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Reply #570 posted 06/15/18 4:48am

BartVanHemelen

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controversy99 said:

And the complaints about the price. I was worried when I read this thread that I’d have to pay $40 or so to get the CD. Nope. It’s a pretty standard $15.98 or something. . Wtf people?

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Which is IMHO a bit overpriced for a 30-odd minute piano rehearsal that was taped on a cassette.

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Reply #571 posted 06/15/18 7:30am

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BartVanHemelen said:

controversy99 said:

And the complaints about the price. I was worried when I read this thread that I’d have to pay $40 or so to get the CD. Nope. It’s a pretty standard $15.98 or something. . Wtf people?

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Which is IMHO a bit overpriced for a 30-odd minute piano rehearsal that was taped on a cassette.


You know it will be $10-11 on sale as a loss leader at the box stores the week it comes out. Compared to $10 for the NC2U 7'' Single, this is a bargain.

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Reply #572 posted 06/15/18 1:23pm

Strive

djThunderfunk said:



BartVanHemelen said:




controversy99 said:


And the complaints about the price. I was worried when I read this thread that I’d have to pay $40 or so to get the CD. Nope. It’s a pretty standard $15.98 or something. . Wtf people?

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Which is IMHO a bit overpriced for a 30-odd minute piano rehearsal that was taped on a cassette.




You know it will be $10-11 on sale as a loss leader at the box stores the week it comes out. Compared to $10 for the NC2U 7'' Single, this is a bargain.



One overpriced release does not make another a bargain.

I got to be honest. The more I think about this release, the angrier I get.
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Reply #573 posted 06/15/18 2:12pm

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Strive said:

djThunderfunk said:


You know it will be $10-11 on sale as a loss leader at the box stores the week it comes out. Compared to $10 for the NC2U 7'' Single, this is a bargain.

One overpriced release does not make another a bargain. I got to be honest. The more I think about this release, the angrier I get.


"compared to"... yep bargain.

Compared to average CD releases, the price is average. The CD will be $10-11 at box stores which is reasonable and average. If the $40 package price is for collectors, if it's too high, go for the CD from a box store.


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Reply #574 posted 06/15/18 2:29pm

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BartVanHemelen said:



controversy99 said:


And the complaints about the price. I was worried when I read this thread that I’d have to pay $40 or so to get the CD. Nope. It’s a pretty standard $15.98 or something. . Wtf people?

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Which is IMHO a bit overpriced for a 30-odd minute piano rehearsal that was taped on a cassette.


Pre-ordered a copy from Amazon for $9.49.
Just sayin'
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Reply #575 posted 06/15/18 8:21pm

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A bit stunned this is the first thing they release from the vault. It's going to disappoint in a major way. It's get press and then when people release what it is...... bored

The first release obviously should have been a set of ten great outtakes in excellent quality or a deluxe reissue of an album

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Reply #576 posted 06/15/18 11:18pm

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so its implied that the final P&M gig will also be released??

That what I hope so and with this new Sony deal lets keep our finger cross. They were also behind the release of Michael Jackson's This is it.

Not sure what to make out of this new 1983 P&M release but I am sure the collectors are thrilled.

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Reply #577 posted 06/16/18 9:16am

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udo said:

luvsexy4all said:

so its implied that the final P&M gig will also be released??

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Implied in what way?

It's not.

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Reply #578 posted 06/16/18 9:31am

udo

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databank said:

udo said:

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Implied in what way?

It's not.

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Ahhhh.

OK then.

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So we got time.

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While watching the Beirut movie I noticed this tune:

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Yes, that Sue Ann Carwell.

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Got more examples from her post-Prince period?

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FWIW, about the P&M 1983 release:

If all they can come up with, many months ahead of the release date, is this; then in what shape is the pile of tapes they carted off out of Paisley park?

What is the state of affairs w.r.t. labelling, catalogging?

I mean, a simple tape bake, copy, digitising and a mastgering job don't take so many times.

They will take as much time as was required for translating the rosetta stone's unknown parts (to westerners at least) (yes go find that timespan!) until they have a good grasp of what hey have and what would be the right way to release.

Meantime we get releases like this one.

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Reply #579 posted 06/16/18 11:06am

djThunderfunk

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udo said:

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Yes, that Sue Ann Carwell.

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Got more examples from her post-Prince period?


I LOVE SueAnn Featuring Jesse Johnson.

https://www.discogs.com/S...se/2904772


Top notch material from both great artists! music

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Reply #580 posted 06/16/18 11:14am

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udo said:

FWIW, about the P&M 1983 release:

If all they can come up with, many months ahead of the release date, is this; then in what shape is the pile of tapes they carted off out of Paisley park?

What is the state of affairs w.r.t. labelling, catalogging?

I mean, a simple tape bake, copy, digitising and a mastgering job don't take so many times.

They will take as much time as was required for translating the rosetta stone's unknown parts (to westerners at least) (yes go find that timespan!) until they have a good grasp of what hey have and what would be the right way to release.

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http://prince.org/msg/7/455156

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Reply #581 posted 06/17/18 4:27pm

controversy99

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BartVanHemelen said:



controversy99 said:


And the complaints about the price. I was worried when I read this thread that I’d have to pay $40 or so to get the CD. Nope. It’s a pretty standard $15.98 or something. . Wtf people?

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Which is IMHO a bit overpriced for a 30-odd minute piano rehearsal that was taped on a cassette.


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Glad you wrote “IMHO”, so you acknowledge that it’s an opinion. That’s fair.
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Anyway, I better ask for a partial refund on Dirty Mind, just barely over 30 minutes and a low tech recording. What a rip off.
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While I’m at it, how about some money back on my early Funkadelic albums? Those things are like 35 minutes on a good day.
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Reply #582 posted 06/17/18 5:59pm

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all the music in the vault and this is the bullshit they come up with?!?! #FOH

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Reply #583 posted 06/17/18 7:57pm

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macaylasdad said:

all the music in the vault and this is the bullshit they come up with?!?! #FOH

lol

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Reply #584 posted 06/17/18 10:39pm

SoulAlive

macaylasdad said:

all the music in the vault and this is the bullshit they come up with?!?! #FOH

biggrin I agree,it's a very underwhelming release.

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Reply #585 posted 06/17/18 10:44pm

Silvertongue7

Just out of curiosity, is anyone still listening to Mary Don’t You Weep? I listened to it a few times on the day it came out, haven’t listened since...
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Reply #586 posted 06/18/18 2:01am

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controversy99 said:

BartVanHemelen said:

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Which is IMHO a bit overpriced for a 30-odd minute piano rehearsal that was taped on a cassette.

. Glad you wrote “IMHO”, so you acknowledge that it’s an opinion. That’s fair. . Anyway, I better ask for a partial refund on Dirty Mind, just barely over 30 minutes and a low tech recording.

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DM is still a semi-professional multi-track recording. It wasn't a 30+ year old cassette tape when it was released. And THERE WASN'T A VAULT FILLED WITH HUNDREDS OF PROFESSIONALLY RECORDED OUTTAKES.

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Reply #587 posted 06/18/18 4:28am

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Dirty Mind is a professional recording. The fact that it was recorded in a home studio doesn't make it "semi-professional". The piano rehearsals, on the other hand, can of course be called amateur recordings as they were probably taped with a consumer-grade, portable cassette recorder next to the piano. So yeah, I find it a shady move too to release these as the first ever vault-sourced material – especially on its own and in deluxe packaging, for a higher price than Purple Rain Deluxe. This is taking the piss.

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BartVanHemelen said:

controversy99 said:

BartVanHemelen said:
. Glad you wrote “IMHO”, so you acknowledge that it’s an opinion. That’s fair. . Anyway, I better ask for a partial refund on Dirty Mind, just barely over 30 minutes and a low tech recording.

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DM is still a semi-professional multi-track recording. It wasn't a 30+ year old cassette tape when it was released. And THERE WASN'T A VAULT FILLED WITH HUNDREDS OF PROFESSIONALLY RECORDED OUTTAKES.

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Reply #588 posted 06/18/18 6:03am

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Kares said:

This is taking the piss.

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Perhaps WB is managing expectations a bit with this release? lol

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Reply #589 posted 06/18/18 9:18am

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BartVanHemelen said:



controversy99 said:


BartVanHemelen said:


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Which is IMHO a bit overpriced for a 30-odd minute piano rehearsal that was taped on a cassette.




. Glad you wrote “IMHO”, so you acknowledge that it’s an opinion. That’s fair. . Anyway, I better ask for a partial refund on Dirty Mind, just barely over 30 minutes and a low tech recording.

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DM is still a semi-professional multi-track recording. It wasn't a 30+ year old cassette tape when it was released. And THERE WASN'T A VAULT FILLED WITH HUNDREDS OF PROFESSIONALLY RECORDED OUTTAKES.



Agreed. Either Troy and the team working with him genuinely lack knowledge and expertise in what to select for release or this is a deliberate move on WB part to devalue the vault or perceptions of its contents. I have no explanation as to their motive in this but it is obvious enough with what is already circulating on bootlegs, without even considering all the other finished unknown recordings, that this is an odd choice for an opening release.
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Reply #590 posted 06/18/18 2:53pm

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OperatingThetan said:

Either Troy and the team working with him genuinely lack knowledge and expertise in what to select for release or this is a deliberate move on WB part to devalue the vault or perceptions of its contents.


My god, can you walk me through any possible motivation for such a move? 'Cause I got nothin' and the very idea of them doing that freaks me right out...

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Reply #591 posted 06/18/18 2:59pm

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would only make sense if they expect the Sony deal to fall through just like the last one and they want to get those rights on the cheap.

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Or this could just be to mess with whoever gets to release the Piano & Microphone shows. I'm guessing that that is most likely. They try to get all of the money for Prince releases, so messing with the one thing that there was some excitement for that was to come might be part of what they want to do.

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Reply #592 posted 06/19/18 7:57am

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Silvertongue7 said:

Just out of curiosity, is anyone still listening to Mary Don’t You Weep? I listened to it a few times on the day it came out, haven’t listened since...

25+ years ago I got Intimate moments and I listened to it once...if that. I listened to Mary... this time like you said maybe 3 times... I am not sure what they are thinking about this. They can not expect it to sell more than 50K copies. (if that)

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Reply #593 posted 06/19/18 8:55am

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OnlyNDaUsa said:



Silvertongue7 said:


Just out of curiosity, is anyone still listening to Mary Don’t You Weep? I listened to it a few times on the day it came out, haven’t listened since...



25+ years ago I got Intimate moments and I listened to it once...if that. I listened to Mary... this time like you said maybe 3 times... I am not sure what they are thinking about this. They can not expect it to sell more than 50K copies. (if that)


I got it a lot more recently than you. I listened a couple of times, a cool little curiosity to have, that’s all.
I was talking to a friend about it the other day. He’s not a fan. He told me that I needed to understand that not everyone is as invested as I am or would have as much stuff as I have. What I couldn’t make him understand is that this is not interesting even for someone who is as invested as I am, never mind anyone with just a passing interest in Prince. I really don’t get this release...
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Reply #594 posted 06/19/18 10:45am

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i keep forgetting about this release lol my excitement level for is it about 14%.

if it wasn't for this thread i'd have forgotten all about it by now neutral

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Reply #595 posted 06/19/18 3:22pm

MIRvmn

IstenSzek said:

i keep forgetting about this release lol my excitement level for is it about 14%.

if it wasn't for this thread i'd have forgotten all about it by now neutral


I'm not that excited about it either even though I think it a nice release. It would be a more smart move to give us something we all want, like unreleased albums cuz they won't make much money from this release, that's for sure.
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Reply #596 posted 06/19/18 3:30pm

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Just out of curiosity, is anyone still listening to Mary Don’t You Weep? I listened to it a few times on the day it came out, haven’t listened since...

I actually forgot that song, I also only listened to it a few times
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Reply #597 posted 06/19/18 3:52pm

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MIRvmn said:

IstenSzek said:

i keep forgetting about this release lol my excitement level for is it about 14%.

if it wasn't for this thread i'd have forgotten all about it by now neutral

I'm not that excited about it either even though I think it a nice release. It would be a more smart move to give us something we all want, like unreleased albums cuz they won't make much money from this release, that's for sure.


i'd be so much more excited if they would have found studio versions
of 'cold coffee and cocaine' and 'why the butterflies' and added them
to this release as bonus tracks.

see that would make me wet my pants, instantly biggrin


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Reply #598 posted 06/19/18 7:35pm

udo

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IstenSzek said:

if they would have found studio versions

of 'cold coffee and cocaine' and 'why the butterflies'

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That is too much effort at this point.

Same reason for this release.

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Reply #599 posted 06/19/18 7:59pm

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remember when it was gonna be 1999 expanded with a bunch of bonus trax .. then they were like .. no ... lets release this instead whofarted

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