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Reply #30 posted 06/08/18 7:27am

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Little Red Corvette (the extended synth intro I always wanted)

17 Days (a lot more like the live version)

Mountains (turns into a completely different song)

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Reply #31 posted 06/08/18 9:08am

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JellyJam said:

Doozer said:

I Wish U Heaven pats 1, 2 & 3. So many unexpected twists and turns. A great example of how Prince could make a song so radically different between the album and extended versions.

100%

Yep, parts 2 and 3 have some of his greatest stuff ever as a producer/arranger in my opinion while still being edgy instead of a safe top 40 mix (like Cream which is perfect, but also perfectly safe).

And, the way he ironically changes to the bitter violent persona, and wicked funky beat, while the original chorus of the song still echoes out of key, fits with his always surfacing themes of dualing morality vs sin... just like the parts of the purple rain tour where he talks about God and then turns on a dime theatrically and says, do you want me? to the audience.

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Reply #32 posted 06/08/18 11:15am

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djdaffy1227 said:

Se7en said:


Sorry, but I have to disagree with this.

I'm not saying that I don't like the content of Parts 2&3 -- but to me, they don't say "I Wish U Heaven". What he had on the album version is so light and ethereal, but then the extended part has the same negativity he was distancing himself from on the Black Album.

Should've saved that added stuff for another track.


Thank you Se7en, I thought I was the only one who didn't like the extended version of "I wish u heaven". The album version was beautiful and perfect. All the goofy stuff added took away from the song IMO. Like you said, the added stuff would have been fine on some other song.



I'm glad we can have different viewpoints on this. I find the album version to be very one-note. The 12" completes the trilogy of this song for me.

Pt 1 - the beautiful (yet kinda one-note) album version/single version
Pt 2 - the heavenly dance part
Pt 3 - the Take This Beat part

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Reply #33 posted 06/08/18 11:32am

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Thieves in the temple - the long version is MUCH better.

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Reply #34 posted 06/08/18 11:38am

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I think there's got to be an A-level version of the Lovesexy album in the vaults - the reason I never completely loved that album is that it felt like a lot of compelling fragments that never really got a chance to breathe.

[Edited 6/8/18 11:47am]

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Reply #35 posted 06/08/18 11:42am

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sro100 said:

I don't mean songs that are pretty darn good in their album state, like "Let's Go Crazy" but just add on more goodness in their extended versions.



I mean songs where you think the song proper is good or okay. But the extended takes it and goes into the stratosphere.



For me, that would be "Thieves in the Temple."


The single version is cool; it's okay.



But once the extended part kicks in it goes to another unbelievable planet; and the video only really kicks ass once the extended part begins; and about that video when he paints the wall and starts fucking the wall it's just so fucking Prince!



Y'all?



What Prince songs do you think only really work in their extended state?



Yes! Thieves in the Temple extended takes the song even deeper...that rhythm...:luv:

I also love the extended version of Erotic City...that sexy, sexy song. wink
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Reply #36 posted 06/08/18 12:12pm

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Doozer said:

I Wish U Heaven pats 1, 2 & 3. So many unexpected twists and turns. A great example of how Prince could make a song so radically different between the album and extended versions.

I love the Lovesexy rehearsals of this. music

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Reply #37 posted 06/08/18 12:23pm

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GIRL extended is amazing!

IWUH 1-3 is amazing too.

Hot Wit U (Nasty Girl remix)

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Reply #38 posted 06/08/18 2:10pm

namepeace

"Much, Much Better?"

I can't say many 12"/remixes/extended releases were ever much, much better than the single edit. I guess I'd go with:

Erotic City

IWUH pts 1,2 and 3

heart or $

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Props will be withheld until the showing and proving has commenced. -- Aaron McGruder
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Reply #39 posted 06/08/18 2:11pm

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MendesCity said:

I think there's got to be an A-level version of the Lovesexy album in the vaults - the reason I never completely loved that album is that it felt like a lot of compelling fragments that never really got a chance to breathe.

[Edited 6/8/18 11:47am]


Hmm. Interesting take.

[Edited 6/8/18 14:12pm]

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Reply #40 posted 06/08/18 2:13pm

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I agree with many others that Thieves In The Temple feels absolutely lacking and incomplete in its album form. 12" or nothing on that one. And Mountains comes close to that for me...I love the album version but when those horns kick in on the extended version it just becomes epic. And while not exactly extended versions, the "Universal Love" and "Funky Stuff" remixes of Space are equal to if not better than the album version.

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Reply #41 posted 06/08/18 2:21pm

feeluupp

Irresistable Bitch... Have any of us heard the extended version that Questlove has?

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Reply #42 posted 06/08/18 2:55pm

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renfield said:

I agree with many others that Thieves In The Temple feels absolutely lacking and incomplete in its album form. 12" or nothing on that one. And Mountains comes close to that for me...I love the album version but when those horns kick in on the extended version it just becomes epic. And while not exactly extended versions, the "Universal Love" and "Funky Stuff" remixes of Space are equal to if not better than the album version.

yes How could I forget this.

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Reply #43 posted 06/08/18 3:56pm

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La la la he he he, goes from being a decent bside to my favorite song of the era.

Yes

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Reply #44 posted 06/08/18 4:27pm

ForbiddenFruit

Gett Off

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Reply #45 posted 06/08/18 6:42pm

BgoLala4life

Let's Work

White, Black, Puerto Rican, everybody just a freakin....
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Reply #46 posted 06/08/18 7:15pm

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You just have to listen to the full length versions of the editted tracks from the 1984-1988 period to understand that the guy was breathing music night and day. The public got a glimpse, but will never appreciate his sheer love for the jam and carefree attitude Vs 'singles' and 'formats'.

Although it took till 1993 to boil over, the post 1999 album period clearly led to him feeling constrained.

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Reply #47 posted 06/08/18 7:46pm

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williamb610 said:

HELLO. HELLO. hello. Hello!

The funk of it! The maniac laughter, the funky breakdowns, Prince's little kid/hurt voice. The guitar....the screams.

P at his best!

Hell yeah.

"Climb in my fur."
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Reply #48 posted 06/08/18 7:50pm

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feeluupp said:

Irresistable Bitch... Have any of us heard the extended version that Questlove has?

Do tell.

"Climb in my fur."
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Reply #49 posted 06/08/18 7:51pm

LovePaisley

Alphabet Street for me. While fun, poppy, and quite possibly his best double-entendre, the extended, "This is not music, this is a trip," version is on a whole other level of funkiness. And It sounds like he was having a blast.
And the MUSIC continues...forever...
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Reply #50 posted 06/08/18 10:47pm

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I don't know if it's "much, much better", but I absolutely love the extended version of "Paisley Park". All that extra guitar is just fabulous.

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Reply #51 posted 06/08/18 11:48pm

PeteSilas

said it many times, in the 80's the extended versions were way better than the 3 minute version. Little Red corvette, Let's go crazy etc.., etc.., almost always were superior to the radio friendly version and it's a reason that the alternate, full versions were placed on cd in the 90's, there must have been some demand, that plus the b-sides.

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Reply #52 posted 06/09/18 3:17am

Sydney

I Wish U Heaven

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Reply #53 posted 06/09/18 4:01am

leecaldon

ForbiddenFruit said:

Gett Off

I feel cheated when I listen to one of the truncated versions of this.

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Reply #54 posted 06/09/18 5:41am

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djdaffy1227 said:

Se7en said:


Sorry, but I have to disagree with this.

I'm not saying that I don't like the content of Parts 2&3 -- but to me, they don't say "I Wish U Heaven". What he had on the album version is so light and ethereal, but then the extended part has the same negativity he was distancing himself from on the Black Album.

Should've saved that added stuff for another track.


Thank you Se7en, I thought I was the only one who didn't like the extended version of "I wish u heaven". The album version was beautiful and perfect. All the goofy stuff added took away from the song IMO. Like you said, the added stuff would have been fine on some other song.


I love so many of the extended versions . . . Mountains, She's Always In My Hair, La, La, La, He, He, Hee, etc. Actually, I love all of them with I Wish U Heaven being my only exception.

Maybe it's because the album version is one of my favorites?

Would have been cool if the extended parts were titled something else, but "similar" -- like how the variations of New Power Generation (Loveleft Loveright, Get Off, The Lubricated Lady) are separate but part of the original too.

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Reply #55 posted 06/09/18 7:09am

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Most of them:

Raspberry Beret with that long intro with the cat growl/moan and the coughing because Prince is so sick.

U got the Look with that funky chicken grease intro.

Erotic City with the "fuck some creamy human jive..."

...lastly....

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Let's Go Crazy extended IS superior to the album version. It lifts that song to some next level stuff. The stomped on piano, the mumbling repeat of the intro, the funky hand/finger flicking part, and the cow bell. They all add up to mad genius stuff NO ONE else would have the guts to put in a #1 hit song. This song is the EPITOME of what separates Prince from others, and what is VASTLY missing in music today...taking risks and being adventurous even with the most commercial things....

Yes, Skywalker, let's talk!

Stated very well! Can't add much to what you say.

Thinking on the Kiss extended....gone somewhere else, and Partyman is lifted up to just a frenzy funk in that video mix. Prince was just on it. He having so much fun. That'll get em he was always thinking I think.

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Reply #56 posted 06/09/18 5:20pm

andrewm7

for me the long versions of Mountains, Good Love, Hello, lets go crazy, u make my sun shine...
I give up, there are very few songs I don’t prefer the long version .
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Reply #57 posted 06/11/18 3:58am

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68686 said:

skywalker said:

Most of them:

Raspberry Beret with that long intro with the cat growl/moan and the coughing because Prince is so sick.

U got the Look with that funky chicken grease intro.

Erotic City with the "fuck some creamy human jive..."

...lastly....

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Let's Go Crazy extended IS superior to the album version. It lifts that song to some next level stuff. The stomped on piano, the mumbling repeat of the intro, the funky hand/finger flicking part, and the cow bell. They all add up to mad genius stuff NO ONE else would have the guts to put in a #1 hit song. This song is the EPITOME of what separates Prince from others, and what is VASTLY missing in music today...taking risks and being adventurous even with the most commercial things....

Yes, Skywalker, let's talk!

Stated very well! Can't add much to what you say.

Thinking on the Kiss extended....gone somewhere else, and Partyman is lifted up to just a frenzy funk in that video mix. Prince was just on it. He having so much fun. That'll get em he was always thinking I think.


On some of the PR concerts boots I have, Prince puts the stomped-piano section in Delirious, and it still works!

I think the reason that it works better in Let's Go Crazy, along with a background chanting/moaning, is that is does play to the "crazy" that's mentioned in the song title.

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Reply #58 posted 06/11/18 5:38am

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Se7en said:

Doozer said:

I Wish U Heaven pats 1, 2 & 3. So many unexpected twists and turns. A great example of how Prince could make a song so radically different between the album and extended versions.


Sorry, but I have to disagree with this.

I'm not saying that I don't like the content of Parts 2&3 -- but to me, they don't say "I Wish U Heaven". What he had on the album version is so light and ethereal, but then the extended part has the same negativity he was distancing himself from on the Black Album.

Should've saved that added stuff for another track.

I never cared to much for the 1 2 & 3 either. I Wish U Heaven is perfect in it's simplicity. The 1 2 3 was like a totally different song.

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Reply #59 posted 06/11/18 5:45am

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ufoclub said:

JellyJam said:

100%

Yep, parts 2 and 3 have some of his greatest stuff ever as a producer/arranger in my opinion while still being edgy instead of a safe top 40 mix (like Cream which is perfect, but also perfectly safe).

And, the way he ironically changes to the bitter violent persona, and wicked funky beat, while the original chorus of the song still echoes out of key, fits with his always surfacing themes of dualing morality vs sin... just like the parts of the purple rain tour where he talks about God and then turns on a dime theatrically and says, do you want me? to the audience.

That's a pretty perfect description, thank you thumbs up!

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