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Reply #60 posted 01/15/19 6:47am

violetcrush

paulludvig said:

violetcrush said:


I know, that is what I stated in my post above. Either the MTV music awards, where Prince performed SOTT and Play In The Sunshine, or the March '87 1st Ave show would have been her first public appearance in the outfit.


The MTV performance would be after the tour. But that's a minor detail. The 1 legged outfit was used in 87.

No, the first show for SOTT wa the "try-out" show (as he did for all tours) at 1st Avenue, I believe on March 21st, 1987 - before they started the tour in Europe. Pretty sure the MTV awards show was either Jan or March of 1987. I will check the dates.
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Reply #61 posted 01/15/19 6:52am

violetcrush

violetcrush said:

paulludvig said:



The MTV performance would be after the tour. But that's a minor detail. The 1 legged outfit was used in 87.

No, the first show for SOTT wa the "try-out" show (as he did for all tours) at 1st Avenue, I believe on March 21st, 1987 - before they started the tour in Europe. Pretty sure the MTV awards show was either Jan or March of 1987. I will check the dates.

SOTT 1st Avenue show - March 21st 1987
MTV Musis Awards - September 11th 1987
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So, the first time Sheila wore the SOTT outfit was March 1987, before the European tour which began in May.
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Reply #62 posted 01/15/19 7:02am

OldFriends4Sal
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paulludvig said:

violetcrush said:
Interesting trivia! Have to compare the dates. I think the first time Sheila wore it would have been either the MTV music awards or the 1st Ave SOTT tryout show earky 1987.
She wore the 1 legged outfits on the SOTT tour.

I think even casual Prince fans know that...

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Reply #63 posted 01/15/19 7:12am

paulludvig

violetcrush said:

paulludvig said:



The MTV performance would be after the tour. But that's a minor detail. The 1 legged outfit was used in 87.

No, the first show for SOTT wa the "try-out" show (as he did for all tours) at 1st Avenue, I believe on March 21st, 1987 - before they started the tour in Europe. Pretty sure the MTV awards show was either Jan or March of 1987. I will check the dates.


The MTV show was September 11. After the tour.
The wooh is on the one!
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Reply #64 posted 01/15/19 8:14am

violetcrush

paulludvig said:

violetcrush said:


No, the first show for SOTT wa the "try-out" show (as he did for all tours) at 1st Avenue, I believe on March 21st, 1987 - before they started the tour in Europe. Pretty sure the MTV awards show was either Jan or March of 1987. I will check the dates.


The MTV show was September 11. After the tour.

Yep, as I just stated.
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HOWEVER, AS I ALSO STATED, SHEILA FIRST WORE THE ONE-LEGGED BODYSUIT DURING THE MARCH 21st FIRST AVENUE CONCERT - SEVERAL MONTHS BEFORE THE TOUR BEGAN.
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Reply #65 posted 01/15/19 8:19am

paulludvig

violetcrush said:

paulludvig said:



The MTV show was September 11. After the tour.

Yep, as I just stated.
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HOWEVER, AS I ALSO STATED, SHEILA FIRST WORE THE ONE-LEGGED BODYSUIT DURING THE MARCH 21st FIRST AVENUE CONCERT - SEVERAL MONTHS BEFORE THE TOUR BEGAN.


thumbs up!
The wooh is on the one!
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Reply #66 posted 01/15/19 9:22am

OldFriends4Sal
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fen said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

I believe the 'Black album era' was all set to go when Prince pulled the plug.

I remember seeing pics of Sheila E on the Tonight Show and she played a double kick drum set that was purple. I believe the look and vibe was all set.

I have mixed feelings about the whole Black Album thing. It's one of my favourites and part of me wishes that he'd released it, but then we wouldn't have Lovesexy.

I enjoy Lovesexy, But I love the Blackalbum, I actually listen to it more than Lovesexy

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Tis nobody funkier...let the Black Album fly! - Spooky Electric

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Reply #67 posted 01/15/19 9:24am

OldFriends4Sal
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fen said:

violetcrush said:

Amazing what a trip on "E" will do to someone, or at least to Prince - if that story reallly is true smile

There's also this story from Donnie Simpson:

https://www.nbcwashington...36461.html

[Edited 1/15/19 6:05am]

Yep and Cat talked directly about it. And at least 5 others from that night. It's no big deal. Some people still act like it didn't happen.

The reason my voice is so clear

Is because there is no smack in my brain

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Reply #68 posted 01/15/19 9:29am

OldFriends4Sal
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http://diffuser.fm/prince-cindy-c/

When a stranger danced up to supermodel Cindy Crawford at a New York City club, she had no idea the experience would inspire a song. But that stranger was Prince, and 1994's

Black Album

included the light-hearted but racy track "Cindy C."

"I was out at this club called Nell's on 14th Street in New York, dancing with my friend and all of a sudden there was this little-er person that came and started dancing with me," Crawford told W. "And I was like, 'Oh, that's Prince. So cool.'"


The supermodel continues, "And then cut to not that long after and someone was like, 'Do you know Prince wrote a song about you?' And it's on the Black Album, which I still have, and it had a song on it called 'Cindy C.' And now I know what was going through his mind as we were dancing."


Of course, there were other rumors that suggest Prince wrote it after the model refused meeting with him. Either way, Prince may have danced around it with Cindy, but the song's lyrics don't. "In the middle of the night (Oh, Cindy C) / Will you f---- with me" and "Cindy C, play with me / I will pay the usual fee" get to the heart of the song. But he also jokes "I'm gonna see you in (look at me) / your birthday suit tonight / She doesn't look as good as I do."

The song was originally recorded in 1987, intended to be released as part of a dance floor-focused new Prince album - a follow-up to his highly praised Sign O' the Times double album - without a title or even credit. The album was sent to record label executives with only a cover that read "something by somebody." It was Prince himself who ultimately decided the album, dubbed the Black Album because of its plain black cover, featured subject matter too dark and negative, and pulled it before release. Shortly thereafter, Prince recorded the much more positive, spiritually-focused Lovesexy album. The video for the record's first single, "Alphabet St." featured a brief message about its abandoned predecessor, "Don't Buy the Black Album. I'm Sorry."

But in 1989, "Cindy C" was broadcast on the "New Power Generation Radio Show," which was co-hosted by Prince. The Black Album was finally released by Warner Bros. Records in 1994, as part of Prince's efforts to be released from his record contract.

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Reply #69 posted 01/15/19 9:30am

OldFriends4Sal
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This could have been in the inner sleave

'the Sheila E Birthday Party album'

Badder than the wicked Witch

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Reply #70 posted 01/15/19 10:34am

OldFriends4Sal
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Black Album fantasy show playlist

1. Le Grind

2. A Love Bizarre

3. SuperfunkiCaliFragiSexy

4. When 2 R in Love

5. Erotic City(w/Sheila E)

6. It

7. Bob George

8. Annie Christian

9. Cindy C

10. Make Up(Vanity 6 cover) Cat or Sheila e on lead

11. D. M. S. R

12. Love On A Blue Train

13. Possessed

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Reply #71 posted 01/15/19 10:40am

paulludvig

OldFriends4Sale said:

Black Album fantasy show playlist



1. Le Grind


2. A Love Bizarre


3. SuperfunkiCaliFragiSexy


4. When 2 R in Love


5. Erotic City(w/Sheila E)


6. It


7. Bob George


8. Annie Christian


9. Cindy C


10. Make Up(Vanity 6 cover) Cat or Sheila e on lead


11. D. M. S. R


12. Love On A Blue Train


13. Possessed





Great songs! I would add Rebirth of the Flesh and Rock Hard.
The wooh is on the one!
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Reply #72 posted 01/15/19 2:04pm

violetcrush

OldFriends4Sale said:

http://diffuser.fm/prince-cindy-c/

When a stranger danced up to supermodel Cindy Crawford at a New York City club, she had no idea the experience would inspire a song. But that stranger was Prince, and 1994's

Black Album

included the light-hearted but racy track "Cindy C."

"I was out at this club called Nell's on 14th Street in New York, dancing with my friend and all of a sudden there was this little-er person that came and started dancing with me," Crawford told W. "And I was like, 'Oh, that's Prince. So cool.'"


The supermodel continues, "And then cut to not that long after and someone was like, 'Do you know Prince wrote a song about you?' And it's on the Black Album, which I still have, and it had a song on it called 'Cindy C.' And now I know what was going through his mind as we were dancing."


Of course, there were other rumors that suggest Prince wrote it after the model refused meeting with him. Either way, Prince may have danced around it with Cindy, but the song's lyrics don't. "In the middle of the night (Oh, Cindy C) / Will you f---- with me" and "Cindy C, play with me / I will pay the usual fee" get to the heart of the song. But he also jokes "I'm gonna see you in (look at me) / your birthday suit tonight / She doesn't look as good as I do."

The song was originally recorded in 1987, intended to be released as part of a dance floor-focused new Prince album - a follow-up to his highly praised Sign O' the Times double album - without a title or even credit. The album was sent to record label executives with only a cover that read "something by somebody." It was Prince himself who ultimately decided the album, dubbed the Black Album because of its plain black cover, featured subject matter too dark and negative, and pulled it before release. Shortly thereafter, Prince recorded the much more positive, spiritually-focused Lovesexy album. The video for the record's first single, "Alphabet St." featured a brief message about its abandoned predecessor, "Don't Buy the Black Album. I'm Sorry."

But in 1989, "Cindy C" was broadcast on the "New Power Generation Radio Show," which was co-hosted by Prince. The Black Album was finally released by Warner Bros. Records in 1994, as part of Prince's efforts to be released from his record contract.

I think Cindy is "sugar-coating" the actual event in her more recent statement about it, because it's pretty clear in the lyrics that she would not dance with Prince. The story that's circulated for years is that either Prince's bodyguard asked her to dance with him, and she said no thanks, or that Prince actually danced up to her and her friend expecting her to dance with him, and she did not dance with him. I think this lyric describes his annoyance that she would not dance with him:

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I'm talking about a long crucial wait (Cindy C Listen)
Girl, if I have to beg (She's so tired)
I'm gonna see you in (Look at me)
Your birthday suit tonight (She doesn't look as good as I do)
I'm sure you're quite intelligent (you think she does, but think again. See?)
A whiz at math and all that shit (how 'bout that?)
But I'm, I'm a tad more interested (Ah ha ha look it)
(She can't even walk in those shoes)
(I can walk better than that)
In flyin' your kite tonight (She can't even dance)
Cindy, is that alright? (I would give somethin' to know)
(how she ever sees anyone)
(Cindy C)
Oohhh Cindy C, will you play with me?
I'll pay the usual fee

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I kinow I had watched an old clip of Cindy on a talk show discussing that night and the Black Album. Can't remember which talk show. She said she has the album.

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Reply #73 posted 01/15/19 2:21pm

SoulAlive

For me,it's the exact opposite smile I enjoy The Black Album...it's a fun,outrageous little album but I prefer Lovesexy....it's like a spiritual journey

OldFriends4Sale said:

I enjoy Lovesexy, But I love the Blackalbum, I actually listen to it more than Lovesexy

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Reply #74 posted 01/15/19 2:28pm

PennyPurple

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And then there’s “Cindy C.,” six minutes of Prince trying to get in Cindy Crawford’s pants while Sheila E talks junk from the sidelines. Here’s Prince driving hard to the hoop:

Where’d you get that beauty mark?
Maybe you and I should be undressing
Don’t all girls look the same? They don’t?
Oh, what a shame
Cindy, Cindy. I’ll pay the usual fee What’s the matter, don’t you like me?

The aggressive come-ons seemingly left Cindy more amused than skeeved out. Following Prince’s death, the supermodel spoke to W about the time she met Prince at a dance club in NYC. “Now I know what was going through his mind,” Crawford says, adding that she still has her copy of The Black Album.


https://genius.com/a/drug...lack-album

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Reply #75 posted 01/15/19 4:32pm

luvsexy4all

OldFriends4Sale said:

Black Album fantasy show playlist

1. Le Grind

2. A Love Bizarre

3. SuperfunkiCaliFragiSexy

4. When 2 R in Love

5. Erotic City(w/Sheila E)

6. It

7. Bob George

8. Annie Christian

9. Cindy C

10. Make Up(Vanity 6 cover) Cat or Sheila e on lead

11. D. M. S. R

12. Love On A Blue Train

13. Possessed

i think even Prince would orgasm during THIS show....

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Reply #76 posted 01/16/19 7:14am

OldFriends4Sal
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luvsexy4all said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

Black Album fantasy show playlist

1. Le Grind

2. A Love Bizarre

3. SuperfunkiCaliFragiSexy

4. When 2 R in Love

5. Erotic City(w/Sheila E)

6. It

7. Bob George

8. Annie Christian

9. Cindy C

10. Make Up(Vanity 6 cover) Cat or Sheila e on lead

11. D. M. S. R

12. Love On A Blue Train

13. Possessed

i think even Prince would orgasm during THIS show....

LOL

I would have loved to be someone who helped him plan shows and set lists back then

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Reply #77 posted 01/22/19 10:13am

OldFriends4Sal
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Image may contain: text that says 'HOLDING: The Prince-related album project dubbed "The Black Album" won't be released Dec. 15 after all; sources at his label now say it's on hold, with no firm release date set.'

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Reply #78 posted 01/23/19 6:58am

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Reply #79 posted 01/24/19 10:49am

GaryMF

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I always thought "Serve it up Frankie" was like a call out to Sheila, and that "Frankie" was like her (male) alter-ego.

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On LoveSexy there' sa song where they say "Serve it up Sheila" isn't there (or is that another song on the black album?)

.

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ON one of the songs doesnt Cat say "Serve it up frankie" and hten Sheila plays a drum fill and Cat says "Thank you!"

.

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Plus remember on the ATWIAD album art mural Sheila is draiwn in her lace onese outfit but has a mustache on it

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Prince like to play with gender a lot back then ("The BELLE" of St Mark being a male but "belle" is a feminine word in French, etc.)

rainbow
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Reply #80 posted 01/24/19 12:16pm

OldFriends4Sal
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GaryMF said:

I always thought "Serve it up Frankie" was like a call out to Sheila, and that "Frankie" was like her (male) alter-ego.

.

.

On LoveSexy there' sa song where they say "Serve it up Sheila" isn't there (or is that another song on the black album?)

.

.

ON one of the songs doesnt Cat say "Serve it up frankie" and hten Sheila plays a drum fill and Cat says "Thank you!"

.

.

Plus remember on the ATWIAD album art mural Sheila is draiwn in her lace onese outfit but has a mustache on it

.

.

Prince like to play with gender a lot back then ("The BELLE" of St Mark being a male but "belle" is a feminine word in French, etc.)

I'll try to find the interview where she said it. I also remember talking to about him when Frankie passed away, and she mentioned the 'Serve it Up Frankie' comment to the group and the house scene

Serve it Up Frankie is on 2nigsUnted4WestCompton (post #2)

I think she did say 'Serve It Up Sheila' somewhere too

she says it @ 2:59min on Eye Know(Lovesexy) as well

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Reply #81 posted 01/24/19 2:44pm

violetcrush

OldFriends4Sale said:

GaryMF said:

I always thought "Serve it up Frankie" was like a call out to Sheila, and that "Frankie" was like her (male) alter-ego.

.

.

On LoveSexy there' sa song where they say "Serve it up Sheila" isn't there (or is that another song on the black album?)

.

.

ON one of the songs doesnt Cat say "Serve it up frankie" and hten Sheila plays a drum fill and Cat says "Thank you!"

.

.

Plus remember on the ATWIAD album art mural Sheila is draiwn in her lace onese outfit but has a mustache on it

.

.

Prince like to play with gender a lot back then ("The BELLE" of St Mark being a male but "belle" is a feminine word in French, etc.)

I'll try to find the interview where she said it. I also remember talking to about him when Frankie passed away, and she mentioned the 'Serve it Up Frankie' comment to the group and the house scene

Serve it Up Frankie is on 2nigsUnted4WestCompton (post #2)

I think she did say 'Serve It Up Sheila' somewhere too

she says it @ 2:59min on Eye Know(Lovesexy) as well

The "Serve It Up Frankie" line came from Cat's time hanging out in Chicago with a popular DJ called Frankie Knuckles.

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Reply #82 posted 01/24/19 3:00pm

42Kristen

Nobody could had copied Sheila E. style at all. Not even Mayte when she tried back in the '90's. One of a kind( orginal) who never had been replaced.

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Reply #83 posted 01/24/19 3:14pm

violetcrush

42Kristen said:

Nobody could had copied Sheila E. style at all. Not even Mayte when she tried back in the '90's. One of a kind( orginal) who never had been replaced.

Sheila's stage outfits were designed and made for her by Prince's PP clothing dept. All of the outfits for the entire band were designed for and approved by Prince. Probably the same for Mayte to some degree. The NPG band had their outfits designed and made for them as well. The clothing and style was choreographed as much as the music.

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Reply #84 posted 01/24/19 5:44pm

OldFriends4Sal
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violetcrush said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

I'll try to find the interview where she said it. I also remember talking to about him when Frankie passed away, and she mentioned the 'Serve it Up Frankie' comment to the group and the house scene

Serve it Up Frankie is on 2nigsUnted4WestCompton (post #2)

I think she did say 'Serve It Up Sheila' somewhere too

she says it @ 2:59min on Eye Know(Lovesexy) as well

The "Serve It Up Frankie" line came from Cat's time hanging out in Chicago with a popular DJ called Frankie Knuckles.

lol yeah I already said that

post #28 and above

Serve it up, Frankie

Frankie, play something, bitch!

Frankie, play somethig - shit!

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Reply #85 posted 01/24/19 8:11pm

violetcrush

OldFriends4Sale said:

violetcrush said:

The "Serve It Up Frankie" line came from Cat's time hanging out in Chicago with a popular DJ called Frankie Knuckles.

lol yeah I already said that

post #28 and above

Serve it up, Frankie

Frankie, play something, bitch!

Frankie, play somethig - shit!

Ahhhh, I missed that smile

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Reply #86 posted 01/25/19 7:00am

OldFriends4Sal
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violetcrush said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

lol yeah I already said that

post #28 and above

Serve it up, Frankie

Frankie, play something, bitch!

Frankie, play somethig - shit!

Ahhhh, I missed that smile

lol

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Reply #87 posted 01/25/19 8:17am

GaryMF

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I still believe it's Sheila's alter-ego, like "Camille" or "Frances Baconskin" smile

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Reply #88 posted 02/04/19 3:01pm

luvsexy4all

violetcrush said:

42Kristen said:

Nobody could had copied Sheila E. style at all. Not even Mayte when she tried back in the '90's. One of a kind( orginal) who never had been replaced.

Sheila's stage outfits were designed and made for her by Prince's PP clothing dept. All of the outfits for the entire band were designed for and approved by Prince. Probably the same for Mayte to some degree. The NPG band had their outfits designed and made for them as well. The clothing and style was choreographed as much as the music.

surprized they didnt take off for regular folks

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Reply #89 posted 02/04/19 3:30pm

violetcrush

luvsexy4all said:

violetcrush said:

Sheila's stage outfits were designed and made for her by Prince's PP clothing dept. All of the outfits for the entire band were designed for and approved by Prince. Probably the same for Mayte to some degree. The NPG band had their outfits designed and made for them as well. The clothing and style was choreographed as much as the music.

surprized they didnt take off for regular folks

Well, this one here would be a little hard to pull off walking down the sidewalk... biggrin eek

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