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DURAN DURAN still get no respect I have seen many American Reviews of the Latest DURAN DURAN cd and Still this band gets NO RESPECT at all. Its amazing that a Band that CREATED VIDEO to be used as an Art Form, never really gets its Due. Instead in a Review from BLENDER magazine it says "DURAN DURAN never really made a good album anyway" and goes on to compare them to an 80's Version of NSYNC. Whatever U feel personally about DURAN is not the point really, statements Like the 90's were DURAN's LOST decade, that they had NO FOCUS at all. Excuse me, I think the WEDDING ALBUM, MEDAZZALAND, and POP TRASH are great FOCUSED statements. Its funny but a Magazine like BLENDER will trash a DURAN DURAN for still recording but then praise FRANZ FERDINAND and the SCISSOR SISTERS and THE KILLERS, who all site DURAN as an Influence and a group that paved the way for them. And the NSYNC and boy band comparison is insane. Just because NSYNC had that kind of FAME for 2-3 years, the comparison is not even close, that would be liking saying the BEATLES in their early days were like the BACKSTREET BOYS. Give it up already, the Boy Band thing was ALL a producer, driven creation. None of the BOY BANDS ever struggled, played instruments, wrote songs, played clubs, or any of that. I think the one thing that has changed over the last 15 years or so is the fact that PRODUCERS have destroyed MUSIC. Thats not say there isnt something positive out there, but the ratio is about for every Joss Stone, Van Hunt and Norah Jones, we get about 50-100 Producer driven artists like, JOJO and Christina Milian and others that pollute the charts. And to say "oh well thats what people like" is another stupid statement, just because people like it doesnt mean its good. Just because its sells, really doesnt mean its good, especially in these times, it just means its the same old thing, and people are afraid to change and take a chance on something thats not like everything else.
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I think they suck ass. | |
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Because they have no substance. Point fucking blank. They were never anything more than a boy band...new romantic style. Who played their instruments. | |
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This looks like "rockism" rearing its ugly head again. Anyway, while I liked Duran Duran's music and videos back in the 80's when I was in high school, I hated the hype surrounding them because of the whole girly teeny bop thing. However, looking back at their music, I respect them a lot more now for just creating great pop songs. I think most critics didn't take their music seriously because they got too hung up over their video image. They were a good looking band at that time (not that they aren't now), but the perception was, especially then, a band that was famous for their look as much as their music was not very talented, which was unfair in their case. As I said before, Duran Duran made some terrific pop music, but there still is a biased view in this country that pop musicians can't possibly make music as good as "serious" musicians. | |
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728huey said: This looks like "rockism" rearing its ugly head again. Anyway, while I liked Duran Duran's music and videos back in the 80's when I was in high school, I hated the hype surrounding them because of the whole girly teeny bop thing. However, looking back at their music, I respect them a lot more now for just creating great pop songs. I think most critics didn't take their music seriously because they got too hung up over their video image. They were a good looking band at that time (not that they aren't now), but the perception was, especially then, a band that was famous for their look as much as their music was not very talented, which was unfair in their case. As I said before, Duran Duran made some terrific pop music, but there still is a biased view in this country that pop musicians can't possibly make music as good as "serious" musicians.
Nobody disputes that they can play. It's that their music has no substance. Wild Boys, Union Of The Snake etc? 
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DiamondGirl said: 728huey said: This looks like "rockism" rearing its ugly head again. Anyway, while I liked Duran Duran's music and videos back in the 80's when I was in high school, I hated the hype surrounding them because of the whole girly teeny bop thing. However, looking back at their music, I respect them a lot more now for just creating great pop songs. I think most critics didn't take their music seriously because they got too hung up over their video image. They were a good looking band at that time (not that they aren't now), but the perception was, especially then, a band that was famous for their look as much as their music was not very talented, which was unfair in their case. As I said before, Duran Duran made some terrific pop music, but there still is a biased view in this country that pop musicians can't possibly make music as good as "serious" musicians.
Nobody disputes that they can play. It's that their music has no substance. Wild Boys, Union Of The Snake etc?
I love me some DD but I do realize what I am listening to. There are better songs on the albums. There is NEVER filler on their albums. Well, maybe on 7 & the Ragged Tiger. Thier first cd is a BRILLIANT debut with really great music. I find the non-singles and especially the b-sides to be much more satisfying to listen to. The point is, you don't know their music if you've only heard the singles. Notorious is a GREAT album as well, full of great music, not just pop music. Notorious was funky... Nile Rodgers played on it and produced it and he praises them left and right regarding their musical ability and live performances. While their music might not be your cup of tea, you can't make an informed oppinion of it if you haven't heard all of it. What kind of substance are you looking for? Union of the Snake is about the rising of Kundalini energy and Wild Boys is based on the novel by William Burroughs. This is from a recent interview with Nick Rhodes: Q. Last thing. What is a Union of the Snake? A. It's taken from kundalini, an ancient Eastern philosophy about a dormant snake that rises up through the body and gives you energy. Q. How do you spell that? A. I have no idea. You'll have to go stick it in google. Note to readers: In the classical literature of hatha yoga, kundalini is described as a coiled serpent at the base of the spine. The image of coiling, like a spring, conveys the sense of untapped potential energy. [Edited 11/7/04 10:28am] | |
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VinaBlue said: . There is NEVER filler on their albums. Well, maybe on 7 & the Ragged Tiger. The point is, you don't know their music if you've only heard the singles. Notorious is a GREAT album as well, full of great music, not just pop music. Notorious was funky... Nile Rodgers played on it and produced it and he praises them left and right regarding their musical ability and live performances. While their music might not be your cup of tea, you can't make an informed oppinion of it if you haven't heard all of it.
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DiamondGirl said: VinaBlue said: . There is NEVER filler on their albums. Well, maybe on 7 & the Ragged Tiger. The point is, you don't know their music if you've only heard the singles. Notorious is a GREAT album as well, full of great music, not just pop music. Notorious was funky... Nile Rodgers played on it and produced it and he praises them left and right regarding their musical ability and live performances. While their music might not be your cup of tea, you can't make an informed oppinion of it if you haven't heard all of it.
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VinaBlue said: DiamondGirl said: Who is this for? Everyone. Some are already well versed with DD. DD were vapid in creation. They knoew/know it too. Even mentioned it in th e pased by getting miffed at th e lack of respect consideration by the general populace ( media etc). A few songs here and there with some subject matter dealing with an authors subject or a real life situation doesn't mean they were not fluff overall. And there's nothing wrong with it either. But lets not attempt to make them something they are not as the original post talks about. | |
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DiamondGirl said: Some are already well versed with DD. DD were vapid in creation. They knoew/know it too. Even mentioned it in th e pased by getting miffed at th e lack of respect consideration by the general populace ( media etc). A few songs here and there with some subject matter dealing with an authors subject or a real life situation doesn't mean they were not fluff overall. And there's nothing wrong with it either. But lets not attempt to make them something they are not as the original post talks about. Vapid? Check out the featurettes on the Greatest Hits dvd... They have always cared about making music, having passion and being creative. Simon's lyrics are pure poetry, not fluff. The original post tells it like it is. Duran formed in 78 and played clubs, performing songs they wrote and got a record deal in 81. My ex-boyfriend asked me who wrote the songs in Duran Duran. They all write their parts, they collaborate as a group. The original post doesn't "make them something they are not." Even now, they have their music nearly finished before a producer comes in to polish it up. Much different than some acts of today, who might have a lyric and maybe a melody and the producer does the rest. Sometimes their demos have more musical ideas in them than the released versions! | |
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VinaBlue said: DiamondGirl said: Some are already well versed with DD. DD were vapid in creation. They knoew/know it too. Even mentioned it in th e pased by getting miffed at th e lack of respect consideration by the general populace ( media etc). A few songs here and there with some subject matter dealing with an authors subject or a real life situation doesn't mean they were not fluff overall. And there's nothing wrong with it either. But lets not attempt to make them something they are not as the original post talks about. Vapid? Check out the featurettes on the Greatest Hits dvd... They have always cared about making music, having passion and being creative. Simon's lyrics are pure poetry, not fluff. The original post tells it like it is. Duran formed in 78 and played clubs, performing songs they wrote and got a record deal in 81. My ex-boyfriend asked me who wrote the songs in Duran Duran. They all write their parts, they collaborate as a group. The original post doesn't "make them something they are not." Even now, they have their music nearly finished before a producer comes in to polish it up. Much different than some acts of today, who might have a lyric and maybe a melody and the producer does the rest. Sometimes their demos have more musical ideas in them than the released versions! DURAN DURAN RULEZ AND THERE AREN"T MANY BANDS LASTING 25 YEARS AND STILL SELLING OUT ALL SHOWS!!!! THAT IS PROOVE ENOUGH THEY"RE A GREAT BAND WHO DESERVES A LITTLE MORE RESPECT THAN THEY GET THESE DAYS! [Edited 11/7/04 13:46pm] MY NAME IS PRINCE
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DiamondGirl said: 728huey said: This looks like "rockism" rearing its ugly head again. Anyway, while I liked Duran Duran's music and videos back in the 80's when I was in high school, I hated the hype surrounding them because of the whole girly teeny bop thing. However, looking back at their music, I respect them a lot more now for just creating great pop songs. I think most critics didn't take their music seriously because they got too hung up over their video image. They were a good looking band at that time (not that they aren't now), but the perception was, especially then, a band that was famous for their look as much as their music was not very talented, which was unfair in their case. As I said before, Duran Duran made some terrific pop music, but there still is a biased view in this country that pop musicians can't possibly make music as good as "serious" musicians.
Nobody disputes that they can play. It's that their music has no substance. Wild Boys, Union Of The Snake etc?
I love me some DD but I do realize what I am listening to. Aaaahh, and without this substance they scored big hits time after time??? Yeah that really makes sense!!! MY NAME IS PRINCE
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I think ASTRONAUT is brilliant (I usually skip Chains and One of those Days) - I figured that music critics were going to pan DD no matter what b/cwe're in the post 90s boy-band bubble gum era and many critics will compare DD on the surface to that 90s bubble gum shit. Yet nowhere these critics will mention that DD writes, produces and plays all the instruments. Oh, and they ALSO sing LIVE (sorry Ashlee). You know these are the same critics that will still be paying $$ to see DD in concert so they can get their freak on to HUNGRY LIKE THE WOLF and GIRLS ON FILM. It's DD that will be laughing all the way to the bank. Let the rain come down...17 days....
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don't like 'em much. the only things i've ever liked by them were their 2 hits in 1993... Come Undone, and whatever the other one was.
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I could really give a crap what critics think about them, I've always loved their music. I agree that Astronaut is a BRILLIANT Duran Duran release and I love that they have the balls to put out a new album after all these years. I can't wait for the TOUR next year!!! | |
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Lennon said: DiamondGirl said: Nobody disputes that they can play. It's that their music has no substance. Wild Boys, Union Of The Snake etc?
I love me some DD but I do realize what I am listening to. Aaaahh, and without this substance they scored big hits time after time??? Yeah that really makes sense!!! Not everything that is a hit or has substance. Hello. Plus they had a few flops. Easy tiger. | |
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jonylawson said: read my lips...because they are S H I T
a fuckin 80s glamour band who wont go away can you please tell me what sort of musicologist would give duran"respect" in what? songwriting instrumentation? production? they fall in2 the same category as bananarama and wham!good time bubblegum 80s pop. amen. They're the equivalent to an 80's John Hughes movie. No offense to DD fans or Hughes fans | |
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haha!! thats a great analogy!!! I think ahead of you, I think instead of you
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We'll i was talking with a girl that slept with Simon b4 he got married a couple of yrs as a matter of fact and it was in Japan ... and to hear this girl tell her story. Simon had about 12ins of substance. | |
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It's a shame DD gets no respect, but that has always been the case. {shrug}. I don't think they care.
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You dont have to have substance to have a hit. How many times must this be said? And yes...Prince music is lacking in substance in a lot of his work especially his early works. TRC and some others had something to say that actually meant something rather then some giddy utopia nonsense. However, his personality and menaing came across much more than just writing songs about what his meaning was meant to construe, i.e. freedom of expression, breaking norms, acceptance overall.
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DD was and is 100% cheese. I remember fat girls writing their name on their shoes when I was a freshman in high school. They are in the same league as Journey and Styx since they are very popular but their stuff is pretty stupid (The Reflex? Union of the Snake?, Wild Boys?). But hey...I like that stuff once in awhile too when it comes on the radio...but like cheese itself, I can only handle a little bit at a time or it makes me constipated.
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Pagey said: DD was and is 100% cheese. I remember fat girls writing their name on their shoes when I was a freshman in high school. They are in the same league as Journey and Styx since they are very popular but their stuff is pretty stupid (The Reflex? Union of the Snake?, Wild Boys?). But hey...I like that stuff once in awhile too when it comes on the radio...but like cheese itself, I can only handle a little bit at a time or it makes me constipated.
BTW, now every time I hear Hungry Like the Wolf, I think of Andy Dick suckin the carrot in Old School Hi Pagey.  "I saw a woman with major Hammer pants on the subway a few weeks ago and totally thought of you." - sextonseven
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luv4u said: I love Simon le Bon
Bubble: Yasmine Le Bon's ill. Her husband phoned, and said "Simon Le Bon", which I thought was really amusing. Edina: Amusing....why, darling? Bubble: Very modern of him to have taken his wife's name. | |
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minneapolisgenius said: Pagey said: DD was and is 100% cheese. I remember fat girls writing their name on their shoes when I was a freshman in high school. They are in the same league as Journey and Styx since they are very popular but their stuff is pretty stupid (The Reflex? Union of the Snake?, Wild Boys?). But hey...I like that stuff once in awhile too when it comes on the radio...but like cheese itself, I can only handle a little bit at a time or it makes me constipated.
BTW, now every time I hear Hungry Like the Wolf, I think of Andy Dick suckin the carrot in Old School Hi Pagey. Minne!! Listening to The Song Remains The Same at this very moment!! | |
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EverlastingNow said: I love that they have the balls to put out a new album after all these years.
Why does that take balls? | |
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