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Reply #30 posted 06/15/18 4:05pm

tomds

Sony did the bad 25 edition which was very good. Including unreleased material and a concert dvd in a nice deluxe packaging. It had also remixes but i think they didn't have much outtakes to work.with.
They also did the king of pop compilation. They asked the fans in every big country which songs they wanted to have on the cd. The result was different issues in different countries with lots of surprises. Especially the french edition is very good including several extended versions previously only available on vinyl.
Finally the xscape cd was very good since it included the original unfinished versions combined with the remastered versions.
So I believe this deal can work out very good.
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Reply #31 posted 06/15/18 4:10pm

Silvertongue7

jstar69 said:

Wow - will Sony release something to compete with the WB release. Strategically speaking, it’s highly likely!!!
[Edited 6/15/18 15:58pm]

Flooding the market with competing releases? it worked a treat in the 90s, I’m sure it will work again...
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Reply #32 posted 06/15/18 4:46pm

TrivialPursuit

rdhull said:

How long before this one goes kablooey?


I wonder. Remember that there is still a pending lawsuit regarding MJ and Sony releasing Michael, an album that had songs on it that were not MJ singing. To his credit, at least Prince finished songs (mostly) opposed to MJ leaving stuff in half-assed shape for years and years.

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Reply #33 posted 06/15/18 4:52pm

williamb610

I'm cautious and happy.

Thanks Prince Estate!

Now releasey the music! Every MONTH Please!!!

NO streaming either!!! We/I want to buy and own!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Reply #34 posted 06/15/18 5:01pm

Neversin

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Great Newz

Bart Van Hemelen

nothing but love for you man !!

i even spelled checked myself

tonk

[Edited 6/15/18 14:31pm]


[Snip - luv4u]

Neversin.

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Reply #35 posted 06/15/18 5:20pm

Lovejunky

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jjam said:

https://variety.com/2018/...202848408/

Sony Music has struck a deal with Prince's estate to license the artist's music that is not under contract to Warner Music, as well as much of his "vault" containing thousands of unreleased recordings, three sources close to the situation tell Variety, although it was unclear at press time whether the agreement had been finalized........

I think this is essentially a good thing...

Post WB Prince wrote many UNEXPLOITED Gems...

I use that word because most of it, with the expepiton of Musicology

did not reach the wider market place.

Sony will for certain be wanting to make lots of CA$H from their deal

and will do their best to make sure they make the most of what they have.

At the end of the day

that spells MORE Prince on the airwaves

World needs his music..

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Reply #36 posted 06/15/18 5:37pm

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Neversin said:

madison said:

Great Newz

Bart Van Hemelen

nothing but love for you man !!

i even spelled checked myself

tonk

[Edited 6/15/18 14:31pm]


[Snip - luv4u]

Neversin.


drunk shit... but it was true...

Neversin.

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Reply #37 posted 06/15/18 6:06pm

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tomds said:

Sony did the bad 25 edition which was very good. Including unreleased material and a concert dvd in a nice deluxe packaging. It had also remixes but i think they didn't have much outtakes to work.with.

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They couldn't even be bothered to compile the remixes etc.

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Reply #38 posted 06/15/18 6:10pm

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Variety updated the article. https://variety.com/2018/...202848408/

Sony Music has struck a deal with Prince’s estate to license an unspecified catalog of the artist’s music, three sources close to the situation tell Variety, although it was unclear at press time whether the agreement had been finalized.
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Reply #39 posted 06/15/18 6:19pm

Circler

For what it’s worth, I’ve always been impressed by Sony’s Legacy Recordings releases. I’m not sure I’d consider them to be the Gold Standard of archival reissues, but I personally have quite a few Legacy Edition releases in my collection and I’ve had very few complaints about the quality of remastering, packaging, or liner notes. If Sony offers the same level of care and attention to Prince’s non-WB releases that Legacy Recordings offered to Miles Davis, Jeff Buckley and others then I will be very satisfied and first in line at my local wrecka stow. So... fingers crossed.
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Reply #40 posted 06/15/18 7:12pm

TurnItUp

Neversin said:

Neversin said:


[Snip - luv4u]

Neversin.


drunk shit... but it was true...

Neversin.

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Reply #41 posted 06/15/18 7:16pm

Militant

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rogifan said:

In an interview during the Musicology era Prince discussed his deal with Sony saying “they’ve just been beautiful all around”. Why all the skepticism?


Prince was also involved in a lawsuit towards the end of his life with Sony, over the Judith Hill record.


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Reply #42 posted 06/15/18 7:37pm

Haystack

TurnItUp said:



Neversin said:




Neversin said:




[Snip - luv4u]

Neversin.




drunk shit... but it was true...

Neversin.




[Snip - luv4u]



[Keep thread on topic, thanks snip - luv4u]
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Reply #43 posted 06/15/18 8:13pm

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Militant said:

rogifan said:

In an interview during the Musicology era Prince discussed his deal with Sony saying “they’ve just been beautiful all around”. Why all the skepticism?


Prince was also involved in a lawsuit towards the end of his life with Sony, over the Judith Hill record.


Well..lets face it..

He did kind of steal her away from them...smile

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Reply #44 posted 06/15/18 9:52pm

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Lovejunky said:

Militant said:


Prince was also involved in a lawsuit towards the end of his life with Sony, over the Judith Hill record.


Well..lets face it..

He did kind of steal her away from them...smile

yeahthat lol

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Reply #45 posted 06/15/18 10:01pm

ladygirl99

bluefish said:

This is good news, IMO. Finally, an outlet for Prince's post-WB material, which frankly, I'm more interested in.

First 2 releases should be Piano & a Microphone 2016 and Black is the New Black.

I agree with the release of Piano & Mic 2016 and I have a strong feeling they would attract the mass listerners.

I am also looking forward to hear his post-WB material too. lol

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Reply #46 posted 06/15/18 10:32pm

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bluefish said:

This is good news, IMO. Finally, an outlet for Prince's post-WB material, which frankly, I'm more interested in.

First 2 releases should be Piano & a Microphone 2016 and Black is the New Black.



Could not agree more. But is it possible they fall under that new Warner’s deal he made?
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Reply #47 posted 06/15/18 10:41pm

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Revolution18 said:

This is terrible news. I hope I am wrong but after what Sony did to the Michael Jackson releases I don't hold much hope. Here some info for those who don't no. First MJ release was a greatest hits from "This Is It" this had one new song and album versions of hits with the also the movie. (That actually was decent) The next album was "Michael" 3 of the ten tracks were sung by an impersonater and not Michael the other 7 songs were produced ok but none of the songs were fully the way Michael left them. Then there was immortal a remix album for cirque. This would of been better if they had got the actual producers who worked on the music to make this remix album just like they got George Martin and his son to remix The Beatles for the "Love Album" Then we got Xscape which was remixed by Timberland. That was ok but I don't like the thought of anybody touching Prince's music let alone making songs into duets that didn't happen like they did with Michael and Justin Timberlake. Then the latest release has been another greatest hits. Sorry for the rant but I really don't hold much faith in Sony.

Side note...Sony didn't pick or was really in charge of the content chosen on the posthumous MJ albums. That's on MJ's estate

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Reply #48 posted 06/16/18 12:42am

humblestone

jjam said:

UPDATED: https://variety.com/2018/...202848408/



UPDATED: Sony Music has struck a deal with Prince's estate to license an unspecified catalog of the artist's music, three sources close to the situation tell Variety, although it was unclear at press time whether the agreement had been finalized.....



The whole catalogue should be released by Warner!!!!
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Reply #49 posted 06/16/18 1:22am

jjam

Apparently that report of Sony suing Prince re the Judith Hill album is incorrect - Prince was sued by a music producer who signed Judith Hill to a deal.

https://www.rollingstone....d-20150328

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Reply #50 posted 06/16/18 1:26am

Lovejunky

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jjam said:

Apparently that report of Sony suing Prince re the Judith Hill album is incorrect - Prince was sued by a music producer who signed Judith Hill to a deal.

https://www.rollingstone....d-20150328

Interesting...TMZ Strikes again...

seems like it all amounted to naught though

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Reply #51 posted 06/16/18 2:34am

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An interesting development.

It's good to see forward movement on all three fronts: WB, Tidal and Sony. Who cares if they clash, monopolies are never helpful.

Sony vs Warners should enable healthy competition to aim for quality releases, rather than just releasing what will sell. Now they are slightly in competition with each other for substance to attract dollars.

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Reply #52 posted 06/16/18 3:24am

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I don't like Prince and MJ on the same label. It'll be a conflict of interest and a constant competition between them all over again. But I do feel Sony will be a better fit for his Vault of thousands of unreleased music and video footage(which I am most interested in).I want to finally see the unreleased 3121 movie that Prince spent 6 months preparing.

So Prince, whom fought 4 his first record deal & got it, fought 4 a movie deal & got it, fought 4 freedom from his WB contract & got it, fought 4 his masters & got them.Gets a curable illness & says 2 himself ok, I'm done. "Life is a Box Of Chocolates"
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Reply #53 posted 06/16/18 3:37am

Silvertongue7

I don’t know enough about the industry to have an opinion on Sony, although what some have mentioned about having an impersonator singing in that MJ album is appalling (I remember hearing about it, but I always thought it was a rumour).
I do think however that the whole catalog should be in one company so that there is a global plan on how to release it and market it. Considering how poor WBRs decisions have been so far, though, maybe they are not the company that should be in charge and Sony would be a better option. We’ll see how it goes.
One question - I understand that WBR have the rights to the outtakes from the time Prince was with them, as they paid for the studio and so on. Does this include tracks recorded entirely in Paisley Park? Was it Prince who paid the musicians and technicians involved, or was it still WBR? As I said, I don’t know much about the industry or the legal aspects of it all.
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Reply #54 posted 06/16/18 4:44am

rogifan

Unspecified? What does that mean? His entire post WB catalog needs to be with one entity. Not some piecemeal thing. Ugh.
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Reply #55 posted 06/16/18 5:05am

leecaldon

bluefish said:

Vannormal said:

No one else is waiting for, lets say 1996-2003 material right now (right ?)

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I want 2010-2016 material.

So do I.

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Reply #56 posted 06/16/18 5:07am

leecaldon

Revolution18 said:

This is terrible news. I hope I am wrong but after what Sony did to the Michael Jackson releases I don't hold much hope. Here some info for those who don't no. First MJ release was a greatest hits from "This Is It" this had one new song and album versions of hits with the also the movie. (That actually was decent) The next album was "Michael" 3 of the ten tracks were sung by an impersonater and not Michael the other 7 songs were produced ok but none of the songs were fully the way Michael left them. Then there was immortal a remix album for cirque. This would of been better if they had got the actual producers who worked on the music to make this remix album just like they got George Martin and his son to remix The Beatles for the "Love Album" Then we got Xscape which was remixed by Timberland. That was ok but I don't like the thought of anybody touching Prince's music let alone making songs into duets that didn't happen like they did with Michael and Justin Timberlake. Then the latest release has been another greatest hits. Sorry for the rant but I really don't hold much faith in Sony.

Excuse me?

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Reply #57 posted 06/16/18 5:50am

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Vannormal said:

...post 1996 work then.

Could only mean an album released with all new material... ?

No one else is waiting for, lets say 1996-2003 material right now (right ?)

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all that (usual loud) buzz... - we'll see when I got something real in my hands (yawn)


tbh, i'd rather have the "madrid 2 chicago" right now, instead of, say "dream factory"


eek i know, it might seem shocking to some lol



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Reply #58 posted 06/16/18 6:02am

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Personally I think it will work out best for us fans having the post WB catalogue with a different label to WB.

Even if WB had been interested (maybe they were who knows) in securing the post 96 material, they would only been prepared to release a few things per year and would inevitably have focused on 78-95.

This way we may get multiple releases each year focusing on both halves of Prince's career which to me is a win-win.
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Reply #59 posted 06/16/18 6:07am

TrevorAyer

The good news is we may get a post wb hits package which if done well could create public interest in his later albums ... bad news is most of his later albums sucked ... i would love an UN mastered series with his most recent brickwalls presented without the butchered mastering ... alas we live in an age of deaf consumers so they will probably take the opposite approach and brickwall his whole catalog
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