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Reply #180 posted 10/03/18 9:27pm

purplefam99

sonshine said:

purplefam99 said:



rednblue said:


Just tossing in here that opiates are capable of both sedating and energizing effects. One discussion of this: https://www.researchgate....ome_humans



thx for the link. reading...



and we know he was a hugh fan of 5hr energy. i have never taken those, anyone know what


it would equate to in coffee? are its effects not as jittery as coffee? i wonder if he took one


or two of those things. he did seem to not lack energy in shows.


Idk for sure, but I think it's more than coffee. I drink ALOT of coffee, but those energy drinks do a number on me. I don't like the way I feel from them, but they do work. I still prefer a good espresso. Strong coffee will make my heart "flutter" at times, but energy drinks just make me feel scrambled. I can't organize my thoughts or actions when my mind is racing in such a way. So while they do work they just don't work for me.


Yikes!! Yes I have heard stories of football players high school mostly
Dying from taking those and working out. Thx for reply.
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Reply #181 posted 10/04/18 4:13am

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PennyPurple said:

Again when ever the opioid crisis is brought up, Prince's name enters the picture. sad




Rightly so. An absurd death like this one needs the exposure. Tom Petty's too. Communicating or raising awareness about it is much needed prevention. Don't worry about the tabloids semi-lying shortcuts. Tabloids readers don't get to make laws.
But if it takes celebrities, I won't mind the weaknesses of the world when it comes to role models and crucifixions. This too shall pass.

The Colors R brighter, the Bond is much tighter
No Child's a failure
Until the Blue Sailboat sails him away from his dreams
Don't Ever Lose, Don't Ever Lose
Don't Ever Lose Your Dreams
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Reply #182 posted 10/06/18 11:46am

Latin

The full episode is now available here:

https://abc.go.com/shows/...led-prince
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Reply #183 posted 10/06/18 1:19pm

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The full episode is now available here: https://abc.go.com/shows/...led-prince

Thanks Latin!

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Reply #184 posted 10/07/18 5:39am

leec1

PennyPurple said:

Latin said:

The full episode is now available here: https://abc.go.com/shows/...led-prince

Thanks Latin!

When I watched this episode, I thought it was very telling that they had spoken with the Carver County attorney Mark Metz who indicated that the reason they couldn't find the source of the drugs Prince had is because those close to him wouldn't cooperate.

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Reply #185 posted 10/07/18 7:14am

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PennyPurple said:

Thanks Latin!

When I watched this episode, I thought it was very telling that they had spoken with the Carver County attorney Mark Metz who indicated that the reason they couldn't find the source of the drugs Prince had is because those close to him wouldn't cooperate.

I know. I still don't understand how someone can refuse to talk to the police in a death investigation. And if they are his friends who seen him just about every day, (KJ, Meron) why would they not want to talk to the police? And why is KJ still tied so closely with the Nelson family?


Also rumor has it that Metz's wife was friends with KJ on Facebook while the investigation was going on???? It's going around in one of the facebook groups.

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Reply #186 posted 10/07/18 8:25am

leec1

PennyPurple said:

leec1 said:

When I watched this episode, I thought it was very telling that they had spoken with the Carver County attorney Mark Metz who indicated that the reason they couldn't find the source of the drugs Prince had is because those close to him wouldn't cooperate.

I know. I still don't understand how someone can refuse to talk to the police in a death investigation. And if they are his friends who seen him just about every day, (KJ, Meron) why would they not want to talk to the police? And why is KJ still tied so closely with the Nelson family?


Also rumor has it that Metz's wife was friends with KJ on Facebook while the investigation was going on???? It's going around in one of the facebook groups.

The more I have thought about the source of the drugs I feel that P. didn't buy them on line especially because he didn't use credit cards. I think he bought drugs with cash in large quantities at a time and he may have done this at concert venues.

With this premise, the only way an investigator is going to find the source is if his associates provide the information. I also think the main reason the associates won't/don't talk is because they were involved with the drug purchases.

If you "lawyer up", you don't have to talk to the police.

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Reply #187 posted 10/07/18 9:09am

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leec1 said:

PennyPurple said:

I know. I still don't understand how someone can refuse to talk to the police in a death investigation. And if they are his friends who seen him just about every day, (KJ, Meron) why would they not want to talk to the police? And why is KJ still tied so closely with the Nelson family?


Also rumor has it that Metz's wife was friends with KJ on Facebook while the investigation was going on???? It's going around in one of the facebook groups.

The more I have thought about the source of the drugs I feel that P. didn't buy them on line especially because he didn't use credit cards. I think he bought drugs with cash in large quantities at a time and he may have done this at concert venues.

With this premise, the only way an investigator is going to find the source is if his associates provide the information. I also think the main reason the associates won't/don't talk is because they were involved with the drug purchases.

If you "lawyer up", you don't have to talk to the police.

I feel if they had nothing to hide, they should've met with the PD.

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Reply #188 posted 10/07/18 10:29am

peggyon

leec1 said:

PennyPurple said:

I know. I still don't understand how someone can refuse to talk to the police in a death investigation. And if they are his friends who seen him just about every day, (KJ, Meron) why would they not want to talk to the police? And why is KJ still tied so closely with the Nelson family?


Also rumor has it that Metz's wife was friends with KJ on Facebook while the investigation was going on???? It's going around in one of the facebook groups.

The more I have thought about the source of the drugs I feel that P. didn't buy them on line especially because he didn't use credit cards. I think he bought drugs with cash in large quantities at a time and he may have done this at concert venues.

With this premise, the only way an investigator is going to find the source is if his associates provide the information. I also think the main reason the associates won't/don't talk is because they were involved with the drug purchases.

If you "lawyer up", you don't have to talk to the police.

My thoughts, too.

Also, remember when Prince asked Phaedra for $60,000 in cash?

[Edited 10/7/18 10:32am]

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Reply #189 posted 10/07/18 5:02pm

purplefam99

peggyon said:



leec1 said:




PennyPurple said:



I know. I still don't understand how someone can refuse to talk to the police in a death investigation. And if they are his friends who seen him just about every day, (KJ, Meron) why would they not want to talk to the police? And why is KJ still tied so closely with the Nelson family?



Also rumor has it that Metz's wife was friends with KJ on Facebook while the investigation was going on???? It's going around in one of the facebook groups.




The more I have thought about the source of the drugs I feel that P. didn't buy them on line especially because he didn't use credit cards. I think he bought drugs with cash in large quantities at a time and he may have done this at concert venues.


With this premise, the only way an investigator is going to find the source is if his associates provide the information. I also think the main reason the associates won't/don't talk is because they were involved with the drug purchases.



If you "lawyer up", you don't have to talk to the police.



My thoughts, too.


Also, remember when Prince asked Phaedra for $60,000 in cash?

[Edited 10/7/18 10:32am]



Help me understand why a person of means wouldn’t have an account with at least 300,000 in it at all times for there own personal use to use as they want. Why did he have to ask for money?
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Reply #190 posted 10/07/18 6:16pm

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purplefam99 said:

peggyon said:



leec1 said:




PennyPurple said:



I know. I still don't understand how someone can refuse to talk to the police in a death investigation. And if they are his friends who seen him just about every day, (KJ, Meron) why would they not want to talk to the police? And why is KJ still tied so closely with the Nelson family?



Also rumor has it that Metz's wife was friends with KJ on Facebook while the investigation was going on???? It's going around in one of the facebook groups.




The more I have thought about the source of the drugs I feel that P. didn't buy them on line especially because he didn't use credit cards. I think he bought drugs with cash in large quantities at a time and he may have done this at concert venues.


With this premise, the only way an investigator is going to find the source is if his associates provide the information. I also think the main reason the associates won't/don't talk is because they were involved with the drug purchases.



If you "lawyer up", you don't have to talk to the police.



My thoughts, too.


Also, remember when Prince asked Phaedra for $60,000 in cash?

[Edited 10/7/18 10:32am]



Help me understand why a person of means wouldn’t have an account with at least 300,000 in it at all times for there own personal use to use as they want. Why did he have to ask for money?


Prince spent his money cautiously. That’s why.

Prince also did have more than one account at Bremer Bank with multiple funds in them.
"That mountain top situation is not really what it's all cracked up 2 B when eye was doing the Purple Rain tour eye had a lot of people who eye knew eye'll never c again @ the concerts.just screamin n places they thought they was suppose 2 scream."prince
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Reply #191 posted 10/07/18 6:31pm

peggyon

ChocolateBox3121 said:

purplefam99 said:
Help me understand why a person of means wouldn’t have an account with at least 300,000 in it at all times for there own personal use to use as they want. Why did he have to ask for money?
Prince spent his money cautiously. That’s why. Prince also did have more than one account at Bremer Bank with multiple funds in them.

Phaedra seemed to hold the purse strings. He also asked her to deposit $15,000 in Appolllonia, Brenda and Susan M's personal checking accts.

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Reply #192 posted 10/07/18 8:03pm

purplefam99

ChocolateBox3121 said:

purplefam99 said:



Help me understand why a person of means wouldn’t have an account with at least 300,000 in it at all times for there own personal use to use as they want. Why did he have to ask for money?


Prince spent his money cautiously. That’s why.

Prince also did have more than one account at Bremer Bank with multiple funds in them.


I was just curious as an aside.
I didn’t necessarily equate asking for funds as an exercise in cautious spending.
But maybe it was.
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Reply #193 posted 10/08/18 11:21am

leec1

peggyon said:

leec1 said:

The more I have thought about the source of the drugs I feel that P. didn't buy them on line especially because he didn't use credit cards. I think he bought drugs with cash in large quantities at a time and he may have done this at concert venues.

With this premise, the only way an investigator is going to find the source is if his associates provide the information. I also think the main reason the associates won't/don't talk is because they were involved with the drug purchases.

If you "lawyer up", you don't have to talk to the police.

My thoughts, too.

Also, remember when Prince asked Phaedra for $60,000 in cash?

[Edited 10/7/18 10:32am]

Yes I remember the $60,000 cash which I thought would most likely be used for drug buys. I know this is an assumption but to me it makes sense that you need to have a stash of cash for this purpose.

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Reply #194 posted 10/08/18 6:42pm

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peggyon said:

My thoughts, too.

Also, remember when Prince asked Phaedra for $60,000 in cash?

[Edited 10/7/18 10:32am]

Yes I remember the $60,000 cash which I thought would most likely be used for drug buys. I know this is an assumption but to me it makes sense that you need to have a stash of cash for this purpose.

And he could've gotten the drugs in Atlanta while he was there.

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Reply #195 posted 10/08/18 9:46pm

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PennyPurple said:

leec1 said:

Yes I remember the $60,000 cash which I thought would most likely be used for drug buys. I know this is an assumption but to me it makes sense that you need to have a stash of cash for this purpose.

And he could've gotten the drugs in Atlanta while he was there.



This is important.

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Reply #196 posted 10/09/18 8:49am

1Sasha

And remember that any transaction $10,000 or over is required to be reported to the Feds. If she pulled $60K there must be a paper trail.

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Reply #197 posted 10/09/18 10:15am

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1Sasha said:

And remember that any transaction $10,000 or over is required to be reported to the Feds. If she pulled $60K there must be a paper trail.



You only have to report when your business receives a cash transaction over $10k.

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Reply #198 posted 10/09/18 11:49am

1Sasha

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

1Sasha said:

And remember that any transaction $10,000 or over is required to be reported to the Feds. If she pulled $60K there must be a paper trail.



You only have to report when your business receives a cash transaction over $10k.

I thought it went both ways. Thanks for the clarification.

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Reply #199 posted 10/09/18 12:04pm

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leec1 said:



peggyon said:




leec1 said:



The more I have thought about the source of the drugs I feel that P. didn't buy them on line especially because he didn't use credit cards. I think he bought drugs with cash in large quantities at a time and he may have done this at concert venues.


With this premise, the only way an investigator is going to find the source is if his associates provide the information. I also think the main reason the associates won't/don't talk is because they were involved with the drug purchases.



If you "lawyer up", you don't have to talk to the police.



My thoughts, too.


Also, remember when Prince asked Phaedra for $60,000 in cash?


[Edited 10/7/18 10:32am]



Yes I remember the $60,000 cash which I thought would most likely be used for drug buys. I know this is an assumption but to me it makes sense that you need to have a stash of cash for this purpose.


rolleyes
LIES!
$60,000 worth of drugs would have filled way more than Paisley Park up of pills. It was extra spending cash for Prince. NOT drug money.
"That mountain top situation is not really what it's all cracked up 2 B when eye was doing the Purple Rain tour eye had a lot of people who eye knew eye'll never c again @ the concerts.just screamin n places they thought they was suppose 2 scream."prince
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Reply #200 posted 10/09/18 3:19pm

leec1

ChocolateBox3121 said:

leec1 said:



peggyon said:




leec1 said:



The more I have thought about the source of the drugs I feel that P. didn't buy them on line especially because he didn't use credit cards. I think he bought drugs with cash in large quantities at a time and he may have done this at concert venues.


With this premise, the only way an investigator is going to find the source is if his associates provide the information. I also think the main reason the associates won't/don't talk is because they were involved with the drug purchases.



If you "lawyer up", you don't have to talk to the police.



My thoughts, too.


Also, remember when Prince asked Phaedra for $60,000 in cash?


[Edited 10/7/18 10:32am]



Yes I remember the $60,000 cash which I thought would most likely be used for drug buys. I know this is an assumption but to me it makes sense that you need to have a stash of cash for this purpose.


rolleyes
LIES!
$60,000 worth of drugs would have filled way more than Paisley Park up of pills. It was extra spending cash for Prince. NOT drug money.

I have indicated a possibility of what cash was used for. The source of the drugs wasn't found and using cash leaves no paper trail.
How do you know what he used cash for?
You are exaggerating how much space would be taken up to store the drugs.
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Reply #201 posted 10/09/18 7:04pm

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leec1 said:

ChocolateBox3121 said:
rolleyes LIES! $60,000 worth of drugs would have filled way more than Paisley Park up of pills. It was extra spending cash for Prince. NOT drug money.
I have indicated a possibility of what cash was used for. The source of the drugs wasn't found and using cash leaves no paper trail. How do you know what he used cash for? You are exaggerating how much space would be taken up to store the drugs.

I tend to agree.

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Reply #202 posted 10/09/18 7:19pm

precioux

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:



PennyPurple said:




leec1 said:



Yes I remember the $60,000 cash which I thought would most likely be used for drug buys. I know this is an assumption but to me it makes sense that you need to have a stash of cash for this purpose.



And he could've gotten the drugs in Atlanta while he was there.





This is important.





Yes, this is important. You and I discussed the strangeness of the guy from Electric Fetus being there at the Atlanta shoe as well as the fact that he was one of only 3 that privately went to see Prince after the first show that night. The other 2 were Cee Lo and another artist. This was documented in investigation reports-Judith Hill’s admitted this. Prince also said that night in the hospital that ‘someone gave it to him to relax’.
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Reply #203 posted 10/09/18 7:23pm

precioux

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:



1Sasha said:


And remember that any transaction $10,000 or over is required to be reported to the Feds. If she pulled $60K there must be a paper trail.





You only have to report when your business receives a cash transaction over $10k.




Not true. Any funds going into/out of an account or any cash transaction over $10,000 requires a CTR be filled out and filed with the IRS per patriot act.
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Reply #204 posted 10/09/18 9:44pm

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precioux said:

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:



You only have to report when your business receives a cash transaction over $10k.

Not true. Any funds going into/out of an account or any cash transaction over $10,000 requires a CTR be filled out and filed with the IRS per patriot act.



Hi Precioux!

Help me and give me the section in The Patriot Act where it states $10k withdrawn from an account must be reported. Seriously....I love learning something new every day.


Also, we are kinda saying the same thing. $10k deposited into an "account" (bank/business) over $10k must be reported.

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Reply #205 posted 10/10/18 3:37am

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leec1 said:

ChocolateBox3121 said:


rolleyes
LIES!
$60,000 worth of drugs would have filled way more than Paisley Park up of pills. It was extra spending cash for Prince. NOT drug money.

I have indicated a possibility of what cash was used for. The source of the drugs wasn't found and using cash leaves no paper trail.
How do you know what he used cash for
?
You are exaggerating how much space would be taken up to store the drugs.


And how do U know the “possibility” of why he had it withdrawn?
"That mountain top situation is not really what it's all cracked up 2 B when eye was doing the Purple Rain tour eye had a lot of people who eye knew eye'll never c again @ the concerts.just screamin n places they thought they was suppose 2 scream."prince
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Reply #206 posted 10/10/18 9:04am

leec1

ChocolateBox3121 said:

leec1 said:


I have indicated a possibility of what cash was used for. The source of the drugs wasn't found and using cash leaves no paper trail.
How do you know what he used cash for
?
You are exaggerating how much space would be taken up to store the drugs.


And how do U know the “possibility” of why he had it withdrawn?

I didn't say I know. I indicated it was a possibility of how the money may have been used. What you stated is also just a possibility. I am entitled to my opinion as you are entitled to your opinion.
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Reply #207 posted 10/10/18 9:35am

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precioux said:

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:



PennyPurple said:




leec1 said:



Yes I remember the $60,000 cash which I thought would most likely be used for drug buys. I know this is an assumption but to me it makes sense that you need to have a stash of cash for this purpose.



And he could've gotten the drugs in Atlanta while he was there.





This is important.





Yes, this is important. You and I discussed the strangeness of the guy from Electric Fetus being there at the Atlanta shoe as well as the fact that he was one of only 3 that privately went to see Prince after the first show that night. The other 2 were Cee Lo and another artist. This was documented in investigation reports-Judith Hill’s admitted this. Prince also said that night in the hospital that ‘someone gave it to him to relax’.


rolleyes


It was NOTHING strange about Prince personally meeting the guy from Electric Fetus at his ATL show.Since two days later Prince had arranged with that very store to set aside HUNDREDS of his LAST beautiful concert programs(which I was the first to purchase)for his adoring fans, from his SOLD OUT P&M goodbye tour.
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"That mountain top situation is not really what it's all cracked up 2 B when eye was doing the Purple Rain tour eye had a lot of people who eye knew eye'll never c again @ the concerts.just screamin n places they thought they was suppose 2 scream."prince
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Reply #208 posted 10/10/18 10:59am

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ChocolateBox3121 said:

leec1 said:


I have indicated a possibility of what cash was used for. The source of the drugs wasn't found and using cash leaves no paper trail.
How do you know what he used cash for
?
You are exaggerating how much space would be taken up to store the drugs.


And how do U know the “possibility” of why he had it withdrawn?


Oh come on Chocolate! That is a very reasonable conclusion he purchased drugs with that cash!!! It wasn't like he was going to the gentleman's club.
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Reply #209 posted 10/10/18 11:26am

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Oh come on Chocolate! That is a very reasonable conclusion he purchased drugs with that cash!!! It wasn't like he was going to the gentleman's club.

Well he could've went to a gentlemens club, too! lol

[Edited 10/10/18 11:26am]

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