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EYE RECORDS SUED OVER BOOTLEGS

http://www.tmz.com/2018/0...e-records/

Prince's Estate Sues Record Label for Bootlegging His Music, Jacking His Trademark

0830-prince-serious-getty-4.jpgPrince's estate is going after a record label, claiming it's run by a group of bootleggers conspiring to cash in by jacking his tunes and plastering the Prince logo on all their rip-off merchandise.

Prince's estate just filed docs -- obtained by TMZ -- against Eye Records ... which the estate says is described as a "bootleg label dedicated to Prince." According to the docs ... Eye Records has illegally released 18 Prince compilations since Prince died in 2016, including CD sets titled 'Blast From The Past.'

Eye Records allegedly uses the online store newlovesigne.com to sell the bootlegged music, which includes live performances and unreleased studio tracks ... like "Prince Atlanta," which contain live recordings of the musician in his last-ever show.

Prince's estate is suing the record label and the individuals it believes are involved in the bootlegging scheme for monetary damages ... including $2 million for every one of their alleged Prince trademark violations ... and they claim there are a lot.

A rep for Prince's estate tells us, "There was nothing more important to Prince than the quality of his music and how his fans experienced it. With this filing, our hope is to preserve the integrity of the music and remain true to Prince's wishes."

The rep also issues a warning to anyone else who might try and jack Prince's work, saying, "The Prince Estate will prosecute to the fullest extent of the law all unlawful distributors and sources of Prince's intellectual property."

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Reply #1 posted 08/31/18 1:14pm

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This will make a lot of people happy.

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Reply #2 posted 08/31/18 1:49pm

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Perhaps if the estate had released 18 compilations in that time people would have bought from them and the market for Eye would have vapourised. They could have had plenty of dollars in their pockets and while I certainly don't buy any Eye releases, I'd have no problem giving my money to the estate for decent releases.

If this helps us see more free label releases or releases from collectors because they know Eye won't sell them on, then that might be a god though though.

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Reply #3 posted 08/31/18 1:56pm

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TheEnglishGent said:

Perhaps if the estate had released 18 compilations in that time people would have bought from them and the market for Eye would have vapourised. They could have had plenty of dollars in their pockets and while I certainly don't buy any Eye releases, I'd have no problem giving my money to the estate for decent releases.

If this helps us see more free label releases or releases from collectors because they know Eye won't sell them on, then that might be a god though though.

Stop blaming the estate or Prince for other people conducting illegal enterprises.

And everytime I scratch my nails down someone else's back I hope you feel it.. WELL CAN YA FEEL IT?!
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Reply #4 posted 08/31/18 2:02pm

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This will make a lot of people happy.


It worked out so well when Metallica did it.

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Reply #5 posted 08/31/18 2:07pm

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Perhaps they should look at releases like the "Blast from the Past" series and see how many were sold and take a cue from that and give us some good compilations like those sets! Eye Records was releasing things we were all interested in. Imagine how great these collections could be if the estate put them together. Just dreaming. smile Now bring on Piano/microphone 1983! lol

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Reply #6 posted 08/31/18 2:17pm

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Sorry just because the estate isn’t getting out new releases quick enough for die hards doesn’t mean others can infringe in his IP.
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Reply #7 posted 08/31/18 2:19pm

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TrivialPursuit said:

rdhull said:

This will make a lot of people happy.


It worked out so well when Metallica did it.

I meant how everyone hates eye records

And everytime I scratch my nails down someone else's back I hope you feel it.. WELL CAN YA FEEL IT?!
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Reply #8 posted 08/31/18 2:37pm

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They are right / it is their right to sue. But it’s going to make it harder for us to get new stuff. I hope the estate get their shit together and they start releasing good stuff, at a good pace. Otherwise it’s going to be a sad ride...
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Reply #9 posted 08/31/18 2:51pm

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Silvertongue7 said:

They are right / it is their right to sue. But it’s going to make it harder for us to get new stuff. I hope the estate get their shit together and they start releasing good stuff, at a good pace. Otherwise it’s going to be a sad ride...

Agreed.

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Reply #10 posted 08/31/18 2:54pm

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TheEnglishGent said:

Perhaps if the estate had released 18 compilations in that time people would have bought from them and the market for Eye would have vapourised. They could have had plenty of dollars in their pockets and while I certainly don't buy any Eye releases, I'd have no problem giving my money to the estate for decent releases.

If this helps us see more free label releases or releases from collectors because they know Eye won't sell them on, then that might be a god though though.


You're right. Bootlegs should have been officially released a looong time ago. Bob Dylan started doing it in 1991 and his Bootleg Series # 14 is about to hit the streets this year. Think about it! Volume 14! The Prince Estate is still at volume zero two years after the man passed. PR Deluxe and that piano album don't count.
And if Eye Records shuts down, they will just come back up under another name.
[Edited 8/31/18 14:56pm]
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Reply #11 posted 08/31/18 3:08pm

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NorthC said:

TheEnglishGent said:

Perhaps if the estate had released 18 compilations in that time people would have bought from them and the market for Eye would have vapourised. They could have had plenty of dollars in their pockets and while I certainly don't buy any Eye releases, I'd have no problem giving my money to the estate for decent releases.

If this helps us see more free label releases or releases from collectors because they know Eye won't sell them on, then that might be a god though though.


You're right. Bootlegs should have been officially released a looong time ago. Bob Dylan started doing it in 1991 and his Bootleg Series # 14 is about to hit the streets this year. Think about it! Volume 14! The Prince Estate is still at volume zero two years after the man passed. PR Deluxe and that piano album don't count.
And if Eye Records shuts down, they will just come back up under another name.
[Edited 8/31/18 14:56pm]



If the persons behind this label go to jail....there will a very long time before u see new things circulating...don't count on big collectors to give u unreleased stuff for pleasure of all...the sources are cut for real...nevertheless how can we criticize the heirs and the Estate...this is their rights to sue!
[Edited 8/31/18 15:09pm]
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Reply #14 posted 08/31/18 3:28pm

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I like the part that the will bring lawsuit on anyone. I wore an NPG old school hockey Jersey to a Paisley Park party once and Donna's husband came over and started a conversation "where did you buy that jersey man? You know we don't look kindly on bootlegger merch.". I kindly explained it was sold directly from 1800NEWFUNK back when they actually made cool merch and it is still heavily sought after. They just don't get it. One release a year LOL. This will fire up people to secretly drop all they got especially if they don't release music. Though it is the right of them to go after people from personal experience they are kind of clueless.
I think we can all collectively say.
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Reply #15 posted 08/31/18 3:46pm

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SuperFurryAnimal said:

I like the part that the will bring lawsuit on anyone. I wore an NPG old school hockey Jersey to a Paisley Park party once and Donna's husband came over and started a conversation "where did you buy that jersey man? You know we don't look kindly on bootlegger merch.". I kindly explained it was sold directly from 1800NEWFUNK back when they actually made cool merch and it is still heavily sought after. They just don't get it. One release a year LOL. This will fire up people to secretly drop all they got especially if they don't release music. Though it is the right of them to go after people from personal experience they are kind of clueless.

You guys cant threaten/ransom them to release what it is you desire. I hardly think the estate is reacting in an "Oh no! If we dont release a million things asap they are gonna have more bootleg releases! Call WB to get the vault released now!!"

And everytime I scratch my nails down someone else's back I hope you feel it.. WELL CAN YA FEEL IT?!
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Reply #16 posted 08/31/18 3:54pm

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The Estate need to seriously consider re-establishing the NPGMC for hardcore fans.

At the moment, they're only concentrating on releases intended for popular consumption. While they continue solely with that approach, there will always be demand for unofficial recordings, free or at cost, from some source.
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Reply #17 posted 08/31/18 4:01pm

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rdhull said:



SuperFurryAnimal said:


I like the part that the will bring lawsuit on anyone. I wore an NPG old school hockey Jersey to a Paisley Park party once and Donna's husband came over and started a conversation "where did you buy that jersey man? You know we don't look kindly on bootlegger merch.". I kindly explained it was sold directly from 1800NEWFUNK back when they actually made cool merch and it is still heavily sought after. They just don't get it. One release a year LOL. This will fire up people to secretly drop all they got especially if they don't release music. Though it is the right of them to go after people from personal experience they are kind of clueless.



You guys cant threaten/ransom them to release what it is you desire. I hardly think the estate is reacting in an "Oh no! If we dont release a million things asap they are gonna have more bootleg releases! Call WB to get the vault released now!!"



I agree 110% but also they have a supply and demand. They focus on supply but not the demand. We are older and many of us have substantial amount of income. So far I see a lot of lackluster releases and none of the items I jumped at except the books. Here is what I think people like you who have an obsession with Prince don't understand. Don't address the demand and people will move onto other artists and simply stream music.
I think we can all collectively say.
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Reply #18 posted 08/31/18 4:08pm

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OperatingThetan said:

The Estate need to seriously consider re-establishing the NPGMC for hardcore fans.

At the moment, they're only concentrating on releases intended for popular consumption. While they continue solely with that approach, there will always be demand for unofficial recordings, free or at cost, from some source.


True and I have money I would be willing to pay good money for limited NPGMC style releases. Even the jewelry others make better and that is a problem and I bet they are next. They just never understand demand and supply us with items as good as the ET Atari 2600 game.
I think we can all collectively say.
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Reply #19 posted 08/31/18 5:19pm

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There's no them...there's only us...
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Reply #20 posted 08/31/18 5:21pm

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This is what happens when you openly sell bootlegs. I'm surprised it hasn't happened sooner.

We were HERE, where were you?

4 those that knew the number and didn't call... fk all y'all!
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Reply #21 posted 08/31/18 5:37pm

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They were playing with fire when they were counterprogramming Estate releases (remember Rainmaker getting released around the same time as Purple Rain Deluxe?) and bragging about renting studio time to "remaster" songs.

Fuck em. All they did was sell elite trading circles files in a degraded form.
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Reply #22 posted 08/31/18 5:52pm

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SuperFurryAnimal said:

I like the part that the will bring lawsuit on anyone. I wore an NPG old school hockey Jersey to a Paisley Park party once and Donna's husband came over and started a conversation "where did you buy that jersey man? You know we don't look kindly on bootlegger merch.". I kindly explained it was sold directly from 1800NEWFUNK back when they actually made cool merch and it is still heavily sought after. They just don't get it. One release a year LOL. This will fire up people to secretly drop all they got especially if they don't release music. Though it is the right of them to go after people from personal experience they are kind of clueless.

I'm sure he was just acting on orders (lackey), but what a douche.

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Reply #23 posted 08/31/18 5:59pm

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You're right. Bootlegs should have been officially released a looong time ago. Bob Dylan started doing it in 1991 and his Bootleg Series # 14 is about to hit the streets this year. Think about it! Volume 14! The Prince Estate is still at volume zero two years after the man passed. PR Deluxe and that piano album don't count.
And if Eye Records shuts down, they will just come back up under another name.


Worth keeping in mind that Bob Dylan's Bootleg Series started in 1991 and didn't start receiving regular releases until 2000. It's going to take awhile to get this train rolling. Also funny how the Vault disc with PRD and P&M83 don't count in your mind as releases lol

And this lawsuit will bankrupt them so they're done. There's no coming back if they don't have a piggy bank to buy tapes and files.
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Reply #24 posted 08/31/18 6:41pm

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rdhull said:



TheEnglishGent said:


Perhaps if the estate had released 18 compilations in that time people would have bought from them and the market for Eye would have vapourised. They could have had plenty of dollars in their pockets and while I certainly don't buy any Eye releases, I'd have no problem giving my money to the estate for decent releases.

If this helps us see more free label releases or releases from collectors because they know Eye won't sell them on, then that might be a god though though.



Stop blaming the estate or Prince for other people conducting illegal enterprisies.

[Edited 8/31/18 13:56pm]


Not entirely sure how I’m blaming the estate for anything.
RIP sad
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Reply #25 posted 08/31/18 7:07pm

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Should have replied: we fans dont take kindly to bullshit production values

SuperFurryAnimal said:

I wore an NPG old school hockey Jersey to a Paisley Park party once and Donna's husband came over and started a conversation "where did you buy that jersey man? You know we don't look kindly on bootlegger merch.".
And everytime I scratch my nails down someone else's back I hope you feel it.. WELL CAN YA FEEL IT?!
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Reply #26 posted 08/31/18 8:44pm

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The Estate need to seriously consider re-establishing the NPGMC for hardcore fans. At the moment, they're only concentrating on releases intended for popular consumption. While they continue solely with that approach, there will always be demand for unofficial recordings, free or at cost, from some source.

I couldnt agree more... I get why they are trying to appeal to the general public...

BUT - they are leaving SO MUCH on the table when it comes to the die hard fans..

Even celebration felt like it was geared towards novice prince fans..... like when they asked us if anyone hear and seen "Graffiti Bridge"...hmmm, we flew here from around the world, found hotels and paid $1000 to be here and no we never went to our movie theater to see a Prince movie...

or.. we are going to show you some rare footage today.... and... it is Question of U from Nude Tour... right, none of us had seen that either

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rdhull said:

Should have replied: we fans dont take kindly to bullshit production values



SuperFurryAnimal said:


I wore an NPG old school hockey Jersey to a Paisley Park party once and Donna's husband came over and started a conversation "where did you buy that jersey man? You know we don't look kindly on bootlegger merch.".



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Reply #28 posted 08/31/18 9:07pm

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So I guess we won't be a getting another BFTP neutral

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Reply #29 posted 08/31/18 9:22pm

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TrivialPursuit said:

rdhull said:

This will make a lot of people happy.


It worked out so well when Metallica did it.

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.... hmmm

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