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Reply #30 posted 04/07/05 6:30pm

VoicesCarry

sosgemini said:

RaneStarr said:



It's so hillarious how Americans are so clueless about the Latin community.
Ricky Martin has been in the business for almost 30 years you ass. You think he's an overnight sensation cuz they made him do a bubble gum crappy album in English. His English album does not define Ricky Martin 30 year career. Bono doesn't have the target audience market Ricky has world wide, and he hasn't been around longer than Ricky either... That's how much you know...


your right, being that i am part of that latin community..silly me!! your right, without countering any of my comments im just going to assume your right because welll...us americans are clueless...

dude, calm down.....i stand by my statements....fyi: [name calling such as "you ass" is against site rules...dont do it again- sos]


Like it or not, she had a huge following within the Latin community, and a major career in that sector. A lack of mainstream success does not mean you don't have a career. If she had lived just 2 more years, I think she would have made the transition to the English market with ease, anyway.
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Reply #31 posted 04/07/05 6:58pm

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VoicesCarry said:

sosgemini said:



your right, being that i am part of that latin community..silly me!! your right, without countering any of my comments im just going to assume your right because welll...us americans are clueless...

dude, calm down.....i stand by my statements....fyi: [name calling such as "you ass" is against site rules...dont do it again- sos]


Like it or not, she had a huge following within the Latin community, and a major career in that sector. A lack of mainstream success does not mean you don't have a career. If she had lived just 2 more years, I think she would have made the transition to the English market with ease, anyway.



like it or not? what statements of mine are in opposition to your own? i simply stated that she *finally* achieved mainstream success after death...
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Reply #32 posted 04/07/05 7:01pm

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sosgemini said:




unlike Aaliyah, Selena hadnt earned the mainstream attention that she now does in death.....

i must say thought that I dont think Ailiyah would have this cult about her if she hadnt died either....She made quality music (if your into it) but she seemed to lack that "superstar" quality that you need to endure throughout the years.....ya know, that quality that seperates the Ricky Martins from the Bonos of our entertainment universe. wink


I completely disagree. You know all the Aaliyah knockoffs we've had to suffer through after her death - Ashanti, Amerie, etc? There's a reason for that. I remember listening to her eponymous 2001 album, and thinking this is the first modern R&B album I've liked in a long, long time. It didn't sound like the shit on the radio, which is probably why it wasn't played - even death couldn't give her a top 10 hit or a Grammy. Personally, I think there was a definite spark there, and she had the vocal chops and a certain personal quality that make a true star as opposed to a manufactured one (ex. J.Lo). Her last album was among the best of 2001. I think she could have succeeded Janet as R&B's resident princess, so to speak. All she needed was that one big break. JMHO.
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yeah, and sadly we will never know what could have been...
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Reply #33 posted 04/07/05 7:03pm

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RaneStarr said:



It's so hillarious how Americans are so clueless about the Latin community.
Ricky Martin has been in the business for almost 30 years you ass. You think he's an overnight sensation cuz they made him do a bubble gum crappy album in English. His English album does not define Ricky Martin 30 year career. Bono doesn't have the target audience market Ricky has world wide, and he hasn't been around longer than Ricky either... That's how much you know...


your right, being that i am part of that latin community..silly me!! your right, without countering any of my comments im just going to assume your right because welll...us americans are clueless...

dude, calm down.....i stand by my statements....fyi: [name calling such as "you ass" is against site rules...dont do it again- sos]



why don't you do ur JOB and snip the asses that make rude comments looking to make ppl flame them instead of snipping my comments. and ur stupid lil comments should not be inserted in posts anyway, ur a moderator ur suppose 2 stay neutral and moderate, dumb ASS.
Aka Symbolina, PrimeraDama, ChristianSinner, and god only knows what other nics eye've had wink
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Reply #34 posted 04/07/05 7:06pm

VoicesCarry

sosgemini said:

VoicesCarry said:



Like it or not, she had a huge following within the Latin community, and a major career in that sector. A lack of mainstream success does not mean you don't have a career. If she had lived just 2 more years, I think she would have made the transition to the English market with ease, anyway.



like it or not? what statements of mine are in opposition to your own? i simply stated that she *finally* achieved mainstream success after death...


Your first statement: that her death was a career maker wink
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Reply #35 posted 04/07/05 7:20pm

RipHer2Shreds

Tom said:

I'm a little bit confused why there was so much hype over her. Her songs were nice, and she seemed like a nice person, but it was nothing mind-bending to me.

There's truth in this. Her music was nothing earth-shattering. But her core audience loved it. In the end, I think it was what she had the potential of becoming. Mind you, she was only 23 when she died. For all intents and purposes, her career was just starting.
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Reply #36 posted 04/07/05 7:21pm

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sosgemini said:



your right, being that i am part of that latin community..silly me!! your right, without countering any of my comments im just going to assume your right because welll...us americans are clueless...

dude, calm down.....i stand by my statements....fyi: [name calling such as "you ass" is against site rules...dont do it again- sos]



why don't you do ur JOB and snip the asses that make rude comments looking to make ppl flame them instead of snipping my comments. and ur stupid lil comments should not be inserted in posts anyway, ur a moderator ur suppose 2 stay neutral and moderate, dumb ASS.


disbelief i warned you....fyi: just because somebody disagrees with your opinion doesnt make it rude.....look at your responces and then check out voicescarry's.....theres a way to handle your business and a way not to. and yes, i inserted comments cause i was trying to help you better understand site rules..stop taking this stuff personal. take a couple days off and hopefully you will get the point of what i am getting at.....now, its almost the weekend...hope to see you here next week in a better mood.
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Reply #37 posted 04/07/05 7:22pm

RipHer2Shreds

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Yes, she was mostly popular among the Spanish-speaking population of the USA. I don't know if this is the case with Sassy, but a lot of people don't realize that she was a US citizen and English was her first language.

As I said in a different thread, there's no doubt in my mind that she would have eventually become a pop star in her own right even if she'd not died. I don't know that it would have happened right away, but I think a comment like "dying was the best thing that happened to her career," be it intentional or not, negates the fact that she achieved her success through talent and talent alone.

Certainly her death was a factor in the success of her first English-language album, but it would have happened sooner or later regardless. That album wasn't a great one, though it showed the potential of a pop star in the making. She had a pure and beautiful voice, was a good dancer, and - most importantly for a pop star - was incredibly charismatic, likeable and beautiful.


In fact, English was her ONLY language until she was in her late teens. She had to learn to speak Spanish to communicate with her fans.

nod You are correct. Thanks for clarifying my statement. wink
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Reply #38 posted 04/07/05 7:26pm

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VoicesCarry said:

sosgemini said:




like it or not? what statements of mine are in opposition to your own? i simply stated that she *finally* achieved mainstream success after death...


Your first statement: that her death was a career maker wink
[Edited 4/7/05 19:06pm]



well, from the perspective that mainstream popdome cares to celebrate in the fashion they are with this celebration, yes.

you dont see big wigs like gloria estefan coming out for no luis megal or that fine hunk hunk hernandez guy....

oh wait, im not supposed to know about these folks arent i.. wink
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Reply #39 posted 04/07/05 8:09pm

VoicesCarry

sosgemini said:

RaneStarr said:




why don't you do ur JOB and snip the asses that make rude comments looking to make ppl flame them instead of snipping my comments. and ur stupid lil comments should not be inserted in posts anyway, ur a moderator ur suppose 2 stay neutral and moderate, dumb ASS.


disbelief i warned you....fyi: just because somebody disagrees with your opinion doesnt make it rude.....look at your responces and then check out voicescarry's.....theres a way to handle your business and a way not to. and yes, i inserted comments cause i was trying to help you better understand site rules..stop taking this stuff personal. take a couple days off and hopefully you will get the point of what i am getting at.....now, its almost the weekend...hope to see you here next week in a better mood.



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Reply #40 posted 04/07/05 9:03pm

SassyBritches

VoicesCarry said:

SassyBritches said:


thank you for the correction thumbs up!


She had gold albums and sold out the Houston Astrodome in record time - you've yet to tell me how that was not a career. You only have a career if you crack the English market? confused

instead of asking me you should just ask all the stars of other countries why they keep hoping to make it here. you haven't become a superstar until you've made it in the us. i didn't make the rules, i'm just sayin' how it is in reality.

i hear this whole "selena was huge in the latin world"...ok. was she big in any english speaking markets before her death? did most of the world know who she was before she was killed? was there plans for a movie before she died? did her record sales sky rocket before she was killed?

i still stand by my remark that her death made her career.
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Reply #41 posted 04/07/05 9:14pm

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VoicesCarry said:



She had gold albums and sold out the Houston Astrodome in record time - you've yet to tell me how that was not a career. You only have a career if you crack the English market? confused

instead of asking me you should just ask all the stars of other countries why they keep hoping to make it here. you haven't become a superstar until you've made it in the us. i didn't make the rules, i'm just sayin' how it is in reality.

i hear this whole "selena was huge in the latin world"...ok. was she big in any english speaking markets before her death? did most of the world know who she was before she was killed? was there plans for a movie before she died? did her record sales sky rocket before she was killed?

i still stand by my remark that her death made her career.



and this will go down in org history as the first time i and sassy have ever agreed...


example of mentioned phenom:

Robbie Willams who seems hellbent on making it in the states...
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Reply #42 posted 04/07/05 9:17pm

SassyBritches

sosgemini said:

SassyBritches said:


instead of asking me you should just ask all the stars of other countries why they keep hoping to make it here. you haven't become a superstar until you've made it in the us. i didn't make the rules, i'm just sayin' how it is in reality.

i hear this whole "selena was huge in the latin world"...ok. was she big in any english speaking markets before her death? did most of the world know who she was before she was killed? was there plans for a movie before she died? did her record sales sky rocket before she was killed?

i still stand by my remark that her death made her career.



and this will go down in org history as the first time i and sassy have ever agreed...


example of mentioned phenom:

Robbie Willams who seems hellbent on making it in the states...

stranger things have happened...i think...

oh, and add kylie to that list of people who really, really, really want to make it in the states (and i wish she would!).
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Reply #43 posted 04/08/05 1:10am

Chico319

Anyway..... lol


About the show;





Jennifer Lopez opened the show via video. I thought she looked great drool !!! Thalìa's vocals were so weak...and to open the show?!?!?! Disappointing. She was really good when I saw her live. With her performance as throught the show, it appeared everyone was having technical difficulties with their mic. confused Bobby Pullido's had one of the better performances of the night. Did anyone catch the profile??? whistling
Alejandra Guzmàn doing "Bidi Bidi Bom Bom"... lol Crazy as usual. Though the performance was decent, I didn't think that song suited her.
My girl INDIA worship only one word... VOICE!!! She gives me a chill everytime she sings. La Gloria worship Did a "If I Could Fall In Love". Ooooh.. Fey and Alex Syntek did a great updated dance version of "Donde Quiere Que Estes" (which Selena originally did with Los Barrio Boys) but... They lip sanc it...and messed up more than once. disbelief Pathetic...and disrespectful in my opinion. Especially with her family sitting front and center. But I really loved thir cover. Olga Tañon, who sang "El Chico Del Apartamento 512, seemed like she was more into the guys on stage dancing behind her than the song lol. Her mic was f*cked at the begining of the song too. sad A.B.'s tribute at the end was done a'la Natalie & Nat King Cole's "Unforgettable". With her Chris Perez (Selena's widower) on guitar. Over all the show was pretty cool. Some should've polished up a bit more...or a lot more. The closing song "Como La Flor" rose was perfect... Showing Selena's last performance at the AstroDome; with all the night's performers and all the little girls coming on to sing as back up. Anyone else notice how Thalìa was on one side with Ana Gabriel, Olga Tañon, and Alejandra Guzman, while Paulina Rubìo was on the other side with Gloria Estefan?? lol Who's the bigger 'diva' hmmm Anyway - The kept focusing on her mom's face....that was heart wrenching. They broke record for attendance as well. It was cool to see so many celebrities, superstars, and icons show up and pay their respects a young woman who wether was on the verge of, was and now and forever will be, an icon herself! heart pray rose






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Reply #44 posted 04/08/05 4:23am

RipHer2Shreds

SassyBritches said:

VoicesCarry said:



She had gold albums and sold out the Houston Astrodome in record time - you've yet to tell me how that was not a career. You only have a career if you crack the English market? confused

instead of asking me you should just ask all the stars of other countries why they keep hoping to make it here. you haven't become a superstar until you've made it in the us. i didn't make the rules, i'm just sayin' how it is in reality.

i hear this whole "selena was huge in the latin world"...ok. was she big in any english speaking markets before her death? did most of the world know who she was before she was killed? was there plans for a movie before she died? did her record sales sky rocket before she was killed?

i still stand by my remark that her death made her career.

In English, this translates to "I didn't know who she was, so she wasn't famous."
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Reply #45 posted 04/08/05 5:38am

SassyBritches

RipHer2Shreds said:

SassyBritches said:


instead of asking me you should just ask all the stars of other countries why they keep hoping to make it here. you haven't become a superstar until you've made it in the us. i didn't make the rules, i'm just sayin' how it is in reality.

i hear this whole "selena was huge in the latin world"...ok. was she big in any english speaking markets before her death? did most of the world know who she was before she was killed? was there plans for a movie before she died? did her record sales sky rocket before she was killed?

i still stand by my remark that her death made her career.

In English, this translates to "I didn't know who she was, so she wasn't famous."

actually, in english it translates to:

"i hear this whole "selena was huge in the latin world"...ok. was she big in any english speaking markets before her death? did most of the world know who she was before she was killed? was there plans for a movie before she died? did her record sales sky rocket before she was killed?"
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Reply #46 posted 04/08/05 5:44am

RipHer2Shreds

SassyBritches said:

RipHer2Shreds said:


In English, this translates to "I didn't know who she was, so she wasn't famous."

actually, in english it translates to:

"i hear this whole "selena was huge in the latin world"...ok. was she big in any english speaking markets before her death? did most of the world know who she was before she was killed? was there plans for a movie before she died? did her record sales sky rocket before she was killed?"

Before she died she sold millions of records, had her own popular clothing line, bought her own house (and one for her parents), won a Grammy, was a millionaire, sold out concerts. I'm not sure what more you want. She was popular enough in the US when she died that People magazine ran (in the United States) its first ever Spanish-language edition that needed to be re-printed six times to meet the demand.

You said, "you haven't become a superstar until you've made it in the us." Well, she was popular in the US. Not so much to the English-speaking population of the US, but she was indeed very popular. The whole notion that somebody isn't famous enough until they've become famous in the United States is a ridiculous, nationalistic notion. Most people in the United States couldn't give a flip about David Beckham, but he's a worldwide phenomenon. I guess he's not a superstar either.
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Reply #47 posted 04/08/05 6:09am

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Didn't she sing a duet with David Byrne?
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Reply #48 posted 04/08/05 6:26am

VoicesCarry

RipHer2Shreds said:

SassyBritches said:


actually, in english it translates to:

"i hear this whole "selena was huge in the latin world"...ok. was she big in any english speaking markets before her death? did most of the world know who she was before she was killed? was there plans for a movie before she died? did her record sales sky rocket before she was killed?"

Before she died she sold millions of records, had her own popular clothing line, bought her own house (and one for her parents), won a Grammy, was a millionaire, sold out concerts. I'm not sure what more you want. She was popular enough in the US when she died that People magazine ran (in the United States) its first ever Spanish-language edition that needed to be re-printed six times to meet the demand.

You said, "you haven't become a superstar until you've made it in the us." Well, she was popular in the US. Not so much to the English-speaking population of the US, but she was indeed very popular. The whole notion that somebody isn't famous enough until they've become famous in the United States is a ridiculous, nationalistic notion. Most people in the United States couldn't give a flip about David Beckham, but he's a worldwide phenomenon. I guess he's not a superstar either.
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I guess Kylie doesn't have a career, either. Or Robbie Williams. Must be news to them!
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Reply #49 posted 04/08/05 7:00am

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Before Selena's death, I lived in the Chicago area, and she was a star then. Her music - both Spanish and English - was played on one of the more popular radio stations. Even today, her music is played on that station - B96.

Last year I moved to the Rio Grande Valley in Texas. When you see Texas on the map, look all the way south. Here Selena is still a big deal. I can't imagine what it was like when she was alive and right after her death.
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Reply #50 posted 04/08/05 7:05am

TheRealFiness

Selena was a beautiful woman, and a fantastic talent, with the voice of an angel.she touched so many people and even after her tragic and sensless murder, she still continues to live through the music.

Fly on Selena..
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Reply #51 posted 04/08/05 8:17am

SassyBritches

VoicesCarry said:

RipHer2Shreds said:


Before she died she sold millions of records, had her own popular clothing line, bought her own house (and one for her parents), won a Grammy, was a millionaire, sold out concerts. I'm not sure what more you want. She was popular enough in the US when she died that People magazine ran (in the United States) its first ever Spanish-language edition that needed to be re-printed six times to meet the demand.

You said, "you haven't become a superstar until you've made it in the us." Well, she was popular in the US. Not so much to the English-speaking population of the US, but she was indeed very popular. The whole notion that somebody isn't famous enough until they've become famous in the United States is a ridiculous, nationalistic notion. Most people in the United States couldn't give a flip about David Beckham, but he's a worldwide phenomenon. I guess he's not a superstar either.
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I guess Kylie doesn't have a career, either. Or Robbie Williams. Must be news to them!

in the us? no, they don't. none of my friends (outside the gay peeps) know that kylie released anything after her 80's locomotion hit. and robbie...who the hell knows who he is in the us?

i'm not disputing selena's success with the spanish speaking audience; when i lived in miami, everyone knew who she was. i'm saying that the general american audience...white, top 40 radio listeners...didn't know who the hell she was until she died. when was selena's last tour date in tennessee, denver, omaha?

and by the way, everyone i know (straight or gay, majority or minority) does know who beckham is...he's in every gossip rag across the country. the fact that people magazine had to run its "first spanish language edition" for her is precisely my point. after the excitement began, they could then publish many, many english language articles about her but in the beginning it needed to be in spanish because the majority of their readers didn't know who the heck she was.
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Reply #52 posted 04/08/05 8:30am

VoicesCarry

SassyBritches said:

VoicesCarry said:



I guess Kylie doesn't have a career, either. Or Robbie Williams. Must be news to them!

in the us? no, they don't. none of my friends (outside the gay peeps) know that kylie released anything after her 80's locomotion hit. and robbie...who the hell knows who he is in the us?

i'm not disputing selena's success with the spanish speaking audience; when i lived in miami, everyone knew who she was. i'm saying that the general american audience...white, top 40 radio listeners...didn't know who the hell she was until she died. when was selena's last tour date in tennessee, denver, omaha?

and by the way, everyone i know (straight or gay, majority or minority) does know who beckham is...he's in every gossip rag across the country. the fact that people magazine had to run its "first spanish language edition" for her is precisely my point. after the excitement began, they could then publish many, many english language articles about her but in the beginning it needed to be in spanish because the majority of their readers didn't know who the heck she was.


So now it comes down to a magazine? The bottom line is, you claimed she didn't have a career/wasn't a star before she died - in fact, like everyone else here has pointed out, she did, and she was. Whether or not she was a household name with white yuppies in NYC has no bearing on that. lol

The English- and Spanish-language Selena editions were issued at the same time. The Spanish-language cover sold out 6 printings, and the Spanish-language People was founded as a result. Cool, huh?
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Reply #53 posted 04/08/05 8:38am

SassyBritches

VoicesCarry said:

SassyBritches said:


in the us? no, they don't. none of my friends (outside the gay peeps) know that kylie released anything after her 80's locomotion hit. and robbie...who the hell knows who he is in the us?

i'm not disputing selena's success with the spanish speaking audience; when i lived in miami, everyone knew who she was. i'm saying that the general american audience...white, top 40 radio listeners...didn't know who the hell she was until she died. when was selena's last tour date in tennessee, denver, omaha?

and by the way, everyone i know (straight or gay, majority or minority) does know who beckham is...he's in every gossip rag across the country. the fact that people magazine had to run its "first spanish language edition" for her is precisely my point. after the excitement began, they could then publish many, many english language articles about her but in the beginning it needed to be in spanish because the majority of their readers didn't know who the heck she was.


So now it comes down to a magazine? The bottom line is, you claimed she didn't have a career/wasn't a star before she died - in fact, like everyone else here has pointed out, she did, and she was. Whether or not she was a household name with white yuppies in NYC has no bearing on that. lol

The English- and Spanish-language Selena editions were issued at the same time. The Spanish-language cover sold out 6 printings, and the Spanish-language People was founded as a result. Cool, huh?
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i think its great that "people" realized they could make a spanish edition of their mgazine. nothing anyone has said on this thread has demonstrated that selena was a star in the us. would she have become as big as britney, christina, or j. lo? maybe. maybe not. either way, she became far more famous after her death. everybody loves a tragedy. was she big enough that a movie would have been made about selena had she not been killed?

anyway, we can go round and round on this but i'm just not even interested in the thread anymore, lol.
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Reply #54 posted 04/08/05 8:43am

VoicesCarry

SassyBritches said:

VoicesCarry said:



So now it comes down to a magazine? The bottom line is, you claimed she didn't have a career/wasn't a star before she died - in fact, like everyone else here has pointed out, she did, and she was. Whether or not she was a household name with white yuppies in NYC has no bearing on that. lol

The English- and Spanish-language Selena editions were issued at the same time. The Spanish-language cover sold out 6 printings, and the Spanish-language People was founded as a result. Cool, huh?
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i think its great that "people" realized they could make a spanish edition of their mgazine. nothing anyone has said on this thread has demonstrated that selena was a star in the us. would she have become as big as britney, christina, or j. lo? maybe. maybe not. either way, she became far more famous after her death. everybody loves a tragedy. was she big enough that a movie would have been made about selena had she not been killed?

anyway, we can go round and round on this but i'm just not even interested in the thread anymore, lol.


Other than that she had sold-out tours and sold millions of records before her death?

I guess I'm just amused by the "If they're not a STAR in my part of the U.S., they're not a STAR anywhere" attitude. Where'd that come from? There's a whole other world out there, and there's even other cultural groups with their own trends. Latins everywhere know who Celia Cruz is, even though she's not well-known in the U.S. She's still a star.
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Reply #55 posted 04/08/05 8:57am

RipHer2Shreds

VoicesCarry said:

SassyBritches said:


i think its great that "people" realized they could make a spanish edition of their mgazine. nothing anyone has said on this thread has demonstrated that selena was a star in the us. would she have become as big as britney, christina, or j. lo? maybe. maybe not. either way, she became far more famous after her death. everybody loves a tragedy. was she big enough that a movie would have been made about selena had she not been killed?

anyway, we can go round and round on this but i'm just not even interested in the thread anymore, lol.


Other than that she had sold-out tours and sold millions of records before her death?

I guess I'm just amused by the "If they're not a STAR in my part of the U.S., they're not a STAR anywhere" attitude. Where'd that come from? There's a whole other world out there, and there's even other cultural groups with their own trends. Latins everywhere know who Celia Cruz is, even though she's not well-known in the U.S. She's still a star.
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That's exactly what he's saying. "white, top 40 radio listeners." If white people don't know it, it's not popular.
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Reply #56 posted 04/08/05 8:58am

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VoicesCarry said:



So now it comes down to a magazine? The bottom line is, you claimed she didn't have a career/wasn't a star before she died - in fact, like everyone else here has pointed out, she did, and she was. Whether or not she was a household name with white yuppies in NYC has no bearing on that. lol

The English- and Spanish-language Selena editions were issued at the same time. The Spanish-language cover sold out 6 printings, and the Spanish-language People was founded as a result. Cool, huh?
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i think its great that "people" realized they could make a spanish edition of their mgazine. nothing anyone has said on this thread has demonstrated that selena was a star in the us. would she have become as big as britney, christina, or j. lo? maybe. maybe not. either way, she became far more famous after her death. everybody loves a tragedy. was she big enough that a movie would have been made about selena had she not been killed?

anyway, we can go round and round on this but i'm just not even interested in the thread anymore, lol.


Ummm...you do realize that Selena lived in the United States, and that Tejano music (the music she sang and was famous for ) originated in Central and South Texas- also in the U.S. So how was she not a "star" in the U.S.?

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Reply #57 posted 04/08/05 9:23am

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Redayn.....Sassy is talking about the us mainstream pop market....



and i think peoples love for the dead SELEN-A has left this an impossible issue to discuss.....

and its sorta tacky for us all to come on here and point out the reality of her career anyways....this is a thread to celebrate the woman and her life.....


SO GO SELENA!!!

your mediocre body of work lives on!!

VIVA SELENA!! wink
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Reply #58 posted 04/08/05 9:47am

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sosgemini said:

Redayn.....Sassy is talking about the us mainstream pop market....


and i think peoples love for the dead SELEN-A has left this an impossible issue to discuss.....

and its sorta tacky for us all to come on here and point out the reality of her career anyways....this is a thread to celebrate the woman and her life.....


SO GO SELENA!!!

your mediocre body of work lives on!!

VIVA SELENA!! wink

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Reply #59 posted 04/08/05 4:32pm

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what a double-edged sword Selena's death turned out to be for her. the one thing that made her famous is the only thing keeping her from cashing in on it sad
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