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The Wiz I was watching "The Wiz" the other night and realized how much I love that movie (the NYC backdrop is fantastic!), but also how much I really don't like Diana Ross as Dorothy. The next day, I listened to the original Broadway play soundtrack and wondered why they didn't just put Stephanie Mills in the film. She has a waaay better voice than Diana Ross, but of course, Diana was dating Quincy Jones at that time and he did produce the film....anyway, if they re-made the film, what would be a good cast? Honestly, who could fill Micheal's straw-filled scarecrow shoes(because I don't think anyone wants to see a modern day Michael replay the role SPREAD LOVE UNTIL THE SUN'S FINAL RISE--The Duality a.k.a. "WYNTER SKYE" | |
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I always thought Diana was a bit long in the tooth to be dorothy.
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Dorothy= Alicia Keys
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PAPAROBBIE said: Dorothy= Alicia Keys
Evilene= Aretha Franklin Tin Man= Jamie Foxx Scarecrow= Janet Jackson (scarecrows have no gender) Lion = Bernie Mac (he can't sing, but someone else can do the singin') The Wiz= Dave Chapelle The Good Witch= Patti Labelle Toto= Triumph The Insult Comic Dog Lead Flying Monkey= Bobby Brown [Edited 4/30/06 1:45am] You know, I would actually go see that. Great cast list! Let's send this to Hollywood. They've run out of ideas, they need all the help they can get!  | |
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SexyBeautifulOne said: PAPAROBBIE said: Dorothy= Alicia Keys
Evilene= Aretha Franklin Tin Man= Jamie Foxx Scarecrow= Janet Jackson (scarecrows have no gender) Lion = Bernie Mac (he can't sing, but someone else can do the singin') The Wiz= Dave Chapelle The Good Witch= Patti Labelle Toto= Triumph The Insult Comic Dog Lead Flying Monkey= Bobby Brown [Edited 4/30/06 1:45am] You know, I would actually go see that. Great cast list! Let's send this to Hollywood. They've run out of ideas, they need all the help they can get! Hell yeah! | |
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I've been wanting to write the script for the remake for some time now so I've had this cast in my head for about 5 years now:
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StoneCrib said: I've been wanting to write the script for the remake for some time now so I've had this cast in my head for about 5 years now:
Dorothy - Lauryn Hill (Triple threat: rapper, singer, actor) Evilene - Mo'Nique Tin Man - Brian McKnight Scarecrow - Usher Lion - Gerald LeVert The Wiz - Chris Tucker Glenda The Good Witch - Patti LaBelle Miss One - Teena Marie You have to use artists that have also acted. Don't know much about Mo'Nique's singing but it's all good for a V.O. L-Boogie would be the best Dorothy because she can do all 3 and the new The Wiz would have to include some Hip Hop vibe to it for it to be viable for all ages and tastes. Jamie Foxx would be a good Tin Man though, but I don't think he'd do the film. Other than Usher (I've been sick of his MJ impersonation for quite some time) that's a good cast list, too! | |
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SexyBeautifulOne said: StoneCrib said: I've been wanting to write the script for the remake for some time now so I've had this cast in my head for about 5 years now:
Dorothy - Lauryn Hill (Triple threat: rapper, singer, actor) Evilene - Mo'Nique Tin Man - Brian McKnight Scarecrow - Usher Lion - Gerald LeVert The Wiz - Chris Tucker Glenda The Good Witch - Patti LaBelle Miss One - Teena Marie You have to use artists that have also acted. Don't know much about Mo'Nique's singing but it's all good for a V.O. L-Boogie would be the best Dorothy because she can do all 3 and the new The Wiz would have to include some Hip Hop vibe to it for it to be viable for all ages and tastes. Jamie Foxx would be a good Tin Man though, but I don't think he'd do the film. Other than Usher (I've been sick of his MJ impersonation for quite some time) that's a good cast list, too!  Living to die and I'll die to live again - 360 degrees - comprehend | |
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StoneCrib said: I've been wanting to write the script for the remake for some time now so I've had this cast in my head for about 5 years now:
Dorothy - Lauryn Hill (Triple threat: rapper, singer, actor) Evilene - Mo'Nique Tin Man - Brian McKnight Scarecrow - Usher Lion - Gerald LeVert The Wiz - Chris Tucker Glenda The Good Witch - Patti LaBelle Miss One - Teena Marie You have to use artists that have also acted. Don't know much about Mo'Nique's singing but it's all good for a V.O. L-Boogie would be the best Dorothy because she can do all 3 and the new The Wiz would have to include some Hip Hop vibe to it for it to be viable for all ages and tastes. Jamie Foxx would be a good Tin Man though, but I don't think he'd do the film. I'm not sure if McKnight has enough personality to be the tin man.... [Edited 5/1/06 4:16am] | |
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The Wiz is one of my favorite movies for sentimental reasons. I cant imagine anyone but Ms. Ross playing Dorothy in this film. | |
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StoneCrib said: I've been wanting to write the script for the remake for some time now so I've had this cast in my head for about 5 years now:
Dorothy - Lauryn Hill (Triple threat: rapper, singer, actor) Evilene - Mo'Nique Tin Man - Brian McKnight Scarecrow - Usher Lion - Gerald LeVert The Wiz - Chris Tucker Glenda The Good Witch - Patti LaBelle Miss One - Teena Marie You have to use artists that have also acted. Don't know much about Mo'Nique's singing but it's all good for a V.O. L-Boogie would be the best Dorothy because she can do all 3 and the new The Wiz would have to include some Hip Hop vibe to it for it to be viable for all ages and tastes. Jamie Foxx would be a good Tin Man though, but I don't think he'd do the film. no see then it would be called "THE WAZ" Don't forget Midnight Soulstice with DJ Pari and Mr. Felty http://wrir.org This Friday "Dancefloor Jazz" | |
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StoneCrib said: I've been wanting to write the script for the remake for some time now so I've had this cast in my head for about 5 years now:
Dorothy - Lauryn Hill (Triple threat: rapper, singer, actor) Evilene - Mo'Nique Tin Man - Brian McKnight Scarecrow - Usher Lion - Gerald LeVert The Wiz - Chris Tucker Glenda The Good Witch - Patti LaBelle Miss One - Teena Marie You have to use artists that have also acted. Don't know much about Mo'Nique's singing but it's all good for a V.O. L-Boogie would be the best Dorothy because she can do all 3 and the new The Wiz would have to include some Hip Hop vibe to it for it to be viable for all ages and tastes. Jamie Foxx would be a good Tin Man though, but I don't think he'd do the film. That's a good cast. I would replace Usher with Bizzy Bone. Long story for my reason. Trust me he would make a good scarecrow. Tin Man --Martin Lawrence-- because he's so crazy! | |
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At the time Diana was a movie star and Mills wasnt...it was hard enough getting a black film made (well, it still is) let alone a huge and expensive musical without a star. Power tends to corrupt and absolute power corrupts absolutely. | |
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PAPAROBBIE said: StoneCrib said: I've been wanting to write the script for the remake for some time now so I've had this cast in my head for about 5 years now:
Dorothy - Lauryn Hill (Triple threat: rapper, singer, actor) Evilene - Mo'Nique Tin Man - Brian McKnight Scarecrow - Usher Lion - Gerald LeVert The Wiz - Chris Tucker Glenda The Good Witch - Patti LaBelle Miss One - Teena Marie You have to use artists that have also acted. Don't know much about Mo'Nique's singing but it's all good for a V.O. L-Boogie would be the best Dorothy because she can do all 3 and the new The Wiz would have to include some Hip Hop vibe to it for it to be viable for all ages and tastes. Jamie Foxx would be a good Tin Man though, but I don't think he'd do the film. I'm not sure if McKnight has enough personality to be the tin man.... [Edited 5/1/06 4:16am] Yeah, I can see that being a concern, but if some remember, he did have a recurring role in the TV show "Sister Sister" so you never know. Living to die and I'll die to live again - 360 degrees - comprehend | |
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IAintTheOne said: StoneCrib said: I've been wanting to write the script for the remake for some time now so I've had this cast in my head for about 5 years now:
Dorothy - Lauryn Hill (Triple threat: rapper, singer, actor) Evilene - Mo'Nique Tin Man - Brian McKnight Scarecrow - Usher Lion - Gerald LeVert The Wiz - Chris Tucker Glenda The Good Witch - Patti LaBelle Miss One - Teena Marie You have to use artists that have also acted. Don't know much about Mo'Nique's singing but it's all good for a V.O. L-Boogie would be the best Dorothy because she can do all 3 and the new The Wiz would have to include some Hip Hop vibe to it for it to be viable for all ages and tastes. Jamie Foxx would be a good Tin Man though, but I don't think he'd do the film. no see then it would be called "THE WAZ" ? LOL! Huh? Living to die and I'll die to live again - 360 degrees - comprehend | |
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RosesRred said: StoneCrib said: I've been wanting to write the script for the remake for some time now so I've had this cast in my head for about 5 years now:
Dorothy - Lauryn Hill (Triple threat: rapper, singer, actor) Evilene - Mo'Nique Tin Man - Brian McKnight Scarecrow - Usher Lion - Gerald LeVert The Wiz - Chris Tucker Glenda The Good Witch - Patti LaBelle Miss One - Teena Marie You have to use artists that have also acted. Don't know much about Mo'Nique's singing but it's all good for a V.O. L-Boogie would be the best Dorothy because she can do all 3 and the new The Wiz would have to include some Hip Hop vibe to it for it to be viable for all ages and tastes. Jamie Foxx would be a good Tin Man though, but I don't think he'd do the film. That's a good cast. I would replace Usher with Bizzy Bone. Long story for my reason. Trust me he would make a good scarecrow. Tin Man --Martin Lawrence-- because he's so crazy! 
And you gotta remember they're gonna have to be able to sing, so Martin would be a bad choice. Living to die and I'll die to live again - 360 degrees - comprehend | |
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StoneCrib said: IAintTheOne said: no see then it would be called "THE WAZ" ? LOL! Huh? lol ya feel me? Don't forget Midnight Soulstice with DJ Pari and Mr. Felty http://wrir.org This Friday "Dancefloor Jazz" | |
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This film has become almost like a cult film, considering at the time of it's release it was savaged by the critics.
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StoneCrib said: I've been wanting to write the script for the remake for some time now so I've had this cast in my head for about 5 years now:
Dorothy - Lauryn Hill (Triple threat: rapper, singer, actor) Evilene - Mo'Nique Tin Man - Brian McKnight Scarecrow - Usher Lion - Gerald LeVert The Wiz - Chris Tucker Glenda The Good Witch - Patti LaBelle Miss One - Teena Marie You have to use artists that have also acted. Don't know much about Mo'Nique's singing but it's all good for a V.O. L-Boogie would be the best Dorothy because she can do all 3 and the new The Wiz would have to include some Hip Hop vibe to it for it to be viable for all ages and tastes. Jamie Foxx would be a good Tin Man though, but I don't think he'd do the film. DAMN, I dig your cast but you're killin' me w/ Brian McKnight  How about swapping him out for Tyrese or somebody | |
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The Wiz always annoyed me for some reason... "Who gonna check me boo?" 
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PAPAROBBIE said: Dorothy= Alicia Keys
Evilene= Aretha Franklin Tin Man= Jamie Foxx Scarecrow= Janet Jackson (scarecrows have no gender) Lion = Bernie Mac (he can't sing, but someone else can do the singin') The Wiz= Dave ChapelleThe Good Witch= Patti Labelle Toto= Triumph The Insult Comic DogLead Flying Monkey= Bobby Brown [Edited 4/30/06 1:45am]  your casting is quite hilarious!!! why does Aretha have to be the evil witch and Patti the good witch? are you implying something... i always would envision Tina Turner to be the evil witch, since she was the evil queen in that Mad Max movie....[Edited 5/2/06 5:49am] "Who gonna check me boo?"
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missfee said: PAPAROBBIE said: Dorothy= Alicia Keys
Evilene= Aretha Franklin Tin Man= Jamie Foxx Scarecrow= Janet Jackson (scarecrows have no gender) Lion = Bernie Mac (he can't sing, but someone else can do the singin') The Wiz= Dave ChapelleThe Good Witch= Patti Labelle Toto= Triumph The Insult Comic DogLead Flying Monkey= Bobby Brown [Edited 4/30/06 1:45am] your casting is quite hilarious!!! why does Aretha have to be the evil witch and Patti the good witch? are you implying something... i always would envision Tina Turner to be the evil witch, since she was the evil queen in that Mad Max movie....
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whatsgoingon said: This film has become almost like a cult film, considering at the time of it's release it was savaged by the critics.
I've always felt what spoilt the film was Diana Ross protrayal has Dorothy. Even though Stephanie Mills was not as well known as Diana at the time she wasn't exactly a nobody either and she should have taken the role. Or,at the very least,they could have gotten a young actress to play the role,to make it a little more convincing.If they didn't think Stephanie was suitable,how about Irene Cara? | |
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DavidEye said: whatsgoingon said: This film has become almost like a cult film, considering at the time of it's release it was savaged by the critics.
I've always felt what spoilt the film was Diana Ross protrayal has Dorothy. Even though Stephanie Mills was not as well known as Diana at the time she wasn't exactly a nobody either and she should have taken the role. Or,at the very least,they could have gotten a young actress to play the role,to make it a little more convincing.If they didn't think Stephanie was suitable,how about Irene Cara? folks...mills was a nobody...cara was a nobody...they needed a bankable actress and supposedly Ross was the only bankable black actress at that time...and even her career crash and burned after The Wiz...its hard getting black films made today so think about how hard it was in the late 70's. Ross was a superstar back in the day. Sure she was miscast. But in return we got a big budget black musical...Isnt it the only big budget black musical ever made? So it took an older actress with star power to get the thing made... and its not like they tried to pass her off as a kid (like the play does)...they set the premise up well by making her a teacher. Power tends to corrupt and absolute power corrupts absolutely. | |
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sosgemini said: DavidEye said: Or,at the very least,they could have gotten a young actress to play the role,to make it a little more convincing.If they didn't think Stephanie was suitable,how about Irene Cara? folks...mills was a nobody...cara was a nobody...they needed a bankable actress and supposedly Ross was the only bankable black actress at that time...and even her career crash and burned after The Wiz...its hard getting black films made today so think about how hard it was in the late 70's. Ross was a superstar back in the day. Sure she was miscast. But in return we got a big budget black musical...Isnt it the only big budget black musical ever made? So it took an older actress with star power to get the thing made... and its not like they tried to pass her off as a kid (like the play does)...they set the premise up well by making her a teacher. a Nobody?... Stephanie Mills was the first to star in the Musical Broadway play of the Wiz in 1970 and Irene Cara who played on "The Electric company" in the early 70's they were definately Not nobody's so, do a lilttle more research,stick around and maybe you'll learn something. Don't forget Midnight Soulstice with DJ Pari and Mr. Felty http://wrir.org This Friday "Dancefloor Jazz" | |
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StoneCrib said: RosesRred said: That's a good cast. I would replace Usher with Bizzy Bone. Long story for my reason. Trust me he would make a good scarecrow. Tin Man --Martin Lawrence-- because he's so crazy!
And you gotta remember they're gonna have to be able to sing, so Martin would be a bad choice. Bizzy can sing and rap. Martin would be like Nispey Russell, Nipsey's singing wasn't too hot but he played it off though. "Slide some oil to me" was the song Nispey performed by himself. If you call that singing..hurry get me a record deal now!!!!!  I have a nice voice though.  | |
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IAintTheOne said: sosgemini said: folks...mills was a nobody...cara was a nobody...they needed a bankable actress and supposedly Ross was the only bankable black actress at that time...and even her career crash and burned after The Wiz...its hard getting black films made today so think about how hard it was in the late 70's. Ross was a superstar back in the day. Sure she was miscast. But in return we got a big budget black musical...Isnt it the only big budget black musical ever made? So it took an older actress with star power to get the thing made... and its not like they tried to pass her off as a kid (like the play does)...they set the premise up well by making her a teacher. a Nobody?... Stephanie Mills was the first to star in the Musical Broadway play of the Wiz in 1970 and Irene Cara who played on "The Electric company" in the early 70's they were definately Not nobody's so, do a lilttle more research,stick around and maybe you'll learn something. being on broadway and being on electric company does not make one a star. based on your assesment Vivan Nixon (Broadway Actress) and Christine McGlade (Moose from You Cant Do That On Television) are stars ehh? Lets try to maintain a level of perspective here...compared to Ross, Cara and Mills were nobodies. Sure they had a nitch market but nationally, they were nobodies. Sure a few years later Cara would garner a lil bit of stardom but never anything that would make her bankable or open a film.. and keep your "stick around and learn something" 'tude to yourself please.... Power tends to corrupt and absolute power corrupts absolutely. | |
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sosgemini said: IAintTheOne said: a Nobody?... Stephanie Mills was the first to star in the Musical Broadway play of the Wiz in 1970 and Irene Cara who played on "The Electric company" in the early 70's they were definately Not nobody's so, do a lilttle more research,stick around and maybe you'll learn something. being on broadway and being on electric company does not make one a star. based on your assesment Vivan Nixon (Broadway Actress) and Christine McGlade (Moose from You Cant Do That On Television) are stars ehh? Lets try to maintain a level of perspective here...compared to Ross, Cara and Mills were nobodies. Sure they had a nitch market but nationally, they were nobodies. Sure a few years later Cara would garner a lil bit of stardom but never anything that would make her bankable or open a film.. and keep your "stick around and learn something" 'tude to yourself please.... all this drama over "The Wiz".... [Edited 5/2/06 7:36am] "Who gonna check me boo?"
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IAintTheOne said: StoneCrib said: ? LOL! Huh? lol ya feel me? Grrrrr! LOL! Living to die and I'll die to live again - 360 degrees - comprehend | |
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CalhounSq said: StoneCrib said: I've been wanting to write the script for the remake for some time now so I've had this cast in my head for about 5 years now:
Dorothy - Lauryn Hill (Triple threat: rapper, singer, actor) Evilene - Mo'Nique Tin Man - Brian McKnight Scarecrow - Usher Lion - Gerald LeVert The Wiz - Chris Tucker Glenda The Good Witch - Patti LaBelle Miss One - Teena Marie You have to use artists that have also acted. Don't know much about Mo'Nique's singing but it's all good for a V.O. L-Boogie would be the best Dorothy because she can do all 3 and the new The Wiz would have to include some Hip Hop vibe to it for it to be viable for all ages and tastes. Jamie Foxx would be a good Tin Man though, but I don't think he'd do the film. DAMN, I dig your cast but you're killin' me w/ Brian McKnight How about swapping him out for Tyrese or somebody Ok, dang! Tyrese then! LOL! Living to die and I'll die to live again - 360 degrees - comprehend | |
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), Nipsy Russell's tin man, Ted Ross' lovable lion, or even the late great Richard Pryor's small but very out of the norm performance as the Wiz. Any ideas on a great new cast to revive this masterpiece?
especially when Lena Horne couldn't cut her song off and kept prolonging it....i dunno maybe it was the costumes...something about the movie i just can't get with.