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Thread started 05/11/18 3:20pm

Thizz

Why didn't Prince work with George Clinton when he was signed to Prince?

Any information on what prevented musical collaboration?

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Reply #1 posted 05/11/18 3:40pm

billymeade

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He did, or I'm not understanding the question.
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Reply #2 posted 05/11/18 4:13pm

djThunderfunk

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billymeade said:

He did, or I'm not understanding the question.


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Reply #3 posted 05/11/18 4:30pm

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Prince appears on George's 'Hey Man... Smell my Finger' album way more than he is credited. He's most audible vocally (to my ears) on 'Get Satisfied'.

Obviously there's the George and Prince duet on 'We Can Funk' from Graffiti Bridge (which falls under the contract) and 'Paradigm' which was later.
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Reply #4 posted 05/11/18 9:51pm

PeteSilas

from what i've heard, he gave george his space, probably out of respect, that was one of his heroes so i doubt he wanted to treat him like he did the rest of his proteges. I never heard the album but it got good reviews.

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Reply #5 posted 05/11/18 10:18pm

EnDoRpHn

It's not like he wasn't busy during the time in any case.

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Reply #6 posted 05/12/18 5:40am

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PeteSilas said:

from what i've heard, he gave george his space, probably out of respect, that was one of his heroes so i doubt he wanted to treat him like he did the rest of his proteges. I never heard the album but it got good reviews.



'Hey Man...' is particularly good and worth seeking out. Cinderalla Theory has its moments but 'Hey Man...' is the strongest of the two.
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Reply #7 posted 05/12/18 12:26pm

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billymeade said:

He did, or I'm not understanding the question.

Yeah, don't get it. George did work with Prince...

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Reply #8 posted 05/12/18 4:56pm

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I could swear Prince appears vocally on Let's Get Funky (from TAPOAFOM), "Let's get funky tonight yeah yeah. let's get funnkaaay"

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Reply #9 posted 05/12/18 7:23pm

djThunderfunk

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Dandroppedadime said:

I could swear Prince appears vocally on Let's Get Funky (from TAPOAFOM), "Let's get funky tonight yeah yeah. let's get funnkaaay"


He might. If you look through the booklet you'll see reference to him, though no specific credits.

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Reply #10 posted 05/12/18 11:50pm

ian

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Prince is all over Hey Man Smell My Finger, and gets writing credit on The Big Pump.

Also later, Brother Can You Paradigm.

GC is on record siscussing their collaborations, many times.

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Reply #11 posted 05/13/18 2:16am

MattyJam

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I've never heard Hey Man, Smell My Finger. Is it work checking out?

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Reply #12 posted 05/13/18 2:57am

Marrk

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Did Prince have much or any involvement on 'The Cinderella Theory' album?

Yeah, we'll, we'll try to imagine what silence looks like.
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Reply #13 posted 05/13/18 3:20am

ian

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MattyJam said:

I've never heard Hey Man, Smell My Finger. Is it work checking out?

Yeah man, it has an early 90s hiphoppy sound to it, but there are some great tracks on there. One of the more consistent GC solo releases, although he's anything but solo on it - lots of collaborators. I love it - Martial Law, Paint the Whitehouse Black, Maximumisness, Kickback, Rhythm and Rhyme, The Flag Was Stil There. Prince's track is probably one of the weaker ones on there actually.

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Reply #14 posted 05/13/18 9:58am

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ian said:



MattyJam said:


I've never heard Hey Man, Smell My Finger. Is it work checking out?




Yeah man, it has an early 90s hiphoppy sound to it, but there are some great tracks on there. One of the more consistent GC solo releases, although he's anything but solo on it - lots of collaborators. I love it - Martial Law, Paint the Whitehouse Black, Maximumisness, Kickback, Rhythm and Rhyme, The Flag Was Stil There. Prince's track is probably one of the weaker ones on there actually.



It's great. One of my favourite George Clinton solo albums. Prince is audible (to my ears) on 'Get Satisfied'.
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Reply #15 posted 05/13/18 9:59am

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Marrk said:

Did Prince have much or any involvement on 'The Cinderella Theory' album?



To my knowledge he did not, but as discussed he is all over the follow-up, Hey Man... though mostly uncredited.
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Reply #16 posted 05/13/18 2:37pm

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I wish the Org's mods would close all threads where the OP clearly hasn't even bothered to visit PrinceVault.

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Reply #17 posted 05/13/18 3:06pm

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I wish the Org's mods would close all threads where the OP clearly hasn't even bothered to visit PrinceVault.

I haven't agreed with many of your takes but I certainly respect your thoughts and opinions on Prince,

this take, I fully agree. I know there are a ton of new Prince fans since his death but there are

resources available to help you answer so many questions on Prince and his collaborators. Salute to all

the wonderfully patient and giving people on the ORG tho, I love this place!

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Reply #18 posted 05/14/18 6:04pm

mrwiggles

The "Minneapolis" sound is not stamped all over the GC stuff like it is on say, the Larry G stuff he's on and the Mavis stuff.
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Reply #19 posted 05/15/18 7:30am

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Polo1026 said:

BartVanHemelen said:

I wish the Org's mods would close all threads where the OP clearly hasn't even bothered to visit PrinceVault.

I haven't agreed with many of your takes but I certainly respect your thoughts and opinions on Prince,

this take, I fully agree. I know there are a ton of new Prince fans since his death but there are

resources available to help you answer so many questions on Prince and his collaborators. Salute to all

the wonderfully patient and giving people on the ORG tho, I love this place!

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why would you assume everyone knows about princevault? why not just be helpful and introduce people to the site that may not know about it. besides, this forum would have no purpose if everyone was already expected to know everything. might as well close the forum and just have it redirect to princevault

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Reply #20 posted 05/15/18 8:47am

NorthC

Not only that, Princevault only lists facts: dates, musicians, etcetera. The question of why Prince and George didn't collaborate more closely isn't going to be answered there.
My answer: probably because both men had their own carreer, their own band, their own touring schedule..
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Reply #21 posted 05/17/18 12:51am

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savagedreams said:

besides, this forum would have no purpose if everyone was already expected to know everything. might as well close the forum and just have it redirect to princevault

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This BS again. The same BS that has been doing the rounds for 20+ years. "Why should people be expected to read the PPML FAQ before posting to the mailing list?" Because we don't want to rehash the same crap over and over again. Like Prince not being in Fargo.

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PV isn't the definitive source. But it is an important one, and I expect people to do a little bit of research before posting here. Asking "why didn't Prince work with GC?" is so lazy that OP should be banned. Because OP hasn't even bothered to listen to the two CDs GC released on PPR, or even read the credits. If you can't do that minimum amount of effort, you don't deserve to be posting here.

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Reply #22 posted 05/17/18 12:58am

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OperatingThetan said:

Marrk said:

Did Prince have much or any involvement on 'The Cinderella Theory' album?



To my knowledge he did not, but as discussed he is all over the follow-up, Hey Man... though mostly uncredited.


I loved The Cinderella Theory....The Big Pump always sounded like early 90s club dancey style that was popular at the time.
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Reply #23 posted 05/17/18 3:57pm

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BartVanHemelen said:



savagedreams said:



besides, this forum would have no purpose if everyone was already expected to know everything. might as well close the forum and just have it redirect to princevault



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This BS again. The same BS that has been doing the rounds for 20+ years. "Why should people be expected to read the PPML FAQ before posting to the mailing list?" Because we don't want to rehash the same crap over and over again. Like Prince not being in Fargo.


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PV isn't the definitive source. But it is an important one, and I expect people to do a little bit of research before posting here. Asking "why didn't Prince work with GC?" is so lazy that OP should be banned. Because OP hasn't even bothered to listen to the two CDs GC released on PPR, or even read the credits. If you can't do that minimum amount of effort, you don't deserve to be posting here.



'you don't deserve to be posting here' 😂
We're strangers chatting shit on the internet about Prince FFS. Who gives a shit. Evidently you but apart from you
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Reply #24 posted 05/17/18 6:36pm

masaba

Some people just like asking questions to get info rather then searching for it online. There's nothing wrong with it
If you think prince vault is a good resource then point them in its direction
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Reply #25 posted 05/18/18 2:12am

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masaba said:

Some people just like asking questions to get info rather then searching for it online. There's nothing wrong with it

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Yes there is.

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