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Thread started 07/24/18 6:48pm

Militant

moderator

**Uncovering Prince with Hans-Martin Buff** (Interview)

A little bit of a plug, but being a moderator has to come with perks, right? lol


Seriously though..... there is SO MUCH new, unknown information about Prince and his work in this interview.

I hope you all enjoy it as much as I enjoyed conducting it.

Much love to Hans and to Proud Galleries for hosting us.

New info on Emancipation? ✅

New info on Crystal Ball? ✅

New info on Roadhouse Garden? ✅

New info on The Truth? ✅

New info on The Muppet Show? ✅

New info on Rave Un2 The Joy Fantastic? ✅

New info on the 7 CD NEWFUNK Sample Set? ✅

New info on unreleased songs? ✅

AND MORE! ✅✅✅



Reply #1 posted 07/25/18 3:50am

darkroman

Truly amazing interview!

Maybe a little more digging deep would have been great but Buff would only open up so much.

Perhaps he could have prepared some answers before the recording particularly regards facts about songs we all want to know.

That being said, this is wonderful and an amazing insight into Prince's world!

THANK YOU!

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lol lol
lol

Reply #2 posted 07/25/18 9:10pm

SchlomoThaHomo

Great interview. This should really be in the main forum. Nobody will see it here.
"That's when stars collide. When there's space for what u want, and ur heart is open wide."
Reply #3 posted 07/26/18 6:31am

pinkcashmere23

Great interview! Really enjoyed it. Thanks!

Reply #4 posted 07/26/18 5:37pm

Militant

moderator

SchlomoThaHomo said:

Great interview. This should really be in the main forum. Nobody will see it here.

It was..... luv4u moved it.

I'm going to overrule her (I still luv u, Bev) and move it back, cuz I agree. There's SO MUCH new Prince info in here.



Reply #5 posted 07/26/18 6:16pm

amokeru

An amazing interview!

There is an interview that Prince gave on a Japanese music magazin called Cross Beat back in 1999 for Rave promotion and he said he just recorded a new song called Future Soul Song.
Listened to My Computer again but still I can't hear Kate Bush vocals...

Reply #6 posted 07/26/18 8:04pm

Strive

Future Soul Song was from 99 eek
no yesterday or tomorrow, no better remedy for sorrow
Reply #7 posted 07/26/18 10:34pm

databank

Militant said:

A little bit of a plug, but being a moderator has to come with perks, right? lol


Seriously though..... there is SO MUCH new, unknown information about Prince and his work in this interview.

I hope you all enjoy it as much as I enjoyed conducting it.

Much love to Hans and to Proud Galleries for hosting us.

New info on Emancipation? ✅

New info on Crystal Ball? ✅

New info on Roadhouse Garden? ✅

New info on The Truth? ✅

New info on The Muppet Show? ✅

New info on Rave Un2 The Joy Fantastic? ✅

New info on the 7 CD NEWFUNK Sample Set? ✅

New info on unreleased songs? ✅

AND MORE! ✅✅✅



Thanks, there's so much we don't know about post-95 recording sessions, it's really cool if you dig in this direction. I'll listen to it with much interest hug

A COMPREHENSIVE PRINCE DISCOGRAPHY (work in progress ^^): https://sites.google.com/...iscog/home
Reply #8 posted 07/26/18 10:36pm

databank

amokeru said:

An amazing interview!

There is an interview that Prince gave on a Japanese music magazin called Cross Beat back in 1999 for Rave promotion and he said he just recorded a new song called Future Soul Song.
Listened to My Computer again but still I can't hear Kate Bush vocals...

Seriously? They're all over the choruses eek eek eek

A COMPREHENSIVE PRINCE DISCOGRAPHY (work in progress ^^): https://sites.google.com/...iscog/home
Reply #9 posted 07/26/18 11:59pm

TheFreakerFantastic

Seems an interesting, nice guy.

However Militant you are showing a few gaps of knowledge, for example talking about latin music from the orginal 1982 '1999' being done by Sheila E. when she didn't even do any sessions with Prince until the Purple Rain era!

Also, it was slightly embarrasing when you said you couldn't hear Kate Bush's vocals in My Computer. I think you can hear them quite easily when you listen carefully. As HM Buff politely pointed out, they were meant to be backing vocals and not a duet anyway, but saying this to the engineer seems a bit tactless as if he didn't know his job.

Otherwise nice, the girl is nice too. [Unecessary personal attack - snipped - June7]

Reply #10 posted 07/27/18 1:42am

yello1

I didn´t understand the part that H.M . Buff comments (24:00) that there´s a cover of another 80s pop-star that Prince recorded for Crystal Ball?? It´s possible or I didn´t understand it? No more info?

Is there any way we can get that interview in Cross beat amokeru?

[Edited 7/27/18 0:06am]

Reply #11 posted 07/27/18 2:48am

ForbiddenFruit

Great interview - thank you!!

Reply #12 posted 07/27/18 2:51am

kindofblue

Militant, Thanks a million for this video and your great interview! The community got a lot of new information thanks to your work!

Btw, contrary to what TheFreakerFantastic says, for me you come across as a really nice guy, neither arrogant nor insecure, but genuinely interested in all things your interviewee has to say, and quite humble, actually.

Additionally, You are not the only one that cannot make out Kate Bushes vocals in this song. This has been discussed a lot before, and i'm with you regarding this topic. I wouldn't notice a guest singer at all in this song, if I wouldn't know there was one. And it sure wasn't Buffs job to decide about how loud to mix these vocals, so that is not tactless at all.

Reply #13 posted 07/27/18 4:20am

dodger

yello1 said:

I didn´t understand the part that H.M . Buff comments (24:00) that there´s a cover of another 80s pop-star that Prince recorded for Crystal Ball?? It´s possible or I didn´t understand it? No more info?

Is there any way we can get that interview in Cross beat amokeru?

[Edited 7/27/18 0:06am]

Yes, I was curious about that comment.

.

He came across well Buff. I like the fact he shared some info but was conscious about sharing anything too personal

Reply #14 posted 07/27/18 4:32am

amokeru

It was all written in Japanese. I don't know how to upload pics but i'm trying now...
An interviewer asked him that 1999 was written 17 years ago and now it is 1999 but what can you see 17 years later from now. He basically said that he just wrote Future Soul Song and sometimes he can hear angel's voice while sleeping and that was the inspiration for Future Soul Song. He also said that I wanna write beautiful music that we will be able to sing together.


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[Edited 7/27/18 4:42am]

[Edited 7/27/18 20:24pm]

Reply #15 posted 07/27/18 4:59am

feeluupp

Strive said:

Future Soul Song was from 99 eek

I want to know what year Sticky Like Glue was recorded... It really sounds like an 80's outtake.

Reply #16 posted 07/27/18 6:04am

PURPLEIZED3121

Militant said:

SchlomoThaHomo said:

Great interview. This should really be in the main forum. Nobody will see it here.

It was..... luv4u moved it.

I'm going to overrule her (I still luv u, Bev) and move it back, cuz I agree. There's SO MUCH new Prince info in here.



[Unecessary personal attack - snipped - June7]! Surely as a fellow mod she should consult with you 1st?

Anyway glad it's front page where it deserves to be.

Reply #17 posted 07/27/18 6:55am

Militant

moderator

TheFreakerFantastic said:

Seems an interesting, nice guy.


However Militant you are showing a few gaps of knowledge, for example talking about latin music from the orginal 1982 '1999' being done by Sheila E. when she didn't even do any sessions with Prince until the Purple Rain era!


Also, it was slightly embarrasing when you said you couldn't hear Kate Bush's vocals in My Computer. I think you can hear them quite easily when you listen carefully. As HM Buff politely pointed out, they were meant to be backing vocals and not a duet anyway, but saying this to the engineer seems a bit tactless as if he didn't know his job. 


 


Otherwise nice, the girl is nice too. [Unecessary personal attack - snipped - June7]


 


 


 


 

[Edited 7/27/18 0:06am]




Prince and Sheila met in January 1980, so it's not totally inconceivable, actually. If there's unreleased Latin percussion in a song, it's a fairly obvious thought to muse on - you'll note that I didn't state it as a fact.

Also,maybe you don't remember but people have been having conversations about not or barely being able to hear Kate on "My Computer" literally since Emancipation came out. Use the search function, and you'll see numerous discussions.

Finally, I don't know who you are, I don't remember you ever making any personality comments about me before, and you appear to be literally the only person that feels that way, so I would kindly suggest that you appear to be the one with the problem. Feel free to go and make a thread about how much you dislike me, but don't show up in threads about interviews I've done that take a CONSIDERABLE amount of time, money and effort to create, which I do for free, nitpick on tiny, opinion based things like I don't know what I'm talking about, and then have the nerve to make personal comments about me. That's petty as fuck and worthless.
Reply #18 posted 07/27/18 6:56am

SchlomoThaHomo

yello1 said:

I didn´t understand the part that H.M . Buff comments (24:00) that there´s a cover of another 80s pop-star that Prince recorded for Crystal Ball?? It´s possible or I didn´t understand it? No more info?

He had said Prince was asked to do a new backing for a song by another 80s pop superstar. My guess is it's Bad by Michael Jackson. I suppose it could be Like A Prayer by Madonna as well, but I think it's Bad, based on stories, and rumors I've heard.

"That's when stars collide. When there's space for what u want, and ur heart is open wide."
Reply #19 posted 07/27/18 8:05am

paulludvig

I am a bitt worried that Buff can't remember any really good unreleased songs from this period (apart from The Divine).
The wooh is on the one!
Reply #20 posted 07/27/18 9:22am

yello1

Thank U amokeru !! ...and

SchlomoThatHomo!

Reply #21 posted 07/27/18 9:30am

OperatingThetan

paulludvig said:

I am a bitt worried that Buff can't remember any really good unreleased songs from this period (apart from The Divine).


It all depends on taste really. He did mention other rock songs that were intended for 'Rave' and some unreleased music from 'The Truth' sessions.

I don't think the Madrid 2 Chicago album was mentioned by Buff and we know that exists and I'd certainly be interested in hearing it in its entirety given the two taster tracks we were provided via the NPGMC.

Songs such as 'What Should B Souled', 'R U Ready' and Prince's cover of 'Fight the Power' are also mentioned for the Rave period. Perhaps Buff either doesn't rate them or simply forgot about them.

I also have a keen desire to hear the full version of 'Funk Radio', but I may be in the minority there wink
Reply #22 posted 07/27/18 9:33am

OperatingThetan

Great interview and a pleasure to watch.

I particularly appreciate the focus on Prince's post 80s work and the quality of the questions coming as they do from fellow hardcore fans like ourselves.

Many thanks to Casey Rain/Militant.
Reply #23 posted 07/27/18 9:51am

yello1

OperatingThetan said:

I also have a keen desire to hear the full version of 'Funk Radio', but I may be in the minority there wink

I've looked for the snippet of this song for a long time but I haven't heard it yet!!! neutral

Reply #24 posted 07/27/18 10:01am

paulludvig

OperatingThetan said:

Great interview and a pleasure to watch.

I particularly appreciate the focus on Prince's post 80s work and the quality of the questions coming as they do from fellow hardcore fans like ourselves.

Many thanks to Casey Rain/Militant.


Agreed!
The wooh is on the one!
Reply #25 posted 07/27/18 10:42am

TheFreakerFantastic

Militant said:

TheFreakerFantastic said:

Seems an interesting, nice guy.

However Militant you are showing a few gaps of knowledge, for example talking about latin music from the orginal 1982 '1999' being done by Sheila E. when she didn't even do any sessions with Prince until the Purple Rain era!

Also, it was slightly embarrasing when you said you couldn't hear Kate Bush's vocals in My Computer. I think you can hear them quite easily when you listen carefully. As HM Buff politely pointed out, they were meant to be backing vocals and not a duet anyway, but saying this to the engineer seems a bit tactless as if he didn't know his job.

Otherwise nice, the girl is nice too. [Unecessary personal attack - snipped - June7]

Prince and Sheila met in January 1980, so it's not totally inconceivable, actually. If there's unreleased Latin percussion in a song, it's a fairly obvious thought to muse on - you'll note that I didn't state it as a fact. Also,maybe you don't remember but people have been having conversations about not or barely being able to hear Kate on "My Computer" literally since Emancipation came out. Use the search function, and you'll see numerous discussions. Finally, I don't know who you are, I don't remember you ever making any personality comments about me before, and you appear to be literally the only person that feels that way, so I would kindly suggest that you appear to be the one with the problem. Feel free to go and make a thread about how much you dislike me, but don't show up in threads about interviews I've done that take a CONSIDERABLE amount of time, money and effort to create, which I do for free, nitpick on tiny, opinion based things like I don't know what I'm talking about, and then have the nerve to make personal comments about me. That's petty as fuck and worthless.

[Unecessary personal attack - snipped - June7]

Reply #26 posted 07/27/18 10:53am

databank

I'm really quite surprised about this Kate Bush thing apparently having been a topic for so many. Her vocals are really obvious if you ask me, a little buried in the mix for sure, but you'll find them immediately as long as you look for them. Or maybe that's because I'm a hardcore Kate Bush fan, so the texture of her voice is very familiar to me, but there wasn't ever any doubt for me as to whether they were there or where they were.

A COMPREHENSIVE PRINCE DISCOGRAPHY (work in progress ^^): https://sites.google.com/...iscog/home
Reply #27 posted 07/27/18 11:06am

SkipperLove

You guys made a great point about how Prince didn't do many of his 90's gems live. I agree. But I do remember that he did do Shhh quite a bit (which is of course was from The Gold Experience but was originally recorded for Tevin years earlier). And I think he did Gold in 2011. One song you may have forgotten from Rave that he tended to do live was "I love u but I dont trust u anymore". But trying to come up with songs on the hot seat so to speak can be hard sometimes. So I understand. Good interview.

Reply #28 posted 07/27/18 11:36am

amokeru

I have a book called "Prince" by Matt Thorne and in this book,
Buff mentioned that "Madrid 2 Chicago" and "Breathe" were one suite at some point.
He also remembered working on 2 unreleased tracks
"I Ain't Gonna Run" and "This Is Your Life" for Rave.

Thank you for your contribution, Casey & Kim!! I really enjoy your podcast!
I was happy that I could tell you guys my appriciation at this year's Celebration 2018.
And you gave me a sticker!! You probably don't remember me though...
Or you maybe remember cuz there were not many Asian/Japanese in there...

Reply #29 posted 07/27/18 3:10pm

Militant

moderator

Thank you all for the kind words, and WOW at that interview about Future Soul Song. That just proves how much largely unknown info is out there that Prince may have mentioned once or twice and it wasn't noticed. And of course that goes both ways, like when I mentioned to Hans about Prince mentioning "The Divine" in recent years.


I agree that there's many gaps when it comes to Prince's 90s (and later work) - I think it's important that we try and close these knowledge gaps by talking to the people that were there. My personal bugbear is that often when people who worked with Prince get interviewed, the questions are quite superficial - usually because the hosts aren't fans, if the interviews are being conducted for radio or television to promote something.

And we shouldn't have to wait for somebody to write a book to get new information - the pace is too slow. So that's where Uncovering Prince comes in!

Please subscribe to the YouTube channel if you enjoyed it - I'll try to post all new episodes here but it won't always be possible. For anyone unaware, we already interviewed Anthony Malzone, Anna Fantastic, Elisa Fiorillo, Judith Hill, Marylou Badeaux, and more!
Reply #30 posted 07/27/18 3:24pm

PURPLEIZED3121

TheFreakerFantastic said:

Seems an interesting, nice guy.

However Militant you are showing a few gaps of knowledge, for example talking about latin music from the orginal 1982 '1999' being done by Sheila E. when she didn't even do any sessions with Prince until the Purple Rain era!

Also, it was slightly embarrasing when you said you couldn't hear Kate Bush's vocals in My Computer. I think you can hear them quite easily when you listen carefully. As HM Buff politely pointed out, they were meant to be backing vocals and not a duet anyway, but saying this to the engineer seems a bit tactless as if he didn't know his job.

Otherwise nice, the girl is nice too. [Unecessary personal attack - snipped - June7]

like...seriously? This actually makes BVH look sane! The Kate Bush mix is a disgrace & the vast majority agree on this. As for the Sheila E comments...shut up already!...I am serious hadcore iei from back when LRC was released, i've seen him live 40+ times..I own everything....etc...& even I didn't know the sheila E stuff!

Have you seen the effort Militant [& Kim] has gone to in putting all these interviews together...for free at HIS expense?! JEEEEEEESUS!

Reply #31 posted 07/27/18 4:16pm

42Kristen

Okay neutral

Reply #32 posted 07/27/18 8:18pm

amokeru

From biography "PRINCE" by Matt Thorne (I have updated edition published in 2012)


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Reply #33 posted 07/27/18 9:59pm

Hamad

Great interview! Would love to hear the shelved intro of the song "Comeback". Its unfortunate that Prince was apprehensive about releasing songs that showcased his vulnerable side (Empty Room & Wally) but then again being protective of his privacy is human after all. Still, I'm glad that those moments were captured on record even if they're in the vault still. Brilliant job & much appreciated, guys nod

Every saint has a past, and every sinner has a future...
Reply #34 posted 07/27/18 11:12pm

Strive

Finally sat down and listened to this. Some things that stood out to me that are very interesting for discussion (and should hopefully entice you to listen to the interview if you haven't already)



- Out of the whole "I am going to re-record my entire back catalog" thing Prince was talking about, the only thing that was recorded besides 1999: The New Master was a drum & bass version of Let's Pretend We're Married.

- "You have to realize he made music every day. And he would make that music whether he had something to say or not. It's just what he did. And you could tell when he had something to say."

- There was a beginning part to Comeback that was never released which gives him goosebumps just thinking about. And it wasn't erased. It still exists in the vault. Timecode around the 18 minute mark if you want to hear what it was lol

- The Truth and Don't Play Me were recorded in a single take. Afterwards, he added a couple of overdubs.

- Did a couple of versions of Welcome 2 The Dawn.

- There were some funky acoustic sessions during the recording of The Truth. Fascination was the only one that made the album.

- 2 songs from Musicology were first concieved during The Truth sessions. Specifically mentions A Million Days. Later in the interview, he reveals that the other song was If Eye Was The Man In Ur Life.

- For the Crystal Ball project, Prince gave him a list of songs and had him fish them out of the Vault. He shortened a number of songs. Specifically mentions Crystal Ball, Days Of Wild, Cloreen Bacon Skin. 2 weeks to put it all together. Mastering took a long time.

- He won't mention the name of an amazing song that was considered for Crystal Ball but "it was actually a well known song by another 80s pop star that he actually did a new backing for that he was asked to do but it was never released". Prince talked about how the star's people were just partying to it.

- Wonderful Ass was originally slated for Crystal Ball.

- Manuela and HM Buff convinced Prince to include Strange But True onto Rave Un2 but Prince insisted on overdubbing "those weird scratchy things and the beep bee beep things". Apparently the original version was just linn drum and some keyboards.

- Some things that ended up on Slaughterhouse and Chocolate Invasion came from the Rave sessions. Specifically mentions Y Should Eye Do That When Eye Can Do This?

- George Clinton sent the Paradigm tape back when HM Buff was still working there. Prince thought it was awesome. Prince worked on it for like four hours.

- Prince once had a staff meeting without inviting HM Buff and it turned out that the meeting was about reopening the studio. He had the tendancy to just ignore advice that he didn't agree with and avoid people that had an opinion otherwise.

- She Gave Her Angels on Crystal Ball is a very truncated version.

- Prince asked HM what he thought should be taken off of Rave and HM answered The Sun, The Stars And The Moon. To which Prince replied "Hans! How's your sex life?" which meant he included it for the ladies.

- "Why he chose to put out what he chose to put out is much more of a mystery to me." Ditto for the estate choosing to release "the solo piano thing" out of all the things they could release.

- Larry Graham was like a ray of sunshine in Paisley. Treated HM the same way he'd treat Prince.

- The unreleased song that HM said was his favorite unreleased track, which happened to be recorded on his first day with Prince, was "kind of like We March only a bit more Gospel". And the title of that track was The Divine.

- The Love We Make and The Divine were recorded on the same day.

- Most of the music seemed to grow out of musicial moments in the studio and HM wonders how many of the song explanations were attached by Prince afterwards as a cool little aside.

- He looked at the police photos they released and the vault looked exactly the way it did when he left 20 years ago. He agrees with the estate's decision to move the contents to Iron Mountain.

- "There's two albums for every one that was released on there so start saving up people."

no yesterday or tomorrow, no better remedy for sorrow
Reply #35 posted 07/28/18 10:51am

BanishedBrian

Great interview... thanks for doing it, and keep them coming!

FWIW re My Computer, I've always heard her in the chorus, but I agree that it's very subtle. As Buff said, it's not intended to be duet, though I wish Prince and her had done one.

No Candy 4 Me
Reply #36 posted 07/28/18 2:49pm

madhouseman

Just downloaded it. I can't wait to listen to this tonight. Hans-Martin is freaking great and I'm sure that you and Kim brought the thunder!

It is podcasts like this, and other interviews and books by those who were there that seriously help extend Prince's legacy. So many people are grateful for this type of information, so thank you!

Congrats to all of you on another great one!

My book PRINCE and The Purple Rain Era Studio Sessions 1983-1984 was released in November 2017. (https://www.amazon.com/Prince-Purple-Rain-Studio-Sessions/dp/1538105497/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_product_top?ie=UTF8) or go to https://www.facebook.com/...s/10915961
Reply #37 posted 07/28/18 3:00pm

fabriziovenerandi

When he talks about Roadhouse Garden? I missed it.

Reply #38 posted 07/28/18 3:23pm

pinkcashmere23

amokeru said:

It was all written in Japanese. I don't know how to upload pics but i'm trying now...
An interviewer asked him that 1999 was written 17 years ago and now it is 1999 but what can you see 17 years later from now. He basically said that he just wrote Future Soul Song and sometimes he can hear angel's voice while sleeping and that was the inspiration for Future Soul Song. He also said that I wanna write beautiful music that we will be able to sing together.


IMG_0994_zpsvrsnmzra.jpg

[Edited 7/27/18 4:41am]

[Edited 7/27/18 4:42am]

[Edited 7/27/18 20:24pm]

Nice to know! Thanks for sharing that. According to the person cataloging the contents of the vault,there was a song titled "Future Soul" recorded November 20th 2009 along with "Sticky." which I assume is short for "Sticky Like Glue."

[Edited 7/28/18 15:26pm]

Reply #39 posted 07/28/18 10:36pm

williamb610

Strive said:

Finally sat down and listened to this. Some things that stood out to me that are very interesting for discussion (and should hopefully entice you to listen to the interview if you haven't already)



- Out of the whole "I am going to re-record my entire back catalog" thing Prince was talking about, the only thing that was recorded besides 1999: The New Master was a drum & bass version of Let's Pretend We're Married.

- "You have to realize he made music every day. And he would make that music whether he had something to say or not. It's just what he did. And you could tell when he had something to say."

- There was a beginning part to Comeback that was never released which gives him goosebumps just thinking about. And it wasn't erased. It still exists in the vault. Timecode around the 18 minute mark if you want to hear what it was lol

- The Truth and Don't Play Me were recorded in a single take. Afterwards, he added a couple of overdubs.

- Did a couple of versions of Welcome 2 The Dawn.

- There were some funky acoustic sessions during the recording of The Truth. Fascination was the only one that made the album.

- 2 songs from Musicology were first concieved during The Truth sessions. Specifically mentions A Million Days. Later in the interview, he reveals that the other song was If Eye Was The Man In Ur Life.

- For the Crystal Ball project, Prince gave him a list of songs and had him fish them out of the Vault. He shortened a number of songs. Specifically mentions Crystal Ball, Days Of Wild, Cloreen Bacon Skin. 2 weeks to put it all together. Mastering took a long time.

- He won't mention the name of an amazing song that was considered for Crystal Ball but "it was actually a well known song by another 80s pop star that he actually did a new backing for that he was asked to do but it was never released". Prince talked about how the star's people were just partying to it.

- Wonderful Ass was originally slated for Crystal Ball.

- Manuela and HM Buff convinced Prince to include Strange But True onto Rave Un2 but Prince insisted on overdubbing "those weird scratchy things and the beep bee beep things". Apparently the original version was just linn drum and some keyboards.

- Some things that ended up on Slaughterhouse and Chocolate Invasion came from the Rave sessions. Specifically mentions Y Should Eye Do That When Eye Can Do This?

- George Clinton sent the Paradigm tape back when HM Buff was still working there. Prince thought it was awesome. Prince worked on it for like four hours.

- Prince once had a staff meeting without inviting HM Buff and it turned out that the meeting was about reopening the studio. He had the tendancy to just ignore advice that he didn't agree with and avoid people that had an opinion otherwise.

- She Gave Her Angels on Crystal Ball is a very truncated version.

- Prince asked HM what he thought should be taken off of Rave and HM answered The Sun, The Stars And The Moon. To which Prince replied "Hans! How's your sex life?" which meant he included it for the ladies.

- "Why he chose to put out what he chose to put out is much more of a mystery to me." Ditto for the estate choosing to release "the solo piano thing" out of all the things they could release.

- Larry Graham was like a ray of sunshine in Paisley. Treated HM the same way he'd treat Prince.

- The unreleased song that HM said was his favorite unreleased track, which happened to be recorded on his first day with Prince, was "kind of like We March only a bit more Gospel". And the title of that track was The Divine.

- The Love We Make and The Divine were recorded on the same day.

- Most of the music seemed to grow out of musicial moments in the studio and HM wonders how many of the song explanations were attached by Prince afterwards as a cool little aside.

- He looked at the police photos they released and the vault looked exactly the way it did when he left 20 years ago. He agrees with the estate's decision to move the contents to Iron Mountain.

- "There's two albums for every one that was released on there so start saving up people."

Thanks, Strive! 2 albums for every one released? Sounds cool to me! Can't wait to hear it!!!

Reply #40 posted 07/28/18 11:18pm

mynameisnotsusan

Thanks for this - very interesting
Reply #41 posted 07/29/18 2:05am

Portia

Amazing interview! Thanks!
peace heart and fro
"Some days I feel tangerine, sometimes I feel blue..."
Reply #42 posted 07/29/18 3:12am

madhouseman

Just listened to the interview (on a drive to a great Prince party here in LA put on by the Prince Army Los Angeles/Bumpsquad) and it was great. I love insights like this, so thank you to everyone involved. Another great job!

My book PRINCE and The Purple Rain Era Studio Sessions 1983-1984 was released in November 2017. (https://www.amazon.com/Prince-Purple-Rain-Studio-Sessions/dp/1538105497/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_product_top?ie=UTF8) or go to https://www.facebook.com/...s/10915961
Reply #43 posted 07/29/18 5:38am

Kares

Militant said:

TheFreakerFantastic said:

Seems an interesting, nice guy.

However Militant you are showing a few gaps of knowledge, for example talking about latin music from the orginal 1982 '1999' being done by Sheila E. when she didn't even do any sessions with Prince until the Purple Rain era!

Prince and Sheila met in January 1980, so it's not totally inconceivable, actually. If there's unreleased Latin percussion in a song, it's a fairly obvious thought to muse on - you'll note that I didn't state it as a fact.

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I think it has been common knowledge for many years that the first time Prince and Sheila worked together was on Erotic City, and that was almost 2 years after 1999 was recorded.

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Friends don't let friends clap on 1 and 3.

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Reply #44 posted 07/29/18 7:02am

Fenwick

Great interview. Congrats to both of you at the Violet Realty, Militant.


Great job keeping us informed with new and insightful information.


Don't bother feeding the trolls. They're beneath you, (and us) and not worth a response. In truth, I think we all would be better served if you just deleted their posts. They're antagonistic and not productive in the least.

Reply #45 posted 07/29/18 8:47am

databank

Militant said:

Thank you all for the kind words, and WOW at that interview about Future Soul Song. That just proves how much largely unknown info is out there that Prince may have mentioned once or twice and it wasn't noticed. And of course that goes both ways, like when I mentioned to Hans about Prince mentioning "The Divine" in recent years. I agree that there's many gaps when it comes to Prince's 90s (and later work) - I think it's important that we try and close these knowledge gaps by talking to the people that were there. My personal bugbear is that often when people who worked with Prince get interviewed, the questions are quite superficial - usually because the hosts aren't fans, if the interviews are being conducted for radio or television to promote something. And we shouldn't have to wait for somebody to write a book to get new information - the pace is too slow. So that's where Uncovering Prince comes in! Please subscribe to the YouTube channel if you enjoyed it - I'll try to post all new episodes here but it won't always be possible. For anyone unaware, we already interviewed Anthony Malzone, Anna Fantastic, Elisa Fiorillo, Judith Hill, Marylou Badeaux, and more!

I can only thank you for that. What you and others (The Prince Podcast, Peach & Black, Funkenberry...) do is really cool. As you say, until we get 40 years of career covered in books such as Duane's, you guys manage to uncover precious infos in the meantime, and should be supported. Don't pay attention to those bitching and doing nothing. Your work is appreciated hug

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Reply #46 posted 07/29/18 10:38am

2freaky4church1

Thanks Militant. Kiss.

"My motherfucker's so cool sheep count him."
Reply #47 posted 07/29/18 1:45pm

pricetag

Great interview. Nice to hear some really informed questions. Keep up the good work.

Reply #48 posted 07/30/18 7:18am

alb69

very interesting, Thanx

Reply #49 posted 07/30/18 7:27am

SPYZFAN1

I listened to it yesterday..great interview. The ones with Marylou and Griff were great too....Hoping they'll get Dez, Andre or Bobby down the road.

Reply #50 posted 07/30/18 1:19pm

80spfantwp

Thans Militant. Watched it last night and really enjoyed the anecdotes. cool I hope to hear other interviews from others involved with the studio process: for me this really helps with the grieving process, raised a smile cool

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Reply #51 posted 07/30/18 5:57pm

IstenSzek

these are the things i want to know cool thanks militant and kim smile and thanks hans. bow


and true love lives on lollipops and crisps
Reply #52 posted 07/30/18 5:58pm

IstenSzek

ooh. i'd really like to see the rest of this page since it goes into unreleased projects there eek


amokeru said:

From biography "PRINCE" by Matt Thorne (I have updated edition published in 2012)


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Reply #53 posted 07/30/18 6:09pm

Doozer

I’m glad Militant has the wherewithal to know that some people are just idiots, and there’s no helping them.

Awesome interview. Thanks for adding so much to what we know about Prince’s work, and helping us realize how much we have yet to discover.
Check out The Mountains and the Sea, a Prince podcast by yours truly and my wife. More info at https://www.facebook.com/TMATSPodcast/
Reply #54 posted 07/31/18 1:47am

dodger

Doozer said:

I’m glad Militant has the wherewithal to know that some people are just idiots, and there’s no helping them. Awesome interview. Thanks for adding so much to what we know about Prince’s work, and helping us realize how much we have yet to discover.

Agree. Great for long time fans to get some new bits of info

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Off topic; Doozer, I've enjoyed listening to a few of your podcasts. Good work thumbs up!

Reply #55 posted 07/31/18 4:55am

amokeru

IstenSzek said:

ooh. i'd really like to see the rest of this page since it goes into unreleased projects there eek


amokeru said:

From biography "PRINCE" by Matt Thorne (I have updated edition published in 2012)


IMG_0996_zpsb2yskv17.jpg




Here what Steve Parke says..

Reply #56 posted 07/31/18 5:34am

IstenSzek

thank you, amokeru. i appreciate it! thumbs up! cool


and true love lives on lollipops and crisps
Reply #57 posted 07/31/18 5:39am

Doozer

dodger said:

 



Doozer said:


I’m glad Militant has the wherewithal to know that some people are just idiots, and there’s no helping them. Awesome interview. Thanks for adding so much to what we know about Prince’s work, and helping us realize how much we have yet to discover.

Agree. Great for long time fans to get some new bits of info


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Off topic; Doozer, I've enjoyed listening to a few of your podcasts. Good work thumbs up!



Also off-topic: Thank you!

There are so many great Prince-related podcasts out there by people with real connections like Militant. I’d encourage anyone who is critical of a podcast to try making one, or even just planning / preparing for one, or try being a guest on one to see what goes into it. I think it would be a real eye opener.
Check out The Mountains and the Sea, a Prince podcast by yours truly and my wife. More info at https://www.facebook.com/TMATSPodcast/
Reply #58 posted 07/31/18 8:16am

littlemissG

I look forward to every episode of your podcast.
Please keep doing what you do Militant.
No More Haters on the Internet.
Reply #59 posted 07/31/18 8:42am

DarkKnight1

Amazing. Thanks.

(Insert something clever here)
Reply #60 posted 07/31/18 9:13am

pricetag

Doozer said:

dodger said:

Agree. Great for long time fans to get some new bits of info

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Off topic; Doozer, I've enjoyed listening to a few of your podcasts. Good work thumbs up!

Also off-topic: Thank you! There are so many great Prince-related podcasts out there by people with real connections like Militant. I’d encourage anyone who is critical of a podcast to try making one, or even just planning / preparing for one, or try being a guest on one to see what goes into it. I think it would be a real eye opener.

Behave. You're creating drama where it doesn't exist. Shining a spotlight on the one negative (and not of the podcast itself) in this thread versus the dozens of positives, really isn't helping.

[Edited 7/31/18 9:18am]

Reply #61 posted 07/31/18 9:26am

KoolEaze

Great interview, thanks ! I really like your choice of interview partners, too, and the way you handle those interviews.

" I´d rather be a stank ass hoe because I´m not stupid. Oh my goodness! I got more drugs! I´m always funny dude...I´m hilarious! Are we gonna smoke?"




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Reply #62 posted 07/31/18 10:40am

Doozer

pricetag said:

Doozer said:

dodger said: Also off-topic: Thank you! There are so many great Prince-related podcasts out there by people with real connections like Militant. I’d encourage anyone who is critical of a podcast to try making one, or even just planning / preparing for one, or try being a guest on one to see what goes into it. I think it would be a real eye opener.

Behave. You're creating drama where it doesn't exist. Shining a spotlight on the one negative (and not of the podcast itself) in this thread versus the dozens of positives, really isn't helping.

[Edited 7/31/18 9:18am]


I'm supporting Militant, who also responded to criticism (what you refer to as "drama") earlier in the thread.

The interview was fantastic, and the type of insightful questions posed to Hans-Martin Buff were extremely thoughtful and well researched. When an interviewee asks the interviewer, "How did you know that?", you know the interviewers dug deep. (Buff asked that question regarding a painting he made of the Parade album cover that is discussed in the interview.)

Check out The Mountains and the Sea, a Prince podcast by yours truly and my wife. More info at https://www.facebook.com/TMATSPodcast/
Reply #63 posted 07/31/18 12:22pm

pricetag

Doozer said:

pricetag said:

Behave. You're creating drama where it doesn't exist. Shining a spotlight on the one negative (and not of the podcast itself) in this thread versus the dozens of positives, really isn't helping.

[Edited 7/31/18 9:18am]


I'm supporting Militant, who also responded to criticism (what you refer to as "drama") earlier in the thread.

The interview was fantastic, and the type of insightful questions posed to Hans-Martin Buff were extremely thoughtful and well researched. When an interviewee asks the interviewer, "How did you know that?", you know the interviewers dug deep. (Buff asked that question regarding a painting he made of the Parade album cover that is discussed in the interview.)

Agreed but none of this really answers my point. Your dig at an imaginary group of protestors felt highly redundant. Why is this not obvious to you?

Reply #64 posted 07/31/18 1:19pm

Doozer

pricetag said:

Doozer said:


I'm supporting Militant, who also responded to criticism (what you refer to as "drama") earlier in the thread.

The interview was fantastic, and the type of insightful questions posed to Hans-Martin Buff were extremely thoughtful and well researched. When an interviewee asks the interviewer, "How did you know that?", you know the interviewers dug deep. (Buff asked that question regarding a painting he made of the Parade album cover that is discussed in the interview.)

Agreed but none of this really answers my point. Your dig at an imaginary group of protestors felt highly redundant. Why is this not obvious to you?


I'm not sure what your issue is with an opinion being expressed, but clearly it has irritated you to the point of questioning my ability to answer a point or to see the painfully obvious.

An early post in this thread questioned the OP's knowledge of Prince. This is not imaginary; this is reply #9, which required a mod to snip an unnecessarily ugly personal attack. The OP took the time to respond and take issue with that. I posted my support for the OP and thanked him for the thoughtful interview. The only thing not obvious to me is why this would bother someone like you.



[Edited 7/31/18 13:26pm]

Check out The Mountains and the Sea, a Prince podcast by yours truly and my wife. More info at https://www.facebook.com/TMATSPodcast/
Reply #65 posted 07/31/18 1:56pm

TheBoneRanger

Excellent! Great interview! I love the 96-00 period, so this was quite a treat for me and warrants some feedback.

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I agree with the Justin Bieber/Frank Zappa dichotomy, but I would've framed it as a Michael Jackson/Frank Zappa dichotomy, instead. Still, though, it's the same sentiment and one that I think is dead on target.

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Ditto on the "Release It" beat sample. That's the one I would most want, too.

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Emancipation singles I would have gone with:

Somebody's Somebody

Sex in the Summer

One Kiss at a Time

Dreamin' About You

New World

Style

My Computer

...and if there's going to be a cover then I would have gone with "One Of Us."

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I love "The Sun, the Moon and Stars." The clunker for me on that album by far is "Baby Knows."

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"The solo piano thing" is a logical step bringing it (the place he was at musically when he died) all the way back around to the beginning, and signals the beginning of the estate era releases with an intimate performance that is sure to be a bittersweet emotional roller coaster for most fans. It also buys more time to mull over the decisions regarding the forthcoming studio material such as song choices, sequencing, art packaging, mastering. I want all of that stuff bad, but I want them to take the time and put all the thought and effort into it they require to do it right.

[Edited 7/31/18 13:57pm]

Hi-yo Silver, it's The Bone Ranger!
Reply #66 posted 07/31/18 3:10pm

pricetag

Doozer said:

pricetag said:

Agreed but none of this really answers my point. Your dig at an imaginary group of protestors felt highly redundant. Why is this not obvious to you?


I'm not sure what your issue is with an opinion being expressed, but clearly it has irritated you to the point of questioning my ability to answer a point or to see the painfully obvious.

An early post in this thread questioned the OP's knowledge of Prince. This is not imaginary; this is reply #9, which required a mod to snip an unnecessarily ugly personal attack. The OP took the time to respond and take issue with that. I posted my support for the OP and thanked him for the thoughtful interview. The only thing not obvious to me is why this would bother someone like you.



[Edited 7/31/18 13:26pm]

I think what's irritating me is your stubborn refusal/ inabilty to connect with my point. Earlier you suggested that Militant's response to criticism was the "drama" I was referring to. No. This is wrong. The drama I was referring to was of your own making by attacking an imaginary group of protactors. They just don't exist. This is something you made up. THATS THE DRAMA. Yours.

Now, for some absurd reason, you think that I think the one criticism made here was imaginary. I don't. I'm just saying you've taking things well out of proportion.

It's irritating to have to constantly define what one is saying when it was painfully obvious the first time. READ properly.

Reply #67 posted 07/31/18 4:12pm

Doozer

pricetag said:

Doozer said:


I'm not sure what your issue is with an opinion being expressed, but clearly it has irritated you to the point of questioning my ability to answer a point or to see the painfully obvious.

An early post in this thread questioned the OP's knowledge of Prince. This is not imaginary; this is reply #9, which required a mod to snip an unnecessarily ugly personal attack. The OP took the time to respond and take issue with that. I posted my support for the OP and thanked him for the thoughtful interview. The only thing not obvious to me is why this would bother someone like you.



[Edited 7/31/18 13:26pm]

I think what's irritating me is your stubborn refusal/ inabilty to connect with my point. Earlier you suggested that Militant's response to criticism was the "drama" I was referring to. No. This is wrong. The drama I was referring to was of your own making by attacking an imaginary group of protactors. They just don't exist. This is something you made up. THATS THE DRAMA. Yours.

Now, for some absurd reason, you think that I think the one criticism made here was imaginary. I don't. I'm just saying you've taking things well out of proportion.

It's irritating to have to constantly define what one is saying when it was painfully obvious the first time. READ properly.



No, I did not refer to Militant's response as "drama." I wrote:


I'm supporting Militant, who also responded to criticism (what you refer to as "drama") earlier in the thread.


The criticism is what I was pointing at as "drama." That's why it was parenthetical after the word "criticisim," and not after "Militant." Misplaced modifiers bother me, and I try my best to avoid them.

I think you're completely wrong. You feel the same about me. I'm OK leaving it at that, and we can just agree that this interview was fanstastic, and we're both thankful for the post, and we both enjoy Prince's music. Is that enough common ground to shake hands?

[Edited 7/31/18 16:18pm]

Check out The Mountains and the Sea, a Prince podcast by yours truly and my wife. More info at https://www.facebook.com/TMATSPodcast/
Reply #68 posted 07/31/18 4:20pm

pricetag

Doozer said:

pricetag said:

I think what's irritating me is your stubborn refusal/ inabilty to connect with my point. Earlier you suggested that Militant's response to criticism was the "drama" I was referring to. No. This is wrong. The drama I was referring to was of your own making by attacking an imaginary group of protactors. They just don't exist. This is something you made up. THATS THE DRAMA. Yours.

Now, for some absurd reason, you think that I think the one criticism made here was imaginary. I don't. I'm just saying you've taking things well out of proportion.

It's irritating to have to constantly define what one is saying when it was painfully obvious the first time. READ properly.



I think you're completely wrong. You feel the same about me. I'm OK leaving it at that, and we can just agree that this interview was fanstastic. Is that mature enough for us both?

Yes. The interview was fantastic. Of course, this has nothing to do with our disagreement, which again suggests you have no idea what I'm talking about. Feel free to think I'm completely wrong. I know you'd never be able to articulate why, though.

Reply #69 posted 07/31/18 4:46pm

Doozer

pricetag said:

Doozer said:



I think you're completely wrong. You feel the same about me. I'm OK leaving it at that, and we can just agree that this interview was fanstastic. Is that mature enough for us both?

Yes. The interview was fantastic. Of course, this has nothing to do with our disagreement, which again suggests you have no idea what I'm talking about. Feel free to think I'm completely wrong. I know you'd never be able to articulate why, though.


I'm honestly glad we can agree, and I am leaving it at that despite what I consider a pretty remarkable insult as you've stated I'd never be able to articulate something. You've proclaimed you are smarter than me, and I can't express my thoughts, so there is no need to respond any further.

I'd be glad to discuss the interview more, or debate my own intelligence with you via orgnotes, which I'm more than certain the mods would prefer.

I'll even reach out now and ask what information in this interview was particularly interesting or surprising to you, in an effort to get back on topic?



For me. Buff speaking about dropping CDs off at Prince’s guard station with handwritten notes was really endearing. Hearing how he came to the realization that it was time to leave was interesting. And being able to agree that “Silly Game” was a surprising choice to include on “Rave” was satisfying, as it’s one of my least favorite album tracks. Buff describing how he got out of touring was also pretty funny - so he could sleep and see his family.

[Edited 8/3/18 15:24pm]

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Reply #70 posted 07/31/18 11:41pm

fabriziovenerandi

Someone can help me? When he talked about Roadhouse Garden?

Reply #71 posted 08/01/18 12:46pm

PeteSilas

ya, damn, why do people have to be so critical? anything bringing light to the life of the great one is welcome to me.

Militant said:

TheFreakerFantastic said:

Seems an interesting, nice guy.

However Militant you are showing a few gaps of knowledge, for example talking about latin music from the orginal 1982 '1999' being done by Sheila E. when she didn't even do any sessions with Prince until the Purple Rain era!

Also, it was slightly embarrasing when you said you couldn't hear Kate Bush's vocals in My Computer. I think you can hear them quite easily when you listen carefully. As HM Buff politely pointed out, they were meant to be backing vocals and not a duet anyway, but saying this to the engineer seems a bit tactless as if he didn't know his job.

Otherwise nice, the girl is nice too. [Unecessary personal attack - snipped - June7]

[Edited 7/27/18 0:06am]

Prince and Sheila met in January 1980, so it's not totally inconceivable, actually. If there's unreleased Latin percussion in a song, it's a fairly obvious thought to muse on - you'll note that I didn't state it as a fact. Also,maybe you don't remember but people have been having conversations about not or barely being able to hear Kate on "My Computer" literally since Emancipation came out. Use the search function, and you'll see numerous discussions. Finally, I don't know who you are, I don't remember you ever making any personality comments about me before, and you appear to be literally the only person that feels that way, so I would kindly suggest that you appear to be the one with the problem. Feel free to go and make a thread about how much you dislike me, but don't show up in threads about interviews I've done that take a CONSIDERABLE amount of time, money and effort to create, which I do for free, nitpick on tiny, opinion based things like I don't know what I'm talking about, and then have the nerve to make personal comments about me. That's petty as fuck and worthless.

Prince.org: With fans like these he didn't need haters.
Reply #72 posted 08/01/18 12:48pm

luvsexy4all

but takumi let me touch his symbol guitar from the stage.....

Reply #73 posted 08/02/18 9:48am

scififilmnerd

Militant said:

Thank you all for the kind words, and WOW at that interview about Future Soul Song. That just proves how much largely unknown info is out there that Prince may have mentioned once or twice and it wasn't noticed. !

I noticed H.M. Buff mentioning in the book Prince by Matt Thorne that Future Soul Song was originally recorded in 1996. This is old news. smile

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Reply #74 posted 08/02/18 9:56am

scififilmnerd

Anyway, I am slowly working my way through the interview and comparing information with my list of Chronological Prince Recordings. And I didn't know he did a remaster of Let's Pretend We're Married. Wow. I sure hope it was better than 1999 (The New Master). biggrin

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Reply #75 posted 08/02/18 10:18am

scififilmnerd

Strive said:

Finally sat down and listened to this. Some things that stood out to me that are very interesting for discussion (and should hopefully entice you to listen to the interview if you haven't already)



- Out of the whole "I am going to re-record my entire back catalog" thing Prince was talking about, the only thing that was recorded besides 1999: The New Master was a drum & bass version of Let's Pretend We're Married.

- "You have to realize he made music every day. And he would make that music whether he had something to say or not. It's just what he did. And you could tell when he had something to say."

- There was a beginning part to Comeback that was never released which gives him goosebumps just thinking about. And it wasn't erased. It still exists in the vault. Timecode around the 18 minute mark if you want to hear what it was lol

- The Truth and Don't Play Me were recorded in a single take. Afterwards, he added a couple of overdubs.

- Did a couple of versions of Welcome 2 The Dawn.

- There were some funky acoustic sessions during the recording of The Truth. Fascination was the only one that made the album.

- 2 songs from Musicology were first concieved during The Truth sessions. Specifically mentions A Million Days. Later in the interview, he reveals that the other song was If Eye Was The Man In Ur Life.

- For the Crystal Ball project, Prince gave him a list of songs and had him fish them out of the Vault. He shortened a number of songs. Specifically mentions Crystal Ball, Days Of Wild, Cloreen Bacon Skin. 2 weeks to put it all together. Mastering took a long time.

- He won't mention the name of an amazing song that was considered for Crystal Ball but "it was actually a well known song by another 80s pop star that he actually did a new backing for that he was asked to do but it was never released". Prince talked about how the star's people were just partying to it.

- Wonderful Ass was originally slated for Crystal Ball.

- Manuela and HM Buff convinced Prince to include Strange But True onto Rave Un2 but Prince insisted on overdubbing "those weird scratchy things and the beep bee beep things". Apparently the original version was just linn drum and some keyboards.

- Some things that ended up on Slaughterhouse and Chocolate Invasion came from the Rave sessions. Specifically mentions Y Should Eye Do That When Eye Can Do This?

- George Clinton sent the Paradigm tape back when HM Buff was still working there. Prince thought it was awesome. Prince worked on it for like four hours.

- Prince once had a staff meeting without inviting HM Buff and it turned out that the meeting was about reopening the studio. He had the tendancy to just ignore advice that he didn't agree with and avoid people that had an opinion otherwise.

- She Gave Her Angels on Crystal Ball is a very truncated version.

- Prince asked HM what he thought should be taken off of Rave and HM answered The Sun, The Stars And The Moon. To which Prince replied "Hans! How's your sex life?" which meant he included it for the ladies.

- "Why he chose to put out what he chose to put out is much more of a mystery to me." Ditto for the estate choosing to release "the solo piano thing" out of all the things they could release.

- Larry Graham was like a ray of sunshine in Paisley. Treated HM the same way he'd treat Prince.

- The unreleased song that HM said was his favorite unreleased track, which happened to be recorded on his first day with Prince, was "kind of like We March only a bit more Gospel". And the title of that track was The Divine.

- The Love We Make and The Divine were recorded on the same day.

- Most of the music seemed to grow out of musicial moments in the studio and HM wonders how many of the song explanations were attached by Prince afterwards as a cool little aside.

- He looked at the police photos they released and the vault looked exactly the way it did when he left 20 years ago. He agrees with the estate's decision to move the contents to Iron Mountain.

- "There's two albums for every one that was released on there so start saving up people."

Most of this is new to me. Thank you for taking notes, Strive. I usually do that too with interviews like this. I'm particularly intrigued about The Divine. I hope we get to hear it someday. smile

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Reply #76 posted 08/02/18 11:03am

IstenSzek

scififilmnerd said:

Militant said:

Thank you all for the kind words, and WOW at that interview about Future Soul Song. That just proves how much largely unknown info is out there that Prince may have mentioned once or twice and it wasn't noticed. !

I noticed H.M. Buff mentioning in the book Prince by Matt Thorne that Future Soul Song was originally recorded in 1996. This is old news. smile


i think prince himself said something to the effect that it was an older song, at the time the 20Ten
album was released. i seem to remember him saying that it had taken a long time to figure out the
arrangement for it, or something like that.


and true love lives on lollipops and crisps
Reply #77 posted 08/02/18 1:26pm

scififilmnerd

Just wrapped up watching the interview and taking notes - a very enjoyable process. Great interview. Very interesting. H. M. Buff seems nice and answers some very good questions as best he can. Thank you, Militant. biggrin

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Reply #78 posted 08/02/18 1:47pm

paulludvig

IstenSzek said:

 



scififilmnerd said:


 



Militant said:


Thank you all for the kind words, and WOW at that interview about Future Soul Song. That just proves how much largely unknown info is out there that Prince may have mentioned once or twice and it wasn't noticed. !

 


I noticed H.M. Buff mentioning in the book Prince by Matt Thorne that Future Soul Song was originally recorded in 1996. This is old news.  smile




i think prince himself said something to the effect that it was an older song, at the time the 20Ten
album was released. i seem to remember him saying that it had taken a long time to figure out the
arrangement for it, or something like that. 




At the same time it must have been partly re-recorded. The background vocals are by Shelby, Liv and Elisa.
The wooh is on the one!
Reply #79 posted 08/02/18 9:10pm

SchlomoThaHomo

IstenSzek said:

scififilmnerd said:

I noticed H.M. Buff mentioning in the book Prince by Matt Thorne that Future Soul Song was originally recorded in 1996. This is old news. smile


i think prince himself said something to the effect that it was an older song, at the time the 20Ten
album was released. i seem to remember him saying that it had taken a long time to figure out the
arrangement for it, or something like that.



Yea I remember that, too. Something about him taking the song as far as he could back in the 90s, and then taking it back out and finishing it.

"That's when stars collide. When there's space for what u want, and ur heart is open wide."
Reply #80 posted 08/03/18 6:20am

IstenSzek

SchlomoThaHomo said:

IstenSzek said:


i think prince himself said something to the effect that it was an older song, at the time the 20Ten
album was released. i seem to remember him saying that it had taken a long time to figure out the
arrangement for it, or something like that.



Yea I remember that, too. Something about him taking the song as far as he could back in the 90s, and then taking it back out and finishing it.


that's it. i couldn't remember it exactly, but that's it. nod


and true love lives on lollipops and crisps
Reply #81 posted 08/03/18 8:45am

OperatingThetan

These are the known unreleased songs from the period as sourced from Prince Vault. A few of the titles Buff mentioned are present here, though it obviously shouldn't be considered definitive. 'Funk Radio' isn't included, though I don't know if anyone knows much about the song other than the brief sample that appeared on NPGMC. The contents of the Madr

Madrid 2 Chicago album don't seem to be clear or definite judging from Buff's comments, though Prince did mention it as a potential album on the NPGMC, so must've had some kind of final tracklisting in mind.

Feel Good Emancipation 1995 Good Dick And A Job - 1995 Heart In My Hand Emancipation 1995 I'm A DJ Emancipation 1995 (If It Ain't) Gutbucket Emancipation 1995 Livin' 2 Die - 1995 Love (Never Has 2 Say Goodbye) - 1995 Nothing Left 2 Give see Stone 1995 Stone - 1995 With God As My Witness Emancipation 1995 Mind Blo - 1995-1996 The Divine Emancipation 1996 Moneyapolis Emancipation 1996 Muhammed Ali Emancipation 1996 This Is Your Life - 1998 The One (Intro) - 1998/2000 Don't Say No Rave Un2 The Joy Fantastic 1999 I Ain't Gonna Run Rave Un2 The Joy Fantastic 1999 R U Ready? Graham Central Station 1999 What Should B Souled - 1999 Bada Boom (a reworking of Poom Poom) Graham Central Station 2000 Do U Wanna Get Funky? Larry Graham: Man O' War NPG Records Sampler 2000 Thank U Just The Same see My Medallion 2000 Country Playa Milenia 2001 Electric Rush

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Reply #82 posted 08/03/18 9:30am

luvsexy4all

do the elitists have The Divine? they gots good dick and a job

Reply #83 posted 08/03/18 9:47am

Vannormal

One of the reasons why this interview is so good, is because of Hans Martin Buff being such a adorable great and funny guy.

He's very professional, on many levels.

Must be the German approach, or as they say, the 'deutsche Gründlichkeit'. wink

He doesn't necessarely pushes his own opinions, asked or unasked, which I think is a very rare and intelligent move (that I don't have). wink

And he knows when NOT to tell something. biggrin

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He also seems very capable of overlooking situations (and people), then think, rethink, and skip all the unneeded info and even leaving (all) the blaming (if so), and preserve the facts for what they are.

I love his no-drama attitude, and still being capable of approaching things in an unexpected funny response.

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Great interveiw - could've been more deeper, but hey, like he says himself: (there's always a) 'coulda woulda shoulda'. wink (So who am I...)

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He should write a book though !

I looooove his story telling.

Hans ???!

"...no matter what, all will be fine, always."
Reply #84 posted 08/03/18 10:30am

OperatingThetan

luvsexy4all said:

do the elitists have The Divine?   they gots good dick and a job



Alas, I'm not an elitist and don't know how to qualify as one. I would like to hear any song with that kind of title. Or just any unreleased material at all frankly wink I have most of the recent circulating boots but rumours of this kind of elitist material are tantalising smile

That being said, songs like 'Emotional Pump', 'Big Tall Wall' and 'Wally' leaked in good quality recently, so there is hope.

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Reply #85 posted 08/03/18 1:03pm

scififilmnerd

I just watched Uncovering Prince With Anna Fantastic and she says she has a cassette copy of the uncirculating I Believe I Love U that was recorded for Graffiti Bridge in 1987 and 1988. You forgot to ask H.M. Buff if he kept copies of the songs. Maybe he's got the full length She Gave Her Angels and The Divine? shocked

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Reply #86 posted 08/04/18 9:38am

Militant

moderator

scififilmnerd said:

I just watched Uncovering Prince With Anna Fantastic and she says she has a cassette copy of the uncirculating I Believe I Love U that was recorded for Graffiti Bridge in 1987 and 1988. You forgot to ask H.M. Buff if he kept copies of the songs. Maybe he's got the full length She Gave Her Angels and The Divine? shocked



Yes, Anna has that.

She is a dear friend and a wonderful person. In fact, she consulted with myself and Kim about whether or not she should upload the video demo she did for "Fantasia Erotica" plus the recordings of the phonecalls she had with Prince that are included.


I haven't heard that song - but she did play us the entire "Anna Waiting" whilst we were there, and it's phenomenal.

I don't believe that Hans kept copies of songs, that's not really good practice for an engineer. Prince may have gave him some in some cases, but I very much doubt that he would specifically make copies for himself.

I can ask him - we talk a lot on WhatsApp. After this interview, we spoke a little bit about some other songs, and he also remembers working on "Love Never Has 2 Say Goodbye".



Reply #87 posted 08/04/18 10:17am

OperatingThetan

Militant said:

 



scififilmnerd said:


I just watched Uncovering Prince With Anna Fantastic and she says she has a cassette copy of the uncirculating I Believe I Love U that was recorded for Graffiti Bridge in 1987 and 1988. You forgot to ask H.M. Buff if he kept copies of the songs. Maybe he's got the full length She Gave Her Angels and The Divine? shocked



 




Yes, Anna has that.

She is a dear friend and a wonderful person. In fact, she consulted with myself and Kim about whether or not she should upload the video demo she did for "Fantasia Erotica" plus the recordings of the phonecalls she had with Prince that are included. 



I haven't heard that song - but she did play us the entire "Anna Waiting" whilst we were there, and it's phenomenal. 


 


I don't believe that Hans kept copies of songs, that's not really good practice for an engineer. Prince may have gave him some in some cases, but I very much doubt that he would specifically make copies for himself. 

I can ask him - we talk a lot on WhatsApp. After this interview, we spoke a little bit about some other songs, and he also remembers working on "Love Never Has 2 Say Goodbye".





Could you ask him about 'Funk Radio'? It would be much appreciated.
Reply #88 posted 08/04/18 10:29am

LovePaisley

databank said:

I'm really quite surprised about this Kate Bush thing apparently having been a topic for so many. Her vocals are really obvious if you ask me, a little buried in the mix for sure, but you'll find them immediately as long as you look for them. Or maybe that's because I'm a hardcore Kate Bush fan, so the texture of her voice is very familiar to me, but there wasn't ever any doubt for me as to whether they were there or where they were.



Maybe it is familiarity, like you say. I'm so familiar with Prince's many voices and not at all with Kate Bush's, so I really need to listen to even hear her voice sandwiched in between his highs and lows.

Militant, thank you so much for a wonderful interview. Your depth of knowledge lead to deeper answers by Hans. Great all around.
And the MUSIC continues...forever...
Reply #89 posted 08/05/18 2:21am

NME01

Great interview.

Hans is very respectful of his old bosss. Not out to make a name for himself. Almost every other ‘associate’ or employee would never admit to being lucky to get the gig, or somewhat underqualified for the job Prince gave them.

Refreshing honest.
Reply #90 posted 08/05/18 6:22am

paulludvig

Militant said:

 



scififilmnerd said:


I just watched Uncovering Prince With Anna Fantastic and she says she has a cassette copy of the uncirculating I Believe I Love U that was recorded for Graffiti Bridge in 1987 and 1988. You forgot to ask H.M. Buff if he kept copies of the songs. Maybe he's got the full length She Gave Her Angels and The Divine? shocked



 




Yes, Anna has that.

She is a dear friend and a wonderful person. In fact, she consulted with myself and Kim about whether or not she should upload the video demo she did for "Fantasia Erotica" plus the recordings of the phonecalls she had with Prince that are included. 



I haven't heard that song - but she did play us the entire "Anna Waiting" whilst we were there, and it's phenomenal. 


 


I don't believe that Hans kept copies of songs, that's not really good practice for an engineer. Prince may have gave him some in some cases, but I very much doubt that he would specifically make copies for himself. 

I can ask him - we talk a lot on WhatsApp. After this interview, we spoke a little bit about some other songs, and he also remembers working on "Love Never Has 2 Say Goodbye".





Does Anna Waiting differ musically from Vicky Waiting?
The wooh is on the one!
Reply #91 posted 08/05/18 1:51pm

Militant

moderator

paulludvig said:

Militant said:



Yes, Anna has that.

She is a dear friend and a wonderful person. In fact, she consulted with myself and Kim about whether or not she should upload the video demo she did for "Fantasia Erotica" plus the recordings of the phonecalls she had with Prince that are included.


I haven't heard that song - but she did play us the entire "Anna Waiting" whilst we were there, and it's phenomenal.

I don't believe that Hans kept copies of songs, that's not really good practice for an engineer. Prince may have gave him some in some cases, but I very much doubt that he would specifically make copies for himself.

I can ask him - we talk a lot on WhatsApp. After this interview, we spoke a little bit about some other songs, and he also remembers working on "Love Never Has 2 Say Goodbye".



Does Anna Waiting differ musically from Vicky Waiting?

There's some additional guitar licks and synth parts. There's a circulating demo of "Vicki Waiting" which resembles "Anna Waiting" musically. Most of the differences though are lyrical and arrangement wise - for example, there's an additional high vocal harmony on the chorus that isn't on "Vicki".

Second verse starts with "All is well in Lonely Town" - Lonely being a play on "London".

Reply #92 posted 08/05/18 2:37pm

love2thenines2003

I know this is not the same era but I remember Prince saying during an interview (don't remember the source at all ) that Prince confirmed that an extended 20 mn + version of ADORE from SOTT sessions was recorded and is in the vault ...would be cool if Militant can keep in touch with the engineer who was in charge of this sessions (susan Rogers?) and confirm that?
Reply #93 posted 08/05/18 3:55pm

paulludvig

Militant said:

 



paulludvig said:


Militant said:

 


 




Yes, Anna has that.

She is a dear friend and a wonderful person. In fact, she consulted with myself and Kim about whether or not she should upload the video demo she did for "Fantasia Erotica" plus the recordings of the phonecalls she had with Prince that are included. 



I haven't heard that song - but she did play us the entire "Anna Waiting" whilst we were there, and it's phenomenal. 


 


I don't believe that Hans kept copies of songs, that's not really good practice for an engineer. Prince may have gave him some in some cases, but I very much doubt that he would specifically make copies for himself. 

I can ask him - we talk a lot on WhatsApp. After this interview, we spoke a little bit about some other songs, and he also remembers working on "Love Never Has 2 Say Goodbye".





Does Anna Waiting differ musically from Vicky Waiting?

 


There's some additional guitar licks and synth parts. There's a circulating demo of "Vicki Waiting" which resembles "Anna Waiting" musically. Most of the differences though are lyrical and arrangement wise - for example, there's an additional high vocal harmony on the chorus that isn't on "Vicki". 

Second verse starts with "All is well in Lonely Town" - Lonely being a play on "London". 


 


 


 




Cool! Thanks.
The wooh is on the one!
Reply #94 posted 08/06/18 9:50am

madhouseman

love2thenines2003 said:

I know this is not the same era but I remember Prince saying during an interview (don't remember the source at all ) that Prince confirmed that an extended 20 mn + version of ADORE from SOTT sessions was recorded and is in the vault ...would be cool if Militant can keep in touch with the engineer who was in charge of this sessions (susan Rogers?) and confirm that?

I've never seen that quote. Where is that from? That is a cool bit of information. Thanx!

My book PRINCE and The Purple Rain Era Studio Sessions 1983-1984 was released in November 2017. (https://www.amazon.com/Prince-Purple-Rain-Studio-Sessions/dp/1538105497/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_product_top?ie=UTF8) or go to https://www.facebook.com/...s/10915961
Reply #95 posted 08/06/18 10:25am

TheBoneRanger

madhouseman said:

love2thenines2003 said:

I know this is not the same era but I remember Prince saying during an interview (don't remember the source at all ) that Prince confirmed that an extended 20 mn + version of ADORE from SOTT sessions was recorded and is in the vault ...would be cool if Militant can keep in touch with the engineer who was in charge of this sessions (susan Rogers?) and confirm that?

I've never seen that quote. Where is that from? That is a cool bit of information. Thanx!

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That was from the Peach and Black Podcast. Two of the guys got to hang out with Prince and he mentioned the 20 minute version of Adore as well as a deluxe version of 20TEN among other things. I can't remember the exact episode number, but I'm sure if you contact the fellas they would be more than happy to hook you up. I should point out that they just recount the story because they weren't allowed to record the interview.

https://peachandblack.podbean.com/

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Hi-yo Silver, it's The Bone Ranger!
Reply #96 posted 08/07/18 9:25am

logger

Fenwick said:

Great interview. Congrats to both of you at the Violet Realty, Militant.


Great job keeping us informed with new and insightful information.


Don't bother feeding the trolls. They're beneath you, (and us) and not worth a response. In truth, I think we all would be better served if you just deleted their posts. They're antagonistic and not productive in the least.

I second that.

Reply #97 posted 08/07/18 12:42pm

OperatingThetan

TheBoneRanger said:

 



madhouseman said:


 



love2thenines2003 said:


I know this is not the same era but I remember Prince saying during an interview (don't remember the source at all ) that Prince confirmed that an extended 20 mn + version of ADORE from SOTT sessions was recorded and is in the vault ...would be cool if Militant can keep in touch with the engineer who was in charge of this sessions (susan Rogers?) and confirm that?

 


I've never seen that quote. Where is that from? That is a cool bit of information. Thanx!



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That was from the Peach and Black Podcast.  Two of the guys got to hang out with Prince and he mentioned the 20 minute version of Adore as well as a deluxe version of 20TEN among other things.  I can't remember the exact episode number, but I'm sure if you contact the fellas they would be more than happy to hook you up.  I should point out that they just recount the story because they weren't allowed to record the interview.


 


https://peachandblack.podbean.com/


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Oh for a box set of 20TEN deluxe and the Welcome 2 America album, along with any other oddities from the era. Would be a fairly good choice since 20TEN was never officially released outside Europe.
Reply #98 posted 08/07/18 1:25pm

scififilmnerd

Totally unrelated to H.M. Buff, but speaking of who has copies of what, I just watched Uncovering Prince With Elisa Fiorillo. She says she has a cassette copy of a previously unknown outtake I Think U Wanna Dance from her I Am album. That's interesting. Also, she mentions Dolphin, Strays Of The World and Dark as examples of Prince's great songwriting ability - I like that! biggrin

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Reply #99 posted 08/07/18 3:00pm

PliablyPurple

Blue Light is just alright? Unforgivable! razz. Thanks, I thought the interview at just under an hour and twenty minutes was a bit short. Should have been at least five days longer. Thanks to Hans, as well. Loved hearing about Larry Graham. Dude gets a bad rap from certain parts, nice to hear something positive from someone who actually met the man.

Reply #100 posted 08/07/18 4:17pm

luvsexy4all

OperatingThetan said:

TheBoneRanger said:

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That was from the Peach and Black Podcast. Two of the guys got to hang out with Prince and he mentioned the 20 minute version of Adore as well as a deluxe version of 20TEN among other things. I can't remember the exact episode number, but I'm sure if you contact the fellas they would be more than happy to hook you up. I should point out that they just recount the story because they weren't allowed to record the interview.

https://peachandblack.podbean.com/

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Oh for a box set of 20TEN deluxe and the Welcome 2 America album, along with any other oddities from the era. Would be a fairly good choice since 20TEN was never officially released outside Europe.

we'll all be dead before they delve into that time period

Reply #101 posted 08/07/18 4:53pm

PeteSilas

scififilmnerd said:

Totally unrelated to H.M. Buff, but speaking of who has copies of what, I just watched Uncovering Prince With Elisa Fiorillo. She says she has a cassette copy of a previously unknown outtake I Think U Wanna Dance from her I Am album. That's interesting. Also, she mentions Dolphin, Strays Of The World and Dark as examples of Prince's great songwriting ability - I like that! biggrin

i always loved strays, i felt a kinship with that notion which prince always embodied anyway.

Prince.org: With fans like these he didn't need haters.
Reply #102 posted 08/07/18 11:45pm

TheBoneRanger

luvsexy4all said:

OperatingThetan said:

TheBoneRanger said: Oh for a box set of 20TEN deluxe and the Welcome 2 America album, along with any other oddities from the era. Would be a fairly good choice since 20TEN was never officially released outside Europe.

we'll all be dead before they delve into that time period

That would be a shame.

Hi-yo Silver, it's The Bone Ranger!
Reply #103 posted 08/08/18 1:49am

madhouseman

TheBoneRanger said:

madhouseman said:

I've never seen that quote. Where is that from? That is a cool bit of information. Thanx!

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That was from the Peach and Black Podcast. Two of the guys got to hang out with Prince and he mentioned the 20 minute version of Adore as well as a deluxe version of 20TEN among other things. I can't remember the exact episode number, but I'm sure if you contact the fellas they would be more than happy to hook you up. I should point out that they just recount the story because they weren't allowed to record the interview.

https://peachandblack.podbean.com/

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Thank you. Love Peach & Black! I'll check it out.

My book PRINCE and The Purple Rain Era Studio Sessions 1983-1984 was released in November 2017. (https://www.amazon.com/Prince-Purple-Rain-Studio-Sessions/dp/1538105497/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_product_top?ie=UTF8) or go to https://www.facebook.com/...s/10915961
Reply #104 posted 08/08/18 11:30am

TheBoneRanger

madhouseman said:

TheBoneRanger said:

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That was from the Peach and Black Podcast. Two of the guys got to hang out with Prince and he mentioned the 20 minute version of Adore as well as a deluxe version of 20TEN among other things. I can't remember the exact episode number, but I'm sure if you contact the fellas they would be more than happy to hook you up. I should point out that they just recount the story because they weren't allowed to record the interview.

https://peachandblack.podbean.com/

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Thank you. Love Peach & Black! I'll check it out.

You're welcome. I just listened to the most recent show (non album tracks VOL 2) and when they reviewed "Rich Friends," which was supposed to be on 20TEN deluxe, they said the meeting with Prince happened in 2010. So that particular show after the meet probably came out in 2010 or early 2011.

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I'm looking forward to more in your "Studio Sessions" series. You're doing important work! Perhaps you and Hans can get together if/when you're able to do the 1996-2000 era.

cool

Hi-yo Silver, it's The Bone Ranger!
Reply #105 posted 08/09/18 6:11pm

Militant

moderator

If anyone's interested, our new episode is up with Tamar smile

Reply #106 posted 08/12/18 7:03pm

TheBoneRanger

Militant said:

If anyone's interested, our new episode is up with Tamar smile

cool

Cool, thanks! I'll have to check out some more of your interviews. Great work!

biggrin

Hi-yo Silver, it's The Bone Ranger!
Reply #107 posted 08/13/18 3:17am

fishwillbite

TheBoneRanger said:

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Ditto on the "Release It" beat sample. That's the one I would most want, too.

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Isn't that sample just the opening bars of Squib Cakes by Tower of Power?

PIPS! Eurgh...
Reply #108 posted 08/13/18 4:49am

TheBoneRanger

fishwillbite said:

TheBoneRanger said:

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Ditto on the "Release It" beat sample. That's the one I would most want, too.

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Isn't that sample just the opening bars of Squib Cakes by Tower of Power?

Is it? I'll be damned.

Hi-yo Silver, it's The Bone Ranger!
Reply #109 posted 08/13/18 9:26am

timmie

Great work on those interviews - Cheers ! Love hearing things from the people who knew him. So interesting !

Reply #110 posted 08/16/18 5:33am

Vannormal

Hans Martin Buff says : "There's two albums for every one that was released..."

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THAT'S ABOUT WHAT ? 50/70 OR SO UNRELEASED ALBUMS ???

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eek

"...no matter what, all will be fine, always."
Reply #111 posted 08/16/18 4:59pm

ChocolateBox3121

I LOVE Han's quirky sense of humor. I can imagine him and Prince had a LOT of laughs together.

So Prince, whom fought 4 his first record deal & got it, fought 4 a movie deal & got it, fought 4 freedom from his WB contract & got it, fought 4 his masters & got them.Gets a curable illness & says 2 himself ok, I'm done. "Life is a Box Of Chocolates"
Reply #112 posted 08/21/18 8:42am

Dsoul

Good stuff but where is the NewPowerSoul chat?
Reply #113 posted 08/27/18 10:48am

violetcrush

Militant said:

If anyone's interested, our new episode is up with Tamar smile

Another great interview!!! Love, love, love your knowledge and enthusiasm for all things Prince!! Your episodes are well organized, include smart and interesting questions, and are also very entertaining. You and Kim are certainly part of the "Prince-o-pedia" club, which is impressive, because I don't think you two were around, or old enough for Prince in the 80's smile

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Tamar is a fantastic singer, and seems to be a sweet and geniune person. Being a teen in the 80's and a HUGE Revolution fan, however, I was sad when she said she did not know who Wendy and Lisa were when she was performing on stage with them at the 2006 Brit awards. I know her age and musical exposure at that time played a part, but even more disheartening was that Prince did not tell her they would be on stage prior to the show sad I can only imagine how she felt afterward.

Reply #114 posted 08/27/18 10:50am

violetcrush

madhouseman said:

TheBoneRanger said:

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That was from the Peach and Black Podcast. Two of the guys got to hang out with Prince and he mentioned the 20 minute version of Adore as well as a deluxe version of 20TEN among other things. I can't remember the exact episode number, but I'm sure if you contact the fellas they would be more than happy to hook you up. I should point out that they just recount the story because they weren't allowed to record the interview.

https://peachandblack.podbean.com/

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Thank you. Love Peach & Black! I'll check it out.

Madhouseman - LOVED your book. Read it in two days!! You MUST do the 85-87 recordings!!!

Reply #115 posted 08/28/18 9:56am

scififilmnerd

I enjoyed the Támar interview. I hope she got a copy of On Your Own. It's amazing that she doesn't have a copy of her previously unknown Milk & Honey-outtake Esther either. eek Anyway, watching the interview made me pull out my copy of Milk & Honey and giving it a few spins. As Prince's latter-day protegées go, this album was among the better. Love Redhead Stepchild, too. biggrin

I've been listening to prince's 1993-1996 recordings of late, including On Your Own, so it was fun hearing the story behind that recording. razz

Now, as for other people from that era...Chronic Freeze had a questionnaire thread on the Org once and he didn't remember much of interest regarding the prince Era recordings, but might I suggest Ricky Peterson for an upcoming episode of Uncovering Prince by The Violet Reality? He co-produced some songs back then, including for The Gold Experience and Madhouse: 24 - he even worked on The Most Beautiful Girl In The World. Maybe he knows who it was originally about before prince sent it to his entire harem? And maybe he knows if there was a pre-existing recording of 319 from the Batman Era sessions (as Cat has claimed) before prince re-recorded it with The NPG with Ricky's help? Just a suggestion. wink

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Reply #116 posted 08/28/18 1:28pm

violetcrush

scififilmnerd said:

I enjoyed the Támar interview. I hope she got a copy of On Your Own. It's amazing that she doesn't have a copy of her previously unknown Milk & Honey-outtake Esther either. eek Anyway, watching the interview made me pull out my copy of Milk & Honey and giving it a few spins. As Prince's latter-day protegées go, this album was among the better. Love Redhead Stepchild, too. biggrin

I've been listening to prince's 1993-1996 recordings of late, including On Your Own, so it was fun hearing the story behind that recording. razz

Now, as for other people from that era...Chronic Freeze had a questionnaire thread on the Org once and he didn't remember much of interest regarding the prince Era recordings, but might I suggest Ricky Peterson for an upcoming episode of Uncovering Prince by The Violet Reality? He co-produced some songs back then, including for The Gold Experience and Madhouse: 24 - he even worked on The Most Beautiful Girl In The World. Maybe he knows who it was originally about before prince sent it to his entire harem? And maybe he knows if there was a pre-existing recording of 319 from the Batman Era sessions (as Cat has claimed) before prince re-recorded it with The NPG with Ricky's help? Just a suggestion. wink

Ricky Peterson is a great suggestion. He goes all the way back to the early days with Prince, and would certainly have loads of information to share on both 80's and 90's recording.

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Redheaded Stepchild is my favorite Prince/Tamar song, and 319 is probably my favorite track on the Gold album, along with I Hate U smile I had not heard that 319 was possibly recorded back in '89. Wow, that would be an interesting story to hear.

Reply #117 posted 08/30/18 4:16pm

Militant

moderator

scififilmnerd said:

I enjoyed the Támar interview. I hope she got a copy of On Your Own. It's amazing that she doesn't have a copy of her previously unknown Milk & Honey-outtake Esther either. eek Anyway, watching the interview made me pull out my copy of Milk & Honey and giving it a few spins. As Prince's latter-day protegées go, this album was among the better. Love Redhead Stepchild, too. biggrin

I've been listening to prince's 1993-1996 recordings of late, including On Your Own, so it was fun hearing the story behind that recording. razz

Now, as for other people from that era...Chronic Freeze had a questionnaire thread on the Org once and he didn't remember much of interest regarding the prince Era recordings, but might I suggest Ricky Peterson for an upcoming episode of Uncovering Prince by The Violet Reality? He co-produced some songs back then, including for The Gold Experience and Madhouse: 24 - he even worked on The Most Beautiful Girl In The World. Maybe he knows who it was originally about before prince sent it to his entire harem? And maybe he knows if there was a pre-existing recording of 319 from the Batman Era sessions (as Cat has claimed) before prince re-recorded it with The NPG with Ricky's help? Just a suggestion. wink




Funny you should say that.... in April, Kim and I were invited to Paul (and Ricky's) family house to watch fDeluxe rehearse the day before their set at Paisley.

It was just the band, their manager, myself, Kim and Ricky there.

I made sure to tell him how much I enjoyed his work on songs like TMBGITW and Letitgo.

He's a busy guy, and I believe is now on the road with Fleetwood Mac, but we'd definitely love to interview him sometime.






Reply #118 posted 08/31/18 9:52am

violetcrush

Militant said:

scififilmnerd said:

I enjoyed the Támar interview. I hope she got a copy of On Your Own. It's amazing that she doesn't have a copy of her previously unknown Milk & Honey-outtake Esther either. eek Anyway, watching the interview made me pull out my copy of Milk & Honey and giving it a few spins. As Prince's latter-day protegées go, this album was among the better. Love Redhead Stepchild, too. biggrin

I've been listening to prince's 1993-1996 recordings of late, including On Your Own, so it was fun hearing the story behind that recording. razz

Now, as for other people from that era...Chronic Freeze had a questionnaire thread on the Org once and he didn't remember much of interest regarding the prince Era recordings, but might I suggest Ricky Peterson for an upcoming episode of Uncovering Prince by The Violet Reality? He co-produced some songs back then, including for The Gold Experience and Madhouse: 24 - he even worked on The Most Beautiful Girl In The World. Maybe he knows who it was originally about before prince sent it to his entire harem? And maybe he knows if there was a pre-existing recording of 319 from the Batman Era sessions (as Cat has claimed) before prince re-recorded it with The NPG with Ricky's help? Just a suggestion. wink




Funny you should say that.... in April, Kim and I were invited to Paul (and Ricky's) family house to watch fDeluxe rehearse the day before their set at Paisley.

It was just the band, their manager, myself, Kim and Ricky there.

I made sure to tell him how much I enjoyed his work on songs like TMBGITW and Letitgo.

He's a busy guy, and I believe is now on the road with Fleetwood Mac, but we'd definitely love to interview him sometime.






Wow, what a treat. I believe they streamed on FB Live at Paul's house after that rehearsal.

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What about an interview with Susannah? She has so much information on recordings for the 83-87 years. I loved her interview with Toure, which was more focused on her relationship with Prince, but it would also be great to hear more about her experiences with recording the songs with him during that period.

Reply #119 posted 09/04/18 8:40am

rwielink

hi,

Thanks a lot for the interview, good stuff!!

One question on the interview: Hans-Martin refers 2 times to the decision to "open the studio". what is this about? making Paisley Park available to be rented by musicians as in the first years?

Secondly, general question: would you consider sharing the audio-only of your interviews similar to podcasts like Peach and Black and the Prince Podcat? I'm sure there's quite an audience interested in that (i converted the audio now to mp3 to listen to it on my commute).

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Reply #120 posted 09/04/18 9:43am

scififilmnerd

rwielink said:

Secondly, general question: would you consider sharing the audio-only of your interviews similar to podcasts like Peach and Black and the Prince Podcat? I'm sure there's quite an audience interested in that (i converted the audio now to mp3 to listen to it on my commute).

As long as we still get the video-version of the interview. Like, I didn't care much for the Judith Hill interview because I couldn't see her. confused

I'm old-fashioned. I prefer interviews I can read. But videos are okay, though - as long as you can see who's talking. I don't listen to pod-casts. wink

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Reply #121 posted 09/04/18 12:56pm

violetcrush

scififilmnerd said:

rwielink said:

Secondly, general question: would you consider sharing the audio-only of your interviews similar to podcasts like Peach and Black and the Prince Podcat? I'm sure there's quite an audience interested in that (i converted the audio now to mp3 to listen to it on my commute).

As long as we still get the video-version of the interview. Like, I didn't care much for the Judith Hill interview because I couldn't see her. confused

I'm old-fashioned. I prefer interviews I can read. But videos are okay, though - as long as you can see who's talking. I don't listen to pod-casts. wink

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I actually like all of the Questlove interviews on his Pandora podcast. Guess it's personal preference. I don't mind not having the visual.

Reply #122 posted 09/09/18 3:03pm

Militant

moderator

rwielink said:

hi,

Thanks a lot for the interview, good stuff!!

One question on the interview: Hans-Martin refers 2 times to the decision to "open the studio". what is this about? making Paisley Park available to be rented by musicians as in the first years?

Secondly, general question: would you consider sharing the audio-only of your interviews similar to podcasts like Peach and Black and the Prince Podcat? I'm sure there's quite an audience interested in that (i converted the audio now to mp3 to listen to it on my commute).

Hi! Glad you enjoyed.

On the former - yes, that's what he meant. Opening the place up as a publicly rentable facility, as it was originally.

On the second question....... Possibly. But, simply streaming the audio isn't really the same thing as a podcast. Podcasts are generally more like a "produced show" with audio transitions, narrated parts, introductions. We do "produced" shows on YouTube as well but the transitions are visual, etc.

So I don't really have a huge amount of interest in making a produced podcast show. Plenty of people doing that already. But, if there's some interest in simply having the audio track of our interviews available separately, that's a possibility.



Reply #123 posted 09/14/18 4:28pm

Militant

moderator

NEW EPISODE OF UNCOVERING PRINCE is up!!! Part 1 of our interview with MORRIS HAYES from THE NPG.



URL: http://prince.org/msg/7/455746/

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