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Thread started 07/02/18 11:34am

lonelyalien

Aside from America which was prince's favourite country to play in?

Just wondered if he ever mentioned whether he had a favourite country to play or maybe there are some stats of the country he played the most outside of the U.S.?

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Reply #1 posted 07/02/18 11:44am

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Reply #3 posted 07/02/18 12:04pm

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i'd argue that the US wasn't even his favorite...probably just most convenient/profitable.

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i'd argue that the US wasn't even his favorite...probably just most convenient/profitable.


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Reply #5 posted 07/02/18 12:19pm

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From what I've been exposed to on the Org, it seems to me that in contiental Europe he hit France, Netherlands, and Germany pretty hard on his touring pathway. The UK is naturally up there, as he could most readily communicate with his audiences and there's the cultural affinity of some of his pop influences and contemporaries. Canada would be a pretty quick n' easy international destination. Then there's L.A. (LOL) and south of L.A....

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I actually couldn't imagine where he himself felt was favorite, but for the rest of the fans, Let the debate roll pissed evillol

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Reply #6 posted 07/02/18 12:34pm

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Europe gets "weird Prince", the idiosyncrasies, the experimental stuff.
I think America is still traumatized by Purple Rain, it's almost definitive
in terms of R'n'R American Dream movie, because what happens to Prince by the end of the movie
is a self-fulfilling prophecy: he sings he's a star, and six months later, he is.

Given America has a fascination for the started-from-the-bottom-made-it-to-the-top drama,
it's no wonder that no matter what Prince could have tried afterwards,
you can't repeat such a aresonance in a national credo. Plus, there's the race layer,
Purple Rain is a movie that doesn't shy from Uptown.

I think narrowing to cities would be more appropriate:
Minneapolis, Paris, London, Amsterdam, Milan...
In the end I don't think it really mattered to him, you get incredible
live bootlegs from every tour in every country, it's a question of vibe.
Even if every country responds differently as a concert audience (Japan is an example),
I highly doubt Prince ever got a cold public. Can't you hear this woman just scream?

Of course I'm gonna be partial to Paris, because he lived here,
because Paris made the SOTT tracklist and the Special Thanks 2,
because of UTCM and Parade, because of the Lovexy Tour kick-off,
because of Le New Morning's "Just My Imagination" (The Dutch Trojan Horse's twin).
And because of the incredible heavy-metal gospel version of the aforelinkedto.

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Reply #7 posted 07/02/18 12:36pm

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Germanegro said:

From what I've been exposed to on the Org, it seems to me that in contiental Europe he hit France, Netherlands, and Germany pretty hard on his touring pathway. The UK is naturally up there, as he could most readily communicate with his audiences and there's the cultural affinity of some of his pop influences and contemporaries. Canada would be a pretty quick n' easy international destination. Then there's L.A. (LOL) and south of L.A....

prince

I actually couldn't imagine where he himself felt was favorite, but for the rest of the fans, Let the debate roll pissed evillol


He also loved Spain.

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Reply #8 posted 07/02/18 12:38pm

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Canada, Europe

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Reply #9 posted 07/02/18 12:56pm

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Canada, Europe


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Reply #10 posted 07/02/18 12:57pm

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Europe is a continent not a country did he never mention any as specific favourites to play?

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Reply #11 posted 07/02/18 12:57pm

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Judging from the number of times he played there, it's Britain with Holland coming up second. But we're a smaller country, so there's obviously going to be fewer concerts.
But for the Dortmund 88 show, tickets were sold exclusively in Holland, which makes four Dutch shows that year.
And on the Diamonds & Pearls tour, he did more shows in Rotterdam than in Paris. (Sorry, bonatoc wink )
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NorthC said:

Judging from the number of times he played there, it's Britain with Holland coming up second. But we're a smaller country, so there's obviously going to be fewer concerts. But for the Dortmund 88 show, tickets were sold exclusively in Holland, which makes tour Dutch shows that year. And on the Diamonds & Pearls tour, he did more shows in Rotterdam than in Paris. (Sorry, bonatoc wink ) He loved us and we loved him. [Edited 7/2/18 12:58pm]



Only because you're the center of Europe.
Bad tour anyway. Shut up.

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Reply #13 posted 07/02/18 1:09pm

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I think its the U.K overall. Maybe he liked going to the pub and eating fish and chips.
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Reply #14 posted 07/02/18 1:28pm

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Gee--I wonder if Prince ever held a show in one of the nations on the great Motherland continent of Africa? I don't know for certain whether he ever did so. I don't know what his reception there is, was, or might have been, although upon occasion of introducing his recordings to African women here in the USA, at least, its been all good! Can anyone here speak to that? I guess if he did go to an African country he'd be looking at some great travel distances that would make the cost expensive for a concert tour. Ease could play a factor in what made someplace a favorite, among other tangibels.

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Reply #15 posted 07/02/18 1:34pm

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Germanegro said:

Gee--I wonder if Prince ever held a show in one of the nations on the great Motherland continent of Africa? I don't know for certain whether he ever did so. I don't know what his reception there is, was, or might have been, although upon occasion of introducing his recordings to African women here in the USA, at least, its been all good! Can anyone here speak to that? I guess if he did go to an African country he'd be looking at some great travel distances that would make the cost expensive for a concert tour. Ease could play a factor in what made someplace a favorite, among other tangibels.


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I've been to Kenya, Tanzania and Ethiopia and I've heard a Prince song only once, in a tourist disco. Add to that the fact that lots of people there cannot afford a concert ticket and you will see that there simply wasn't an audience for him there.
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NorthC said:

Germanegro said:

Gee--I wonder if Prince ever held a show in one of the nations on the great Motherland continent of Africa? I don't know for certain whether he ever did so. I don't know what his reception there is, was, or might have been, although upon occasion of introducing his recordings to African women here in the USA, at least, its been all good! Can anyone here speak to that? I guess if he did go to an African country he'd be looking at some great travel distances that would make the cost expensive for a concert tour. Ease could play a factor in what made someplace a favorite, among other tangibels.

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I've been to Kenya, Tanzania and Ethiopia and I've heard a Prince song only once, in a tourist disco. Add to that the fact that lots of people there cannot afford a concert ticket and you will see that there simply wasn't an audience for him there.

That's an interesting demographic assessment--It is not like all of the party- concert-goers out that way don't have the money to spend on attending a show, however lol. I haven't a clue to what his image/market penetration is, but if the African population's following is strictly limited, that would certainly be an impediment to making a visible touring arrangment! FWIW I wonder if he did any shows at all on that continent, nevertheless. It may or may not have been a development to generate media attention.

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Reply #17 posted 07/02/18 2:22pm

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No, he never played in Africa. You have to remember that we're talking about a continent where €50 a month is a normal salary. (I was there ten years ago, I don't know what it's like now.) No money to be made there and in Africa, everything that can go wrong usually will. If you're a perfectionist and a control freak, Africa will quickly cure you of that.
Also, I don't think Prince's androgynous image appealed to Africans. Besides African music, what I heard there was r&b, hiphop, reggae (Bob Marley is everywhere) and, strangely enough, country. You were more likely to hear Kenny Rogers in Kenya than Prince.
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Reply #18 posted 07/02/18 2:27pm

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Canada, eh! Enough that he bought a home here, married a local and shopped here regularly and one of his fav musicians is Canadian. If you don't know, you better ask someone.
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Reply #19 posted 07/02/18 2:35pm

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Reply #21 posted 07/02/18 2:43pm

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Belgium off course
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Reply #23 posted 07/02/18 3:07pm

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NorthC said:

No, he never played in Africa. You have to remember that we're talking about a continent where €50 a month is a normal salary. (I was there ten years ago, I don't know what it's like now.) No money to be made there and in Africa, everything that can go wrong usually will. If you're a perfectionist and a control freak, Africa will quickly cure you of that.
Also, I don't think Prince's androgynous image appealed to Africans. Besides African music, what I heard there was r&b, hiphop, reggae (Bob Marley is everywhere) and, strangely enough, country. You were more likely to hear Kenny Rogers in Kenya than Prince.


There is plenty of money in the South African market. They get full stadium shows from major international acts. The last few years have included: Bruce Springsteen, U2, Lady GaGa, Coldplay, Eminem and loads more. Also arena/theatre shows. Cat Stevens was playing reasonable sized venues a few months ago. Guns n Roses and Ed Shiran are on sale now. There were rumours a few years ago he was going to play Cape Town and JHB, I guess it would have been smaller venues. Those cities are big enough with international and internationally minded people to fill a reasonable sized venue.

I hear Prince occasionally around Africa, probably more since his passing, but even my little local radio station in Botswana will play something is and then and his old videos have always played on VH1.
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Reply #24 posted 07/02/18 3:20pm

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NorthC said:

Judging from the number of times he played there, it's Britain with Holland coming up second. But we're a smaller country, so there's obviously going to be fewer concerts. But for the Dortmund 88 show, tickets were sold exclusively in Holland, which makes four Dutch shows that year. And on the Diamonds & Pearls tour, he did more shows in Rotterdam than in Paris. (Sorry, bonatoc wink ) He loved us and we loved him. [Edited 7/2/18 12:58pm] [Edited 7/2/18 13:00pm]

I nominate Holland, as he frequently toured there despite it not having a particularly large population or area. He had more top 10 hits in Holland than anywhere (if memory serves me it was slightly higher than the US) and his albums always charted especially high there. Prince seemed like to play where he knew they would be receptive, and that was certainly the case in Holland.

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Reply #25 posted 07/02/18 4:12pm

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I would suggest London/UK, certainly in the latter part of his career. 21 Nights at the O2 in 2007, HitnRun I (and II) in 2014, the planned opening of Piano & a Microphone in 2015.

But it's all speculation.

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gandorb said:

NorthC said:

Judging from the number of times he played there, it's Britain with Holland coming up second. But we're a smaller country, so there's obviously going to be fewer concerts. But for the Dortmund 88 show, tickets were sold exclusively in Holland, which makes four Dutch shows that year. And on the Diamonds & Pearls tour, he did more shows in Rotterdam than in Paris. (Sorry, bonatoc wink ) He loved us and we loved him. [Edited 7/2/18 12:58pm] [Edited 7/2/18 13:00pm]

I nominate Holland, as he frequently toured there despite it not having a particularly large population or area. He had more top 10 hits in Holland than anywhere (if memory serves me it was slightly higher than the US) and his albums always charted especially high there. Prince seemed like to play where he knew they would be receptive, and that was certainly the case in Holland.


Big market for him, and a very strong fanbase.
Don't we owe Per Nilsen to Never... Sorry, The Netherlands?


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Reply #27 posted 07/02/18 6:27pm

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The one he was in that day/night.

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Reply #29 posted 07/02/18 11:45pm

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Did an Excel exercise on data from princevault.com regarding tour dates/concerts outside the US.
Data from the 80's 90's 00's and 10's

Country Sum of Concerts
England 97
Germany 43
Canada 40
Japan 37
Australia 36
The Netherlands 36
France 24
Denmark 16
Denmark 16
Belgium 15
Italy 15
Sweden 15
Switzerland 9
Norway 6
Ireland 6
Austria 5
Scotland 5
Portugal 3
New Zealand 2
Poland 1
Luxembourg 1
Finland 1
Hungary 1

So in relation to country size/population/potential market share, the Netherlands was his favorite country cool


And of course because of Candy Dulfer, Anna Fantastic and Loïs Lane.
Oh and because of the best ever live gig he did in the Paard van Troje (Small Club, 2nd Show That Night)

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