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Reply #60 posted 05/10/07 2:06pm

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IstenSzek said:

i think the full title will be "7EVEN Y.O."

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ok i'm sorry redface


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Reply #61 posted 05/11/07 2:33am

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Didn't Raymone Bain deny that "Gangsta/No Friend Of Mine" was Michael Jackson when it quite obviously is?

She's clueless with bad hair to boot.
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Reply #62 posted 05/11/07 5:52am

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Pretty soon Bain will be denying that Invincible ever existed.
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Reply #63 posted 05/11/07 6:18am

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WildStyle said:

Pretty soon Bain will be denying that Invincible ever existed.


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Reply #64 posted 05/11/07 6:49am

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Seven... isn't that the number of times he's reached out-of-court settlements with parents of his young "friends"? hmmm


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Reply #65 posted 05/11/07 10:47pm

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OK, if I'm supposed to take this seriously...what label will this be coming out on? hmmm
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Reply #66 posted 05/11/07 11:04pm

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CandaceS said:

OK, if I'm supposed to take this seriously...what label will this be coming out on? hmmm

No Limit Records.
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Reply #67 posted 05/11/07 11:06pm

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NONE of this has been confirmed,so i don't know why people are taking this to the head, and some of you people really need to grow up.
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Reply #68 posted 05/11/07 11:34pm

JasonStar

As someone pointed out earlier, MJ has long digged the number seven. He at one time, had a company with the logo 777 on it. (I think I have a picture of the long if anyone wants to see it.)

I like the idea and I hope it turns out to be true. My favorite MJ album to date is HIStory (Disc 2) and this sounds like it has a lot more promise with Riley on board.

In a related note, Roger recently wrote in an article that MJ apparently reached out to Q to work on his new album and Q declined. Hmmmmm. Take it with a big grain of salt. However, if it is true, there goes the hope of it sounding like Off The Wall updated for 2007. (Besides, Invincible, Off The Wall updated for 2001 was a bad idea for the most part...)lol
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Reply #69 posted 05/12/07 7:45pm

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In a related note, Roger recently wrote in an article that MJ apparently reached out to Q to work on his new album and Q declined. Hmmmmm. Take it with a big grain of salt. However, if it is true, there goes the hope of it sounding like Off The Wall updated for 2007. (Besides, Invincible, Off The Wall updated for 2001 was a bad idea for the most part...)lol


Roger Friedman is full of shit lol I don't believe anything he writes.He likes to spread rumors and lies.
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Reply #70 posted 05/12/07 8:29pm

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LittleBLUECorvette said:

CandaceS said:

OK, if I'm supposed to take this seriously...what label will this be coming out on? hmmm


No Limit Records.


hmmm Never heard of it...
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Reply #71 posted 05/13/07 6:04am

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Cloudbuster said:

pjh1972 said:

Where did this album cover art come from ?


Hell.


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Reply #72 posted 05/13/07 7:24am

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IstenSzek said:

i think the full title will be "7EVEN Y.O."

falloff

ok i'm sorry redface


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Reply #73 posted 05/13/07 7:30am

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As someone pointed out earlier, MJ has long digged the number seven. He at one time, had a company with the logo 777 on it. (I think I have a picture of the long if anyone wants to see it.)

I like the idea and I hope it turns out to be true. My favorite MJ album to date is HIStory (Disc 2) and this sounds like it has a lot more promise with Riley on board.

In a related note, Roger recently wrote in an article that MJ apparently reached out to Q to work on his new album and Q declined. Hmmmmm. Take it with a big grain of salt. However, if it is true, there goes the hope of it sounding like Off The Wall updated for 2007. (Besides, Invincible, Off The Wall updated for 2001 was a bad idea for the most part...)lol


As if Quincy would turn down the opportunity to work with MJ. I'm sure he wanted to continue his working with MJ longer than MJ did.
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Reply #74 posted 05/13/07 7:42am

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JasonStar said:

As someone pointed out earlier, MJ has long digged the number seven. He at one time, had a company with the logo 777 on it. (I think I have a picture of the long if anyone wants to see it.)

I like the idea and I hope it turns out to be true. My favorite MJ album to date is HIStory (Disc 2) and this sounds like it has a lot more promise with Riley on board.

In a related note, Roger recently wrote in an article that MJ apparently reached out to Q to work on his new album and Q declined. Hmmmmm. Take it with a big grain of salt. However, if it is true, there goes the hope of it sounding like Off The Wall updated for 2007. (Besides, Invincible, Off The Wall updated for 2001 was a bad idea for the most part...)lol


As if Quincy would turn down the opportunity to work with MJ. I'm sure he wanted to continue his working with MJ longer than MJ did.


But Michael then and Michael now... that's a whole lot of difference.
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I hope Q and MJ are gonna work together though. Perfect combination. Forget Will.I.Am, forget Ne-Yo, forget Akon.. bring back old Quincy. smile
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Reply #75 posted 05/13/07 1:38pm

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Ronnuz said:

jayaredee said:



As if Quincy would turn down the opportunity to work with MJ. I'm sure he wanted to continue his working with MJ longer than MJ did.


But Michael then and Michael now... that's a whole lot of difference.
wink

I hope Q and MJ are gonna work together though. Perfect combination. Forget Will.I.Am, forget Ne-Yo, forget Akon.. bring back old Quincy. smile


MJ is probably alien to Q now, it's not surprising he wouldn't want to work with him again. It's ashame though, because they did make beautiful music together.
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Reply #76 posted 05/13/07 1:48pm

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whatsgoingon said:

Ronnuz said:



But Michael then and Michael now... that's a whole lot of difference.
wink

I hope Q and MJ are gonna work together though. Perfect combination. Forget Will.I.Am, forget Ne-Yo, forget Akon.. bring back old Quincy. smile


MJ is probably alien to Q now, it's not surprising he wouldn't want to work with him again. It's ashame though, because they did make beautiful music together.


I don't really blame Q for feeling that way about MJ either, if it is true. (Which I have my doubts about, considering the source is Roger...) However, Q has been nothing but good to Michael. He even did those interviews for, OTW, Thriller and Bad Special Editions. (When, Michael didn't even give him the heads up, he didn't want to work with him on Dangerous. He just started working on new music without him. Kinda cold.) Oh well, business is business I suppose.
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Reply #77 posted 05/14/07 12:40am

SoulAlive

Quincy doesn't produce anybody these days.He can't even get his own album finished.I think he has pretty much retired from making music.


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Reply #78 posted 05/14/07 1:17am

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JasonStar said:

whatsgoingon said:



MJ is probably alien to Q now, it's not surprising he wouldn't want to work with him again. It's ashame though, because they did make beautiful music together.


I don't really blame Q for feeling that way about MJ either, if it is true. (Which I have my doubts about, considering the source is Roger...) However, Q has been nothing but good to Michael. He even did those interviews for, OTW, Thriller and Bad Special Editions. (When, Michael didn't even give him the heads up, he didn't want to work with him on Dangerous. He just started working on new music without him. Kinda cold.) Oh well, business is business I suppose.

i remember hearing they had issues during the recording of Bad. Quincy also didn't want Smooth Criminal on the album
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Reply #79 posted 05/14/07 3:27am

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Didn't Raymone Bain deny that "Gangsta/No Friend Of Mine" was Michael Jackson when it quite obviously is?

She's clueless with bad hair to boot.


No, she denied that it was recorded recently. It was just an old studio-recording of Michael's that they used for this song. Raymone just said that Michael isn't involved at all with that song. And that's true.
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Reply #80 posted 05/14/07 8:56am

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Didn't Raymone Bain deny that "Gangsta/No Friend Of Mine" was Michael Jackson when it quite obviously is?

She's clueless with bad hair to boot.


I think that Raymone denied that "Gangsta" was a NEW MJ release. Did she deny that it was Michael's voice? Btw, I think that Raymone is the best publicist that Michael has ever had. I love how she quickly denies the false rumors that the media is intentionally putting out. Seriously, I wonder what is the problem that some people have with a publicist who doesn't take bull-shit. She doesn't just sit on her @$$ and allow the media to say what they want. Maybe that's the problem with people who don't like her.
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Reply #81 posted 05/14/07 9:00am

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JasonStar said:

As someone pointed out earlier, MJ has long digged the number seven. He at one time, had a company with the logo 777 on it. (I think I have a picture of the long if anyone wants to see it.)

I like the idea and I hope it turns out to be true. My favorite MJ album to date is HIStory (Disc 2) and this sounds like it has a lot more promise with Riley on board.

In a related note, Roger recently wrote in an article that MJ apparently reached out to Q to work on his new album and Q declined. Hmmmmm. Take it with a big grain of salt. However, if it is true, there goes the hope of it sounding like Off The Wall updated for 2007. (Besides, Invincible, Off The Wall updated for 2001 was a bad idea for the most part...)lol


If Roger Friedman said it, then it is not true. Friedman is a very sick man.
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Reply #82 posted 05/14/07 9:09am

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whatsgoingon said:

Ronnuz said:



But Michael then and Michael now... that's a whole lot of difference.
wink

I hope Q and MJ are gonna work together though. Perfect combination. Forget Will.I.Am, forget Ne-Yo, forget Akon.. bring back old Quincy. smile


MJ is probably alien to Q now, it's not surprising he wouldn't want to work with him again. It's ashame though, because they did make beautiful music together.


I truly hope that Michael does NOT work with Quincy again. I don't want another OTW or Thriller. I DO want another album in the same vein as Invincible; especially songs, like "Butterflies","Break Of Dawn" YRMW, "Heaven Can Wait", "Whatever Happens". Michael was at his sexiest with those songs. I really have always felt that the reason that a lot of critics and even fans didn't like Invincible was because they didn't want Michael to sing songs with an "adult" theme. It seems that there are many in the media and some fans who want him to continue singing songs like Speechless, Heal The World,etc. That would be career "suicide" for him to come out with ballads such as these. I and all of his "old school" fans want to hear Michael sing with the soulfulness of the aforementioned ballads and others such as "Lady In My Life", "Circus Girl", "Someone Put Your Hand Out". Lord, I hope that this new album is just soulful. Michael is at his best when he allows his soulfulness to shine through.
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Reply #83 posted 05/14/07 10:34am

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skyecute said:

whatsgoingon said:



MJ is probably alien to Q now, it's not surprising he wouldn't want to work with him again. It's ashame though, because they did make beautiful music together.


I truly hope that Michael does NOT work with Quincy again. I don't want another OTW or Thriller. I DO want another album in the same vein as Invincible; especially songs, like "Butterflies","Break Of Dawn" YRMW, "Heaven Can Wait", "Whatever Happens". Michael was at his sexiest with those songs. I really have always felt that the reason that a lot of critics and even fans didn't like Invincible was because they didn't want Michael to sing songs with an "adult" theme. It seems that there are many in the media and some fans who want him to continue singing songs like Speechless, Heal The World,etc. That would be career "suicide" for him to come out with ballads such as these. I and all of his "old school" fans want to hear Michael sing with the soulfulness of the aforementioned ballads and others such as "Lady In My Life", "Circus Girl", "Someone Put Your Hand Out". Lord, I hope that this new album is just soulful. Michael is at his best when he allows his soulfulness to shine through.
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The fact of the matter MJ gravitated on his own terms towards a more mainstream audience who love those Heal The World/Earth song/ Childhood type of songs, it's one of the many reasons MJ has lost alot of credibility and it has nothing to do with Quincy.!! Infact it is the albums that were not produced by Q that MJ is at his sappiest. The last time I look songs like Sppechless, Heal The World, Earth song and Childhood were on the albums like Dangerous, History etc. MJ current batch of hardcore fans seem to love those type of songs, it's nothing to do with the public, critics or Quincy; it's more to do with MJ and how he wants to convey his disney image and his fans.
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Reply #84 posted 05/14/07 12:08pm

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whatsgoingon said:

skyecute said:



I truly hope that Michael does NOT work with Quincy again. I don't want another OTW or Thriller. I DO want another album in the same vein as Invincible; especially songs, like "Butterflies","Break Of Dawn" YRMW, "Heaven Can Wait", "Whatever Happens". Michael was at his sexiest with those songs. I really have always felt that the reason that a lot of critics and even fans didn't like Invincible was because they didn't want Michael to sing songs with an "adult" theme. It seems that there are many in the media and some fans who want him to continue singing songs like Speechless, Heal The World,etc. That would be career "suicide" for him to come out with ballads such as these. I and all of his "old school" fans want to hear Michael sing with the soulfulness of the aforementioned ballads and others such as "Lady In My Life", "Circus Girl", "Someone Put Your Hand Out". Lord, I hope that this new album is just soulful. Michael is at his best when he allows his soulfulness to shine through.
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The fact of the matter MJ gravitated on his own terms towards a more mainstream audience who love those Heal The World/Earth song/ Childhood type of songs, it's one of the many reasons MJ has lost alot of credibility and it has nothing to do with Quincy.!! Infact it is the albums that were not produced by Q that MJ is at his sappiest. The last time I look songs like Sppechless, Heal The World, Earth song and Childhood were on the albums like Dangerous, History etc. MJ current batch of hardcore fans seem to love those type of songs, it's nothing to do with the public, critics or Quincy; it's more to do with MJ and how he wants to convey his disney image and his fans.

I am sorry, but Heal the world/Eerth song and others are perfect pop songs. Just pop at its best and pop is sappy so, of course, those songs are sappy. I also prefer other MJ songs, other styles, but I can´t say I don´t like these ones and I don´t know why I should not like them. BTW, I happened to play Heal the world today at school to my 12 year old students and the whole class just loved the song. (I was shocked that they did not know who sang it and they have not even recognised him by his voice).
"When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all."
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Reply #85 posted 05/14/07 12:32pm

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Lol@some people

First off: Earth Song is the most dramatic, epic piece of music he ever made.

Second: If invincible being so 'adult' was what put off fans then what's Lost Freaking Children doing on that CD?

And HELL NO to Quincy!
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Reply #86 posted 05/14/07 1:35pm

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dag said:

whatsgoingon said:


The fact of the matter MJ gravitated on his own terms towards a more mainstream audience who love those Heal The World/Earth song/ Childhood type of songs, it's one of the many reasons MJ has lost alot of credibility and it has nothing to do with Quincy.!! Infact it is the albums that were not produced by Q that MJ is at his sappiest. The last time I look songs like Sppechless, Heal The World, Earth song and Childhood were on the albums like Dangerous, History etc. MJ current batch of hardcore fans seem to love those type of songs, it's nothing to do with the public, critics or Quincy; it's more to do with MJ and how he wants to convey his disney image and his fans.

I am sorry, but Heal the world/Eerth song and others are perfect pop songs. Just pop at its best and pop is sappy so, of course, those songs are sappy. I also prefer other MJ songs, other styles, but I can´t say I don´t like these ones and I don´t know why I should not like them. BTW, I happened to play Heal the world today at school to my 12 year old students and the whole class just loved the song. (I was shocked that they did not know who sang it and they have not even recognised him by his voice).


I am not blaming you for liking those kind of songs, Michael is giving fans like you what you want and if you believe that pop and sappy go together fair enough. But it also means that Michael has got sappier as time as gone on. He sounded more sappy age 40 than he did 14. neutral
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Reply #87 posted 05/15/07 6:02am

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dag said:


I am sorry, but Heal the world/Eerth song and others are perfect pop songs. Just pop at its best and pop is sappy so, of course, those songs are sappy. I also prefer other MJ songs, other styles, but I can´t say I don´t like these ones and I don´t know why I should not like them. BTW, I happened to play Heal the world today at school to my 12 year old students and the whole class just loved the song. (I was shocked that they did not know who sang it and they have not even recognised him by his voice).


I am not blaming you for liking those kind of songs, Michael is giving fans like you what you want and if you believe that pop and sappy go together fair enough. But it also means that Michael has got sappier as time as gone on. He sounded more sappy age 40 than he did 14. neutral

I have to agree with you on that one. You Are My Life, Speechless are the sappiest songs ever. It´s too sweet even for me.
But I think that Earth song is a masterpiece.
I do love his ballads, but the more dramatical ones like Stranger in Moscow, Smile, Little Susie and others. Also the "sexy ones" are cool, like Break of dawn, Heaven can wait etc.
And as you said earlier, I don´t think it´s him trying to be mainstream. MJ has always loved melodies and they are very attractive to ppl. A great melody always gets you.
And I don´t think it´s him that much trying to portray some sort of image. He´ll always sing about healing the world and the kids cause he really believes that. I don´t think it´s a pose.
I think that up till Dangerous his music were more about him telling certains stories, but since History, he´s become more personal.

BTW, I was so pleased today. The kids that I played Heal the World to, were asking me in the hall, if we were going to listen to MJ again. I think I´m gonna turn the whole class into his fans soon. lol
"When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all."
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Reply #88 posted 05/15/07 6:53am

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Seven? Seven Even? Dumb spelling, confusing. Can't get excited unless Mike can assure us of no more "media songs" (Privacy, Leave Me Alone etc.), no more "fright songs" (Threatened, Thriller), no more obligatory rock-pop Beat It sequels featuring Slash (or whomever the "hot guitarist" of the day is) and definitely no more epic save the world/children songs. this formula is tired; surrounded by 2-3 overproduced uptempo songs by the "it" hip-hop/R&B producers of the moment. MJ needs more creative song writing and great vocals like on Whatever Happens and Butterflies and a mature producer who will make a cohesive album, not a couple of "hit singles"
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Reply #89 posted 05/15/07 7:01am

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dag said:

whatsgoingon said:



I am not blaming you for liking those kind of songs, Michael is giving fans like you what you want and if you believe that pop and sappy go together fair enough. But it also means that Michael has got sappier as time as gone on. He sounded more sappy age 40 than he did 14. neutral

I have to agree with you on that one. You Are My Life, Speechless are the sappiest songs ever. It´s too sweet even for me.
But I think that Earth song is a masterpiece.
I do love his ballads, but the more dramatical ones like Stranger in Moscow, Smile, Little Susie and others. Also the "sexy ones" are cool, like Break of dawn, Heaven can wait etc.
And as you said earlier, I don´t think it´s him trying to be mainstream. MJ has always loved melodies and they are very attractive to ppl. A great melody always gets you.
And I don´t think it´s him that much trying to portray some sort of image. He´ll always sing about healing the world and the kids cause he really believes that. I don´t think it´s a pose.
I think that up till Dangerous his music were more about him telling certains stories, but since History, he´s become more personal.

BTW, I was so pleased today. The kids that I played Heal the World to, were asking me in the hall, if we were going to listen to MJ again. I think I´m gonna turn the whole class into his fans soon. lol


But there are ballads and there is plain sappy. She's Out of My Life, Lady in My Life and I can't Help it are all wonderful ballads, that are not necessarily sappy. But MJ has gone from those kind of ballads to disney sappyness, that is the difference and I do believe the type of sappy songs he has been doin in the last 16 yrs is tied up with his PeterPan image that he is always trying to convey.
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