No, it feels good to have better ears than everyone else.

DarkKnight1 said:

No, it feels good to have better ears than everyone else.

My favorite era was based on when I got to the party. I was a huge fan in the 80s and was lucky enough to experience his output in real time and his songs mean a lot to me and bring back many incredible memories of the time, the place and my friends from that period. There were many nights sitting on the beanbag chair with headphones listening to the album, the b-sides and any tapes I had of those shows and it became part of my DNA.

Conversely, there are periods in my life that I was too busy to get some beanbag chair time and so I missed the boat for certain releases.

I have a number of friends who think of Emancipation the same way I think of Sign O' The Times. The greatest thing about Prince is that he created timeless music that crosses boundaries. What I may like, you may hate and vice versa, but we are both happy to jam to him regardless.

I've been here since 2003. I used to be baffled by it, but I got over it, because I realized that there were going to be generational dividing lines with such a prolific artist with a large discography.

There are post-electric/pre-electric splits among Dylan fans.

There are pre-Nebraska/post-Nebraska split among Springsteen fans.

Fans of jazz artists like Miles and 'Trane are split on their favorite eras.

I hope I've learned that there is no wrong answer for such an accomplished artist.

No. Not really. I mainly focus on those that been his fans the longest; '70's and '80's!

More by individual song selections and personal faves to be honest. I could make a "best of" compilation for myself that would make this board cry I think. A lot of the stuff I like seems to catch a shit ton of shade around here.

I don't think he ever really stopped creating genuinely amazing music, just that the route it took to reached people changed a lot, the quantity of it made it seem weaker due to the lack of editing and he buried so many of the real gems as side releases and such (see: Wasted Kisses). Everyone I've ever played Exodus for has loved it. I've played a ton of shit over the years for people based on thier tastes who are lukewarm on Prince and they all say the same thing: "I didn't know he could do that!"

Look at how many people didn't know he could shred until the R&RHoF show and how many eyes were opened at the Super Bowl halftime show.

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not really

but if you can't get down with cloreen bacon skin i'd prefer to not have you in my life

MoBettaBliss said:

not really

but if you can't get down with cloreen bacon skin i'd prefer to not have you in my life

Let me see if y'all can understand it this way...

If you divide us, our least commom multiple = PRINCE.

If you multiply us, our greatest common factor = PRINCE.

HatrinaHaterwitz said:

Let me see if y'all can understand it this way...

If you divide us, our least commom multiple = PRINCE.

If you multiply us, our greatest common factor = PRINCE.

purplethunder3121 said:

HatrinaHaterwitz said:

Let me see if y'all can understand it this way...

If you divide us, our least commom multiple = PRINCE.

If you multiply us, our greatest common factor = PRINCE.

rdhull said:

MoBettaBliss said:

not really

but if you can't get down with cloreen bacon skin i'd prefer to not have you in my life

it's true!

recently my wife had a work collegue and her husband over for dinner... i put bacon skin on and the dude said "i don't get it... why aren't there any other intstruments?"

i was like "finish your soup then gtfo"

MoBettaBliss said:

rdhull said:

it's true!

recently my wife had a work collegue and her husband over for dinner... i put bacon skin on and the dude said "i don't get it... why aren't there any other intstruments?"

i was like "finish your soup then gtfo"

And the moral of this motherfucker is...

CDinwiddie said:

I think the question that soladeo1 asks is a good one. Most of the discussion on this thread seems less about the "are you baffled?" question and more about the "why do people gravitate to a particular era?" question. And to me, the "why?" is even more interesting than the "baffled?"

For me, 81 - 87 reigns supreme. And yes, I often wonder, "why don't others always see and hear what I see and hear?" That question for me comes up in lots of situations, not just related to this topic. Ultimately, I shrug my shoulders and dismiss my own question as arrogant and land in the "different strokes" position that many in this thread have cited.

But, the "why?" does linger for me. Particularly as it relates to music.

Check out this article. Its an interesting read and I think it may have something to do with why people gravitate to a particular era.

https://slate.com/technol...-bump.html

Again for me, 81 -87 was when I was 11 - 17 years old. The music from that part of my life is burned into my brain in a different way than during other times of my life. I think the neuroscience described in this article may have something to do with the "why do people gravitate to a particular era?"

An NO, this won't be true for EVERY person. But the science says this generally true.

Something interesting to consider.

Dont need some article to tell us why we gravitate to certain eras regarding what we listen to in our formative years that are special or salient neurologically. Thats a no duh. But you dont have to have-been a teen during 1980-2000 to know that NewPowerSoul sucks, U2's POP doesn't have shit on Joshua Tree, The Stones Dirty Work is bs compared to Sticky Fingers etc.

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MoBettaBliss said:

rdhull said:

it's true!

recently my wife had a work collegue and her husband over for dinner... i put bacon skin on and the dude said "i don't get it... why aren't there any other intstruments?"

i was like "finish your soup then gtfo"

Sir Bliss

Different strokes for differen't folks. They don't all have to like what I like.

MoBettaBliss said:

rdhull said:

it's true!

recently my wife had a work collegue and her husband over for dinner... i put bacon skin on and the dude said "i don't get it... why aren't there any other intstruments?"

i was like "finish your soup then gtfo"

seriously though, even if you love that song, it is a long one to sit through at a dinner party

IstenSzek said:

MoBettaBliss said:

it's true!

recently my wife had a work collegue and her husband over for dinner... i put bacon skin on and the dude said "i don't get it... why aren't there any other intstruments?"

i was like "finish your soup then gtfo"

seriously though, even if you love that song, it is a long one to sit through at a dinner party

The most mundane conversation raising at shouting volumes during the "splaaaaashhhhzzz!" minute.
Suddenly, an ackward silence, in which Prince subrepticely drops "You're one ugly mothefucka, I'm not jiviin’..." .

... Errr, pass the salt, please.

no... My Favorite time was 85-88 (you can throw in the other 6 albums too) because one the music was so good but also that was my high school and my first year or so in the military... years that held many changes... those 10 albums were a part of me... and they held on to me.... by the time batman (and beyond) I was grown. *also it was not until about the time ATWIAD came out that I was allowed to buy music.

I would not know what to do if I was a new fan... without the time between albums to digest them and really get to know them...

rdhull said:

we gravitate to certain eras regarding what we listen to in our formative years that are special or salient neurologically.

[Edited 10/25/18 18:47pm]

And that's really at the core of all of our debates on music here, Prince and otherwise.

(I highlighted this in Peach and Black to amplify the point . . .)

namepeace said:

rdhull said:

we gravitate to certain eras regarding what we listen to in our formative years that are special or salient neurologically.

[Edited 10/25/18 18:47pm]

And that's really at the core of all of our debates on music here, Prince and otherwise.

(I highlighted this in Peach and Black to amplify the point . . .)

Yeah but don't y'all see the absurdity of it? Not only do y'all allow cognitive biases and other neural factors to alter your judgement ("It's good/bad" used instead of "I like/dislike it"), but y'all go as far as debating and arguing over whose hallucinations are the realest.

.

It's pretty much like a convo between 2 nutcases where one would say he can walk over a beam of light, and the other replies the light won't be solid enough and it'll break under his weight, and they argue for hours about who's right and who's wrong...

.

This is precisely what's always driven me mad about this board!! It upsets me so much when people do that!

djThunderfunk said:

littlemissG said:

djThunderfunk said:

No. I've read 1,001 threads about trimming Emancipation down to 1CD, so, I know that as fans we are NOT on the same page in regards to Prince favorites. That's how good Prince is.

Exactly, and why would you trim Emancipation? Every disc is a perfect representation of Prince (minus swearing) of the Nineties, plus the three disc format made it chart. It’s brilliant.

emancipation needs even more discs i hope that in future they'll release a 6 disc version
with all those outtakes on it. stuff like 'love (never has 2 say goodbye)', '2020', 'feel good',
'journey 2 the center of ur heart', 'slave 2 the system' etc etc the list is so long and
there's quite a few outtakes from it that we know the names to but never heard

How dare someone like a era or song i don't, put them in a jail cell.

follow all the sheep

What a boring world if everyone liked the same things.

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databank said:

namepeace said:

And that's really at the core of all of our debates on music here, Prince and otherwise.

(I highlighted this in Peach and Black to amplify the point . . .)

Yeah but don't y'all see the absurdity of it? Not only do y'all allow cognitive biases and other neural factors to alter your judgement ("It's good/bad" used instead of "I like/dislike it"), but y'all go as far as debating and arguing over whose hallucinations are the realest.

.

It's pretty much like a convo between 2 nutcases where one would say he can walk over a beam of light, and the other replies the light won't be solid enough and it'll break under his weight, and they argue for hours about who's right and who's wrong...

.

This is precisely what's always driven me mad about this board!! It upsets me so much when people do that!

databank, you didn't read my original post, and you're not familiar with my general position on these topics overall.

Here's what I originally said.

I've been here since 2003. I used to be baffled by it, but I got over it, because I realized that there were going to be generational dividing lines with such a prolific artist with a large discography.

There are post-electric/pre-electric splits among Dylan fans.

There are pre-Nebraska/post-Nebraska split among Springsteen fans.

Fans of jazz artists like Miles and 'Trane are split on their favorite eras.

I hope I've learned that there is no wrong answer for such an accomplished artist.

What rdhull was identifying was the core bias that triggers these debates. Everybody is going to have a "cognitive bias" towards the eras that they either (i) grew up in, or (ii) discovered during formative periods on their lives.

neither rdhull nor I were justifying that bias. We were acknowledging that everybody brings that bias to the table. rdhull, for example, was saying that even acknowleding the bias exists, legit arguments can be made on the comparative merits.

People are always arguing about which artists are the greatest, which eras of music or genre of music were the greatest, and which artist's eras are the greatest. If it weren't entertaining we wouldn't be here. But we recognize that our positions are always biased to some degree or another.

rdhull simply pointed out why, and i co-signed that in peach and black in self-awareness of my own bias.

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namepeace said:

rdhull said:

we gravitate to certain eras regarding what we listen to in our formative years that are special or salient neurologically.

[Edited 10/25/18 18:47pm]

And that's really at the core of all of our debates on music here, Prince and otherwise.

(I highlighted this in Peach and Black to amplify the point . . .)

Yes, and some context. I meant we already heard about that scientific theory and its bogus because as I stated in the WHOLE comment was that regardless when you were teen or when ones bran ws formulating endaring memories or whatever, NPS still sucks compared to PR era etc. as does later works by the other artists I mentioned no matter when the brain was doing the do. There's a reason SOTT is heralded by others who were teens etc way AFTER that record was released.

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