peggyon said:

Sharon is lying. They all knew he was addicted in the 80's. How do you think he did 7 consecutive concerts in a row. A friend of mine got backstage and said cocaine was everywhere

SanDiegoFunkDaddy said:

PennyPurple said:

PennyPurple said

It may be true.

But why were the pills with fentanyl separated?...

Most nights, I go right to sleep as soon as my head hits the pillow. But occasionally I have trouble staying asleep all night. So I have both Nytol and hayfever pills on opposite sides of my night stand. Depending on what time I wake up during the night — two hours before or four hours before I have to get up for work — I'll reach for one or the other depending on what strength I think I want. The hay fever pills and the Nytol are both in the category of OTC medications called "Antihistamines". The former having a lower strength than the latter.

My "left side/hayfever pills — right side/Nytol" system works very well for me. I wake up, it's dark, I don't want to turn on the lights because that would make me even more awake. I've trained myself to reach for the appropriate side of the night stand pretty much on the instinct that comes from a long-term self-medication habit.

Sometimes, though, as I'm fumbling around in the dark to pop one or two of either pill out of their respective blister packs, sometimes I'm all butter fingers and a pill goes flying and lands heaven knows where. On the floor? In between the folds of my blanket? Or, most often, into a tiny black hole — where a lot of socks, sunglasses, hand tools and whatnot seem to go — never ever to be seen again.

That's why it's not hard for me to imagine that a super-organized person dependent on counterfeit opioid pain killers might have a similar system for the different levels of opioid pain relief they might need under different conditions.

One system I could imagine might work to categorize different counterfeit opioid pill strengths, is an alphabetical system. For example, "A" for heavy duty relief; "B" for mild-to-middling relief and "C" for light relief. But how could I separate them into an inconspicuous but also super convenient, easily-memorized way? Well, I know mnemonics help me to remember stuff. So I might put the "A" pills in an Advil container. I might put the "B" pills in a Bayer container. And I might put the "C" pills in a vitamin C container. Or some such.

But that's just me ;¬)

I take issue with the fact that when opioid abuse is mentioned in the media, there is either a picture of Prince next to it, or it mentions Prince. I'm glad you find comfort in that, but I don't.

I will wait to watch 20/20 and see who else they mention, or what other celebrity family they interview.

Just like the article in the top news story on google several months ago, when Bethany Frankel's boyfriend OD'd. The story had nothing to do with Prince, didn't mention Prince, but had Prince's picture on it, and didn't even have the guy who died picture attached to the story.

And if you think everyone who comments about Prince's death is a troll or hater, you are wrong. But alas, YOU & Rogi never fail to comment on those threads.

Death is a part of life. You can't run from it. It's coming after all of us. Do you think that by not talking about, it won't come?

rogifan said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

I meant done more besides being a chef

Yeah! Right? This to me...

"... I just knew I couldn’t have [Prince] in my life anymore..."

...sounds like she was doing a lot more than cheffing. That sounds like she was doing Prince at some juncture. Heh-heh!

ph4tphuk said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

I meant done more besides being a chef

Yeah! Right? This to me...

"... I just knew I couldn’t have [Prince] in my life anymore..."

...sounds like she was doing a lot more than cheffing. That sounds like she was doing Prince at some juncture. Heh-heh!

littlemissG said:

Krystalkisses said:

littlemissG said:

Indon’t Think that was what she meant. Remember to work for Prince is a 24/7 job. Imagine be on call to someone with erratic behavior, how stressful is that.

I can't imagine...it really made me sad when she said she felt like he was fading away..that must have been really hard to witness.

And to tell people in his inner circle and they did nothing about it.

PennyPurple said:

Mumio said:

sonshine said:

Mumio said:

Yep, I've got great concern for those who need these drugs legitimately and have to jump through hoops now to be pain-free.

That's the problem. The latest findings are that no one has a legit reason to be on these drugs. Not even "chronic pain" patients. But we now have a country full of "legit" people addicted, dependent (whatever you want to call it) on these drugs that aren't truly helping them. They now recommend patients not use these drugs for longer than 3-4 days max. They are not beneficial beyond that time. The people who think they need these meds to survive their chronic pain are merely trying to avoid withdrawl. The pain relieving component has been lost. Whether they realize or accept that or not it's the nature of how this plays out in the human body.

Sorry sonshine, I have got to disagree with you on this one. Again, as I've said before my hubby has severe chronic pain issues. Chronic pain sufferers DO need something to control the pain. After being on these drugs for years, yes it doesn't help anymore because they are tolerant, they don't become tolerant in 3-4 days. They become tolerant then they have to up the dose, and now there is a problem. They have got to come up with something better.

In this day and age nobody should have to suffer severe chronic pain, like my husband suffers. And he is not on these opioids any more. You see it's hard for the people who suffer to even get these drugs now.

I highly take offense to your statement that "the people who think they need these meds to survive their chronic pain are merely trying to avoid withdrawl. "

I live with a person in severe chronic pain. I see it and have to deal with it every.single.day. I see him trying to fight it, with tears running down his face. I see him, like this morning where he fell because his legs are jello and his arms will not stop shaking and he throws his hands up and begs for God's mercy.

These days it's easier to buy the pain meds off the streets then to get a legal prescription for them.

Do you not realize what all pain patients have to do, to get a legal script? They have to sign contracts with the Dr. and the Pharmacy. They can only get their scripts at the Pharmacy they signed the contract with and the Dr's office. They have to take drug tests every month. Not just a piss test, the test is so complete that it tells them exactly what is in your system and the amount, then they compare that to what they prescribe.

My husband is on a common sleeping pill, he gets 30 a month, until the insurance company decided that he only needed 15 a month....does it make any sense? Seriously.

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

The above is a longer article about tonight's episode on 20/20...

At one point in that vid, the sister talks about how Prince — disliking being emotionally attached to people — to where if someone was staying with him for an extended visit and he got fed up with them after two days, he'd hand them their luggage and tell them, "Ya gots t' go!"

LOL!

I wonder if she's trying to say Prince did that to her.

[Edited 9/29/18 11:52am]

Thanks for including realistic accounts of the trials that pain sufferers have to go through. I know folks are mad at prince because they believe that his illegal obtaining of drugs has made it harder for pain sufferers to get legitimate prescriptions, but I suspect that that particular problem preceded Prince's death and may have actually led to his own procuring of drugs outside the medical and legal system. (I argue that Michael Jackson's death and the imprisonment of his doctor might have been a bigger contributor to the problem, because obviously doctors don't like going to prison.) Prince obviously didn't stay in one place. He needed pain pills on the road..Well, he also needed to take a rest (but that's a whole other matter). The bureaucracy of getting him pain medication and pain treatment was probably a bit of a nightmare in and of itself. BTW, I am sorry to hear about what your loved one is going through. This problem really needs better solutions than those that are in place right now.

PennyPurple said:

sonshine said:

Mumio said: That's the problem. The latest findings are that no one has a legit reason to be on these drugs. Not even "chronic pain" patients. But we now have a country full of "legit" people addicted, dependent (whatever you want to call it) on these drugs that aren't truly helping them. They now recommend patients not use these drugs for longer than 3-4 days max. They are not beneficial beyond that time. The people who think they need these meds to survive their chronic pain are merely trying to avoid withdrawl. The pain relieving component has been lost. Whether they realize or accept that or not it's the nature of how this plays out in the human body.

Sorry sonshine, I have got to disagree with you on this one. Again, as I've said before my hubby has severe chronic pain issues. Chronic pain sufferers DO need something to control the pain. After being on these drugs for years, yes it doesn't help anymore because they are tolerant, they don't become tolerant in 3-4 days. They become tolerant then they have to up the dose, and now there is a problem. They have got to come up with something better.

In this day and age nobody should have to suffer severe chronic pain, like my husband suffers. And he is not on these opioids any more. You see it's hard for the people who suffer to even get these drugs now.

I highly take offense to your statement that "the people who think they need these meds to survive their chronic pain are merely trying to avoid withdrawl. "

I live with a person in severe chronic pain. I see it and have to deal with it every.single.day. I see him trying to fight it, with tears running down his face. I see him, like this morning where he fell because his legs are jello and his arms will not stop shaking and he throws his hands up and begs for God's mercy.

These days it's easier to buy the pain meds off the streets then to get a legal prescription for them.

Do you not realize what all pain patients have to do, to get a legal script? They have to sign contracts with the Dr. and the Pharmacy. They can only get their scripts at the Pharmacy they signed the contract with and the Dr's office. They have to take drug tests every month. Not just a piss test, the test is so complete that it tells them exactly what is in your system and the amount, then they compare that to what they prescribe.

My husband is on a common sleeping pill, he gets 30 a month, until the insurance company decided that he only needed 15 a month....does it make any sense? Seriously.

She is saying that but she didn't say in such brutal way. She implied that he also didn't like saying goodbye and that it was hard for him to get emotionally attached. In other words, there was undercurrent of vulnerability implied, not misanthropy.

ph4tphuk said:

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

The above is a longer article about tonight's episode on 20/20...

At one point in that vid, the sister talks about how Prince — disliking being emotionally attached to people — to where if someone was staying with him for an extended visit and he got fed up with them after two days, he'd hand them their luggage and tell them, "Ya gots t' go!"

LOL!

I wonder if she's trying to say Prince did that to her.

[Edited 9/29/18 11:52am]

Where is the new installment of the "how Prince died/death investigation" thread? Is that laptop fixed yet? This interview ... please. What does Sharon need to sell? And the chef? Means nothing to me. She wasn't feeding him the last six months of his life IIRC.

SanDiegoFunkDaddy said:

Sharon is lying. They all knew he was addicted in the 80's. How do you think he did 7 consecutive concerts in a row. A friend of mine got backstage and said cocaine was everywhere

ironically ...it wasnt those type of drugs that did him in....

Good point. Why interview someone from 2012? It gives the impression that Prince just spent the last 4 years of his life fading away. Context is missing a bit. in 2012, Prince was just finishing a very long and probably physically taxing concert tour. He might have been taking more pills than he was a few years later when the physical demands were less intense. I imagine his drug problem was a bit more off and on or varying in it's intensity and/or severity for the next four years. The people who need to be interviewed are the folks around him in the last year (or at least interviewed alongside people like her). Ironically or not so ironically, P was also in the middle of a tour when his problem reached fatal proportions.

1Sasha said:

Where is the new installment of the "how Prince died/death investigation" thread? Is that laptop fixed yet? This interview ... please. What does Sharon need to sell? And the chef? Means nothing to me. She wasn't feeding him the last six months of his life IIRC.

SkipperLove said:

Good point. Why interview someone from 2012? It gives the impression that Prince just spent the last 4 years of his life fading away. Context is missing a bit. in 2012, Prince was just finishing a very long and probably physically taxing concert tour. He might have been taking more pills than he was a few years later when the physical demands were less intense. I imagine his drug problem was a bit more off and on or varying in it's intensity and/or severity for the next four years. The people who need to be interviewed are the folks around him in the last year (or at least interviewed alongside people like her). Ironically or not so ironically, P was also in the middle of a tour when his problem reached fatal proportions.

1Sasha said:

Where is the new installment of the "how Prince died/death investigation" thread? Is that laptop fixed yet? This interview ... please. What does Sharon need to sell? And the chef? Means nothing to me. She wasn't feeding him the last six months of his life IIRC.

how many shows did he do from 2012-2018? we know how many freakin albums he made (unreleased)

SkipperLove said:

Good point. Why interview someone from 2012? It gives the impression that Prince just spent the last 4 years of his life fading away. Context is missing a bit. in 2012, Prince was just finishing a very long and probably physically taxing concert tour. He might have been taking more pills than he was a few years later when the physical demands were less intense. I imagine his drug problem was a bit more off and on or varying in it's intensity and/or severity for the next four years. The people who need to be interviewed are the folks around him in the last year (or at least interviewed alongside people like her). Ironically or not so ironically, P was also in the middle of a tour when his problem reached fatal proportions.

1Sasha said:

Where is the new installment of the "how Prince died/death investigation" thread? Is that laptop fixed yet? This interview ... please. What does Sharon need to sell? And the chef? Means nothing to me. She wasn't feeding him the last six months of his life IIRC.

Crystal was still close enough for insiders to call her and ask her to help them find rehab for P.

SanDiegoFunkDaddy said:

SoulAlive said:

SanDiegoFunkDaddy said:

Sharon is lying. They all knew he was addicted in the 80's. How do you think he did 7 consecutive concerts in a row. A friend of mine got backstage and said cocaine was everywhere

Real fake news.

ChocolateBox3121 said:

peggyon said:

Penny, is this Prince's assistant, Crystal from 2010? The one who said she could not stay with Prince because of his drug use?

Crystal started off his chef. Then she turned into his assistant and other things.

Are there 2 Crystal's? And is this the same one in the investigative files? Because I can't figure it out.