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Misc. Essays/Interview

It's always interesting to me the side-street things I stumble into when searching for info on a specific subject.

Case in point. While hunting down some info on Black Rock, these links came up...

white boys rappin and rockin: the brand new minstrel show
http://hobartpulp.com/ess...strel.html
An essay on the rap/rock phenomenom

The True Life Confessions of Fleetwood Mac
http://www.fmlegacy.com/a...rs235.html
A post-Rumours pre-Tusk interview.
I believe this link came up based on a comment by Christine McVie concerning former Mac guitarist Peter Green.
See if you can pick it out. If you do, i'm curious what you think about it.

Black Sound, Black Body: Jimi Hendrix, the Electric Guitar, and the Meanings of Blackness
http://www.the-makers.com...-2003.html
A general essay on the effect Jimi Hendrix had on guitar playing, the black community and what "black music" really means.

WARNING: All of these items are relatively long. reading
So if you've got a short attention span or it's hard for you to sit still...nutty...you'd better back away from this thread now.

Otherwise, enjoy. cool

tA

peace Tribal Disorder

http://www.soundclick.com...rmusic.htm
[Edited 1/30/05 11:52am]
"Ya see, we're not interested in what you know...but what you are willing to learn. C'mon y'all."
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Reply #1 posted 01/29/05 3:40pm

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theAudience said:

It's always interesting to me the side-street things I stumble into when searching for info on a specific subject.

Case in point. While hunting down some info on Black Rock, these links came up...

white boys rappin and rockin: the brand new minstrel show
http://hobartpulp.com/ess...strel.html
An essay on the rap/rock phenomenom

The True Life Confessions of Fleetwood Mac
http://www.fmlegacy.com/a...rs235.html
A post-Rumours pre-Tusk interview.
I believe this link came up based on a comment by Christine McVie concerning former Mac guitarist Peter Green.
See if you can pick it out. If you do, i'm curious what you think about it.

Black Sound, Black Body: Jimi Hendrix, the Electric Guitar, and the Meanings of Blackness
A general essay on the effect Jimi Hendrix had on guitar playing, the black community and what "black music" really means.

WARNING: All of these items are relatively long. reading
So if you've got a short attention span or it's hard for you to sit still...nutty...you'd better back away from this thread now.

Otherwise, enjoy. cool

tA

peace Tribal Disorder

http://www.soundclick.com...rmusic.htm




McVie: "He'd wrung the blues dry and already played 50 times better than most of the black guitarists."


Is this the bit you mean?If so , Im not sure what she meant by it.Unless ,in her expirience by that time, most of the better guitar players were black.It's an odd remark,tho.Im guessing that the context of her remark stems from the idea that "blues" was a Black American artform that British white guys fell in love with by the mid to late 60s and began to form blues bands that covered the older blues songs by black artists.

Green was great tho.
"...all you need ...is justa touch...of mojo hand....."
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Reply #2 posted 01/29/05 3:59pm

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theAudience said:


WARNING: All of these items are relatively long. reading
So if you've got a short attention span or it's hard for you to sit still...nutty...you'd better back away from this thread now.


Thanks for the heads up. The older I get, the shorter my attention span gets. sad

(Is there a Cliff Notes version? razz )
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Reply #3 posted 01/29/05 5:16pm

theAudience

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UptownDeb said:

theAudience said:


WARNING: All of these items are relatively long. reading
So if you've got a short attention span or it's hard for you to sit still...nutty...you'd better back away from this thread now.


Thanks for the heads up. The older I get, the shorter my attention span gets. sad

(Is there a Cliff Notes version? razz )


You're welcome, i'm here to help. wink

Regarding the Cliff Notes...



...this is the only one I could find. cool

No violence no no no!
(remember what Albert said) nod

tA

peace Tribal Disorder

http://www.soundclick.com...rmusic.htm
"Ya see, we're not interested in what you know...but what you are willing to learn. C'mon y'all."
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Reply #4 posted 01/29/05 5:30pm

theAudience

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MrTation said:



McVie: "He'd wrung the blues dry and already played 50 times better than most of the black guitarists."


Is this the bit you mean?If so , Im not sure what she meant by it.Unless ,in her expirience by that time, most of the better guitar players were black.It's an odd remark,tho.Im guessing that the context of her remark stems from the idea that "blues" was a Black American artform that British white guys fell in love with by the mid to late 60s and began to form blues bands that covered the older blues songs by black artists.

Green was great tho.


You nailed it. Seemed kinda odd.
Which "black guitarists" was she referring to? Why did she specify "black" guitarists?
At that time, there were probably more "white" guitarists playing blues than "black".
Just sounded weird.

He was a bad boy in his day. Remember this,...



...The End Of The Game?

tA

peace Tribal Disorder

http://www.soundclick.com...rmusic.htm
"Ya see, we're not interested in what you know...but what you are willing to learn. C'mon y'all."
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Reply #5 posted 01/29/05 6:35pm

MrTation

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theAudience said:

MrTation said:



McVie: "He'd wrung the blues dry and already played 50 times better than most of the black guitarists."


Is this the bit you mean?If so , Im not sure what she meant by it.Unless ,in her expirience by that time, most of the better guitar players were black.It's an odd remark,tho.Im guessing that the context of her remark stems from the idea that "blues" was a Black American artform that British white guys fell in love with by the mid to late 60s and began to form blues bands that covered the older blues songs by black artists.

Green was great tho.


You nailed it. Seemed kinda odd.
Which "black guitarists" was she referring to? Why did she specify "black" guitarists?
At that time, there were probably more "white" guitarists playing blues than "black".
Just sounded weird.

He was a bad boy in his day. Remember this,...



...The End Of The Game?

tA

peace Tribal Disorder

http://www.soundclick.com...rmusic.htm



Im not familiar with his solo work , but lately I have been listening to quite a bit of his work with FM...it seems in those days ,they left some of their better work off of the albums! Im impressed with the long form jams on "The Vaudeville Years of FM 1968-1970".It is an "unofficial" collection of leftovers but the Green/Kirwan guitar duals are pretty impressive.There is also a 3-disc set of shows from the Boston Tea Party in 1970 recorded just before Green quit the group thats really good.It surprising (and too bad) that this version of the group never made it in the States . The stuff they were doing wouldve sounded right at home in the late 60s San Francisco scene...(IMHO)
"...all you need ...is justa touch...of mojo hand....."
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Reply #6 posted 01/30/05 10:27am

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MrTation said:

Im not familiar with his solo work , but lately I have been listening to quite a bit of his work with FM...it seems in those days ,they left some of their better work off of the albums! Im impressed with the long form jams on "The Vaudeville Years of FM 1968-1970".It is an "unofficial" collection of leftovers but the Green/Kirwan guitar duals are pretty impressive.There is also a 3-disc set of shows from the Boston Tea Party in 1970 recorded just before Green quit the group thats really good.It surprising (and too bad) that this version of the group never made it in the States . The stuff they were doing wouldve sounded right at home in the late 60s San Francisco scene...(IMHO)

It's amazing how Fleetwood Mac started and what it became.
The Green/post-Green era, the Bob Welch/Christine Perfect era and eventually Nicks/Buckingham.

I wonder how many folks knew this band even existed before the '75 Fleetwood Mac release?

tA

peace Tribal Disorder

http://www.soundclick.com...rmusic.htm
"Ya see, we're not interested in what you know...but what you are willing to learn. C'mon y'all."
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Reply #7 posted 01/30/05 11:53am

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redface
Initially forgot to include the link for:
Black Sound, Black Body: Jimi Hendrix, the Electric Guitar, and the Meanings of Blackness

tA

peace Tribal Disorder

http://www.soundclick.com...rmusic.htm
"Ya see, we're not interested in what you know...but what you are willing to learn. C'mon y'all."
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Reply #8 posted 01/30/05 4:01pm

MrTation

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theAudience said:

MrTation said:

Im not familiar with his solo work , but lately I have been listening to quite a bit of his work with FM...it seems in those days ,they left some of their better work off of the albums! Im impressed with the long form jams on "The Vaudeville Years of FM 1968-1970".It is an "unofficial" collection of leftovers but the Green/Kirwan guitar duals are pretty impressive.There is also a 3-disc set of shows from the Boston Tea Party in 1970 recorded just before Green quit the group thats really good.It surprising (and too bad) that this version of the group never made it in the States . The stuff they were doing wouldve sounded right at home in the late 60s San Francisco scene...(IMHO)

It's amazing how Fleetwood Mac started and what it became.
The Green/post-Green era, the Bob Welch/Christine Perfect era and eventually Nicks/Buckingham.

I wonder how many folks knew this band even existed before the '75 Fleetwood Mac release?

tA

peace Tribal Disorder

http://www.soundclick.com...rmusic.htm



Probably not too many Americans , but they had probably heard Green's"Oh Well" or Welch's "Hypnotized" on the radio before...my interest in the popular 70s group actually led to me checking out their past releases .
"...all you need ...is justa touch...of mojo hand....."
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