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Reply #60 posted 09/01/18 9:21pm

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SoulAlive said:

Vannormal said:

There will always be illegal material circulating. Prince was eager when he recorded something and was pretty messy with his stuff in his own camp, don't forget that.

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Reply #61 posted 09/01/18 10:21pm

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OperatingThetan said:

The Estate need to seriously consider re-establishing the NPGMC for hardcore fans. At the moment, they're only concentrating on releases intended for popular consumption. While they continue solely with that approach, there will always be demand for unofficial recordings, free or at cost, from some source.

CO SIGN..

All his music in one place...

the ENTIRE BACK CATALOGUE

and ALL HIS LIVE Performances including rehearsals

thank you very much...

and if anyone is watching listening or reading.

That Prince Estate website is a NIGHTMARE...

It needs a total overhaul...

I can even..my eyes go googley goo....

and fall out of my head !!!!!!!!!

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Reply #62 posted 09/01/18 10:26pm

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^^^^^ I liked the NPGMC store.....

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Reply #63 posted 09/01/18 10:43pm

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^^^^^ I liked the NPGMC store.....

ME TOO....

Image result for NPGMC

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Reply #64 posted 09/02/18 1:17am

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TrevorAyer said:

The estate clearly fucked up the vault and is relegated to sueing EYE to get access to more recordings ... considering the poor sourced material already released they seem to be grasping at straws for material when a simple high quality vault sourced set would put an end to interest in anything eye releases ... the estate is run by crackheads who will never release anything good and will only make a peep when they get mad at those putting out better material than they can be bothered to ... the estate isn’t trying to preserve prince legacy .. they are trying to destroy it cuz they are all hateful


I think that's quite a leap to believe that.

It takes more than a leap of faith, it's absolute nonsense.

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Reply #65 posted 09/02/18 1:20am

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TrevorAyer said:

the estate isn’t trying to preserve prince legacy .. they are trying to destroy it cuz they are all hateful

Does your country have access to adequate mental health resources?

lol

It's all the more ridiculous coming from someone who spat hate at Prince all the time when Prince was alive, and called you a bully when you told him to cut the crap rolleyes

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Reply #66 posted 09/02/18 2:50am

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This will make a lot of people happy.

^ok Rdhull I hope u are 100% sarcastic..

This is a such a very stupid move from the P family (estate).. mad sad

If they were releaseing great material (themselves - the estate), concerts etc to satisfy the Prince-community, ok then.


They are NOT, 2 years has passed, look at the upcoming ridiculous release.. now, we have to wait til 2019 and then HOPE they are in charge to release something interesting for the hardcores..


My confidense + hopes are so small, those/ estate they are not aware, what should be released and in what way..

Personally I need BOXSETS - remasters 1978 to 1995 (the WB stuff) with BONUS to each album..

Peace, don't be angry at the boot labels they are here to help u...

IMHO they are doing an excellent job for the fans (bootleggers),


(the estate hasn't done anything good.. (yet))

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Reply #67 posted 09/02/18 3:51am

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I must say, this tickles me.
With their cash grab releases full of rehash filler, pressing and selling fan-made free releases, and putting out €50-70+ sets to accommodate 1 or 2 new leaks and timing such releases in an attempt to undermine Estate releases so far, you can't say they don't deserve it.
Say what you will about the Estate's releases so far (or lack thereof) that doesn't give this clusterfuck of a label the right to make a living out of the now finite vault material that the Estate will come to rely on.
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Reply #68 posted 09/02/18 6:28am

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Reply #69 posted 09/03/18 1:45am

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^^ comment to Azifwekare319:

I must say ur avatar made me smile..!

(thank u).. biggrin



"Lovesex" forever, haha.... lol lol lol

The most embarrassed moment at Paisley Park was this girl... confused cool

Ok she was and probably still is very beautiful, but what a mistake like she had no idea at all about the Prince music.. and didn't she call Larry Graham "Jimi Hendrix"? or was it the oppisite..?

Ok a little off topic my comment here, my mood just got a little better seing that avatar: cool




Now, please back to the "estate" discussion.... how they just cannot handle the "releases".. so it seems.. imho it is so terrible, it can only get better from here. sad sad sad sad sad

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Reply #70 posted 09/03/18 2:44am

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thedance said:

^^ comment to Azifwekare319:

I must say ur avatar made me smile..!

(thank u).. biggrin



"Lovesex" forever, haha.... lol lol lol

The most embarrassed moment at Paisley Park was this girl... confused cool

Ok she was and probably still is very beautiful, but what a mistake like she had no idea at all about the Prince music.. and didn't she call Larry Graham "Jimi Hendrix"? or was it the oppisite..?

Ok a little off topic my comment here, my mood just got a little better seing that avatar: cool




Now, please back to the "estate" discussion.... how they just cannot handle the "releases".. so it seems.. imho it is so terrible, it can only get better from here. sad sad sad sad sad

My jam!

Is the video for this officially available anywhere? I watched the live stream but haven't seen it since and would love to.

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Reply #71 posted 09/03/18 8:47am

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Mounting lawsuits will only piss off the bootleggers

and they will go harder underground to places the estate can't reach.

They need to be worried about keeping Paisley Park open. eek

Pissed off consumers don't buy things from the company they are upset with.

If people were really upset with bootleggers there would be no market for bootlegs.

**mic drop**

SuperFurryAnimal said:

I like the part that the will bring lawsuit on anyone. I wore an NPG old school hockey Jersey to a Paisley Park party once and Donna's husband came over and started a conversation "where did you buy that jersey man? You know we don't look kindly on bootlegger merch.". I kindly explained it was sold directly from 1800NEWFUNK back when they actually made cool merch and it is still heavily sought after. They just don't get it. One release a year LOL. This will fire up people to secretly drop all they got especially if they don't release music. Though it is the right of them to
go after people from personal experience they are kind of clueless.

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Reply #72 posted 09/03/18 8:50am

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lol lol lol awesome!!

Princ3fan046 said:

Mounting lawsuits will only piss off the bootleggers

and they will go harder underground to places the estate can't reach.

They need to be worried about keeping Paisley Park open. eek

Pissed off consumers don't buy things from the company they are upset with.

If people were really upset with bootleggers there would be no market for bootlegs.

**mic drop**

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Reply #73 posted 09/03/18 9:24am

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Princ3fan046 said:

Mounting lawsuits will only piss off the bootleggers

and they will go harder underground to places the estate can't reach.

They need to be worried about keeping Paisley Park open. eek

Pissed off consumers don't buy things from the company they are upset with.

If people were really upset with bootleggers there would be no market for bootlegs.

**mic drop**


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Reply #74 posted 09/03/18 9:51am

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Princ3fan046 said:

Mounting lawsuits will only piss off the bootleggers

and they will go harder underground to places the estate can't reach.

They need to be worried about keeping Paisley Park open. eek

Pissed off consumers don't buy things from the company they are upset with.

If people were really upset with bootleggers there would be no market for bootlegs.

**mic drop**

To be honest creating a "label" maybe isn't the smartest way to keep a low profile. The days when Italy allowed you to have an office address for your bootleg company are long gone. I've always wondered how Sabotage for example could release hundreds of Prince boots and get away with it, I guess Prince was careless. But make it a one by one anonymous release without a label and you'll make it harder for the copyright owners to sue you for a whole catalogue: better to be caught for one or 2 releases than for 50.

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Reply #75 posted 09/03/18 10:13am

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To be honest creating a "label" maybe isn't the smartest way to keep a low profile. The days when Italy allowed you to have an office address for your bootleg company are long gone. I've always wondered how Sabotage for example could release hundreds of Prince boots and get away with it, I guess Prince was careless. But make it a one by one anonymous release without a label and you'll make it harder for the copyright owners to sue you for a whole catalogue: better to be caught for one or 2 releases than for 50.

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It's about marketing. If you create a label and produce high quality stuff, you can gain reputation amongst the collectors and you will sell a lot more as people will start collecting your releases.
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The risks of getting caught are very slim.
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Reply #76 posted 09/03/18 10:55am

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Kares said:

databank said:

To be honest creating a "label" maybe isn't the smartest way to keep a low profile. The days when Italy allowed you to have an office address for your bootleg company are long gone. I've always wondered how Sabotage for example could release hundreds of Prince boots and get away with it, I guess Prince was careless. But make it a one by one anonymous release without a label and you'll make it harder for the copyright owners to sue you for a whole catalogue: better to be caught for one or 2 releases than for 50.

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It's about marketing. If you create a label and produce high quality stuff, you can gain reputation amongst the collectors and you will sell a lot more as people will start collecting your releases.
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The risks of getting caught are very slim.
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Yeah I realized that. Now about the risks of getting caught they're only as slim as the people whose copyright you infrige's will to fight copyright infrigement. If the Estate wants to find them they will, those bootlegs are not paid in bitcoins on the darkwab.

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Reply #77 posted 09/03/18 11:03am

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Kares said:

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It's about marketing. If you create a label and produce high quality stuff, you can gain reputation amongst the collectors and you will sell a lot more as people will start collecting your releases.
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The risks of getting caught are very slim.
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[Edited 9/3/18 10:13am]

Yeah I realized that. Now about the risks of getting caught they're only as slim as the people whose copyright you infrige's will to fight copyright infrigement. If the Estate wants to find them they will,

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Don't hold your breath... Unless the bootleggers are stupid, they can be extremely hard to be tracked down and taken to court as I think the estate will soon find out for themselves.

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Reply #78 posted 09/03/18 11:48am

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Kares said:

databank said:

Yeah I realized that. Now about the risks of getting caught they're only as slim as the people whose copyright you infrige's will to fight copyright infrigement. If the Estate wants to find them they will,

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Don't hold your breath... Unless the bootleggers are stupid, they can be extremely hard to be tracked down and taken to court as I think the estate will soon find out for themselves.

If we know who's behind Eye Records (and many people in this community do, it really isn't much of a secret), I'm pretty sure the Estate's top dollars lawyers can find out pretty easily.

Now as to proving shit in a court of law, it's another matter of course, but when it comes to getting caught those guys aren't drugs or arms dealers: we're not talking about organized crime and accounts in the Bahamas here lol

But like I said above, I hope the Estate is just scaring 'em off and that no one will get hurt.

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Reply #79 posted 09/03/18 11:50am

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databank said:

Princ3fan046 said:

Mounting lawsuits will only piss off the bootleggers

and they will go harder underground to places the estate can't reach.

They need to be worried about keeping Paisley Park open. eek

Pissed off consumers don't buy things from the company they are upset with.

If people were really upset with bootleggers there would be no market for bootlegs.

**mic drop**

To be honest creating a "label" maybe isn't the smartest way to keep a low profile. The days when Italy allowed you to have an office address for your bootleg company are long gone. I've always wondered how Sabotage for example could release hundreds of Prince boots and get away with it, I guess Prince was careless. But make it a one by one anonymous release without a label and you'll make it harder for the copyright owners to sue you for a whole catalogue: better to be caught for one or 2 releases than for 50.

That makes me wonder what countries still allow factory pressed boots... hmmm

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Reply #80 posted 09/03/18 2:26pm

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SoulAlive said:

hmmm I understand why the estate is suing and they certainly have the right to but.....I just think that it's too late (and kinda pointless) to go after the bootleggers.Prince bootlegs have been circulating since the 80s! So much stuff is already out there and make no mistake,it will continue to circulate forever.Eye Records is just one of many,many sources to obtain this stuff.



What the estate should be doing is trying to find a way to beat the bootleggers at their own game.....maybe set up a NPG Music Club type of service where fans can legally purchase unreleased Prince music,concerts,etc.



I agree and will add I really believe Crystal Ball had an effect on the value of many bootlegs. If certain tracks were on a bootleg but in better quality on official release it had a diminishing effect on bootlegs value. The estate would be smart to roll out CB 2 and 3 as Prince intended. Most of the stuff Prince half assed released probably as well could be repackaged, resold over the web and plenty of it. I think it is the right of them to be able to release what they want I also don't know about Tyka if she has all the control over releases, I think other siblings would have an equal say but she tends to try to be the voice. I also don't believe going after them legally will help. Think about this what if they lose. Especially if some laws are screwy in other countries.
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Reply #81 posted 09/03/18 2:29pm

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Lovejunky said:



luv4u said:


^^^^^ I liked the NPGMC store.....



ME TOO....


Image result for NPGMC



Sam Jennings did the best work for Prince online. Wish they would just contact him and restart something like NPGMC.
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Reply #82 posted 09/03/18 3:10pm

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SuperFurryAnimal said:

Lovejunky said:



luv4u said:


^^^^^ I liked the NPGMC store.....



ME TOO....


Image result for NPGMC



Sam Jennings did the best work for Prince online. Wish they would just contact him and restart something like NPGMC.


Agreed. Sam Jennings would be the man for that.
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Reply #83 posted 09/03/18 3:43pm

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OperatingThetan said:

SuperFurryAnimal said:
Sam Jennings did the best work for Prince online. Wish they would just contact him and restart something like NPGMC.
Agreed. Sam Jennings would be the man for that.

Very Hard to understand why they havent involved him more in everything online....

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Reply #84 posted 09/04/18 7:13am

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thedance said:

^^ comment to Azifwekare319:

I must say ur avatar made me smile..!

(thank u).. biggrin



"Lovesex" forever, haha.... lol lol lol

The most embarrassed moment at Paisley Park was this girl... confused cool

Ok she was and probably still is very beautiful, but what a mistake like she had no idea at all about the Prince music.. and didn't she call Larry Graham "Jimi Hendrix"? or was it the oppisite..?

Ok a little off topic my comment here, my mood just got a little better seing that avatar: cool



Haha, yes, it really has to be seen to be believed! The mental gymnastics she must have gone through when she got to that mural was pretty amazing.

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My jam!

Is the video for this officially available anywhere? I watched the live stream but haven't seen it since and would love to.


I saw it live too but have only been able to find a really low quality video of it that I haven't even watched properly yet. Can't remember where I even found it. A decent video of this seems impossible to find, which is a shame as it was a really fun watch.
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Reply #85 posted 09/04/18 11:37am

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Well, I do find it funny when people get mad when TIDAL releases material "you've already heard" when you were never supposed to have it in the first place. razz

But I swear that Prince's 4Ever had Eye Records' Blast From The Past's copy of "Moonbeam Levels" on there. wink

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Reply #86 posted 09/04/18 11:57am

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SchlomoThaHomo said:

This lawsuit is a Blast From The Past. It's almost like he's still with us! lol

lol

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Reply #87 posted 09/04/18 11:59am

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I liked their album artwork, but apparently that is the main part of this infringement lawsuit.

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Reply #88 posted 09/04/18 12:41pm

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not a coincidence this is being done to coincide with the 9/21 release

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Reply #89 posted 09/04/18 3:18pm

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It looks like the Estate knows exactly who's behind Eye and where they are:
http://www.startribune.co...492422931/
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