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Reply #240 posted 09/20/18 10:14am

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antonb said:

annoying. Nothing in the UK

That's what y'all get for brexiting lol

Ha,Ha true. I didnt vote for it though!

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Reply #241 posted 09/20/18 10:18am

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Thought my amazon order would come early, no such luck!

Reliving the Crystal Ball trauma all over again? lol lol lol

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Reply #242 posted 09/20/18 10:19am

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databank said:

That's what y'all get for brexiting lol

Ha,Ha true. I didnt vote for it though!

Robert Schuman sends his grateful blessing from EU heaven wink

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Reply #243 posted 09/20/18 10:24am

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Interview with Michael Howe in Vulture: http://www.vulture.com/20...rview.html

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Meet the Guy Tasked With Archiving Prince’s Entire Vault

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By Dee Lockett

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Tucked away deep inside a maximum-security storage facility in Hollywood, the contents of Prince’s storied vault are being pored over daily in one of the most laborious research jobs in modern pop culture. Following his death in 2016, Prince’s fabled vault at Paisley Park was opened, and all of its secrets — reportedly “thousands and thousands” of unreleased recordings — moved to Iron Mountain, a data recovery center in Los Angeles, for safekeeping and to begin the work of figuring out what music, exactly, Prince had saved. At the helm of it all is one man: Michael Howe, a former record-label executive and Prince colleague who last year volunteered to oversee the excavation and preservation of Prince’s life work at the request of Prince’s estate, run by his heirs (the six siblings), the bank entrusted as its executor, and Troy Carter, the Spotify exec who also works as the estate’s entertainment adviser.

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Together, but mostly at Howe’s sole recommendation, they are working to catalog Prince’s archives so that some of it might eventually be released. This week, the estate releases Piano & a Microphone, one of Howe’s many findings that dates back to 1983. It features Prince singing alone at his piano — as he did on his final tour — covering Joni Mitchell and performing “Purple Rain.” Vulture spoke with Howe over the phone about working in total secrecy, protecting Prince’s wishes, and just how much music there is in the vault.

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When you come across a tape like Piano & a Microphone, what’s the process for verifying it’s from 1983?

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There are a couple ways we determine it. A lot of the things in the vault have very specific notes or distinguishing characteristics that date them within a couple of months. Or we can identify Prince’s writing, the engineer’s writing, or the kind of tape stock that was used. There are a many number of ways to narrow things down if we’re unsure. Also the material that’s being performed and the creative state that’s in, in some cases, gives us a pretty good idea about things that are less clearly marked. In the case of Piano & a Mic, this recording has floated around in the bootleg and collector community for a number of years, albeit in a very substandard audio quality. I was aware of it and found the performance so captivating.

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So one of the first things I attempted to do when taking the job was to see if we could locate the master recording, which I assumed was on cassette because of the era and sonic characteristics of it. So we did a bit of detective work and were able to narrow a wide pool of candidates. We spotted this one that had Prince’s handwriting on the label on side B and it said “Cold Coffee & Cocaine” and “Why the Butterflies,” which are the final two songs of the recordings. We were pretty sure we had it. Once we analyzed it, inserted it into the machine, and digitized it, we were fortunately correct.

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In those moments when you go to play the recording, does your heart ever skip a beat? The tapes could corrupt and the music’s gone forever.

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It hasn’t happened that often, but I’ve had tapes that have been damaged or needed to be baked.

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Baked?

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There’s a phenomenon of magnetic particles shedding on some kinds of analog tapes that makes it difficult or impossible to play them back without further damaging them. They have to be physically baked in a convection oven to reattach the magnetic particles. It’s a bizarre concept, but it works. We’ve had to do that on multiple occasions, but there’s never been a time yet that we’ve come across something that we’ve been salivating to hear that’s been irretrievably damaged.

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Prince’s personal wishes for how all this music should be commercialized is a big concern to his fans. When you find something like Piano & a Mic, where it’s an already completed nine-song tape vs. you all cherry-picking songs for a compilation, does that signal to you that this is maybe something Prince would’ve eventually put out himself when the time is right?

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That’s a $64 million question because we don’t know with certainty what Prince would’ve contemplated releasing at some point. It certainly was not in his line of sight at the time, otherwise it would’ve come out. He had pretty strong ideas about what was suitable for release and what wasn’t, but there were times, and I’m paraphrasing, that he said, “All these recordings in the vault at some point would see the light of day after I’m gone.” It represented the notion that a portion of these things would become available. When we are thinking about what might be appropriate for release, the first question is: Is this of the caliber that Prince would’ve deemed suitable for a theoretical release? Are we doing his legacy justice by putting this out there? Without exception, that’s the most important thing and we have to use our best judgement.

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Reply #244 posted 09/20/18 10:27am

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I gotta say: this release has been well promoted in the press by having various people available for interviews, even for the advance released tracks. Much better than with PR Deluxe.

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Reply #245 posted 09/20/18 2:02pm

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Jon Bream in the Star Tribune with a long article: http://www.startribune.co...493845601/

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Reply #246 posted 09/20/18 2:06pm

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Billboard interview with Michael Howe: https://www.billboard.com...-interview

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Reply #247 posted 09/20/18 2:39pm

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USA Today article on the album: https://usatoday.com/stor...346752002/

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Reply #248 posted 09/20/18 3:08pm

Silvertongue7

I was wondering, will this album be eligible for the Grammys and other awards, or does the fact that it is a 35 year old recording rule it out?
It is getting a lot more promotion than any recent Prince album and positive reviews everywhere, and Prince was ridiculously overlooked by the Grammys in particular, so I wonder whether they’ll try to push it during the awards season... if eligible, I can see it doing well in some of the minor categories.
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Reply #249 posted 09/20/18 3:20pm

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BartVanHemelen said:

I gotta say: this release has been well promoted in the press by having various people available for interviews, even for the advance released tracks. Much better than with PR Deluxe.



What I predicted, once again, comes true. That would have never happened with 1999 deluxe.
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Reply #250 posted 09/20/18 3:57pm

antonb

Ok i have listen to it. 35 minutes later, and im ready for the next release already! HELP!

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Reply #251 posted 09/20/18 4:13pm

luvsexy4all

how I LOOOONG for the days of waiting impatiently for a release date.....sadly a lost era......and this mfer aint helpin

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Reply #252 posted 09/20/18 4:30pm

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databank said:

Prince practically invented techno in his basement, years before Detroit, and no one knew!

Haha. I'm going to tell them.

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Reply #253 posted 09/20/18 5:30pm

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how I LOOOONG for the days of waiting impatiently for a release date.....sadly a lost era......and this mfer aint helpin

Agreed, but hopefully there is enough left and it gets released for our old asses to get by.

I am enjoying this release. It is emotional and I needed that right now.

Cause tomorrow is taking too long
and yesterday's too far away
and the reality that you believe in begins to bind.
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Reply #254 posted 09/20/18 6:20pm

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Reply #255 posted 09/20/18 7:04pm

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Forgiveness asked if I’m duplicating anyone else’s comments here, but my 2 cents is that any critic’s/writer’s opinion that compares this recording to any intentionally released recording, or treats any of these songs as comparable to any number of truly “produced” tracks, should be disregarded. This is a peek at Prince’s sketch pad, nothing more. It’s recorded technique and some glimpse into a creative process. It’s not finished. Period. There’s no point in reviewing these “tracks” individually as anything other than what they clearly are — outlines and tests and experiments. Review it and appreciate it as a whole, not as a collection.
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Reply #256 posted 09/20/18 7:11pm

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SkipperLove said:

https://www.dailymail.co....reign.html

Another good review.

Another good review because the critics are not fans... They are not the ones who have heard this boot 30 years ago, and waiting for a new release... That's why they are good reviews... Lets tally how many good reviews come from the fans about this release..

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Reply #257 posted 09/20/18 7:36pm

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feeluupp said:



SkipperLove said:


https://www.dailymail.co....reign.html



Another good review.




Another good review because the critics are not fans... They are not the ones who have heard this boot 30 years ago, and waiting for a new release... That's why they are good reviews... Lets tally how many good reviews come from the fans about this release..



Ok, here’s a “good review” from a fan of over 35 years. I love it, so speak for yourself.
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Reply #258 posted 09/20/18 8:41pm

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ThirdStrike said:

feeluupp said:

Another good review because the critics are not fans... They are not the ones who have heard this boot 30 years ago, and waiting for a new release... That's why they are good reviews... Lets tally how many good reviews come from the fans about this release..

Ok, here’s a “good review” from a fan of over 35 years. I love it, so speak for yourself.

Make it two biggrin

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Reply #259 posted 09/20/18 9:34pm

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It's not bad music whatsoever. However, its just really underwhelming as a post-humous release. Majority of the songs are just too short. Once I start to enjoy something (Purple Rain) its already over! Of course ill come back to this release frequently because I love his music dearly, but they can do better than this!
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Highlights:
17 Days
Mary Dont You Weep
Why the butterflies
prince
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Reply #260 posted 09/20/18 9:57pm

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TheKid94 said:

It's not bad music whatsoever. However, its just really underwhelming as a post-humous release. Majority of the songs are just too short. Once I start to enjoy something (Purple Rain) its already over! Of course ill come back to this release frequently because I love his music dearly, but they can do better than this! . Highlights: 17 Days Mary Dont You Weep Why the butterflies

If I may, I think you got it all wrong. The songs are neither too short or too long, they are what they are given that it was a private recording. And it's not about you (or anyone else) enjoying the music. it's not about us. It's about the music.

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Reply #261 posted 09/20/18 10:15pm

Silvertongue7

luvsexy4all said:

how I LOOOONG for the days of waiting impatiently for a release date.....sadly a lost era.....and this mfer aint helpin


Last night I got a notification saying that the album was available to download. So... I went to sleep.
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Reply #262 posted 09/20/18 11:27pm

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iZsaZsa said:

databank said:

Prince practically invented techno in his basement, years before Detroit, and no one knew!

Haha. I'm going to tell them.

You friends with the Detroit Godfathers of techno?

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Reply #263 posted 09/21/18 12:07am

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While listening now, this feels like going through his private stuff (which it was before).

This was not supose to be released for main audience, he's just jamming and trying out things, maybe rehearsing for one of that great aftershow moments....

Still listening and filed in the collection though.. eek

Thank God this ain't Monopoly
U'd make us all go back 2 start
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Reply #264 posted 09/21/18 12:27am

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Just listened for the first time and I love it. It will be tough to listen to as it does recall memories of his final tour, but I am very glad this has been released.

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Reply #265 posted 09/21/18 1:52am

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ok so now that this is out, we can start looking forward to an actual studio album
next year smile

i wonder how long it will be before we hear more details about the tital release.


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Reply #266 posted 09/21/18 2:10am

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I was wondering, will this album be eligible for the Grammys and other awards, or does the fact that it is a 35 year old recording rule it out?
It is getting a lot more promotion than any recent Prince album and positive reviews everywhere, and Prince was ridiculously overlooked by the Grammys in particular, so I wonder whether they’ll try to push it during the awards season... if eligible, I can see it doing well in some of the minor categories.
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You’re right about Prince being dogged out by the Grammys. He’s in good company though (Marvin Gaye, Sly, George Clinton, Marley, Jimi).

I would assume the album would eligible for several categories.
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Reply #267 posted 09/21/18 3:28am

mclihah2

UNDERWHELMING sad

I think this says it all - Sheesh - over 1 year since PR Deluxe, and this.

Makes me feel less guilty for listening to the oodles of "Blast From The Past" type compilations that I've been listening to.

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Reply #268 posted 09/21/18 3:33am

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Belgian musician Bart Peeters talks (in Dutch) about the anticipation he feels WRT this album in "Start je dag" on VRT radio: https://www.vrt.be/vrtnws...n-80-heel/

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Reply #269 posted 09/21/18 4:48am

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I like Piano & A Microphone 1983 and think I prefer it to ONA, however the tidal release will be far more interesting than this.
Best songs on this release:
17 Days
Mary Dont You Weep
International Lover
Cold Coffee & Cocaine

Making this the only release of the year is stupid, they should put rehearsals on a website where we can purchase them and focus more on studio albums like the tidal release.
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