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Thread started 05/28/18 8:26pm

purplerabbitho
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Songwriter's hall of fame???What reasons for his exclusion?

Why do you think he has not been included yet when Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis, Michael Jackson and even young folks like Taylor Swift are included??? Is it political?

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Reply #1 posted 05/28/18 8:57pm

rdhull

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Because Lisa and Wendy wrote everything. But seriously, folks gonna have to get over him not being a part of every award system out there at this time.

"Climb in my fur."
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Reply #2 posted 05/28/18 9:05pm

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Please. really, he wrote too many songs for himself and others to not be on that list *even if you take out the songs that might have been co-written to some extent.. Its not like its a list best bass players or something. Don't be a hater.

rdhull said:

Because Lisa and Wendy wrote everything. But seriously, folks gonna have to get over him not being a part of every award system out there at this time.

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Reply #3 posted 05/28/18 9:06pm

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oh god

purplerabbithole said:

Please. really, he wrote too many songs for himself and others to not be on that list *even if you take out the songs that might have been co-written to some extent.. Its not like its a list best bass players or something. Don't be a hater.

rdhull said:

Because Lisa and Wendy wrote everything. But seriously, folks gonna have to get over him not being a part of every award system out there at this time.

"Climb in my fur."
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Reply #4 posted 05/28/18 9:33pm

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Please, tell me why a fan wouldn't want him to be on that list? Even if they had to oblige that certain hits were co-written and do some research. The man who work When Doves Cry, the Beautiful Ones, If you were mine, NOthing COmpares 2 u, Manic Monday, Darling Nikki, I feel for you, Little Red Corvette, 1999, Sign of the times, If I were your girlfriend, Insatitiable, Seven, Theives in the Temple, the question of u and several others songs that do not contain questionable credits should probably be included on a list that has many of his contempories. Jimmy and Terry, Michael Jackson and Madonna being on that list and not prince is like a slap in the face.

rdhull said:

oh god

purplerabbithole said:

Please. really, he wrote too many songs for himself and others to not be on that list *even if you take out the songs that might have been co-written to some extent.. Its not like its a list best bass players or something. Don't be a hater.

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[Edited 5/28/18 21:43pm]

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Reply #5 posted 05/28/18 10:48pm

ForceofNature

Probably the same reason that it took Rush so long to get into the RNR Hall of Fame but Madonna went right in, because they are meaningless arbitrary institutions that have little relevance

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Reply #6 posted 05/28/18 11:04pm

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Reply #7 posted 05/29/18 12:52am

jcurley

purplerabbithole said:

Why do you think he has not been included yet when Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis, Michael Jackson and even young folks like Taylor Swift are included??? Is it political?





When i think of songwriters my first thought is always Michael Jackson!
Mmm
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Reply #8 posted 05/29/18 1:16am

JorisE73

purplerabbithole said:

Why do you think he has not been included yet when Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis, Michael Jackson and even young folks like Taylor Swift are included??? Is it political?


It's not political. It's because he was so much more than just some songwriter.

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Reply #9 posted 05/29/18 4:04am

purplerabbitho
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People don't think of MJ and Madonna as songwriters normally either --because their fans think they were "so much more". I have to think there are politics or technicalities keeping PRince out.

JorisE73 said:

purplerabbithole said:

Why do you think he has not been included yet when Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis, Michael Jackson and even young folks like Taylor Swift are included??? Is it political?


It's not political. It's because he was so much more than just some songwriter.

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Reply #10 posted 05/29/18 12:40pm

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Nobody's ever said he won't get in. He may just need to wait a while. While many fans like me believe he should have been in yesterday, his legacy is secure. A SHOF induction will be even more icing on a pretty large cake.

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Reply #11 posted 05/29/18 4:15pm

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rdhull said:

Because Lisa and Wendy wrote everything. But seriously, folks gonna have to get over him not being a part of every award system out there at this time.


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Reply #12 posted 05/29/18 4:26pm

purplerabbitho
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Why is this one not a big one to discuss? I can see people telling me to get over him being excluded from sexy lists, or best keyboardist lists,or bass player lists or dancer lists or fashion lists etc. But being excluded from songwriter lists when he wrote so many songs for himself and others? Is he not a good songwriter in your estimation? Should we not want him to get the same respect that is givento "songwriters" like Madonna? There was a petition put out months ago over this very issue but three people on his fan page are saying I should get over it. I can't say I understand that. I would think guitar playing and songwriter lists are worth a damn. Were you all telling Susannah on this page to get over the fact that her sister wasn't included on a female guitar player list? Plus, I was asking "WHY" they think he was excluded. No one had an answer or even a theory. I am not losing sleep over it but I thought it would be an interesting thing to talk about.

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Reply #13 posted 05/29/18 8:06pm

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purplerabbithole said:

Why is this one not a big one to discuss? I can see people telling me to get over him being excluded from sexy lists, or best keyboardist lists,or bass player lists or dancer lists or fashion lists etc. But being excluded from songwriter lists when he wrote so many songs for himself and others? Is he not a good songwriter in your estimation? Should we not want him to get the same respect that is givento "songwriters" like Madonna? There was a petition put out months ago over this very issue but three people on his fan page are saying I should get over it. I can't say I understand that. I would think guitar playing and songwriter lists are worth a damn. Were you all telling Susannah on this page to get over the fact that her sister wasn't included on a female guitar player list? Plus, I was asking "WHY" they think he was excluded. No one had an answer or even a theory. I am not losing sleep over it but I thought it would be an interesting thing to talk about.

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You seem mad when people dont agree with your sentiments or follow your lead.

"Climb in my fur."
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Reply #14 posted 05/30/18 12:53am

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1. You care a lot about some honor you can't even write correctly.

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2. This has already been discussed ad nauseam in the past.

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Reply #15 posted 05/30/18 1:03am

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purplerabbithole said:

Please, tell me why a fan wouldn't want him to be on that list? Even if they had to oblige that certain hits were co-written and do some research. The man who work When Doves Cry, the Beautiful Ones, If you were mine, NOthing COmpares 2 u, Manic Monday, Darling Nikki, I feel for you, Little Red Corvette, 1999, Sign of the times, If I were your girlfriend, Insatitiable, Seven, Theives in the Temple, the question of u and several others songs that do not contain questionable credits should probably be included on a list that has many of his contempories. Jimmy and Terry, Michael Jackson and Madonna being on that list and not prince is like a slap in the face.

rdhull said:

oh god

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[Edited 5/28/18 21:43pm]


If You Were mine and If I Were Your Girlfriend? Which boot are they on, I think I missed that leak. razz

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Reply #16 posted 05/30/18 3:30am

purplerabbitho
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When you were mine, If I was your girlfriend.

Dude, I was tired.

TheEnglishGent said:

purplerabbithole said:

Please, tell me why a fan wouldn't want him to be on that list? Even if they had to oblige that certain hits were co-written and do some research. The man who work When Doves Cry, the Beautiful Ones, If you were mine, NOthing COmpares 2 u, Manic Monday, Darling Nikki, I feel for you, Little Red Corvette, 1999, Sign of the times, If I were your girlfriend, Insatitiable, Seven, Theives in the Temple, the question of u and several others songs that do not contain questionable credits should probably be included on a list that has many of his contempories. Jimmy and Terry, Michael Jackson and Madonna being on that list and not prince is like a slap in the face.

[Edited 5/28/18 21:36pm]

[Edited 5/28/18 21:43pm]


If You Were mine and If I Were Your Girlfriend? Which boot are they on, I think I missed that leak. razz

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Reply #17 posted 05/30/18 3:32am

purplerabbitho
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not true. I am just disappointed when people "talk" down to me-- treat me like an irrational fan because I think this particular award should go to the man. I never said he should win every award.

rdhull said:

purplerabbithole said:

Why is this one not a big one to discuss? I can see people telling me to get over him being excluded from sexy lists, or best keyboardist lists,or bass player lists or dancer lists or fashion lists etc. But being excluded from songwriter lists when he wrote so many songs for himself and others? Is he not a good songwriter in your estimation? Should we not want him to get the same respect that is givento "songwriters" like Madonna? There was a petition put out months ago over this very issue but three people on his fan page are saying I should get over it. I can't say I understand that. I would think guitar playing and songwriter lists are worth a damn. Were you all telling Susannah on this page to get over the fact that her sister wasn't included on a female guitar player list? Plus, I was asking "WHY" they think he was excluded. No one had an answer or even a theory. I am not losing sleep over it but I thought it would be an interesting thing to talk about.

[Edited 5/29/18 16:27pm]

You seem mad when people dont agree with your sentiments or follow your lead.

[Edited 5/30/18 3:45am]

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Reply #18 posted 05/30/18 3:43am

purplerabbitho
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1.) Why are you chiming in? Nevermind---Prince isn't around to criticize anymore so you just come after his fans' writing/editing ability on a thread.


2.) You want to talk about something discussed ad nauseam--your favorite topic..Prince's 100 million dollar contract? OR--Your second favorite PRince topic..Prince was an asshole who hadn't been good for 30 years?

BartVanHemelen said:

1. You care a lot about some honor you can't even write correctly.

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2. This has already been discussed ad nauseam in the past.

[Edited 5/30/18 3:46am]

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Reply #19 posted 06/01/18 7:10pm

peggyon

Purplerabbithole:

I have wondered the same. He was at times so witty, intimate, street, cool, insightful, passionate, audacious etc, etc. He was a supremely talented lyricist. Why hasn't he been included?

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