NorthC said:

iZsaZsa said:

It was so in a preview of the tour at the Civic Center. Ask OldFriends4Sale.

But not on the tour itself.

@ the Rotterdam show June 2nd, but that was it

Ha! I win!

databank said:

Is it known why Prince chose to do a greatest hits tour, his first ever, instead of a Batman/GB tour?

I wonder if he had plans with that SNL group, but lost interest in more Batman themed songs/shows

the Future

Partyman

Sex

Batdance

Scandelous

Maine Road, Manchester. The Nude tour, 21st August 1990.

iZsaZsa said:

violetcrush said:

NorthC said:

iZsaZsa said:

Ha! I win!

No, you don't. Didn't I tell you I was there on the first night in Rotterdam? Scandalous wasn't played.

NorthC said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

Very cool photo! Thank you.

dodger said:

NorthC said:

No, you don't. Didn't I tell you I was there on the first night in Rotterdam? Scandalous wasn't played.

Just let her win for fucks sake

lol

nelcp777 said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

Very cool photo! Thank you.

At the end of Nothing Compares 2 U - you know, that completely platonic song about his housekeeper

violetcrush said:

nelcp777 said:

Very cool photo! Thank you.

At the end of Nothing Compares 2 U - you know, that completely platonic song about his housekeeper

no in 1990 it is about Big Chick. He started out the Nude tour dedicating the song to him at his tribute.

And then in 2012/13 it became about Bobby Z when he dedicated it to him.

They all planted flowers in the back yard silly ...

dodger said:

databank said:

Is it known why Prince chose to do a greatest hits tour, his first ever, instead of a Batman/GB tour?

Certain people will happily tell you he needed the money etc. It was a stripped down set (hence the name) so not as expensive to run as Lovesexy and SOTT

Ha! It's funny I didn't know that.

Yeah, money makes sense I guess.

NorthC said:

databank said:

Is it known why Prince chose to do a greatest hits tour, his first ever, instead of a Batman/GB tour?

The tour took place more than half a year after Batman was released and before GB came out. There's not much sense in promoting an album that's already past its peak while you're planning a new one. So playing the hits was the best way to draw the big crowds.

True but he could also have toured GB a few weeks later. But yeah I guess he needed the money as suggested above, and it's always better to tour Europe and Japan in Summer.

Does anyone think if there were no dancers/less focus on chorography etc that Prince might have focused more on rendering songs that were not featured on the tour? I sorta felt this about the Parade tour too

OldFriends4Sale said:

Does anyone think if there were no dancers/less focus on chorography etc that Prince might have focused more on rendering songs that were not featured on the tour? I sorta felt this about the Parade tour too

Possibly, but he was always so much about putting on that "show" for the audience - starting with the Controversy tour, and building from there. Even in the mid 90's when he was and didn't care he still had Mayte annoyingly gyrating all over the stage around him. For the Nude tour, the dancing troupe was tolerable - Tony M's rapping - not so much

OldFriends4Sale said:

violetcrush said:

At the end of Nothing Compares 2 U - you know, that completely platonic song about his housekeeper

no in 1990 it is about Big Chick. He started out the Nude tour dedicating the song to him at his tribute.

And then in 2012/13 it became about Bobby Z when he dedicated it to him.

They all planted flowers in the back yard silly ...

Yes, ttoally makes sense that the song was orginally inspired by bodyguards, guy friends and housekeepers. How could this have slipped by me??

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databank said:

NorthC said:

databank said: The tour took place more than half a year after Batman was released and before GB came out. There's not much sense in promoting an album that's already past its peak while you're planning a new one. So playing the hits was the best way to draw the big crowds.

True but he could also have toured GB a few weeks later. But yeah I guess he needed the money as suggested above, and it's always better to tour Europe and Japan in Summer.

There was no market for GB... It was a flop... Many of the Nude Tour concerts were not sell outs and venues were cancelled, he was doing a greatest hits tour... Imagine if he did a GB tour

The Graffiti Bridge movie was released after the NUDE tour right?

violetcrush said:

nelcp777 said:

Very cool photo! Thank you.

At the end of Nothing Compares 2 U - you know, that completely platonic song about his housekeeper

Yes, thanks for this photo! Video of this heart brought visions of Cat and Prince closing out If I Was Your Girlfriend.

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OldFriends4Sale said:

The Graffiti Bridge movie was released after the NUDE tour right?

rednblue said:

violetcrush said:

At the end of Nothing Compares 2 U - you know, that completely platonic song about his housekeeper

Yes, thanks for this photo! Video of this heart brought visions of Cat and Prince closing out If I Was Your Girlfriend.

[Edited 1/10/19 19:39pm]

Yes indeed! Hmmmm, another connection there. How interesting

feeluupp said:

databank said:

True but he could also have toured GB a few weeks later. But yeah I guess he needed the money as suggested above, and it's always better to tour Europe and Japan in Summer.

There was no market for GB... It was a flop... Many of the Nude Tour concerts were not sell outs and venues were cancelled, he was doing a greatest hits tour... Imagine if he did a GB tour

Only in Prince's world can 2 million and a half copies be called a "flop"

Prince made more money out of GB than any of us will make in our whole lifetime. Give me a "flop" like that any day so I can retire

databank said:

NorthC said:

databank said:

Only in Prince's world can 2 million and a half copies be called a "flop"

Prince made more money out of GB than any of us will make in our whole lifetime. Give me a "flop" like that any day so I can retire

Yeah, but most of us don't have a studio to run and staff to pay...

Bill Laswell has both, but doesn't live the lavish lifestyle Prince lived. Admitedly Laswell also made a lot of money in his life, though, but nothing comparable to the kind of money Prince made.

My point was just that that notion of a "flop" is very complicated to evaluate. I know musicians who are ecstatic if they sell 10,000 copies of their record, while big stars may consider several million copies a flop. On the average, though, GB was a huge success by the majority of recording artists' standards. So there is no real argument about its capacity to generate a successful tour (also, the Nude Tour wasn't always sold out because Prince played much larger venues than he did with other tours, at least it was the case in France).

databank said:

NorthC said:

databank said: Yeah, but most of us don't have a studio to run and staff to pay...

Bill Laswell has both, but doesn't live the lavish lifestyle Prince lived. Admitedly Laswell also made a lot of money in his life, though, but nothing comparable to the kind of money Prince made.

My point was just that that notion of a "flop" is very complicated to evaluate. I know musicians who are ecstatic if they sell 10,000 copies of their record, while big stars may consider several million copies a flop. On the average, though, GB was a huge success by the majority of recording artists' standards. So there is no real argument about its capacity to generate a successful tour (also, the Nude Tour wasn't always sold out because Prince played much larger venues than he did with other tours, at least it was the case in France).

No doubt that Prince made millions on most of his albums/tours. However, per Alan Leeds, by the early 1990's he was hemorrhaging huge amounts of money keeping PP running. It wasn't just a studio - he had a clothing design dept, soundstage for shooting videos, full time cooking staff, marketing staff, body guards, assistants, on and on and on.. Alan said they made very little profit off of the LoveSexy tour, because of the cost to actually put on the concerts.

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I agree about the Nude tour. Was it as successful as Purple Rain in the US? No, of course not. However, it must have been fairly successful or he wouldn't have played multiple shows in several cities, including 15 times in London in less than 3 months.

databank said:

feeluupp said:

There was no market for GB... It was a flop... Many of the Nude Tour concerts were not sell outs and venues were cancelled, he was doing a greatest hits tour... Imagine if he did a GB tour

Only in Prince's world can 2 million and a half copies be called a "flop"

Prince made more money out of GB than any of us will make in our whole lifetime. Give me a "flop" like that any day so I can retire

Is the flop GB the movie or GB the album

GB the movie was a flop not because of the $

I mean $ is going to come in because people go to see it, not knowing it is not good.

I mean it just isn't good. If he did another SOTT movie type, GB could have been good.
I can watch Hard Life, I cannot watch Graffiti Bridge.

A whole lot of flop junk movies still make $$

NorthC said:

databank said:

Only in Prince's world can 2 million and a half copies be called a "flop"

Prince made more money out of GB than any of us will make in our whole lifetime. Give me a "flop" like that any day so I can retire

Yeah, but most of us don't have a studio to run and staff to pay...

Exactly right NorthC - you have to look at the accounting at that time - how much $$ he was putting out for expenses and overhead vs. how much he was bringing in.