Thanks 4 digging this information up

I love old photos, I get lost in them

Strawberrylova123 said:

Strawberrylova123 said:

princes great Aunt mittie maud Lena Gordon

ittie Maud Lena Gordon (Nelson)
Birthdate:	August 1884 (77)
Birthplace:	Webster Parish, Louisiana, United States
Death:	1961 (76)
Immediate Family:	Daughter of Rev. Edward "Ed" Nelson and Emma Nelson Wife of Robert Holt and William Gordon Sister of Vieanna Nelson; Clarence Allen Nelson; Roberta Nelson; Cleveland Nelson; Edward Nelson and 4 others
Occupation:	President of the Peace Movement of Ethiopia

• • 
    Vieanna Nelson

    sister
  • 
    Clarence Allen Nelson

    brother
  • 
    Roberta Nelson

    sister
  • 
    Cleveland Nelson

    brother
  • 
    Edward Nelson

    brother
  • 
    Turner Lee Nelson

    brother
  • 
    Lula Nelson

    sister
  • 
    Maggie Nelson

    sister

About Mittie Maud Lena Gordon

Mittie Maud Lena Gordon, president of the Peace Movement of Ethiopia (PME), was born in Webster Parish, Louisiana. Her father, Edward Nelson, was the son of a wealthy white slave owner and a freed Cherokee slave. Her mother, Emma Hardy, was black. Denounced by his half-brothers for his marriage to a black woman, Nelson left Louisiana and traveled throughout Arkansas and Louisian as a minister for the Colored Methodist Episcopal Church. Young Mittie traveled with him from 1897 to 1913. At the age of nine she witness a lynching of a black man by a white mob.

Gordon married Robert Holt in 1903 and had two children. Holt died in 1906, and Gordon was married a second time, in 1920, to William Gordon of Chicago. Having been taught about the theories of Henry McNeal Turner and other earlier black nationalists by her father, Gordon was attracted to Garveyism and the UNIA. She became involved with the UNIA in Chicago and served as a delegate to the 1929 UNIA convention in Jamaica. She was disillusioned by the factionalization she witnessed in Jamaica and returned to Chicago with the desire to found an organization with a single issue that would avoid the over-diffusion she felt had been the downfall of the UNIA. The PME was founded in the back of her husband's Chicago restaurant in December 1932. Beginning with Gordon as president and twelve other members, the stated goal of the new organization was the repatration to Liberia of North America's black population by means of massive federal aid. Gordon's strategy was to circulate petitions among blacks asking for their endorsement of the cause and then to use these petitions for lobbying purposes. A petition with some four hundred thousand signatures was sent to President Roosevelt in 1933 but was, like all future correspondences from the PME, promptly channeled to the Department of State and, within it, to the Division of Western European Affairs, which replied that interference by the United States with European holdings in Africa for the purpose of acquiring land for black colonization was not pragmatic. All other efforts of PME delegates to meet with President Roosevelt were similarily rebuffed.

Failing on her own account to penetrate official circles, Gordon began to formulate alliances with influential white racists who shared her faith in repatriation as a solution to racial tension and as a permanent means for the prevention of amalgamation. Gordon contacted Earnest S. Cox in March 1934. He became the national representative of the PME (1936), and he and Gordon worked in tandem on a four-point program. With Cox as a spokesperson, they continued to try to contact the president, to reawaken the American Colonization Society's interest in colonization, and earn an endorsement for their plan from President Edwin Barclay of Liberia. They also approached the Virginia legislature to present a prorepatriation resolution to Congress.

They were successful with the Virginia General Assembly, where almost one million signatures gathered by the PME, UNIA, and other black organizations were presented to the legislators, who responded by passing the desired memorial in March 1936. This success was followed by an encouraging letter from Barclay's aide-de-camp welcoming African-American immigrants to Liberia. Two members of the PME, David Logan and Joseph Rockmore, went to Liberia as emissaries in 1938. Their passage was paid by PME members who had raised the money through the collectio and sale of rags and bottles. State Department officials reported "that President Barclay does not take seriously the expressed hopes of the PME that financial support will be received from the United States," and thus placed monetary restrictios (proof of at least $1000 in assets for each immigrant) on his "welcome" to potential colonizers. Logan and Rockmore remained in Liberia for one month, spending much of their time in the company of T.J.R. Faulkner, a Marcus Garvey sympathizer and proponent of mass migration.

By 1939 the PME had collected over two million names on its petition. They had also found a new ally in Theodore Bilbo. Both Gordon and Cox were present in Washington D.C., when the Bilbo Greater Liberia Bill was introduced in the Senate on 24 April 1939. Despite Gordon's hopes and several efforts to have it reintroduced in future sessions of Congress, the bill was unsuccessful, dying with its senatorial advocate in 1947.

The third and final alliance forged by the PME in its search for federal backing was the Senator William Langer of North Dakota and the Universal African Nationalist Movement (UANM), an outgrowth of the UNIA in New York. The UANM was headed by Benjamin Gibbons (president general) and Benjamin Jones (executive secretary). The UANM had contacted Langer with its own version of a repatriation bill and Cox convinced Gordon to go against her misgivings and throw PME backing behind their efforts. The Langer bill was first introduced in 1949 and was continually reintroduced until Langer's death in 1959. It was never reported out of committee. Gordon herself died two years later, never having seen Liberia or any lasting effects from her thirty years of extensive lobbying

heres a photo of her

babynoz said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

Strawberrylova123 said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

Thanks 4 digging this information up

I love old photos, I get lost in them

Your welcome ❤ it's a hobby of mine

have you ever watched Geneology Roadshow or Finding Your Roots?
I LOVE those shows.

OldFriends4Sale said:

Strawberrylova123 said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

have you ever watched Geneology Roadshow or Finding Your Roots?
I LOVE those shows.

Yes! My favorite shows on TV, i thought the episode with Questlove was mind blowing

Would be cool if Tyka & Omar went on. A special Prince Rogers Nelson and family episode

OldFriends4Sale said:

Strawberrylova123 said:

Strawberrylova123 said:

this post has been viral all over the internet

Bryce Alger checked in to Cotile Lake.

November 14 at 5:05 PM · Boyce, LA ·

3 miles from my house. In this cemetery lies Dinah Jenkins, the daughter of slaves, raised among the plantations surrounding Bayou Rapides. Her offspring fled Louisiana to Minnesota, during Jim Crow to avoid persecution. Two generations later, Mrs. Jenkins’ great-grandchild picked up a guitar. His name was PRINCE.

Prince: An Unsung History
October 28, 2017 ·
For whoever asked if any Native American ancestry exists in Prince's lineage, the answer is yes! Cherokee and Blackfoot blood in particular. One of his ancestors was the son of a slave master and freed Cherokee slave. However, his brothers disowned him when he married a Black woman. This would've likely left him out of receiving an inheritance from his parents.

Also, during the age of slavery it was not uncommon for Blacks and Native Americans to intermarry, the same also applied to Native Americans that married Scottish.

There is a lot of interestingly curious information about Native Americans and their interactions with people of Color and Europeans in America. Their dealings with Scottish & French are particular. Thanks again for this thread

OldFriends4Sale said:

Would be cool if Tyka & Omar went on. A special Prince Rogers Nelson and family episode

To find out the family started in Orange County ...

OldFriends4Sale said:

CatB said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

Would be cool if Tyka & Omar went on. A special Prince Rogers Nelson and family episode

To find out the family started in Orange County ...

That really would be funny and historically interesting

I think in a past thread, we posted images of the towns/area they came from

Strawberrylova123 said:

Seahorsie said:

So, if I read this correctly, an ancestor was the son of a slave master as well as one being native American. Do you all interpret that to mean he had white blood in his ancestry as well? Maybe I am not understanding what the writer was trying to say.

this is princes great grandfather. this is the Ancestor that they are talking about .

Edward Nelson
Also Known As:	"Ed"
Birthdate:	March 1862
Birthplace:	Louisiana, United States
Death:
Immediate Family:	Son of John Nelson and NN NN Husband of Emma Nelson Father of Vieanna Nelson; Clarence Allen Nelson; Roberta Nelson; Mittie Maud Lena Gordon; Cleveland Nelson and 5 others Brother of William Nelson
Occupation:	Minister of the Colored Methodist Episcopal Church, laborer (1880)

• • mother

About Rev. Edward "Ed" Nelson

Edward Nelson, was the son of a wealthy white slave owner and a freed Cherokee Slave. Denounced by his half-brothers for his marriage to a black woman, Nelson left Louisiana and traveled throughout Arkansas and Louisiana as a minister for the Colored Methodist Episcopal Church.

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• Ed Nelson
• 1900 United States Federal Census
• Birth: Mar 1862 - Louisiana, United States
• Residence: 1900 - Ward 2, Webster, Louisiana, USA
• Wife: Emma Nelson
• Children: Clarence Nelson, Roberta Nelson, Mittie Nelson, Cleveland Nelson, Edward Nelson

how about someone create a thread on Black White Mixed Red etc Identity in Politics & Religion

So Strawberrylova123 thread goes smooth as she intended

We won't take the conversation further

Strawberrylova123 said:

one of the others with more question should start a thread about identify the fluidity of it what it means etc Go for it onlyforaminute

OldFriends4Sale said:

one of the others with more question should start a thread about identify the fluidity of it what it means etc Go for it onlyforaminute

They'd rather complain about everyone else's threads.

THIS IS INFO THAT WILL BE/CAN BE TRANSFERED TO THE TOPIC ABOUT RACIAL/MIXED IDENTITY

https://www.huffingtonpos...38616.html

A link from the thread that babynoz originally posted.


snip - of4$ let's keep on topic and no further attempts to flame the thread

purplefam99 said:

Strawberrylova123 said:

Strawberrylova123 said:

princes great Aunt mittie maud Lena Gordon

ittie Maud Lena Gordon (Nelson)
Birthdate:	August 1884 (77)
Birthplace:	Webster Parish, Louisiana, United States
Death:	1961 (76)
Immediate Family:	Daughter of Rev. Edward "Ed" Nelson and Emma Nelson Wife of Robert Holt and William Gordon Sister of Vieanna Nelson; Clarence Allen Nelson; Roberta Nelson; Cleveland Nelson; Edward Nelson and 4 others
Occupation:	President of the Peace Movement of Ethiopia

• • 
    Vieanna Nelson

    sister
  • 
    Clarence Allen Nelson

    brother
  • 
    Roberta Nelson

    sister
  • 
    Cleveland Nelson

    brother
  • 
    Edward Nelson

    brother
  • 
    Turner Lee Nelson

    brother
  • 
    Lula Nelson

    sister
  • 
    Maggie Nelson

    sister

About Mittie Maud Lena Gordon

Mittie Maud Lena Gordon, president of the Peace Movement of Ethiopia (PME), was born in Webster Parish, Louisiana. Her father, Edward Nelson, was the son of a wealthy white slave owner and a freed Cherokee slave. Her mother, Emma Hardy, was black. Denounced by his half-brothers for his marriage to a black woman, Nelson left Louisiana and traveled throughout Arkansas and Louisian as a minister for the Colored Methodist Episcopal Church. Young Mittie traveled with him from 1897 to 1913. At the age of nine she witness a lynching of a black man by a white mob.

Gordon married Robert Holt in 1903 and had two children. Holt died in 1906, and Gordon was married a second time, in 1920, to William Gordon of Chicago. Having been taught about the theories of Henry McNeal Turner and other earlier black nationalists by her father, Gordon was attracted to Garveyism and the UNIA. She became involved with the UNIA in Chicago and served as a delegate to the 1929 UNIA convention in Jamaica. She was disillusioned by the factionalization she witnessed in Jamaica and returned to Chicago with the desire to found an organization with a single issue that would avoid the over-diffusion she felt had been the downfall of the UNIA. The PME was founded in the back of her husband's Chicago restaurant in December 1932. Beginning with Gordon as president and twelve other members, the stated goal of the new organization was the repatration to Liberia of North America's black population by means of massive federal aid. Gordon's strategy was to circulate petitions among blacks asking for their endorsement of the cause and then to use these petitions for lobbying purposes. A petition with some four hundred thousand signatures was sent to President Roosevelt in 1933 but was, like all future correspondences from the PME, promptly channeled to the Department of State and, within it, to the Division of Western European Affairs, which replied that interference by the United States with European holdings in Africa for the purpose of acquiring land for black colonization was not pragmatic. All other efforts of PME delegates to meet with President Roosevelt were similarily rebuffed.

Failing on her own account to penetrate official circles, Gordon began to formulate alliances with influential white racists who shared her faith in repatriation as a solution to racial tension and as a permanent means for the prevention of amalgamation. Gordon contacted Earnest S. Cox in March 1934. He became the national representative of the PME (1936), and he and Gordon worked in tandem on a four-point program. With Cox as a spokesperson, they continued to try to contact the president, to reawaken the American Colonization Society's interest in colonization, and earn an endorsement for their plan from President Edwin Barclay of Liberia. They also approached the Virginia legislature to present a prorepatriation resolution to Congress.

They were successful with the Virginia General Assembly, where almost one million signatures gathered by the PME, UNIA, and other black organizations were presented to the legislators, who responded by passing the desired memorial in March 1936. This success was followed by an encouraging letter from Barclay's aide-de-camp welcoming African-American immigrants to Liberia. Two members of the PME, David Logan and Joseph Rockmore, went to Liberia as emissaries in 1938. Their passage was paid by PME members who had raised the money through the collectio and sale of rags and bottles. State Department officials reported "that President Barclay does not take seriously the expressed hopes of the PME that financial support will be received from the United States," and thus placed monetary restrictios (proof of at least $1000 in assets for each immigrant) on his "welcome" to potential colonizers. Logan and Rockmore remained in Liberia for one month, spending much of their time in the company of T.J.R. Faulkner, a Marcus Garvey sympathizer and proponent of mass migration.

By 1939 the PME had collected over two million names on its petition. They had also found a new ally in Theodore Bilbo. Both Gordon and Cox were present in Washington D.C., when the Bilbo Greater Liberia Bill was introduced in the Senate on 24 April 1939. Despite Gordon's hopes and several efforts to have it reintroduced in future sessions of Congress, the bill was unsuccessful, dying with its senatorial advocate in 1947.

The third and final alliance forged by the PME in its search for federal backing was the Senator William Langer of North Dakota and the Universal African Nationalist Movement (UANM), an outgrowth of the UNIA in New York. The UANM was headed by Benjamin Gibbons (president general) and Benjamin Jones (executive secretary). The UANM had contacted Langer with its own version of a repatriation bill and Cox convinced Gordon to go against her misgivings and throw PME backing behind their efforts. The Langer bill was first introduced in 1949 and was continually reintroduced until Langer's death in 1959. It was never reported out of committee. Gordon herself died two years later, never having seen Liberia or any lasting effects from her thirty years of extensive lobbying

heres a photo of her

WOW....Mattie Gordon was quite a woman!

onlyforaminute said:

https://www.huffingtonpos...38616.html

A link from the thread that babynoz originally posted.

snip - of4$ let's keep on topic and no further attempts to flame the thread

SNIP - of4$ please all the op to continue to share without further attempts to flame the thread

These are just some of the people that make up Prince's ancestry. More photos will be added as they are found and collected

Prince: An Unsung History

Page Liked · October 24, 2017 ·

Prince's other second cousin. Irene Carmichael-Clark. Photo was taken in 1924. Much of her family lived in Georgia and Alabama in the 19th century and still does today. Irene also played piano years ago, music seems to run in Prince's family!

amazing thread.

Would you have any information on where John L. Nelson is buried? I know where Mattie Della Shaw Baker is buried.

SBartist said:

Strawberrylova123 said:

Strawberrylova123 said:

SBartist said:

Would you have any information on where John L. Nelson is buried? I know where Mattie Della Shaw Baker is buried.