul

Stymie said:

i know all of them. lol

BWP and the song Two Minute Brother. Ah, good times. lol



LOL who can forget Mark Sexx's rap on Two Minute Brother:

Godamn that shit sounds dope
look no further hoe I'm the pope
like religion, nasty or nice
you got to give me some pussy
like a sacrifce
I got the full 9" stretchin out to 12"
Baby you know I'll do you well
cause I'm a roll you over
cold split your clit
then let you cum in my mouth
while you suck my dick
then I'm a turn you over
belly up bitch
and lick that ass right where you shitttt.....
Reply #9 posted 06/30/08 12:30am

GoActive

Abdul said:

GoActive said:

I have more of an affinity towards Is The Pussy Still Good? lol
LMAO, especially the part at the end when she Cum's and then says "NOW GET THE FUCK OUT!" "GET YOUR FUNKY ASS UP AND OUT MUTHAFUCKA" GO BACK TO THAT BITCH YOU LEFT ME FOR" lol!!! I still got my BWP CD, "Cotex" is my other favorite off there.HWA had a few funny songs off that first CD, "Eat My Pussy" and "Little Dick" being the funniest.

Talk about a table turner, the ending makes the song!

lol @ this line from Eat My Pussy:
"Keep lickin' and suckin, and suckin and lickin'
You eatin' my pussy like it's Kentucky Fried Chicken"
Reply #10 posted 06/30/08 12:33am

Christopher

GoActive said:

More H.W.A. goodness:

Funk Me:

omg i was in like 3rd/4th grade when this came out.god stuff like this was such a big deal back then ...now its tame compared to the time thats elapsed since then. falloff
Reply #11 posted 06/30/08 12:35am

Abdul

GoActive said:



lol @ this line from Eat My Pussy:
"Keep lickin' and suckin, and suckin and lickin'
You eatin' my pussy like it's Kentucky Fried Chicken"


The hook on that cut always makes me laugh:

Pussy Pussy yeahh...
you know you wanna eat my pussy
Pussy Pussy yeahh...
you know you wanna eat my pussy


LOL!! It's so catchy
Reply #12 posted 06/30/08 12:46am

GoActive

Abdul said:

GoActive said:



lol @ this line from Eat My Pussy:
"Keep lickin' and suckin, and suckin and lickin'
You eatin' my pussy like it's Kentucky Fried Chicken"


The hook on that cut always makes me laugh:

Pussy Pussy yeahh...
you know you wanna eat my pussy
Pussy Pussy yeahh...
you know you wanna eat my pussy


LOL!! It's so catchy


Now that you mention it, a lot of their hooks were pretty catchy:

"1-900-248-2437
Bitches, a hoe with an attitude is fuckin' with ya ear
1-900-248-2437
Bithces, a hoe with an attitude is fuckin' with ya ear"


Or

"To live or die
Die Bitch!
To live or die
Die, die, die Bitch!"


OR

"Yeah you know you want some
Tight, tight pussy
Yeah you know you want some
Tight, tight pussy"


A classy bunch these ladies were. lol
Reply #13 posted 07/02/08 10:57am

boriquateddy

Ya'll forgot my girl LeShaun who debut in 88 as the vocal half of the duo 2 Much with "Wild Thang" the precursor to L.L.Cool J.'s "Doin It" she also dueted with him on her remake. In 88 she was known as Almond Joy along with her DJ Shortcut were one of the first female's to deliver a sexual narrative on wax. In to the 90's she released some more explicit music the song "Gimme Head" which is a duet with Cee of Brotha's ov da Black Market appeared on Queen Latifah's "Rollin wit the Flava" compilation back in 1993. She also later that year released the xxx freaky deaky single Wide Open which is a song about her giving her man some finger action. Unfortunately due to record company politics her album Ain't No Shame In My Game was never released. Although she was a little more versatile of an MC then the ladies previously mentioned she still could get vulgar and has done so on the sexual tip.


[Edited 7/2/08 11:02am]
I am not African. Africa is in me, but I cannot return.
I am not taína. Taíno is in me, but there is no way back.
I am not european. Europe lives in me, but I have no home there.
I am new. History made me. My first language was spanglish.
And I am
Reply #14 posted 07/02/08 11:39am

BlaqueKnight

What up, Teddy! Long time, no see!
I didn't know about LeShaun. She slipped by me. The rest, I was up on. Choice was wild.
Reply #15 posted 07/02/08 11:41am

poeticrockstar

Ahhh... HWA!

"what's that shit running down yo' leg? Juicy... juicy!"

I had that joint back in the day and they were light years ahead of Lil Kim!
Reply #16 posted 07/02/08 12:27pm

Taurus

I'm almost ashamed to admit it, but I own the HWA CD and was listening to it the other day.....
Reply #17 posted 07/02/08 12:34pm

poeticrockstar

Taurus said:

I'm almost ashamed to admit it, but I own the HWA CD and was listening to it the other day.....


Don't feel bad: Back then I bought this album twice.

However, I called myself going "religious" at one point and gave it away. That lasted all of a week.
Reply #18 posted 07/02/08 1:06pm

boriquateddy

BlaqueKnight said:

What up, Teddy! Long time, no see!
I didn't know about LeShaun. She slipped by me. The rest, I was up on. Choice was wild.



whats good BlaqueKnight??? Yeah Choice got alot of play out here on the west coast...I remember her video for The Big Payback she looked kinda MANtastic...LOL. as for LeShaun I have been on several HipHop blogs trying to track down her unreleased album...I know just by some of the song titles it was probably on the feaky side..."Leshaun n da 3 bears", and 1-900-Sum Joy. their were a few other chicks who were even more unknown then the ladies mentioned...Nic'cee Quick and U.N.L.V(Unfortunately No Longer Virgins)...also Eazy E. proteges Menajahtwa ventured into the X rated realm a few times with some of the tracks of their 1994 album Chalicious.
I am not African. Africa is in me, but I cannot return.
I am not taína. Taíno is in me, but there is no way back.
I am not european. Europe lives in me, but I have no home there.
I am new. History made me. My first language was spanglish.
And I am
Reply #19 posted 07/02/08 1:12pm

boriquateddy

GoActive said:

More H.W.A. goodness:

Funk Me:



Prince fans correct me if I am wrong doesn't it sound like DMSR was sampled in this song???
I am not African. Africa is in me, but I cannot return.
I am not taína. Taíno is in me, but there is no way back.
I am not european. Europe lives in me, but I have no home there.
I am new. History made me. My first language was spanglish.
And I am
Reply #20 posted 07/02/08 9:44pm

Abdul

boriquateddy said:

GoActive said:

More H.W.A. goodness:

Funk Me:



Prince fans correct me if I am wrong doesn't it sound like DMSR was sampled in this song???


It's "Raid" by Lakeside that's sampled on this cut boriquateddy
Reply #21 posted 07/03/08 6:53am

boriquateddy

Abdul said:

boriquateddy said:




Prince fans correct me if I am wrong doesn't it sound like DMSR was sampled in this song???


It's "Raid" by Lakeside that's sampled on this cut boriquateddy



My bad....I could have swore I heard a little part of Princes trade mark howl/screach/squeal noise he does in the beginning.
I am not African. Africa is in me, but I cannot return.
I am not taína. Taíno is in me, but there is no way back.
I am not european. Europe lives in me, but I have no home there.
I am new. History made me. My first language was spanglish.
And I am
Reply #22 posted 07/03/08 6:57am

boriquateddy

On another note I hear Lyndah from BWP is now a born again Christian and heavy into church.
I am not African. Africa is in me, but I cannot return.
I am not taína. Taíno is in me, but there is no way back.
I am not european. Europe lives in me, but I have no home there.
I am new. History made me. My first language was spanglish.
And I am
Reply #23 posted 07/10/08 6:36pm

Cinnie

I remember HWA from back in the day and I have BWP's cd, but I had never heard of Choice until boriquateddy broke it down a few years back.
Reply #24 posted 07/10/08 7:13pm

GoActive

Cinnie said:

I remember HWA from back in the day and I have BWP's cd, but I had never heard of Choice until boriquateddy broke it down a few years back.

He hipped me to Choice as well.

Can't get enough of her Stick-N-Moove album. Vast improvement -- both lyrically and production wise -- over The Big Payback.

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